View Full Version : Biyombo and Anthony Davis playing together next season for us ?
SJackson1
02-28-2012, 07:31 PM
how awsome would this be ?
Veteran_Picksetter
02-29-2012, 09:24 AM
Very awesome. I'm starting to believe more in Davis's offensive abilities. He just doesn't have to show much for Kentucky. It makes sense for him to focus on defense and offensive rebounding with all of that firepower for the Wildcats.
One issue: Initially, will there be enough weight between the two of them? Davis will have some difficulty with stronger bigs on the low block. I've seen individual plays in college where he got pushed around by stronger guys. As a thin rookie, his greater value will likely be as a HELP defender and slippery offensive rebounder.
Contrast Davis with Sullinger. Sullinger has all the bulk you need, along with refined offensive skills. In that sense he "fits" with Biyombo. He's sort of the opposite of Davis. But athletes will be gliding by and over Sullinger on a regular basis. Davis, with his enourmous potential, makes more sense for the long haul.
Mustachio
02-29-2012, 11:15 AM
I'm still not sold on Davis' offense. Sure he had a 28 point game recently... but that could have been luck. Everytime I've seen him try something outside of 2 feet, it hasn't just been missed, but god awfully missed. Thats not saying he can't learn, because you can obviously see his comfort level with the ball in his hands. I hate the idea of having not one but 2 offensively incompetent big men starting. Somebody has to put the ball in the basket. that said with our shooting woes, we could start seeing a ton more put back dunks from those two monsters.
That bit o' negativity out of the way. The idea of Biyombo and Davis starting together defensively is crazy exciting. two very young guys who both already have an other worldly defensive ability... scary. The potential is amazing.
Pepperz
02-29-2012, 03:23 PM
I would really love that pairing. They would be kind of like the twin towers in Ol San Antonia. They may need some time to find that offensive niche but their defense makes up for all that in the mean time.
adam187
02-29-2012, 04:42 PM
swat city. they'd also be a nightmare on the offensive glass and hopefully also develop pretty good pick and roll skills down the road. two good character guys who don't mind doing the dirty work.
dav7z
02-29-2012, 06:21 PM
I would love to have those two with a back court of Kemba and say J Crawford with Hendo playing s/f . Playing two guards who could create thair on shots and a solid S/F . Those two could kill the offencive glass. I not saying get Crawford but add a person who can score . To those three. We would be competive every night
cltblkhscoach
03-01-2012, 08:57 AM
After watching last night's game I am beginning to warm to the idea of Davis. If he was in the lineup instead of fat ass Diaw, he would have given us a lot more defense, which apparently Biyombo can't do by himself, and when he goes out, there's no one else on the roster who scares people away from penetration. And Biyombo's post defense on Monroe was awesome when he was in there. Having two guys with that capability would be pretty nice...
dav7z
03-01-2012, 10:53 AM
Hate to say it but SMACK is the defencive ankor on this team being a rookie . Sad to say but very true.. He could end up being the best Bobcats pick so far . Im starting to see little flashes of offence all so.
stun704
03-01-2012, 02:32 PM
swat city. they'd also be a nightmare on the offensive glass and hopefully also develop pretty good pick and roll skills down the road. two good character guys who don't mind doing the dirty work.
They'd be the Swat Kats
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Pepperz
03-01-2012, 03:10 PM
They'd be the Swat Kats
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I love it.
Mustachio
03-01-2012, 05:20 PM
They'd be the Swat Kats
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dope. 10char
dav7z
03-02-2012, 12:45 PM
Davis at one is a no brainer.
Barnes at two
Drumond at three
Its three studs in this draft and we going to get on of them . Another thing after those three its a drop off but not a big one . I would say its about 30 more players who could become solid rotation players . I thinking we are going to get a star and a nice rotation player at worst.
skratch
03-02-2012, 11:23 PM
I rather have drummond along side bismack then Davis, drummond at the 5, bismack at 4.
Ghost Kat
03-03-2012, 05:17 PM
I'd pick Drummond over Davis. I think this team needs a scoring center more then defensive players
SWedd523
03-03-2012, 05:20 PM
I'd pick Drummond over Davis. I think this team needs a scoring center more then defensive players
Davis scores more than Drummond
dav7z
03-03-2012, 05:36 PM
Davis scores more than Drummond
Very true ?
