Is Tyrus On The Trading Block?

[Proudiddy]

After his performances this year, I have no idea how or why anyone would be interested, but why else would he go from being the starter who Silas believes is in a rough stretch he has to play through, to dropping to almost a 15th man averaging about 3 minutes a game over the most recent games?

[superb1]

I would that he is not, just in the dog house. Unable to really tell, unless someone from FO or with some connections says different. I would say he would be playing to showcase him but the way he has been playing it is best to sit him and hopes someone buys our lemon.

[QC Thundercats]

I think Tyrus has whatever Julius Peppers caught when he had 2 sacks for an entire season - there's no explanation for the drop off except for some mystery disease that they won't disclose. They did say he's like 15 pounds lighter than last year.

I wouldn't think he's necessarily in the doghouse, because he has shown a lot of effort on the defensive side, relentlessly going after blocked shots, grabbing boards. But on the offensive side, he looks so disinterested for some reason, only wanting to take 18 foot jumpers and nothing else. I don't even recall him catching any alley oops this year, which was all he did when we first traded for him.

He's basically untradeable at this point - no team is going to touch that salary and be on the hook for the next 3 years. I still had hopes he could turn it around, but I don't think its going to happen here. He's the walking (or is that sitting) definition of an amnesty candidate, and it will be another sad instance of a Bobcats' asset turning into a puff of smoke.

[superb1]

our new Diop

[Pepperz]

I dont think we are able to trade him for salary per production is not worth it to anybody. I dont even think well use the amnesty clause on him next year, for there is no need too. Right now we are in gathering assets and once we have enough of the right pieces in place, which I feel is in 2 years, we can use use it than and become big players in FA.

[cltblkhscoach]

Screw his attitude, but Andray Blatche and a 2nd from the Wizards sounds pretty damn good right now.

[spectre]

Is Tyrus on the trading block? I think that if they could they'd put him on the street corner with a "free to first sucker" sign.

[dav7z]

Would love for us to cut him . But if not i would do Blatche straight up ,. Blatche has tons more up side , TT and a 2nd for Jax in a second ; Maggs for JAX i would do to . Can't give up value in any trade with thease players.

Augustine , Boris, Eddie , for Felton and Wallace We take on one extra year contract for Wallace ? Felton is stinking up Portland . Would be a great reserve behind Kemba.

[Scottley Crue]

Is Tyrus on the trading block? I think that if they could they'd put him on the street corner with a "free to first sucker" sign.

I bet if someone asked real nice, the 'Cats would throw in one of those HDTV's they're giving away in that promotion, too.

[DY_nasty]

Silas probably wouldn't have started him at all if it weren't for the FO pressure.

That's part of the reason why DJ White didn't accept the deal offered to him.

[Proudiddy]

Silas probably wouldn't have started him at all if it weren't for the FO pressure.

That's part of the reason why DJ White didn't accept the deal offered to him.

Well, combine him getting benched and less than 10 minutes a game now plus the Blatche trade rumor, and that's why I questioned whether he might be on the block. Obviously he has sucked this year, but I was wondering whether we were gonna do the deal for Blatche and we're limiting his minutes to lessen the risk of injury (like the Hornets did with Kaman, until they sent him home). I hope so... Blatche would bring so much more to the team and at this point, I'm fine with DJW as the starting 4 going into next year.

[CatNation1]

at this point id do Tyrus for Blatche too. Blatche might be a stat whore douche but at least SOMETHING motivates him to contribute on the floor. Tyrus sucks and couldnt care less about it. Blatches desire for personal glory>>>>>>Tyrus lack of desire for any glory

[spectre]

Silas probably wouldn't have started him at all if it weren't for the FO pressure.

That's part of the reason why DJ White didn't accept the deal offered to him.

What do you think if White Dy?

Personally I can't stand him. He's weak as hell defensively and he seldom passes it once he gets the ball. Not only that he never continues the move when he receives a pass...almost always he'll square off in a one v one move before he shoots.

[kjk2241]

I know this wasnt directed at me but....

