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ballwhore
02-24-2012, 10:17 AM
My source is back in Houston for the break he and his fiance' caught the red eye after the game Wednesday night. We spoke at legnth on yesterday about some of the things going on with then team.

DJ-At this point no trade talks no trade scenario's nothing. All signs point to walking and talks of him being packaged with Tyrus or Diaw can be flushed down the toilet. For one Diaw almost retired this off season and doesn;t really have the desire to play anymore or play with passion rather. It's said no teams want either forget the all around player talk we sometime spew on here he is labled as a lazy uninspired fat azz now. Oh! this is about DJ. Anyway, from what I get he is walking for nothing.



Diaw- HE flew all the way to paris and is not set to be back until a couple of hours before practice monday. (Who cares about tired legs or being tired I guess) Silas asked him did he want to be an all star earlier this week. Reply "Not Really." As I said he almost retired during the lockout. He has been taking a lot of flack as he should from Silas as well. Anyway, he'll most likely be in Charlotte until he is done.


Tyrus-He is one crazy son of b#tch. Get this; he was being heckled by a fan at a home game and plotted to get the fan to the back by asking one of the the bobcats personnel to give him passes to the tunnel so he could have an altercation. We bumped into his agent at home depot yesterday and his tone was pretty melancholy about the franchises state basically saying the front office has no idea. He said he didn't see them trading or signing DJ and Tyrus most definitely will be there until he proves some worth. Amnesty not happening so he says. He was a real cool dude on the surface.

Silas-Is not going anywhere this year and most likely be back next year. Jordan is still paying LB and doesn't want to pay another coach a good chunk of money until that is done. Tyrus agent seems to think Silas will leave this season citing personnel reasons so his son can get some real exsposure.

Biyombo-Beast but englishly (if that's a word) challenged which makes things hard as far as running plays and calls.

Kemba-a good player

The overall attitude is Jordan gave the team a bullsh#t hand

spectre
02-24-2012, 10:24 AM
My source is back in Houston for the break he and his fiance' caught the red eye after the game Wednesday night. We spoke at legnth on yesterday about some oof the things going on with then team.

DJ-At this point no trade talks no trade scenario's nothing. All signs point to walking and talks of him being packaged with Tyrus or Diaw can be flushed down the toilet. For one Diaw almost retired this off season and doesn;t really have the desire to play anymore or play with passion rather. It's said no teams want either forget the all around player talk we sometime spew on here he is labled as a lazy uninspired fat azz now. Oh! this is about DJ. Anyway, from what I get he is walking for nothing.



Diaw- HE flew all the way to paris and is not set to be back until a couple of hours before practice monday. (Who cares about tired legs or being tired I guess) Silas asked him did he want to be an all star earlier this week. Reply "Not Really." As I said he almost retired during the lockout. He has been taking a lot of flack as he should from Silas as well. Anyway, he'll most likely be in Charlotte until he is done.


Tyrus-He is one crazy son of b#tch. Get this; he was being heckled by a fan at a home game and plotted to get the fan to the back by asking one of the the bobcats personnel to give him passes to the tunnel so he could have an altercation. We bumped into his agent at home depot yesterday and his tone was pretty melancholy about the franchises state basically saying the front office has no idea. He said he didn't see them trading or signing DJ and Tyrus most definitely will be there until he proves some worth. Amnesty not happening so he says. He was a real cool dude on the surface.

Silas-Is not going anywhere this year and most likely be back next year. Jordan is still paying LB and doesn't want to pay another coach a good chunk of money until that is done. Tyrus agent seems to think Silas will leave this season citing personnel reasons so his son can get some real exsposure.

Biyombo-Beast but englishly (if that's a word) challenged which makes things hard as far as running plays and calls.

Kemba-a good player

The overall attitude is Jordan gave the team a bullsh#t hand

Thanks for the insight BW.