QC Thundercats
03-03-2012, 05:56 PM
Biz and the UniBrow together would be one of the most incredible shot blocking duos ever. Imagine a young Camby and Ben Wallace patrolling the paint...Biz can body up on the centers with his strength and Davis can come fly over and clean up. Good luck for anyone driving the lane and avoiding four long arms of swattage. Paint scoring will be hard against the cats - we'd probably set records for blocks, and this also means that our perimeter guys can play overly aggressive and get steals, since there will be not one, but 2 elite shot blockers to cover up for them.
And this is not hyperbole either - Davis already broke Shaq's all time SEC freshman blocks record weeks ago, with 2 months left in the season, and Biz is already (at 19 years of age!) averaging 4.9 blocks per 48, second in the NBA.
Drummond has physical talent, but I don't see the heart, desire to get it done. Watching Drummond play, I've always felt disappointed at the end, while when watching Davis, I'm always impressed with what he can do. Biz works harder than anybody the Bobcats have had besides Crash, and Davis plays the same way.
A lot of people on here say they're most excited to watch Biyombo play, and thats just on one side of the floor. Davis has the same elite defensive timing and talent, and I'm salivating at the future prospect of watching these two play volleyball for the next 10 years together.
Ghost Kat
03-03-2012, 08:33 PM
I'm not against Davis, having never seen him play live, i'm against having two 6'10ish 220ish guys banging up against bigger heavier guys all season. I'm also against all forms of Unibrow on man or beast. Anthony Davis looks like a grown up E.T. or a cartoon villain.
GoBobs
03-03-2012, 10:13 PM
The exciting thing about Davis is that he not only has elite skills, but he is good at a lot of things. He is shooting a ridiculous 66% for the season. He shoots 71% from the foul line. Blocks a ton of shots. Gets 1.5 steals per game. Rebounds at a very high rate. His team has only lost one game and his stats would be even better if he didn't sit most of the 2nd half a lot of nights. He also rarely fouls, takes bad shots or turns the ball over.
Davis doesn't make a lot of jumpers but that doesn't mean he couldn't. His free throw percentage makes me feel comfortable with his prospects in terms of developing a baseline shot at least.
Bismack is a very nice player but only really does a couple of things at an elite level right now. His shot blocking is great and his d is great. His body is also already filled out to the level that he can hold position on most guys. He needs to work on his free throw percentage big time though. He also fouls a little bit to much right now. On a good team Bismack would be a backup but Davis could step in and start right away.
They would be great together but remember there is a 75% chance we won't get the pick even if we finish with the worst record. NO through the combination of the two picks they own could have as good a chance as we do in that case. If we get the number one Davis is an easy pick. If not we have plenty of time to decide. In any case this team needs multiple top picks to rebuild. If we don't get Davis this year there will be another guy later.
SWedd523
03-03-2012, 11:09 PM
I'm not against Davis, having never seen him play live, i'm against having two 6'10ish 220ish guys banging up against bigger heavier guys all season. I'm also against all forms of Unibrow on man or beast. Anthony Davis looks like a grown up E.T. or a cartoon villain.
Bismack measured 245 pounds before the draft.
Dwight measured 240 pounds before the draft.
Ghost Kat
03-03-2012, 11:33 PM
If true my mistake but the great all-knowing sports Oz aka ESPN has him listed at 6'9 & 229.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6427/bismack-biyombo
Davis has the same frame as Tyrus and his unibrow has the same frame as the golden gate bridge.
Veteran_Picksetter
03-03-2012, 11:40 PM
If true my mistake but the great all-knowing sports Oz aka ESPN has him listed at 6'9 & 229.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6427/bismack-biyombo
Davis has the same frame as Tyrus and his unibrow has the same frame as the golden gate bridge.
Davis appears to have much broader shoulders than Tyrus--which bodes well for him to add bulk. Even if they have the same frame, Davis should measure out longer and he's a far superior shotblocker to even Tyrus. There really is no comparison between the two in terms of basketball ability.
SWedd523
03-04-2012, 02:11 AM
If true my mistake but the great all-knowing sports Oz aka ESPN has him listed at 6'9 & 229.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6427/bismack-biyombo
Davis has the same frame as Tyrus and his unibrow has the same frame as the golden gate bridge.
They also have Dwight Howard listed at 6'11 when he measured 6'9 predraft.
