Who from our current roster would you like to still be here in 3 years?

[BETCATS]

The title says it all. We are rebuilding and look like a displaced mid level d-league team at the moment. I made a poll, but I would also like to hear reasoning behind choices.

[spectre]

3 years is a mighty long time.

I hope they all break out and become what we want them to be and they all take a discount to stay in Charlotte, but there's also a chance none of them take a big step.

...but that's not what you're after is it?

I'll go with Kemba & Smack, with a good possibility of Hendo & Mullens (the former has to get consistent and show he's not injury prone...the latter that he can be a man in the paint). The rest are probably close to if not at their highest potential or have negatives I doubt they'll overcome.

So I voted those 4.

[Veteran_Picksetter]

I'm gonna catch heck for this, but I'm gonna go with:

Henderson
Biyombo
DJ White (underdog choice)

I like DJW's length, broad shoulders, and his combination of offensive skills (some post work and some midrange shooting abilities). Also, him being here in 3 years implies to me that we were somehow able to unload Tyrus's contract and give DJW the chance that he deserves over TT.

Kemba Walker is noticably absent. I'm biased in favor of length and size, including at the PG position.

[dnbman]

3 years is a mighty long time.

I hope they all break out and become what we want them to be and they all take a discount to stay in Charlotte, but there's also a chance none of them take a big step.

...but that's not what you're after is it?

I'll go with Kemba & Smack, with a good possibility of Hendo & Mullens (the former has to get consistent and show he's not injury prone...the latter that he can be a man in the paint). The rest are probably close to if not at their highest potential or have negatives I doubt they'll overcome.

So I voted those 4.

This would be my response, but mine would probably smell better.

[spectre]

This would be my response, but mine would probably smell better.

Well, mine smell like roses. Least that's what I insist to the kids.

[Mustachio]

I'm gonna catch heck for this, but I'm gonna go with:

Henderson
Biyombo
DJ White (underdog choice)

I like DJW's length, broad shoulders, and his combination of offensive skills (some post work and some midrange shooting abilities). Also, him being here in 3 years implies to me that we were somehow able to unload Tyrus's contract and give DJW the chance that he deserves over TT.

Kemba Walker is noticably absent. I'm biased in favor of length and size, including at the PG position.

I would agree with most of this, but think basing your opinion on measureables instead of how they actually play has been disproven so many times its not funny. Kemba is legit, and if he stayed in the starting lineup would be in the running for rookie of the year at the point guard position.

[dnbman]

Kemba is legit, and if he stayed in the starting lineup would be in the running for rookie of the year at the point guard position.

The notorious ESPN announcers said as much on a Bobcat game recap video earlier in the week.

[Veteran_Picksetter]

I would agree with most of this, but think basing your opinion on measureables instead of how they actually play has been disproven so many times its not funny. Kemba is legit, and if he stayed in the starting lineup would be in the running for rookie of the year at the point guard position.

Measurables absolutely matter as part of the evaluation.

Most nba superstars have average-to-outstanding length for their position. There are only two nba superstars who overcome poor length that I know of, and they both happen to play for the Clippers. But Griffin overcomes it with insane athleticism, while Paul has incredible skill and still some great athleticism. But Paul is an exception.

On top of being a volume, low percentage shooter, Kemba can't get a hand in any other shooter's face. Those are two serious deficiencies to overcome.

He and DJ have been some of the worst-shooting point guards in the league this year. They have to expend a lot of energy to get shots off over guys. That wouldn't be the case if they could simply take standstill jumpers over people a little more.

I like guys who can guard 1 additional position on a defensive switch off. Kemba can't really defend anyone once he is done with fullcourt pressure. The jury is still way out on him. He has just about the shortest standing reach in nba combine history and he turned Steve Nash into an interior shotblocker. When was the last time somebody did that?

[Mustachio]

The notorious ESPN announcers said as much on a Bobcat game recap video earlier in the week.

Thanks for completely nullifying my comment by associating it with ESPN. haha.


and vetpicksetter. I guess we watch different games because Kemba is a pretty decent defender in my opinion. Granted I'm comparing him to DJ. I haven't seen any situations this year where Kemba looked too short or not long enough. I have seen a triple double and a developing player taking over for DJ and more than holding his own.

They are the worst shooting guards in the league, because they have to shoot constantly due to a lack of movement on offense I dont think it has anything to do with working harder. Kemba can get his shot any where any time, i dont care if he is 3'6" if thats the case. The jury is definitely still out, but he guarded Ricky Rubio extremely well Wednesday (outplayed him the whole game I think) and Ricky is 6-4. I agree with you that length is optimal, but I can't just erase what I am watching in front of my face. Kemba is legit.

and about steve nash. every dog has his day. you can't say one block amongst 3 dudes means Kemba will be an NBA failure.

[skratch]

Augustin & Derrick Brown

[Toocool]

Henderson.
Biyombo
Mullens
Walker

I love Auggie, but it looks like he'll be moved or let go =[

[ziggy]

I'm gonna catch heck for this, but I'm gonna go with:

Henderson
Biyombo
DJ White (underdog choice)

I like DJW's length, broad shoulders...

If Amour217 were still around, he would have pounced on that one.

[BETCATS]

I shouldve been more specific in the first post, but I meant using the current rate of progress/potential each player has who do you want in 3 years.

I see Bismark leading. Not surprised. But can we really build around him (or anyone on this roster)?

[Veteran_Picksetter]

Thanks for completely nullifying my comment by associating it with ESPN. haha.


and vetpicksetter. I guess we watch different games because Kemba is a pretty decent defender in my opinion. Granted I'm comparing him to DJ. I haven't seen any situations this year where Kemba looked too short or not long enough. I have seen a triple double and a developing player taking over for DJ and more than holding his own.

