How far can Bismack take his offensive game

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

Bismacks offensive game is still pretty raw as I think everyone on the planet knows. Tim Duncan came into the NBA as a defensive specialist but managed to become a solid post player and gain an arsenal of post moves. Bismack has an equal or even better work ethic and is younger than Duncan was when he came into the NBA. I don't think we should settle with Bismack being a Mutumbo type player but what do you guys think Bismacks ceiling is in terms of offense?

Oh and that hook shot looks pretty sweet

[SJackson1]

he has shown he can post up and he has a good hook shot, i think he could average 15-18 PPG in a few years if he continues to improve. That would make him a special player becasue he would be avering 17 PPG, 11 RPG, 2/3 BPG

[Veteran_Picksetter]

Bismacks offensive game is still pretty raw as I think everyone on the planet knows. Tim Duncan came into the NBA as a defensive specialist but managed to become a solid post player and gain an arsenal of post moves. Bismack has an equal or even better work ethic and is younger than Duncan was when he came into the NBA. I don't think we should settle with Bismack being a Mutumbo type player but what do you guys think Bismacks ceiling is in terms of offense?

Oh and that hook shot looks pretty sweet

I thought Tim Duncan was a little more offensively-polished than that, but I could be wrong.

The problem I see with Bismack is his difficulty catching the ball. We learn to catch at a very young age. By 19 you either have it or you don't. I don't know if he could improve much in that area.

He COULD improve as a post up player in simple, halfcourt isolation situations. But only when he is matched up against smaller bigs. At 6'9", he will have trouble seeing over the outstretched hands of 7-footers.

I don't know if he'll ever be much better than a Ben Wallace on offense, but it doesn't really bother me since he has Wallace-type defensive capabilities.

[SWedd523]

I could see him maxing out around the 12-14 point mark, depending on the type of PG he has and the type of offense that's being run. 17 is extremely optimistic

[dav7z]

I could see him maxing out around the 12-14 point mark, depending on the type of PG he has and the type of offense that's being run. 17 is extremely optimistic

See i think 17 is about right . The kid is just 19 and like Salis has said , hes never been coached. We will see a vast inprovment next season after the staff has a summer to work witk him . I all so think he will log more mins next season helping his ppg. All so our points guards will know weere and how to get him the ball. His offencive game will be tons ahead of B Wallace . I could see reaching a Ewing of a Hackeem . He reminds me of Hackeem when he post up . When he spreads his body he takes up tons of space though the foot work isn't thair . He should pick it up as smart as the kid is.

[JGib23]

Tim Duncan was way more polished offensively as a rookie than Biyombo ( granted Duncan was a 4 year college player). I think Biyombo could avg 12 points a game if he puts in some work, possibly 16 if he adds a decent elbow jumpshot and gaises his ft % to 70%.

[Chef]

I thought Tim Duncan was a little more offensively-polished than that, but I could be wrong.



tim duncan was a polished low post scorer coming out of college. as good or better than sullinger.

[dnbman]

I"m not sure, but I'd be very happy if he gave us just 10 points a game along with stellar boards and blocks.

[skratch]

Depends on what this staff does.... but like everyone else said i wouldnt mind if he can deliever 10ppg with blocks and rebounds

[Toocool]

14 ppg is what I believe he'll average.
10 ppg is what I think he'll average if he doesn't improve that much.
20+ ppg will be what I would hope he would get reaching his ceiling.
Who has averaged 14 ppg in the league in terms of big men? Bogut. Okafor. Hibbert. Horford
To have 14/12/4 would be really nice (and it's hard enough to get a decent big man to put up those kinds of numbers).
But honestly, the optimistic side of me says he can average more than 14 ppg and be a very good player in the post.

[Dcarnys]

I would be ecstatic with 16ppg. I think that sooner or later he learn how to play some decent offense. Were working with a guy with more potential then we know what to do with and hes willing to work!! Hopefully this is the kind of guy Steve Silas takes under his wing (like Curry and Lin).

[Mustachio]

The problem I see with Bismack is his difficulty catching the ball. We learn to catch at a very young age. By 19 you either have it or you don't. I don't know if he could improve much in that area.


We do learn to catch at a very young age. He however is from the Congo, where soccer is number one. You are much more likely to learn how to kick and be told using your hands for sport is bad.

Thats just making excuses for him, but i think it warrants mentioning.


As far as his offensive ceiling goes... I think it's kind of silly for us to put low expectations on him. Why not shoot for the stars. Every time he plays the whole "Hakeem" thing seems more and more realistic.

[SJackson1]

if he could average 16ppg he would be a beast ! becasue he would be averaging over 10 boards and probably over 2 blocks per game aswell

[Chef]

good stuff here

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7624588/nba-rookie-midterm-report-including-kyrie-irving-ricky-rubio-more

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

We do learn to catch at a very young age. He however is from the Congo, where soccer is number one. You are much more likely to learn how to kick and be told using your hands for sport is bad.

Thats just making excuses for him, but i think it warrants mentioning.


As far as his offensive ceiling goes... I think it's kind of silly for us to put low expectations on him. Why not shoot for the stars. Every time he plays the whole "Hakeem" thing seems more and more realistic.

For Hakeem that footballing thing worked well for him, I heard that it's really what led to his amazing footwork and co-ordination, and being conservative I wouldn't say he's gonna be Hakeem but even 20 PPG is great production

[Mustachio]

For Hakeem that footballing thing worked well for him, I heard that it's really what led to his amazing footwork and co-ordination, and being conservative I wouldn't say he's gonna be Hakeem but even 20 PPG is great production


yep. Biyombo has pretty decent footwork, but needs to work on his hand control if he want's to become a serious offensive threat. But you get my point. This is obviously a generalization and there are exceptions to every rule... but in America you are born throwing and catching baseballs, some of us had footballs to throw and catch since we were 1. Shooting basketballs and dribbling around sticks in our driveways. Just a more hands down approach to coordination. Where as a guy who is told that touching the ball is a penalty is obviously going to develop better coordination from the feet up. makes sense to me at least.

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

Yeah I get you, I live in England also one of those footballing (soccer) countries, some of the younger years basketball teams and ours before really struggled with the learning curve of keeping the ball under control, although when they're taught the euro-step they get it with ease. I think though with the amount of exposure to catching a ball and playing NBA ball I wouldn't be suprised to see Biyombo pick it up after a while. He may never have a great touch around the basket but he should be alright I hope and be able to start converting those offensive rebounds he's gonna get

[adam187]

1. hands (you guys already touched on this very well)
2. free throws (so he's not just constantly getting hacked)
3. trusting himself and his own abilities. i think this will come with time. biyombo sometimes seems like he doesn't want to hurt the team on offense and might play a little too conservatively, at least the way i see it. silas yanking him in and out of the lineup doesn't help either. when the beast is unleashed, good things happen.