Kevin Love listed at 6'10 when he measured 6'7.75 predraft
Tyreke Evans listed at 6'6 when he measured 6'4
Thad Young listed at 6'8 when he measured 6'5.75
Spencer Hawes listed at 7'1 when he measured 6'10.5
and JJ Barea listed at 6'0 when we all know he's 4'11
In short (lol), ESPN is wrong
Pepperz
03-04-2012, 03:27 AM
They also have Dwight Howard listed at 6'11 when he measured 6'9 predraft.
Kevin Love listed at 6'10 when he measured 6'7.75 predraft
Tyreke Evans listed at 6'6 when he measured 6'4
Thad Young listed at 6'8 when he measured 6'5.75
Spencer Hawes listed at 7'1 when he measured 6'10.5
and JJ Barea listed at 6'0 when we all know he's 4'11
In short (lol), ESPN is wrong
Not saying these are lies but where did you get your info? Could they have grown since then? Were they measured in shoes or not in shoes?
SWedd523
03-04-2012, 03:33 AM
Measurements are taken at the NBA sanctioned pre-draft combine. Similar to what they do at the NFL combine but on a much less popular platform. DX has most of the recent players' measurements
I'm sure they could have grown since their official measurements, but there's no way to tell for sure.
QC Thundercats
03-04-2012, 04:32 AM
I'm not against Davis, having never seen him play live, i'm against having two 6'10ish 220ish guys banging up against bigger heavier guys all season. I'm also against all forms of Unibrow on man or beast. Anthony Davis looks like a grown up E.T. or a cartoon villain.
Regardless of these guys' measurements, Biz has shown he can already bang with Superman Dwight Howard himself (and will only get stronger), he probably has the longest arms in the league, and has incredible timing and athleticism. Not worried.
The Brow probably has even longer arms than the Biz, also has impeccable timing and great athleticism, and if rookie twigs like Tyson Chandler, Kevin Garnett, and Joakim Noah can fill out, then so can a hard worker like Davis. Plus, he already sprouted 8 inches in a year, who's to say he doesn't have a couple more inches left.
And yes, his unibrow and jagged teeth are scary, but defense is supposed to be scary. I'm sure the Bulls don't mind Noah's Medusa-like mug, Pau Gasol looks like an ostrich, and Bosh still looks like a raptor. Let opponents be scared of Davis' singular brow and criss crossed tusks, I couldn't care less how a guy looks if he helps us win. Unless they keep showing closeups on my 60 inch HDtv.
Pepperz
03-04-2012, 12:21 PM
Shoes matter alot too cuz they could add an inch to inch and a half. There will have to be consistency in both measurements of height. Combined with growing a half inch. These numbers dont seem that far off.
Ghost Kat
03-04-2012, 12:25 PM
I don't know why they measure players in their bare feet. No one plays like that but I guess you have to be accurate when giving away millions of dollars. I guess my only problem with getting the Unibrow is that still leaves us going into another year without anytype of low post threat. Bizzy B is working on his post up running sky hook. But with Davis jumping up from guard size overnite, I haven't seen or read much of anything about a post up game. We all know this team struggles to score. Easiest way is throw it in the post. On the defensive side, I'm all for the" four arms and a unibrow" defending the rim.
SWedd523
03-04-2012, 02:06 PM
They measure barefoot because there's no way to lie. Different shoes have different platform levels so there is no way to have an accurate height measurement that way.
When you tell somebody how tall you are, you say what the doctor measures you as. And the doctor always measures you barefoot.
Veteran_Picksetter
03-04-2012, 10:57 PM
They measure barefoot because there's no way to lie. Different shoes have different platform levels so there is no way to have an accurate height measurement that way.
When you tell somebody how tall you are, you say what the doctor measures you as. And the doctor always measures you barefoot.
As a general rule I look at the barefoot measurement and add 1 to 1.5 inches to account for normal size shoes. 1 inch if the player has zero length. Maybe 1.5 inches if he has good reach/wingspan.
Kevin Love wore freakin' elevator shores to the combine to bump him up to 6'9.5", which some people would round up to 6'10" in their minds. It was good strategy on his part, but kind of a joke. The guy is 6'9" in normal shoes with little length. Bulk, strength, and skill get him all of those boards, of course.
Jennings
03-06-2012, 09:33 PM
Can you imagine the damage that these two and Kemba would do next year in the summer league?? I know it's only the summer league but dam. Just a thought.
Davis has a better offensive game than he's advertising right now. Kentucky doesn't need him to score from the outside, but he's shown in pre-college camps that he has outside shooting ability. His defensive presence alongside Biyombo would be ridiculous, and on top of that he seems to have a similar motor to Smack.