Oh! this is about DJ. Anyway, from what I get he is walking for nothing.:facepalm:

This will bring the red lollipop avatar back.

Chef
02-24-2012, 10:52 AM
the only hope i have is the fact that dj thinks nothing will happen means something will. see: wallace, gerald.

oh and i think i could take tyrus. i would love for him to try that shit with me, i'd brake his narrow ass.

G Wuh Wuh Wuh Wallace
02-24-2012, 10:55 AM
bingo!!!!!!


the only hope i have is the fact that dj thinks nothing will happen means something will. see: wallace, gerald.

oh and i think i could take tyrus. i would love for him to try that shit with me, i'd brake his narrow ass.

Wolfpackbobcat
02-24-2012, 11:00 AM
I swear some of our players are not Professional athletes. They have no sense of pride or how to act professionally. I wish Diaw would retire, and TT get in some altercation so we could fire them and not have to pay them.

CatNation1
02-24-2012, 11:06 AM
next time i go to a game ill try to get tyrus to beat me up. honestly hes so scrawny and pathetic now ill probably have to flop but no worries

Wolfpackbobcat
02-24-2012, 11:06 AM
Oh and Biz knows plenty of languages and probably speaks better English than some of the assholes on our team.

Bobcat4Ever
02-24-2012, 11:10 AM
Tyrus is such a goofball. No one takes his bitch ass seriously.

Dcarnys
02-24-2012, 11:26 AM
Seriously Tyrus?? Thats crazy but to be honest nothing here is surprising. Hopefully we get something for DJ because it sounds he has no interest being in Charlotte anymore.

CatNation1
02-24-2012, 11:27 AM
yeah im not buyin the Biz thing at all his english is great. honestly i usually give bw's posts some regard but this is junk. DJ wouldnt know if we were about to trade him anyway

dav7z
02-24-2012, 11:27 AM
Don't think DJ walks for nothing . Not with Cho . DJ is restricted so odds are he will either be traded or signed . Does DJ not care any more? Don't see that attitude on the floor. Im sure hes not happy but he still seems like he likes the game.
Have you heard any rumors about DJ going to Portland for Mathews. Ive heard this differant ways but those two are the principal.
Borris just as a expiring gives it some value . Though i belive ever word you said about Boris.

Chef
02-24-2012, 11:34 AM
yeah im not buyin the Biz thing at all his english is great. honestly i usually give bw's posts some regard but this is junk. DJ wouldnt know if we were about to trade him anyway

remember he is reporting from his source's POV not the gm's

Mustachio
02-24-2012, 11:41 AM
Biyombo-Beast but englishly (if that's a word) challenged which makes things hard as far as running plays and calls.


oh sweet, sweet delicious irony.


As far as the report goes. Nothing in there really newsy I don't think cept maybe Diaw wanting to retire (not known, but clear evidence) and DJ not getting traded.
But honestly DJ not knowing anything about a trade means approximately zilch in the long run. You don't have to tell a player you are shopping him.

Thanks though. I always enjoy a good "In The Know" even if it is total unsubstantiated rumor.

ziggy
02-24-2012, 11:52 AM
BW as always, we appreciate the inside info.

Any word on Tyrus' health?

superb1
02-24-2012, 12:29 PM
Don't think DJ walks for nothing . Not with Cho . DJ is restricted so odds are he will either be traded or signed . Does DJ not care any more? Don't see that attitude on the floor. Im sure hes not happy but he still seems like he likes the game.
Have you heard any rumors about DJ going to Portland for Mathews. Ive heard this differant ways but those two are the principal.
Borris just as a expiring gives it some value . Though i belive ever word you said about Boris.