He is Haslem without the defence. Haslem loves that outside shot and can hit it like White but Haslem is the glue defensively which White is not. So my opinion isnt that high of him but would prefer him on the floor instead of TT right now.

As for TT, he is our energy guy who shouldnt be asked to score. He is best used when we have scorers. We dont have any scorers so he looks to shoot which is not good. Put him on a team where they need him to be Ibaka like and that is how he is best used.

[CatNation1]

he sucks ass as an energy guy because he doesnt play with any energy anymore. he doesnt move quickly, doesnt jump like he used to, doesnt hustle. he just blows

[Twan's Kin]

jeez... how things change... I remember when everyone was saying we should match New Jersey's offer for him or it would be the end of the world. how everyone was saying he had a virtually unlimited upside... how everyone was saying he needed to start and get 32 minutes a game. jeez.

[Chef]

jeez... how things change... I remember when everyone was saying we should match New Jersey's offer for him or it would be the end of the world. how everyone was saying he had a virtually unlimited upside... how everyone was saying he needed to start and get 32 minutes a game. jeez.

some of us weren't saying that

[Pepperz]

jeez... how things change... I remember when everyone was saying we should match New Jersey's offer for him or it would be the end of the world. how everyone was saying he had a virtually unlimited upside... how everyone was saying he needed to start and get 32 minutes a game. jeez.

Ill be the first to admit that I was for starting him at one point when he was showing great production. He had his foul troubles but non the less, he was starting to show us that promise that we were hoping for until he got injured. Once that happen, everything about him went to shit. He had great upside but never did I think he had "unlimited" upside.

As far as the matching New Jersey offer, if he played like he was before or better, he would have been worth it. Since he came no where near that, it wasnt worth it.

[Proudiddy]

I didn't really care one way or the other, but with that being said, he is not anywhere near the same player that we re-signed. I could've somewhat justified his salary for the production and effort from the guy we extended at that time... Not this one. He doesn't even look like the same guy and I'm sick of it.

[superb1]

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2012/02/video-will-the-charlotte-bobcats-make-a-deal-before-nba-trade-deadline.html

judging from the video blog by Rick, it is suggesting that something medically maybe wrong with TT. Not enough to warrant laying out or like an injury. If I was to assume, he may have been dealing with it all season and it is affecting his play. No energy, minimal offense and his irritability at times. If so, I may have to give him some credit for playing through it but he is hurting us by playing though. If so, how long has this been going on, who knows and has it been covered up. If true, I best the we can hope for is full recovery or some medical release.

[cltblkhscoach]

Yeah, said something about him having digestive problems which has led to the loss of weight he's had. Maybe it is affecting him more than we know, if anything I've seen him be very supportive of his teammates during games, so maybe it's something he just told the team about and they're letting whatever it is run its course.

[Proudiddy]

Man, this is what sucks about being a "fan"... We get so caught up in the performance on the floor that we forget the human aspect of it all. If the health problems are true then that not only explains his recent poor play, but it also explains some of those cryptic tweets he was making early on after he came back.

I really hope it's not anything serious and I hope they get it figured out quickly. This really seems to connect the dots for me with the tweets he was making and his appearance on the court, it really explains why he doesn't look like the same player we re-upped. If they get him back healthy from whatever it is, I would love to have the old Tyrus back and as a core player going forward.

And not to be speculative, although I'm doing just that, when Peppers had that situation in 2007, it was rumored that he had syphillis and the meds made him sick for the entire season (and resulted in weight loss and weakness). I think TT got married over the summer, so I would think that would be less likely... Another thought that came to mind when hearing "digestive," is obviously it isn't life threatening or they wouldn't be letting him play - so it could be something chronic. Only thing I could think of in that case is Crohns.

Regardless, I certainly hope and pray that they know what's going on and he's already on his way to a full recovery.

[Wolfpackbobcat]

If he has health problems like that, he should retire. He has millions of dollars. Get some IV nutrition.