When I watch Barnes, I see Marvin Williams if he had been a starter at Carolina. When I watch Drummond, I see a lack of effort at times. There is time before the draft, but right now my pick is Davis.
raleigh
03-07-2012, 06:16 PM
We need to keep in mind that the Bobcats are more likely NOT to get Davis than they are to get him.
SWedd523
03-07-2012, 11:04 PM
We need to keep in mind that the Bobcats are more likely NOT to get Davis than they are to get him.
Also more likely to get him than any other team.
Depends how you look at it.
Veteran_Picksetter
03-08-2012, 12:12 AM
Davis has a better offensive game than he's advertising right now. Kentucky doesn't need him to score from the outside, but he's shown in pre-college camps that he has outside shooting ability. His defensive presence alongside Biyombo would be ridiculous, and on top of that he seems to have a similar motor to Smack.
When I watch Barnes, I see Marvin Williams if he had been a starter at Carolina. When I watch Drummond, I see a lack of effort at times. There is time before the draft, but right now my pick is Davis.
Love the first paragraph. Disagree slightly with the comment on Barnes. Marvin Williams was more of an inside/outside guy coming out of college while Barnes is strictly a Wing. Maybe they are of the same nba quality though. That wouldn't be TOO bad if we get Barnes somewhere in picks 3-5. I have to remind myself that they don't automatically have 4-5 all stars at the top of every nba draft.
Veteran_Picksetter
03-11-2012, 09:17 AM
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/03/10/3088677/davis-is-more-than-ultimate-shot.html#storylink=omni_popular
"And Saturday, for the third straight game, he did something college big men almost never do: He swished a 3-pointer with confidence and touch off a pick-and-pop play that is far more NBA than college-like."
So now he's knocking down three's. I saw one of these and he looked perfectly comfortable doing it.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/03/10/3088677/davis-is-more-than-ultimate-shot.html#storylink=omni_popular
"And Saturday, for the third straight game, he did something college big men almost never do: He swished a 3-pointer with confidence and touch off a pick-and-pop play that is far more NBA than college-like."
So now he's knocking down three's. I saw one of these and he looked perfectly comfortable doing it.
i would be fairly depressed if we fail to get the #1 pick. and i usually remain emotionally neutral with sports. to me it just isn't worth letting sports effect my real life.
dnbman
03-11-2012, 09:50 AM
i would be fairly depressed if we fail to get the #1 pick. and i usually remain emotionally neutral with sports. to me it just isn't worth letting sports effect my real life.
I feel you! The Bobcats need to add enjoyment to my life! That being said, I feel o.k. about top 4, but would feel FAN-F'ing-TASTIC about #1.
adam187
03-11-2012, 12:09 PM
god i really need to stop reading the observer comments section.
One of the observer comments compared Davis to Durant....:facepalm:
dnbman
03-11-2012, 01:57 PM
god i really need to stop reading the observer comments section.
I do it once a year. It sucks you in some times.
I do it once a year. It sucks you in some times.
Just don't do it very often...it truly kills brain cells at a much faster rate. That is what happened to most of the folks who post there...brain damage.
dnbman
03-11-2012, 05:21 PM
Just don't do it very often...it truly kills brain cells at a much faster rate. That is what happened to most of the folks who post there...brain damage.
I'm just so thankful [sniff] that Ziggy found us [sniff, sniff] and delivered us from our bondage.
Ghost Kat
03-11-2012, 06:48 PM
I'm just so thankful [sniff] that Ziggy found us [sniff, sniff] and delivered us from our bondage.
This is so true it should be in the Bible...all hail Ziggy Moses
TheBeagle
03-11-2012, 08:52 PM
One of the observer comments compared Davis to Durant....:facepalm: LOL! Holy shit. Can someone please put that rag out of its misery. I mean, for such a major metropolitan city to have such a consistently shitty newspaper...it never ceases to amaze. The commenters just add icing for their idiocy and incompetence.
MadBOBCATfanUK
03-12-2012, 07:01 AM
LOL! Holy shit. Can someone please put that rag out of its misery. I mean, for such a major metropolitan city to have such a consistently shitty newspaper...it never ceases to amaze. The commenters just add icing for their idiocy and incompetence.
according to OKC Rick Bonnell only travels occasionally with the Bobcats which says something, all the Bobcas stories are usually on a 1hour time delay to where we could get them from other news sources and the comments section seems to be a hotbed of discontent aimed towards the bobcats.
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