I agree that Boris still holds value as an expiring so whether he wants to play would be irrelevant if a team wants his contract and they just park him there.

rumors are rumors, just for our entertainment regardless of the source. DJ doesn't necessarily walk yet. As for as TT, he needs to be concern about getting back in shape than f***king with the fans

Proudiddy
02-24-2012, 01:21 PM
Thank BW. No surprises. I said since the DJ extension thread that he was going to walk for nothing. Our front office is so fucking cheap, and MJ and Higgins probably have Cho tied up, blindfolded and muzzled, so he ain't fixing anything.

ballwhore
02-24-2012, 04:54 PM
I'm just relaying some of what I was told. Hell everything could be complete opposite as far as trades etc. I don't know why he would say Biz has english problems on the court if he doesn't but I guess ya'll know because ya'll can hear him calling picks right? I was just giving info from a players point of view. Anyway, I digress i'm sure some of you have a better feel of what's going on then a f#cking actual player on team. He didn't say much about Tyrus health only that he is the craziest mofo ever.

ballwhore
02-24-2012, 05:01 PM
@superb1 DJ's agent and the bobcats have been in talks back and forth for over a month and no trade scenarios have been mentioned at all. Rod Higgins sent his assistant I can't think of the guys name but he just got promoted a fairly young dude but he has been there for a minutet) to ask DJ if he still wanted to be in Charlotte and get of feel of his thoughts since he scouted DJ @ Texas the answer was Yes. He just wants to be paid fairly high 9 low 7 per. No less than 7 his exact words were put him with Memphis he'll do conley numbers or better and so on.

Mustachio
02-24-2012, 05:12 PM
@superb1 DJ's agent and the bobcats have been in talks back and forth for over a month and no trade scenarios have been mentioned at all. Rod Higgins sent his assistant I can't think of the guys name but he just got promoted a fairly young dude but he has been there for a minutet) to ask DJ if he still wanted to be in Charlotte and get of feel of his thoughts since he scouted DJ @ Texas the answer was Yes. He just wants to be paid fairly high 9 low 7 per. No less than 7 his exact words were put him with Memphis he'll do conley numbers or better and so on.

i wouldnt offer him 7 per.

Proudiddy
02-24-2012, 05:18 PM
So DJ does want to be here then (if the money is right)? I thought he was ready to leave?

superb1
02-24-2012, 05:19 PM
@superb1 DJ's agent and the bobcats have been in talks back and forth for over a month and no trade scenarios have been mentioned at all. Rod Higgins sent his assistant I can't think of the guys name but he just got promoted a fairly young dude but he has been there for a minutet) to ask DJ if he still wanted to be in Charlotte and get of feel of his thoughts since he scouted DJ @ Texas the answer was Yes. He just wants to be paid fairly high 9 low 7 per. No less than 7 his exact words were put him with Memphis he'll do conley numbers or better and so on.

thanks bw, that's sound great. I really feel he deserves that, we need not be cheap and keep playing this round robin with point guards. they have their hopes on Kemba, but honestly he has not really impressed me as much as he should to convince. Like I said, we can run with both, Kemba off the bench in a Jason Terry role. Our OKC version of James Harden in a sense.

ballwhore
02-24-2012, 05:23 PM
By the way the way true the tteam doesn't have to tell a player anything about a trade but as soona s they solicit one to antother team it'll be known. His agency represents a very big chunk of the players I almost want to say 65 to 70% and these agents have relationships with teams. So they don't have to tell him but chances are he'll find out more than likely just like all the other times well before it''s done

Mustachio
02-24-2012, 05:32 PM
thanks bw, that's sound great. I really feel he deserves that, we need not be cheap and keep playing this round robin with point guards. they have their hopes on Kemba, but honestly he has not really impressed me as much as he should to convince. Like I said, we can run with both, Kemba off the bench in a Jason Terry role. Our OKC version of James Harden in a sense.

just curious. If Kemba hasn't impressed you enough to convince you he's the future. what in the world has impressed you with DJ enough to pay him 7-9 per?