[spectre]

Silas doesn't talk like it's a health issue. Here's another pretty much going by what Ricky said:

Thomas' production falling off for lowly Bobcats (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765552880/Thomas-production-falling-off-for-lowly-Bobcats.html)

[superb1]

I do believe that some decision about TT will need to be made around draft time. Can he move forward. Since we have so much invested in him and his career with us is almost in limbo, how do we know how to draft. If we go with Davis, Drummond or even Sullinger, does TT stay in our future plans. We can do keep him and if his does progress, trade him away and concentrate on Biz, Hendo, Walker? and our 2012 pick.

[Boomer]

he better be on the block; turrible

[ziggy]

At this point he is just a skinnier Diop. A player that is untradeable because of their horrible contract and lack of production.

I don't see how we will be able to move him.

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

If in 2 years we are in a position to win we can just amnesty him right?

[superb1]

if it is a sickness or illness, he should be able to come back. if it is chronic and he can't return to his former self, he should do us all a favor and just retire. But the way Silas is talking he just needs to work thru it, TT must be not really trying hard enough. Retire before we amnesty you down the road, please. But I do wish you the best.

[ND22]

If in 2 years we are in a position to win we can just amnesty him right?

I'd amnesty him this offseason if he doesn't improve. Diop may be worse, but he isn't owed as much as Thomas is.

[Chef]

if it is a sickness or illness, he should be able to come back. if it is chronic and he can't return to his former self, he should do us all a favor and just retire.

come on now. would you leave that money on the table. not a chance.

[BETCATS]

Tyrus just needs time to rehab from his injury. He lost weight. He lost his conditioning. Just give the man a break on this year. It is not like anything that happens this season matters anyway, so I could care less if he sucks now. He has shown flashes of his old abilities, and I think in due time he will be back at it.

[superb1]

come on now. would you leave that money on the table. not a chance.

no not really if I can drag it out. That's why I wonder where his head is at and the extent of this sickness and whether it is connected to his injury and lack of proper rehab.


Tyrus just needs time to rehab from his injury. He lost weight. He lost his conditioning. Just give the man a break on this year. It is not like anything that happens this season matters anyway, so I could care less if he sucks now. He has shown flashes of his old abilities, and I think in due time he will be back at it. I hope so

[SWedd523]

Give him a break this year? Dude has gotten by on nothing but "potential" for 6 years now and has amounted to nothing more than an 8/5/1 player. Bismack is already better than he is

[spectre]

Bobcats' Thomas has no answers for struggles (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/02/23/3040496/bobcats-thomas-has-no-answers.html)

Good article by Sorenson.

I WANT to give Tyrus a break. I don't see him being a bad team mate (I did question him that time he and Smack were fighting over boards) and from this article it seems he's trying. He's never going to be what his potential says he could be...but if he could just get back to where he was the last couple of years at least he's not be a negative asset.

[Proudiddy]

Just read it and it frustrates me even more. I don't understand what's going on that is making him look like a completely different player on the court. It looks as if there is no desire, no passion, and a loss of athleticism, yet, according to the article, he's the hardest worker on the team.

It's mind boggling.

I'm starting to wonder if he's got a degenerative knee issue following the cartilage removal last year, kind of like how Brandon Roy ended up.

[Wolfpackbobcat]

You can be the hardest worker, but if you suck, im sorry. You don't need to be playing in the NBA.

[dav7z]

A differant envirment is what i guess. Heard romors of Charlie V. and Blatche. Neither good choices. Im sure Cho is looking for a little shorter contract'.

[Pepperz]

Tyrus is just going to become a 6th man kind of player. Is it possible to restructure his contract to where he gets 10-11 mil a year and on the final year he drops to 2 mil just like OKC did for Collison? This would allow us to stay above the cap floor as we pick up young talent on rookie contracts. By the time we are ready for start making those title runs, we will switch the payments from Tyrus to our core players.

[dav7z]

Tyrus is just going to become a 6th man kind of player. Is it possible to restructure his contract to where he gets 10-11 mil a year and on the final year he drops to 2 mil just like OKC did for Collison? This would allow us to stay above the cap floor as we pick up young talent on rookie contracts. By the time we are ready for start making those title runs, we will switch the payments from Tyrus to our core players.
Love the idea but i don't know if it can be done?