Bobcats Trade Deadline Rumor Thread

[Proudiddy]

Tom Moore ‏ @tmoorepburbs
Told #Sixers checked with Bobcats about Reggie Williams, but that won't happen now that they're apparently adding Sam Young from Grizzlies.

[adam187]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Several teams inquiring on Charlotte point guard D.J. Augustine, league sources say. Bobcats are listening.

woo hoo

[Proudiddy]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA
Several teams inquiring on Charlotte point guard D.J. Augustine, league sources say. Bobcats are listening.

[Proudiddy]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Several teams inquiring on Charlotte point guard D.J. Augustine, league sources say. Bobcats are listening.

woo hoo

Oops, beat me to it adam, lol.

Being that I don't think we were going to re-sign him anyway, I'm hoping we get a good package back for him. Read that Hickson may be available. Maybe a first round pick from somewhere? OJ Mayo? Idk, would be nice to hear from Ballwhore about what's going on there.

[adam187]

too slow bro! haha. i need to go do some other shit for 3 hours and just come back but i'm such a sucker for all these rumors. i can't help it.

and yeah, really hoping we pull moves for dj and for diaw. i'd be thrilled if we somehow got rid of tyrus, diop, and even maggette.

[Proudiddy]

Same here on all accounts man. I tell myself I won't sit in front of the cpu at the deadline every year, but it always happens.

And hope Cho pulls some magic with DJ and Diaw. Definitely feel we can get a good return on both. And I would love to dump Maggs, Diop, or Carroll. Apparently TT is untradeable.

[Proudiddy]

Rick Bonnell ‏ @rick_bonnell
3 hours and counting to trade deadline. From what I hear, #Bobcats gauging what they can get for D.J., after he turned down extension..

[Proudiddy]

Rick Bonnell ‏ @rick_bonnell
Combination of no extension (from weeks ago) and similarity to Kemba Walker has team at least listening on Augustin.

[JefDav84]

Rick Bonnell

Don't get your hopes up about #Bobcats making a move. I'm told nothing's close, at lesat for now.

[Wolfpackbobcat]

Bring Hickson home! Haha. We have to do something. Even for a 2nd round. Cant let DJ and Boris go for free.

[Chef]

Rick Bonnell

Don't get your hopes up about #Bobcats making a move. I'm told nothing's close, at lesat for now.

consider source then read as:

bobcats definitely working on a deal right now will definitely go down soon.

[murphman]

Yep, next 2 hours should be very interesting.

[ziggy]

Whatever Rick says, then expect the opposite to happen.

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

not bobcats related but what do you guys think of Crash going to New Jersey?

[Mustachio]

consider source then read as:

bobcats definitely working on a deal right now will definitely go down soon.


exactly. 10char

[BETCATS]

not bobcats related but what do you guys think of Crash going to New Jersey?
I think it may indicate Morrow is on his way out of NJ

[Proudiddy]

Yeah, Bill Ingram tweeting Crash to NJ is likely. Crawford not involved. Maybe DJ deal still an option there?

[DUnit24]

Im guessing the only way we dont trade DJ is b/c a team was wanting us to give us a player back with a bigger salary. Just wouldnt make any sense for us not to trade DJ, especially reading that hes getting a lot of interest.

I expect Boris to stay put now that Howard is staying in Orlando.

Whether we make a move or not, I still think Cho is going to turn us into a dang good team in a few years.

[Proudiddy]

Wow, I guess scratch the Diaw to NJ deal. NJ just gave up an expiring in Okur, Shawne Williams, and A 1ST ROUND PICK for Crash... Wow. Just wow.

[Mustachio]

Wow, I guess scratch the Diaw to NJ deal. NJ just gave up an expiring in Okur, Shawne Williams, and A 1ST ROUND PICK for Crash... Wow. Just wow.


if thats true, thats the worst trade I've ever heard of.

[Proudiddy]

Yeah, but it also reaffirms my belief that we could've gotten more than what we did for Crash last year. Well, at least Cho is on our side now.