Chef
02-24-2012, 05:46 PM
just curious. If Kemba hasn't impressed you enough to convince you he's the future. what in the world has impressed you with DJ enough to pay him 7-9 per?

we are in a tough spot. dj is clearly the better pg between him and kemba. dj or kemba are clearly better than any of the pg's in this years draft. dj is worth 7 mil, just not to us. if we knew what direction the team was going, had our go-to guy then i could see it. in my view, our best move is to trade him.

Mustachio
02-24-2012, 05:55 PM
we are in a tough spot. dj is clearly the better pg between him and kemba. .

I would tend to agree, but you are comparing a 4 year vet to a rookie. And I don't think the gap is that big. In our 4 wins this season, Kemba has had arguably the better game between the two. only against the Knicks did DJ have a higher +/-. Thats not to say DJ sucks at all (or that Kemba is the guaranteed superstar I want him to be), I just don't think he's so good that we have to pay him 7 million dollars for the next few years while we are tanking.

spectre
02-24-2012, 06:04 PM
The thing is like Blockparty (think it was him) mentioned...due to the new CBA the players' cut is going down like 7% over the next 3 years. 7 per which IMO is a fair price for DJ right now would be that much worse in a couple of seasons. The cap will also go down...which should force us to make very prudent decisions on what we spend those funds on..

I'd rather sign him for 3/21 then let him walk for nothing tho. So long as he can keep up good play (and improve the D please) he should still be an asset.

I HATE giving up assets.

superb1
02-24-2012, 06:05 PM
just curious. If Kemba hasn't impressed you enough to convince you he's the future. what in the world has impressed you with DJ enough to pay him 7-9 per?

i never said he was not the future, but if we were to give him the reigns regardless, they should have moved DJ by now. I think there maybe a lot of difference in philosophies in the FO, Cho preaches patience, Barkley says it is killing MJ to be losing, not in his DNA to lose and Rod probably restricted from stupid moves. But how can you not think DJ can't get min 7 mil and no more than 9 mil.


we are in a tough spot. dj is clearly the better pg between him and kemba. dj or kemba are clearly better than any of the pg's in this years draft. dj is worth 7 mil, just not to us. if we knew what direction the team was going, had our go-to guy then i could see it. in my view, our best move is to trade him.
like Chef said DJ is the better of the two right now. If DJ is not in the future, then he should have been move by now. But I feel like he maybe here if we treat him right.

Mustachio
02-24-2012, 06:25 PM
i never said he was not the future, but if we were to give him the reigns regardless, they should have moved DJ by now. I think there maybe a lot of difference in philosophies in the FO, Cho preaches patience, Barkley says it is killing MJ to be losing, not in his DNA to lose and Rod probably restricted from stupid moves. But how can you not think DJ can't get min 7 mil and no more than 9 mil.


like Chef said DJ is the better of the two right now. If DJ is not in the future, then he should have been move by now. But I feel like he maybe here if we treat him right.

I dont think those philosophies are mutually exclusive. Of course MJ hates losing. So does Cho. It is possible to hate losing, but to understand its the fastest way to get better in this NBA system.

again you're comparing 2 players with vast different experience. and you didn't mention it, but i have heard the argument that DJ started in all the 4 wins. So that got me thinking and here are the total numbers for those 4 wins.

Points - DJ = 60 Kemba = 57
Turnovers - DJ = 7 Kemba = 3
Total +/- DJ = +17 Kemba = +32
Assist - DJ = 35 Kemba = 21
Rebounds DJ = 13 Kemba = 16
Steals DJ = 2 Kemba = 6
Blocks DJ = 0 Kemba = 1
Minutes DJ = 139 Kemba =106

those are just numbers, and just numbers from the 4 wins. But i think it shows that Kemba is as effective if not more so, with less minutes and usually with the second tier players. The whole "Kemba isn't a point guard" argument is flawed. If Kemba isn't ... DJ isn't either.

