View Full Version : Thoughts on Stephen Silas
adam187
03-07-2012, 10:26 AM
I missed the game and the front page post kind of got me thinking - how did you think Stephen Silas did last night? What kind of credit would you give him for the win?
The reason I was asking is because I was starting to figure he might not be a part of the future of the organization whenever his father departed. We had all heard the good praise for him when he first showed up and I know I would have been very happy with him taking over for his dad, but then this year, with the losses piling up (and questions of how much of the X and O stuff Paul actually does) it wouldn't be very far-fetched to think that an entirely new staff would take over eventually.
One game does not make a coach, but the win last night restored some hope in my mind that Stephen Silas might be a very good head coach for us in the future and I was just wondering if other people saw some promising signs there - good lineups, smart timeouts, defensive adjustments, timely motivation, stuff like that?
Mustachio
03-07-2012, 10:38 AM
I missed the game and the front page post kind of got me thinking - how did you think Stephen Silas did last night? What kind of credit would you give him for the win?
The reason I was asking is because I was starting to figure he might not be a part of the future of the organization whenever his father departed. We had all heard the good praise for him when he first showed up and I know I would have been very happy with him taking over for his dad, but then this year, with the losses piling up (and questions of how much of the X and O stuff Paul actually does) it wouldn't be very far-fetched to think that an entirely new staff would take over eventually.
One game does not make a coach, but the win last night restored some hope in my mind that Stephen Silas might be a very good head coach for us in the future and I was just wondering if other people saw some promising signs there - good lineups, smart timeouts, defensive adjustments, timely motivation, stuff like that?
Stephen Silas was awesome last night. Up off the bench firing his guys up. Excellent rotations, good timeouts like you said. Loved his performance and think his enthusiasm helped get us that victory.
That said, its not a slight on Paul Silas. Paul Silas is our grim reaper. He is here to usher us into the death that is tanking. And he's daaaamn good too. The major difference in last night from any of the other 30 terrible performances was basically effort.
But I think the Silas's know basketball. And I think Stephen may be the best type of candidate for a young rebuilding team, starting next year. He's young, knows his X's and O's, relates well to the players, and from all accounts has their utmost respect. And he would be continuing the Silas in Charlotte tradition. What else can we ask for?
spectre
03-07-2012, 10:46 AM
We were down 20 points early in the 2nd quarter when Silas got kicked. After that we actually came to life and eventually took the lead. Pretty sure Stephen was diagramming the plays before and after, so IMO you have to look at the effort of the players for the sudden turnaround.
Kind of interesting that this happened considering Silas' forte has always been about motivation. Why couldn't they get these guys "up" like that in all those previous 30 pt losses?
I'm pretty down on them both. I wouldn't be opposed to giving him a tryout going into next season (cuz we'll still stink) but I wouldn't proclaim him anything beyond that.
Zoolander
03-07-2012, 10:47 AM
Yea his rotations were really good. He had the perfect lineups on the floor at the right times. Like keeping Kemba in.
I don't know if it was Paul's move or Stephen's move..but I think having mullens/najera in with Biz helped keep Anderson off the three point line. IMO that was huge because Anderson provides such matchup problems.
MadBOBCATfanUK
03-07-2012, 11:37 AM
I missed the game and the front page post kind of got me thinking - how did you think Stephen Silas did last night? What kind of credit would you give him for the win?
The reason I was asking is because I was starting to figure he might not be a part of the future of the organization whenever his father departed. We had all heard the good praise for him when he first showed up and I know I would have been very happy with him taking over for his dad, but then this year, with the losses piling up (and questions of how much of the X and O stuff Paul actually does) it wouldn't be very far-fetched to think that an entirely new staff would take over eventually.
One game does not make a coach, but the win last night restored some hope in my mind that Stephen Silas might be a very good head coach for us in the future and I was just wondering if other people saw some promising signs there - good lineups, smart timeouts, defensive adjustments, timely motivation, stuff like that?
he's a faw better play caller than his father ever was or will be. All i've heard about him is good especially from some quotes about how cut up the GSW team was after he left. I think one of the conditions about him coming to Charlotte was that he'd get "looked after" when his Dad left. Most people on this forum have been bashing Paul's lineups and rotations but Stephen had great lineups and rotations, really excited about having him here as part of Charlottes future and I sure as hell hope Nate Mcmillan don't get the job.
spectre
03-07-2012, 11:53 AM
Most people on this forum have been bashing Paul's lineups and rotations but Stephen had great lineups and rotations.