BTW, Hoopshype is saying OJ Mayo may be on the move, no teams mentioned.

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

Rick Bounell is going back and fort with me on twitter right now. I think someone should remind him as well the Bobcats you can have as much cup room as you want a very good player will not sign with a team where losing is accepted.

[BETCATS]

What I want the most: OJ Mayo for DJ + the Livingston exception. Doooooo it Cho!

[tondi]

I read somewhere that Crash was considering opting out after this year by not taking his player option next season. Presumably to get one more long term deal inked before he really starts to decline. I wonder how that would impact NJ's plans for him, if at all.

[SWedd523]

Yeah, but it also reaffirms my belief that we could've gotten more than what we did for Crash last year. Well, at least Cho is on our side now.

BTW, Hoopshype is saying OJ Mayo may be on the move, no teams mentioned.

We got TWO firsts out of our Crash deal

[akaseinfeld]

Supposedly the pick NJ sent the Blazers is their own 1st round pick, and it is only top 3 protected.

[BETCATS]

Supposedly the pick NJ sent the Blazers is their own 1st round pick, and it is only top 3 protected.
hahahahahahahahahaha LOL. Billy King is a genius.

[tondi]

Supposedly the pick NJ sent the Blazers is their own 1st round pick, and it is only top 3 protected.

That makes the trade even more bizarre, especially if Wallace opts out and leaves them hanging after this season. Unless, there is more to come, of course.

[Proudiddy]

Brian Windhorst ‏ @WindhorstESPN
About to go up on http://ESPN.com: Lakers have agreed to a trade for Cavs point guard Ramon Sessions for a future draft pick.

[akaseinfeld]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA
The Lakers had been discussing a possible D.J Augustine trade with Charlotte before cutting the deal for Sessions, league sources tell Y!

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA
Cleveland will get the Lakers 2012 first-round pick in the Ramon Sessions trade, league source tells Y! Brian Windhorst 1st reported deal.

[bes628]

Brian Windhorst ‏ @WindhorstESPN
About to go up on http://ESPN.com: Lakers have agreed to a trade for Cavs point guard Ramon Sessions for a future draft pick.

Well DJ is definitely not headed to the lakers then.

[Chef]

Yeah, but it also reaffirms my belief that we could've gotten more than what we did for Crash last year. Well, at least Cho is on our side now.

BTW, Hoopshype is saying OJ Mayo may be on the move, no teams mentioned.

seriously?

we trade crash with 1 year left and a player option for an expiring and 2 #1's.

a year later he is playing the same, announced he will probably opt out and goes for one #1, an expiring and salary filler.

we sold about as high as we could and this deal proves it.

also, haven't read the trade is official yet. highly doubt the posted rumor that it is nj's first top 3 protected. makes no sense but then again it is billy king....

[adam187]

sucks that we couldn't get the DJ to LA done. oh well.

wonder if the crash trade makes our blazers pick for next year (it is for 2013 right?) more valuable?

[Chef]

sucks that we couldn't get the DJ to LA done. oh well.

wonder if the crash trade makes our blazers pick for next year (it is for 2013 right?) more valuable?

cavs traded sessions, eyenga and the right to swap miami's first next year with lakers for luke walton and lakers first.

cavs take on money, may get a worse pick next year and give up what lakers wanted. glad we didn't do the deal. lakers asking wayyyy too much.

[rsxnova]

sucks that we couldn't get the DJ to LA done. oh well.

wonder if the crash trade makes our blazers pick for next year (it is for 2013 right?) more valuable?

Add in the Ray Felton mutiny in PDX and we get a decent pick. I wonder what the protection is on that pick.

[dav7z]

Looks like everthing has fell through . Do you guys know of any more possable moves?

[rsxnova]

Looks like everthing has fell through . Do you guys know of any more possable moves?

Dont worry, the Crash/Nazzy trades were right at the deadline last year.