Chef
02-24-2012, 06:41 PM
I dont think those philosophies are mutually exclusive. Of course MJ hates losing. So does Cho. It is possible to hate losing, but to understand its the fastest way to get better in this NBA system.

again you're comparing 2 players with vast different experience. and you didn't mention it, but i have heard the argument that DJ started in all the 4 wins. So that got me thinking and here are the total numbers for those 4 wins.

Points - DJ = 60 Kemba = 57
Turnovers - DJ = 7 Kemba = 3
Total +/- DJ = +17 Kemba = +32
Assist - DJ = 35 Kemba = 21
Rebounds DJ = 13 Kemba = 16
Steals DJ = 2 Kemba = 6
Blocks DJ = 0 Kemba = 1
Minutes DJ = 139 Kemba =106

those are just numbers, and just numbers from the 4 wins. But i think it shows that Kemba is as effective if not more so, with less minutes and usually with the second tier players. The whole "Kemba isn't a point guard" argument is flawed. If Kemba isn't ... DJ isn't either.

the more telling numbers are what kemba did in the games where he was primary point and dj was out. if those tell a story that he is "getting it" as a point guard then I would be surprised. i have watched him all season like all the rest of you and i still am not impressed as far as a point guard goes. he is a scoring point guard who just doesn't have the athleticism of steve franchise, starbury, iverson or westbrook. i see him as a 6th man. that is not to say he still can't be a game changer or a very valuable player to have on the team.

superb1
02-24-2012, 06:44 PM
I dont think those philosophies are mutually exclusive. Of course MJ hates losing. So does Cho. It is possible to hate losing, but to understand its the fastest way to get better in this NBA system.

again you're comparing 2 players with vast different experience. and you didn't mention it, but i have heard the argument that DJ started in all the 4 wins. So that got me thinking and here are the total numbers for those 4 wins.

Thanks for the stats, and i'm not trying to debate with you. I'm fully behind Kemba for the future. But this FO perplexes me, why DJ is still here falls on whether it is Cho's decision or Rod's. As far as Kemba not convincing
Points - DJ = 60 Kemba = 57
Turnovers - DJ = 7 Kemba = 3
Total +/- DJ = +17 Kemba = +32
Assist - DJ = 35 Kemba = 21
Rebounds DJ = 13 Kemba = 16
Steals DJ = 2 Kemba = 6
Blocks DJ = 0 Kemba = 1
Minutes DJ = 139 Kemba =106

those are just numbers, and just numbers from the 4 wins. But i think it shows that Kemba is as effective if not more so, with less minutes and usually with the second tier players. The whole "Kemba isn't a point guard" argument is flawed. If Kemba isn't ... DJ isn't either.

Thanks for the stats, and i'm not trying to debate with you. I'm fully behind Kemba for the future. But this FO perplexes me, why DJ is still here falls on whether it is Cho's decision or Rod's. As far as Kemba not convincing me, I meant as of this point. But I understand he is still learning, as the rest of our cornerstone pieces.

cltblkhscoach
02-24-2012, 11:05 PM
3 years at 21 million are numbers I would agree with definitely. DJ is a proven commodity, we know what he is. We think we know what Kemba is, but hell we thought the same thing with Tyrus and now apparently he's got health issues and is half crazy. For once, like previously stated, let's keep an asset for a fair price. Even if he's resigned, we can still move him if needed.

And I agree with Kemba = James Harden, the thing with Kemba is he's a damn good basketball player. We get all caught up in if a guy fits this spot or that spot, right now we just need ballers and we'll figure the rest out later.

Plowright
02-25-2012, 07:01 AM
I think if we had not tied up a load of money in Tyrus we would have re-signed DJ. But we are rebuilding yes? We need cap space and flexability to do this. If we have Tyrus on 7 mil a year and DJ on 7-9 mil a year that is taking up a lot of our cap space. This is not to mention the cba decreasing over the next 3 years...

dav7z
02-25-2012, 09:32 AM
Thanks for the stats, and i'm not trying to debate with you. I'm fully behind Kemba for the future. But this FO perplexes me, why DJ is still here falls on whether it is Cho's decision or Rod's. As far as Kemba not convincing me, I meant as of this point. But I understand he is still learning, as the rest of our cornerstone pieces.