Haven't they been one and the same? During the timeouts I'm pretty sure Stephen has always drawn up the plays.
neither are my cup of tea. i would rather get a real coach like if the blazer's get rid of mcmillian.
bozzy
03-07-2012, 12:55 PM
It's not like Stephen was drawing up magically plays during timeouts that the Bobcats haven't seen before. Unless it is a end of a game situation, there's only a few plays any NBA team runs. The clipboard is pretty useless since the players know what to do. You can't really judge his impact on a little more than a half of a game. Other than lineups, I don't think a NBA coach has that much impact during the game like many want to believe. What they do in practice and managing the players is where they earn their money.
skratch
03-07-2012, 02:58 PM
This isnt the first time silas has been ejected last time he was ejected we lost still, i think it has little coaching effect its more of the energy the team is willing to give and confidence, the team was obviously feeling it last night, atleast thats how i saw it, henderson was finally making shots and maggette was finally getting aggressive and making shots, thats basically all you need to win. And i rather not keep being cheap and give current staff promotions/chances at the coaching positions, rather the FO go out and get a proven one
cltblkhscoach
03-07-2012, 03:43 PM
Pretty split opinion. Stephen has earned the right to have a shot and why not here? Like people said, a lot of teams run versions of the pick and roll offense, but in coaching sometimes its more in the presentation than the substance. A young team like ours, Stephen is a natural fit. Paul is better off with a team of veterans who he can motivate in a different way. When Orlando pushed back, Stephen was seen calming the guys down and talking to the point guard during free throws. Paul likes to stay seated most of the game. Stephen was up an active the majority of the game after Paul got kicked out. Thats what a young team benefits more from-you see how they got into it, a spark ignites a flame, and last night thats what happened.
Worth noting that just because Stephen draws up the plays while his dad is coaching, doesn't mean it's the same as when he's in control himself. I'm sure there's plays his dad won't let him run, and the rotations that he had in the Orlando game were different than what Paul usually has.
That said, I doubt it was the difference in the game, and Paul is not the problem. Stephen might be the long-term solution, but that's for next year and beyond.
dav7z
03-08-2012, 08:14 AM
Hes his pops son . Thats about it . He knows xand o s better but paul forgot his alphabet. That happens when you get our age . MJ has got to hire know quility next season/.
Tommy Dee: as i said last week sources tell me Nate McMillan is done out in Portland. Can see him being the next choice after Phil Twitter
adam187
03-08-2012, 03:06 PM
Tommy Dee: as i said last week sources tell me Nate McMillan is done out in Portland. Can see him being the next choice after Phil Twitter
that's for the knicks yeah? maybe mj will lure phil out of retirement to coach our all-stars here :hysterical:
my dream is that the thunder choke horribly in the playoffs and that the organization overreacts and fire brooks, who we somehow snatch up. :g: i know, it's extremely likely. i can't see any way that doesn't happen 100%
Mustachio
03-08-2012, 04:11 PM
I have yet to hear a good reason Stephen Silas shouldn't get a shot at the job.
I don't understand wanting to get a coach that some other team has cast off because they couldnt win with what they had. Definition of insanity... doing the same thing and expecting different results.
ammofan
03-08-2012, 04:27 PM
I love Stephen. Great guy who's loved by every player he's ever been around, and seems to be a great x's and o's guy like many have said. I've seen him in videos from practice working out with players one on one, pulling guys off to the side and giving good instruction, etc. Jeremy Lin said he sat next to Stephen on the bench in GSW for every game to pick his brain. If Lin's play this year has anything to do with Stephen last year we have a potentially really good coach here!
TheBeagle
03-11-2012, 08:41 PM
I have yet to hear a good reason Stephen Silas shouldn't get a shot at the job.
I don't understand wanting to get a coach that some other team has cast off because they couldnt win with what they had. Definition of insanity... doing the same thing and expecting different results. Like some others, I have no problem with giving him the opportunity. I'm lukewarm about him and don't expect he will be a longterm solution, but given the state of the franchise/team, I see no reason to not let him have a go at it. Plus, like his pops, he'll be on the cheap.
I don't understand wanting to get a coach that some other team has cast off because they couldnt win with what they had. Definition of insanity... doing the same thing and expecting different results.
you mean picking up a player's coach who is really good with young players who was stupidly fired after the number 1 overall pick and a top 10 sg were forced out after injury? yeah that would be stupid.
Mustachio
03-12-2012, 02:02 AM
you mean picking up a player's coach who is really good with young players who was stupidly fired after the number 1 overall pick and a top 10 sg were forced out after injury? yeah that would be stupid.
He's been in Portland for 6 years, where him and Stephen Silas have the exact same amount of second round playoff appearances. Zero.
No thanks. Rather take a shot with someone new than a guy who has proven he can't get it done.
Toocool
03-12-2012, 08:45 AM
He's been in Portland for 6 years, where him and Stephen Silas have the exact same amount of second round playoff appearances. Zero.
No thanks. Rather take a shot with someone new than a guy who has proven he can't get it done.
McMillan has an even slower system than LB does. We can barely score as it is in a half court setting :facepalm:
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