[adam187]

Looks like everthing has fell through . Do you guys know of any more possable moves?

don't give up hope yet. still an hour left. plenty of time for something wild.

besides: no moves > getting screwed over just to make a move.

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

Add in the Ray Felton mutiny in PDX and we get a decent pick. I wonder what the protection is on that pick.
Top 12 protected till 2016 draft.

[skratch]

i lost hope in us makin a move

[Plowright]

"We can lose many thing, but hope is never one of them"-Me on 15th March 2012

[rsxnova]

Someone needs to step up and claim their prize(Boris Diaw).

[JR4P]

still 50 min left...I trust Cho's decision making even if a deal does not go down.

Also, if NJ wants to keep Deron Williams in NJ idk if G-Force is going to do it.

[Proudiddy]

well, starting to look like Dj walks for nothing and Boris gets his buyout

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

If we don't end up making any trade, then Cho's should be fired. I mean seriously his job is to make this better not worst. Not making any trade will result in more than likely we will end up the season 6-60.

[Chef]

If we don't make any trade then Cho's should be fired. I mean seriously his job is to make this better not worst. Not making any trade will result in more then likely we will end up the season 6-60

wow. um no comment.

[DUnit24]

Its too quiet...something is about to happen.

I really dont know if anything is or not, but just seems when its quiet like this, something is going to happen.

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

Cho Fired? hahahah good one...but we gotta get SOMETHING for DJ....he doesnt wanna be back here it seems since he declined the extension...looks like he's gonna do what felton did...and diaw will get the buyout....still got trust in CHO to make a deal though

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

Cho Fired? hahahah good one...but we gotta get SOMETHING for DJ....he doesnt wanna be back here it seems since he declined the extension...looks like he's gonna do what felton did...and diaw will get the buyout....still got trust in CHO to make a deal though You realize that we have players on the roster such as Diaw Diop etc who don't care about winning. As a GM your job is to do everything you can to make the team better not worst.

[rsxnova]

Camby to the Rockets

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

Stephen Jackson just got traded again

[Plowright]

We don't want to take on any more salary, all the trades so far have us taking on more salary

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

but you act like people want players like diop, diaw........rome wasnt built in one day this is a proccess....be patient

[Chef]

You realize that we have players on the roster such as Diaw Diop etc who don't care about winning. As a GM your job is to do everything you can to make the team better not worst.

so we should make trades that make us better this year to drastically reduce the chance that we get a top 3 pick and take on more salary. are you sure you aren't rod higgins or bernie bickerstaff in disguise?

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

what is portland doing????....and now could get rid of crawford too....start of rebuilding?

[Pepperz]

If we don't end up making any trade, then Cho's should be fired. I mean seriously his job is to make this better not worst. Not making any trade will result in more than likely we will end up the season 6-60.

Really? Do you know how Cho works? We dont plan on turning things around this year. We are going to suck. We all know that but also know that we are going to get a high draft pick. We also know that with Cho on our side he wont just make a trade to make a trade. We also know that he wont jeopardize his plans just so he can make somebody like you happy. If Cho doesnt make a trade, Im pretty sure it was for good reason. He's not going to settle for anything. So calm down with the firing comment killer.

[Plowright]

maybe Portland are... what is the protection on the pick they owe us again? Is it lottery protected next year?

[ohara831]

Screwing us out of the 2013 1st they owe us. Think it is Lottery protected.

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

We don't want to take on any more salary, all the trades so far have us taking on more salary The thing is we won't be able to get a very good player if we can't win games or play with effort.

[rsxnova]

Top 12 protected till 2016 draft.

10 characters

[Plowright]

I really like the Camby trade for Portland tho. Thabeat, Flynn and prob a high 2nd rounder (Minni's 2nd rounder)

Also, via Bonnell: Unless something very last-minute pops up, #Bobcats won't be making a trade. But i know that means nothing really

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

Really? Do you know how Cho works? We dont plan on turning things around this year. We are going to suck. We all know that but also know that we are going to get a high draft pick. We also know that with Cho on our side he wont just make a trade to make a trade. We also know that he wont jeopardize his plans just so he can make somebody like you happy. If Cho doesnt make a trade, Im pretty sure it was for good reason. He's not going to settle for anything. So calm down with the firing comment killer. Here is the thing it's one thing to lose because you are young team. However, it's an anther thing to lose because you have players on the team who don't play with effort. You can make a trade and still get a top 3 pick in the draft.