I think Cho just hasn't found the value he expects out of DJ . And Cho just isn't going to trade just to make a move . The way Cho thinks is if he can't get value now . He saves that money when he lets DJ walk. Then the cap space becomes the value . Leting a player walk isn't just giving a player away for nothing . The cap space is the assat.

I really think the Bobcats have instrest in keeping DJ' or they wouldn't be talking so much with him. I think he has a value number someone like Cho has give him . If DJ exceeds that number we let him walk . If he don't we match the offer. But im sure we still have instrest .

BETCATS
02-25-2012, 10:08 AM
the only hope i have is the fact that dj thinks nothing will happen means something will. see: wallace, gerald.

oh and i think i could take tyrus. i would love for him to try that shit with me, i'd brake his narrow ass.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/197/179/watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Chef
02-25-2012, 01:42 PM
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/197/179/watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJnKm6ftPu0

Kemba2Hendo
02-25-2012, 07:15 PM
We have to get something for DJ, if not a pick then a young player whose contract is under control for a few seasons, we can't just let him walk.

dnbman
02-25-2012, 10:49 PM
He saves that money when he lets DJ walk. Then the cap space becomes the value . Leting a player walk isn't just giving a player away for nothing . The cap space is the assat.

Yes and no. The problem with that line of thought not is that you have to field a team and thus will have to give players contracts. Yeah, we may save a few million by not continuing his contract, but we still have to pay somebody to play point guard for us. The other thing is that pure cap space doesn't help us if we don't have some pieces to make players think we can be successful. The type of guy that just signs a big contract without caring about winning isn't the type of guy we want. We have to have young pieces that can either blossom into talent or be used to acquire talent. We can't continue to draft players and then get nothing for them. That's why things have looked so bleak for us over the last couple of years: we haven't been able to utilize our young talent very well.

We definitely don't want to make a knee-jerk trade just to say we got some for DJ, but it would definitely be a step back if he walked away and we had nothing to show for it. It would be a wasted opportunity that we can't afford as an organization.

dav7z
02-26-2012, 12:29 AM
Yes and no. The problem with that line of thought not is that you have to field a team and thus will have to give players contracts. Yeah, we may save a few million by not continuing his contract, but we still have to pay somebody to play point guard for us. The other thing is that pure cap space doesn't help us if we don't have some pieces to make players think we can be successful. The type of guy that just signs a big contract without caring about winning isn't the type of guy we want. We have to have young pieces that can either blossom into talent or be used to acquire talent. We can't continue to draft players and then get nothing for them. That's why things have looked so bleak for us over the last couple of years: we haven't been able to utilize our young talent very well.

We definitely don't want to make a knee-jerk trade just to say we got some for DJ, but it would definitely be a step back if he walked away and we had nothing to show for it. It would be a wasted opportunity that we can't afford as an organization.
Say Cho puts a number on DJ of three years 21 milion . DJ is offered 3 years 27 milion . At the same time Mayo has a value number of 27 milion by Cho and is still on the market . Should we match DJs offer or go after Mayo ? Cho belives we go after the better value . Cap space is a hudge asset . So if DJ walks Cho might see a better player in the same price range.

dnbman
02-26-2012, 08:22 AM
Say Cho puts a number on DJ of three years 21 milion . DJ is offered 3 years 27 milion . At the same time Mayo has a value number of 27 milion by Cho and is still on the market . Should we match DJs offer or go after Mayo ? Cho belives we go after the better value . Cap space is a hudge asset . So if DJ walks Cho might see a better player in the same price range.