They are the worst shooting guards in the league, because they have to shoot constantly due to a lack of movement on offense I dont think it has anything to do with working harder. Kemba can get his shot any where any time, i dont care if he is 3'6" if thats the case. The jury is definitely still out, but he guarded Ricky Rubio extremely well Wednesday (outplayed him the whole game I think) and Ricky is 6-4. I agree with you that length is optimal, but I can't just erase what I am watching in front of my face. Kemba is legit.

and about steve nash. every dog has his day. you can't say one block amongst 3 dudes means Kemba will be an NBA failure.

First off, I hope I am completely wrong about Kemba and he turns out to be an awesome aberration like Chris Paul. I appreciate the debate, and write this with all due respect.

Kemba does what he CAN on defense very well: Anticipating and moving in for quick steals while the ball is still down at his level.

He can get his shot off because he is able to expend a lot of energy juking and dribbling at this stage in his career. He relies a lot on circus shots around the basket. But he won't always be able to do that. Perhaps his low percentage is due in part to the fact that he is often spent once he gets his shot off.

Even as a third-year college star winning a national championship, Kemba was a low percentage shooter. I don't think we should be blaming his percentage on the Bobcats. It is an issue with him as a player.

As far as DJ's low percentage being due to a lack of ball movement: With DJ running point and Boris Diaw playing as a "point-big" next to him, there is really no excuse other than the fact that DJ needs to improve his field goal % and points-per-shot ratio.

I tend to think the bigger point guards have greater longevity, because as they age and slow, they can still see over people to shoot and pass. They can reach around for passes. They can reach over for shots/passes. They can muscle past/into smaller, younger guys. They can defensively bother some wing players on a switch off. Steve Nash and Jason Kidd are examples of bigger point guards still doing it way past their prime.

Moving forward, we are committed to Kemba and need to surround him with good transition athletes, preferably with some defensive length(of course). Biyombo and Henderson are a good start. Anthony Davis would be tremendous. Perhaps Jeremy Lamb as well.

But then we also must mix in some halfcourt skills too if we ever want to do any damage in the playoffs. That's where Harrison Barnes or Jared Sullinger come in. I'm not worried about Barne's dimensions, but I'd like to see Sullinger's reach measurements. He could be a nice guy for post work and igniting fast breaks with his rebounding if he doesn't turn out to be the next Sean May or J.R. Reid. (Well, at least J.R. had a niche in the league. I'm just hoping for more from Sullinger.)

Thank you for reading.

[ziggy]

Not even one single pity-vote for Tyrus.

That says a lot about how unbelievably disappointing he has been this season.

[ohara831]

I am stunned beyond belief. Only 4 votes for DJA? Really? I mean I know many hope he gets moved for a good Draft pick in the 2012 Draft, but absent that happening, he's likely going to walk for nothing. Since we dont know if we will trade him or not, I cannot understand why he has fewer votes than DJ White. Really? DJ is, at this point, our best player. And you dont want him on the 2013 roster? Makes no sense to me at all. I want him on the roster. If we trade him, so be it. But I prefer him as a Bobcat.

[spectre]

I am stunned beyond belief. Only 4 votes for DJA? Really? I mean I know many hope he gets moved for a good Draft pick in the 2012 Draft, but absent that happening, he's likely going to walk for nothing. Since we dont know if we will trade him or not, I cannot understand why he has fewer votes than DJ White. Really? DJ is, at this point, our best player. And you dont want him on the 2013 roster? Makes no sense to me at all. I want him on the roster. If we trade him, so be it. But I prefer him as a Bobcat.

If he'd sign for the MLE sure...love to keep him. Thing is he isn't signing for that.

[Plowright]

I think people are picking who they think will be on the roster, rather than who they want to be on the roster. Hence why DJA has so few votes

[TheBeagle]

Didn't realize I could vote for more than one. Voted for Biz but I'd add to that Kemba and Reggie.

For Biz, the guy's just special. This is a dude who I was very excited about when we drafted him but had absolutely no expectations for this season. I just hoped he could be bought out of his Spanish contract and brought over here so he could get some off and on NBA/DL action just to see what it's like. Less than two months into the season and he's our starting 5, has a pair of double-doubles, a 7 block game, guards Dwight Howard like no other Bobcat ever has, and plays with an energy and enthusiasm that is reminiscent of a young GW. Is he someone you can build around? I doubt it, but he is/will be a strong component of a winning team.

Kemba: If he works on his shot this summer, he's a 20ppg scorer with his eyes closed. He already has mastered the art of getting to the line (and knocks them down!) and his speed is exceptional. He's also shown he can be a solid distributor of the ball, creating shots for his teammates both inside and on the perimeter. His defense has also been better than expected, especially of late. I just see the star potential with him. Along with Biz, he is part of a solid foundation.

Reggie: Our marksman off the bench. Plus can help with ballhandling and is a solid rebounder as well. He is probably replaceable come 3 years, but I think every winning team needs someone with his versatility.

[superb1]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/02/18/3026988/evaluating-each-charlotte-bobcats.html

Charlotte Bobcats 2011-12 midseason report

They regard DJA as a keeper, but this to is from the writers opinion.

[TheBeagle]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/02/18/3026988/evaluating-each-charlotte-bobcats.html

Charlotte Bobcats 2011-12 midseason report

They regard DJA as a keeper, but this to is from the writers opinion. Decent evaluation from Rick. I don't agree with his assessment of Kemba...dude is turning into a great passer and facilitator and feisty defender. To me there's no question he's a 1 and has proven such.

The most disturbing thing however is the fact that, should he finish out next year with us, Gana will have been a Bobcat for.....go take a shot of sour mash real quick, cause this one's gonna hurt....4 and a half years!!!

[SJackson1]

Biyombo is a cert to stay, he will be our core !