[ammofan]

Come onnnnnnnnnn

[The Prodigy]

The only possible explanation for what Portland is doing is that they see that we are about to become an NBA powerhouse. They are doing everything they can to prevent us from getting their first rounder next year to bolster our soon-to-be big 3.

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

so we should make trades that make us better this year to drastically reduce the chance that we get a top 3 pick and take on more salary. are you sure you aren't rod higgins or bernie bickerstaff in disguise? We are about to lose Diaw and DJ and for nothing we can still trade both of them and still have a good chance of getting a top 3 pick

[Chef]

as long as the keep LMA we have a shot at that pick. wallace, felton, crawford and camby weren't winning them many games this year. they still have matthew's, batum, LMA and now nj's pick (if the rumor is true). our goal would be to help in any way we can to make sure nj is good enough to make up the games on the bucks and make the playoffs this year.

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

Man screw portland....the 2013 pick is lottery protected? wowwwww

[rsxnova]

We are about to lose Diaw and DJ and for nothing we can still trade both of them and still have a good chance of getting a top 3 pick

Because im sure we are not trying to do that.

[Chef]

We are about to lose Diaw and DJ and for nothing we can still trade both of them and still have a good chance of getting a top 3 pick

sessions was just traded for luke walton and a first. dj isn't as valuable as sessions. it wasn't the right deal.

[dnbman]

sessions was just traded for luke walton and a first. dj isn't as valuable as sessions. it wasn't the right deal.

That first probably meant taking Walton's salary and the first rounder isn't that high. I don't care too much about losing out on that.

[tondi]

The problem is that, like many on this board, the folks around the league realize DJA isn't anything special. They certainly don't appear to be interested in giving up even a mid/late 1st rounder for him and I really can't blame them. If your team gave up the 16th pick in next years draft for DJA would you be doing back flips??? I highly doubt it.

Now Cho has 20 minutes to prove me wrong. Hopefully he will find a sucker, I mean taker.

[skratch]

i wonder will thabeet ever live up to his potential

[Twan's Kin]

The problem is that, like many on this board, the folks around the league realize DJA isn't anything special. They certainly don't appear to be interested in giving up even a mid/late 1st rounder for him and I really can't blame them. If your team gave up the 16th pick in next years draft for DJA would you be doing back flips??? I highly doubt it.



Does this mean that we'll be able to re-sign DJ for $6 million per year?

[krazyrumpshaker]

trying to stay positive and realize that even if we dont get a trade, we still will be in a better position next year than we have been in awhile.

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

i wonder will thabeet ever live up to his potential I doubt it

[The Prodigy]

i wonder will thabeet ever live up to his potential
I hope so. I wish a team would actually give him a chance to play big minutes for once.

[Pepperz]

Here is the thing it's one thing to lose because you are young team. However, it's an anther thing to lose because you have players on the team who don't play with effort. You can make a trade and still get a top 3 pick in the draft.

Who says those guys are apart of our future? If we can get draft picks for Diaw without taking on salary Im pretty sure cho would do it. Hes not a dumb guy. He knows what he is doing. Diop is one of the most toxic assets in the NBA. You just cant ship him off just like that. You seem like the person that needs to make a trade just to make one. If we dont make a trade, we have have cap flexibility going into the off season. If we do, great, I know Cho would make a wonderful trade. I look at the positive side either way. Quick fixes are the worst ways to go.

[rsxnova]

Sac is/was interested in DJ.