Yeah, if you're replacing talent, that's fine. But just giving up an asset for the sake of cap space doesn't really help us.

bes628
02-26-2012, 09:20 AM
Yeah, if you're replacing talent, that's fine. But just giving up an asset for the sake of cap space doesn't really help us.

Agreed. We have to keep some of the legit talent on this team, on this team.

joerrad
02-26-2012, 11:47 AM
i don't understand why a young player wouldn't come to charlotte and get a very good deal with the jordan brand. i know it is illegal to compensate but that would be like saying we couldn't sign any current jordan brand players in charlotte so something could be done.

Chef
02-26-2012, 11:58 AM
i don't understand why a young player wouldn't come to charlotte and get a very good deal with the jordan brand. i know it is illegal to compensate but that would be like saying we couldn't sign any current jordan brand players in charlotte so something could be done.

for starters zero nationally televised games, over half of the tv market can't get the games and are not aware there is even a team, a city that isn't exactly embracing the newest version of its nba team and a state income tax.

cltblkhscoach
02-26-2012, 05:27 PM
It's going to take someone like Durant who wants to claim Charlotte as his own. Cam Newton has claimed it for the Panthers, who wants it for the Bobcats? If we're gonna be like OKC, we gotta find our Durant. Kemba fills the role of a Westbrook or a Harden, we're not sure which one just yet.

dnbman
02-26-2012, 08:10 PM
It's going to take someone like Durant who wants to claim Charlotte as his own. Cam Newton has claimed it for the Panthers, who wants it for the Bobcats? If we're gonna be like OKC, we gotta find our Durant. Kemba fills the role of a Westbrook or a Harden, we're not sure which one just yet.

I'm not sure that guy is in this draft. From reading many websites, it sounds like this draft is filled with players that can be very good, but not many that are going to be the face of a franchise or MVP type talent. It would be great if we could find that guy, but I think we're at least another year away.

Mustachio
02-27-2012, 12:03 PM
It's going to take someone like Durant who wants to claim Charlotte as his own. Cam Newton has claimed it for the Panthers, who wants it for the Bobcats? If we're gonna be like OKC, we gotta find our Durant. Kemba fills the role of a Westbrook or a Harden, we're not sure which one just yet.


I love this statement. Saying people wont come because Charlotte isn't "a destination city" whatever. If you draft or acquire dumb asses who think shiny lights mean something, then yes of course that will never happen. But maybe you go out and don't do what everyone else is doing. Shocking I know. Maybe you go get a smart talented kid like Durant who doesn't want to follow the same path as Lebron just because ESPN hypes everything he does. Maybe he wants to build his own thing rather than just follow the rings around.

As far as destination city is concerned. Tell you what. Get someone to write two different players the exact same check worth 10 million dollars. Now have 1 player cash that check in Charlotte, and the other cash it in New York or LA. Then have them buy a condo, house or apartment, then a car, then parking for said car. Food to live off of and gas to get around. Then wait until April 15th and let them file taxes. Now tell me how much more a "destination" LA is to Charlotte.

Veteran_Picksetter
02-27-2012, 01:36 PM
I'm not sure that guy is in this draft. From reading many websites, it sounds like this draft is filled with players that can be very good, but not many that are going to be the face of a franchise or MVP type talent. It would be great if we could find that guy, but I think we're at least another year away.

Let's just get that number one(fingers crossed). Anthony Davis really has star quality. Obviously he might be more of an 18 points, 12 rebounds, 3.5 blocks guy. But that's still quite a game changer.

The more I watch him, I think he already has some offensive skills and simply doesn't need to show them with Terrence Jones, Marcus Teague, MKG, and that Lamb kid around.

Veteran_Picksetter
02-27-2012, 01:44 PM
It's going to take someone like Durant who wants to claim Charlotte as his own. Cam Newton has claimed it for the Panthers, who wants it for the Bobcats? If we're gonna be like OKC, we gotta find our Durant. Kemba fills the role of a Westbrook or a Harden, we're not sure which one just yet.