[murphman]

(http://twitter.com/News10Sean)Sean Cunningham (http://twitter.com/News10Sean): Although unconfirmed by Sac, heard the Kings had inquired about Bobcats PG DJ Augustin. Most intriguing Kings related rumor I've heard (http://twitter.com/News10Sean)


Still interest in DJ but no movement.

[Plowright]

I hope so. I wish a team would actually give him a chance to play big minutes for once.

It's hard for a coach to play you big minutes when you have 4 fouls within 10 minutes...


Also Ken Berger ‏ @KBergCBS Close

Bobcats have no deals currently in place for Boris Diaw or D.J. Augustin, who've both been discussed with several teams, source says.

Nobody on this forum can judge if we have made the right decisions or not. We simply do not know all the information or what deals were offered. We have been the most trade happy team for years, i know we as fans all want a trade, something to talk about and a new player to evaluate but maybe, just maybe this time sitting tight was the correct thing to do. 16mins left...

[rsxnova]

Oh what i would give to buy low on Tyreke Evans.

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

according to ken berger the bobcats have no deal in place for dj augustin or boris diaw

[JR4P]

**smokescreen**

[The Prodigy]

It's hard for a coach to play you big minutes when you have 4 fouls within 10 minutes...
Not sure where you are getting those stats from...

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

Still interest in DJ but no movement.

coincides with people saying Tyreke isn't getting an extension

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

according to ken berger the bobcats have no deal in place for dj augustin or boris diaw That is very bad news

[Twan's Kin]

Would you send DJA to SAC for forward Tyler Honeycutt?

[Dcarnys]

Still think the no move is a smokescreen. I still think the bobcats will make a move somewhere.

[bes628]

The fact that Boris Diaw is still on this team as of now, makes this a complete fail. F*ck this man.

[tondi]

Does this mean that we'll be able to re-sign DJ for $6 million per year?


Just because somebody might overpay him doesn't mean we should as well. Honestly, I wouldn't pay 6mil a year for him at this point, even if nobody else was offering more. I think one undersized, nonshooting PG who can't guard anybody is plenty for our current roster. DJA had his chance this season and he has done nothing to warrant overpaying in what would be a desperation move.

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

steve kyler is saying hawks and bobcats also have no deals on the table....geez what is going on man looks like dj is leaving us for nothing

[Proudiddy]

I'm so serious, if we didn't move DJ and let him walk and Boris stays on this team or is bought out, I give up on this FO. Cho didn't make a difference.

[ammofan]

Steve Kyler says we have a deal!

EDIT: damn it no we don't....I read the tweet wrong. Damn. Damn. Damn.

[Plowright]

I think we call it a day boys. It's not often we have a quiet trade deadline day! Lets look at the silver lining, we keep getting to watch our horrible excuse of a team :D

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

steve kyler says we have a deal!
what deal i need a deal?

[tondi]

I think we call it a day boys. It's not often we have a quiet trade deadline day! Lets look at the silver lining, we keep getting to watch our horrible excuse of a team :D

The tank has nothing but open road in front of it.

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

Fisher to Houston for Jordan Hill and a 1st shoot me now.

[Plowright]

Damm... Derek Fisher to Houston for Hill & 1st rounder. Well played LA! I would have done that deal with DJ, send him back to Texas as well

My bad, i read the deal wrong its LA who will send the pick

[Jerp]

oh well, also Derek Fisher to Rockets for Jordan Hill and 1st round pick

[skratch]

only thing to look forward to now is the draft, cant we still resign dj and trade him during the draft?

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

How did LA get a first for Fisher and we didnt get anything for dj?

[Proudiddy]

The Lakers just traded DEREK FUCKING 50 YEAR OLD FISHER for Jordan Hill and a first-rounder and you're telling me we couldn't do anything?

[Kemba2Hendo]

I really hoped to snag an extra pick, oh well maybe Cho can work some more magic on draft day.

[tondi]

How did LA get a first for Fisher and we didnt get anything for dj?

Because DJ sucks.

[Dcarnys]

Could DJ be involved with a trade to LAL after they traded Fisher???