I don't know if Kemba will ever be as good as Harden. He definitely won't be as good as Westbrook.

Instead of hoping for a "Big 3" in talent like OKC, perhaps we are better off trying to develop 5 above average starters who gel correctly.

Let's all chant: Davis Davis Davis Davis.....

Felton for Prez
02-27-2012, 04:36 PM
The added benefit to (hopefully) getting Davis would be that someone on this site can create a Unibrow shirt.

That said, it's only a 25% chance we get the 1st pick. While better odds than the others, I wouldn't exactly call them good odds.

Black
02-27-2012, 05:26 PM
The added benefit to (hopefully) getting Davis would be that someone on this site can create a Unibrow shirt.

That said, it's only a 25% chance we get the 1st pick. While better odds than the others, I would exactly call them good odds.

I've already come to terms with us having the fourth pick. That way, anything higher is a bonus.

dav7z
02-27-2012, 06:33 PM
The odds of geting either the 1st or 2nd pick is about 75% . The odds of us geting a top three pick is about 95% Its only about a 5% chance we pick as far down as 4

cltblkhscoach
02-27-2012, 10:10 PM
Honestly, we've suffered enough. If there is any karma in the world we should get the #1 pick. But I'm with you guys, I'm expecting anything but, lol. Sad but true....

SirBobcat
02-28-2012, 12:20 AM
Honestly, we've suffered enough. If there is any karma in the world we should get the #1 pick. But I'm with you guys, I'm expecting anything but, lol. Sad but true....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGTOU-OOsAs&sns=em

Keetch
02-28-2012, 08:07 AM
The odds of geting either the 1st or 2nd pick is about 75% . The odds of us geting a top three pick is about 95% Its only about a 5% chance we pick as far down as 4

Dav; according to Wikipedia our odds of getting the 4th pick are actually 35.7%. Ridiculous but true.

1st. 25%
2nd 21.5%
3rd 17.8%
4th 35.7%

murphman
02-28-2012, 08:31 AM
Since 1994 the team with the worst record, ie the team with the most lottery balls in the pot, has won the lottery only TWICE. 2003 Cavs and 2004 Orlando. That's it. About the only good thing to take from that is that the law of averages states we are past due for it to happen again.

superb1
02-28-2012, 10:03 AM
I'm ok with fourth, better with 1st but if say the no.14th team (a team from the west, an above .500 team who missed the playoffs due to the conference being strong) gets it, I'll be a little pissed.

Wolfpackbobcat
02-28-2012, 10:39 AM
We better get the first pick with all the hell we are going through.

bozzy
02-28-2012, 12:19 PM
I don't know why he would say Biz has english problems on the court if he doesn't but I guess ya'll know because ya'll can hear him calling picks right?

There's nothing complicated about calling picks. Unless he can't master one or two words that we haven't heard in interviews, I don't see how that is even possible.

Felton for Prez
02-29-2012, 11:54 AM
Dav; according to Wikipedia our odds of getting the 4th pick are actually 35.7%. Ridiculous but true.

1st. 25%
2nd 21.5%
3rd 17.8%
4th 35.7%

The first pick is pretty easy math, the 2nd and 3rd is a function of who wins the 1st pick. If the number 2 team wins the first pick, the probability of us getting the 2nd pick increases a lot (ie, a lot less ping pong balls). If the 12th wins the first pick, our odds wouldn't go up by much.

Mustachio
02-29-2012, 12:33 PM
The first pick is pretty easy math, the 2nd and 3rd is a function of who wins the 1st pick. If the number 2 team wins the first pick, the probability of us getting the 2nd pick increases a lot (ie, a lot less ping pong balls). If the 12th wins the first pick, our odds wouldn't go up by much.

yep exactly. if we go into the lottery with the most ping pong balls. picking 4th is almost a statistical impossibility. But if anyone can do it... we can.