[Mustachio]

I'm so serious, if we didn't move DJ and let him walk and Boris stays on this team or is bought out, I give up on this FO. Cho didn't make a difference.


oh come on. You do realize it takes two to tango right? Its not like Higgins or Cho can make someone take a terrible player and give us a draft pick.

Kaman didn't get moved for a draft pick and hes better than both DJ and Diaw put together.


A lot of people said at the start of the season that the new CBA would take a bit out of the trade deadline fun, and it looks like they were correct.

[Proudiddy]

only thing to look forward to now is the draft, cant we still resign dj and trade him during the draft?


No, especially if he's not interested, Bonnell and IIRC, ballwhore said DJ rejected our offer because we were lowballing him (according to bw). So, he will walk for nothing. Typical Bobcats fashion.

[adam187]

relax guys, the picks going from LA (dallas pick) to houston.

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Check that: The Lakers will send the Rockets its 2012 first-round pick (via Dallas) as part of the deal.

[rsxnova]

I think Hou gets the first from Dallas.

[Plowright]

The pick is from LA to Houston, it was reported badly was read wrong by all of us

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

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Jamal Crawford involved in deadline deal... might not go through... I wonder if it for DJ

[Chef]

The Lakers just traded DEREK FUCKING 50 YEAR OLD FISHER for Jordan Hill and a first-rounder and you're telling me we couldn't do anything?

the first went to houston ie they paid houston a mid to late first for jordan hill and taking fisher.

[SWedd523]

http://www.officialpsds.com/images/thumbs/BABY-psd55046.png

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

yeah i wonder if the jamal crawford trade is for DJ....doubt it

[Proudiddy]

One of the writers saying Crawford is involved in a deal that might not go through. Don't hold your breath though, I'm guessing it's some other bullsh*t ass team I don't care about as usual.

[tondi]

oh come on. You do realize it takes two to tango right? Its not like Higgins or Cho can make someone take a terrible player and give us a draft pick.

Kaman didn't get moved for a draft pick and hes better than both DJ and Diaw put together.


A lot of people said at the start of the season that the new CBA would take a bit out of the trade deadline fun, and it looks like they were correct.

You can't force other teams to take your sucky rejects and give you 1st round picks. It's not like Diaw has been anything other than a whiny piece of crap all year and DJA hasn't impressed at all this season. I certainly wouldn't give up a 1st rounder or anything of value for either of them so why would we automatically expect somebody else to do so?

[Plowright]

tbh... dont really want Crawford here

[Kemba2Hendo]

the first went to houston ie they paid houston a mid to late first for jordan hill and taking fisher.

I knew that originally had to be reported backwards.

[Mustachio]

Steve Kyler ‏ @stevekylerNBA (https://twitter.com/#%21/stevekylerNBA)


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Jamal Crawford involved in deadline deal... might not go through... I wonder if it for DJ

I hope not. Rather just lose Dj than take on Crawfords contract for no good reason.

[Plowright]

I wish we had bought the Hawks 2nd round pick!

[Proudiddy]

Crawford can and most likely will opt out of next year, especially if he comes to us. Worth getting a pick in the process if it was us. But it isn't.

[murphman]

Crawford is on record that he will likely opt out of the final year of his contract.

[skratch]

tbh... dont really want Crawford here


he doesnt want to be here either, he RT'ed a fan that basically expressed his thoughts about coming here a few days ago

[JR4P]

crawford deal only works if the 'cats get a pick

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

Unless it's for a bad contract I don't want Crawford here.

[The Prodigy]

As much as I dont want Crawford here, it would be absolutely hilarious if DJ got traded to Portland and started stealing Feltons minutes like he did here.

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

We are not getting Crawford

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Portland holds onto Raymond Felton and Jamal Crawford. They shopped both players, but couldn't get back expiring deals or first-round picks.

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

i still think we sign and trade dj this offseason OR trade him on draft night for more picks...seems like something cho would try

[Plowright]

A PGs value will go up around draft time as there are so few points in the draft. So maybe a sign and trade would work best

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

A PGs value will go up around draft time as there are so few points in the draft. So maybe a sign and trade would work best
I heard sign and trade options are extremely limited under new CBA

[ohara831]

Disappointed. But I know Cho tried. Only thing that would make me upset is if Cho had a deal for us and MJ vetoed it. But no reason to think that happened.

[DUnit24]

Oh well. My guess is we couldnt get a 1st rounder back and wouldnt take a player with a high salary.

Disappointing but atleast we know come the draft, we will be getting a great player.

[rsxnova]

What are the chances PDX would give us a draft pick this year to get out of debt with us? Considering it looks like they are rebuilding.

[Plowright]

5 trades in the queue at the NBA office apparantly

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

I'm very upset that we did not make a trade. Not making a trade send the wrong message that not playing with effort and losing is not a problem.

[Chef]

What are the chances PDX would give us a draft pick this year to get out of debt with us? Considering it looks like they are rebuilding.

they can't because they traded last years pick to us. can't trade back to back firsts

[SWedd523]

I'm very upset that we did not make a trade. Not making a trade send the wrong message that not playing with effort and losing is just fine

http://pictures.funnyforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/its-time-to-stop-posting.jpg

[rsxnova]

they can't because they traded last years pick to us. can't trade back to back firsts

Cant you get by that through drafting a player then trading him?

[SWedd523]

they can't because they traded last years pick to us. can't trade back to back firsts

They traded last years' Hornets pick

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

I'm going to come out and say it this was my first trade deadline on this forum and I really wanted to see a trade go through just for the sake of it. Even if we gave away Boris Diaws expiring for Kirk Hinrich's expiring

[Chef]

5 trades in the queue at the NBA office apparantly

boris to nj for houston first

dj to sac for uprotected first

tyrus to wash for wall and blatche

diop to port for crawford and cash

carroll to minn for first

[dnbman]

Cant you get by that through drafting a player then trading him?

Yes. You just can't future draft picks in back to back years.

[dnbman]

boris to nj for houston first

dj to sac for uprotected first

tyrus to wash for wall and blatche

diop to port for crawford and cash

carroll to minn for first

Dude. Don't hurt us like that.

[Chef]

They traded last years' Hornets pick

then get on the phone cho, what are you waiting for?

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

Clips get there 2 guard through Nick Young in a 3 teamer wonder if we're involved

[Chef]

Dude. Don't hurt us like that.

unnamed sources are saying this to me

[Plowright]

**SHIT JUST GONE DOWN**

Nick Young gone to Clippers as part of a 3-way

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The Clippers have traded for Washington's Nick Young as part of a three-way deal, source tells Y! Sports.

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

nothing from Woj on who the 3rd team is though atm

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

nothing from Woj on who the 3rd team is though atm the 3rd team is Denver

[Pepperz]

I'm very upset that we did not make a trade. Not making a trade send the wrong message that not playing with effort and losing is not a problem.

Yup, how did you know that is Cho game plan. I think he plans on resigning Diaw for a 5 year 60 mil this off season just so he can keep up the no effort we like to lose campaign. Might have to give Diop an extension too for he is part of that picture.

Cho has a plan. He is not going to deviate from that for a quick happy fix today at the expense for the future.

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

Hmm dam that moment of excitement I had when I thought we were in a 3 teamer

[dnbman]

Wow. Denver shipping out Nene.

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Yup, how did you know that is Cho game plan. I think he plans on resigning Diaw for a 5 year 60 mil this off season just so he can keep up the no effort we like to lose campaign. Might have to give Diop an extension too for he is part of that picture.

Cho has a plan. He is not going to deviate from that for a quick happy fix today at the expense for the future. I'm not saying that he does not have a plan. But the thing is you can get better now and get much better in two to three years from now.

[Plowright]

dam thats nice for Clips. I like it for Den as well. Washington... what are you doing?

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

Nate McMillan fired on deadline day so kinda relevant and does the wash trade mean theres still 4 trades that could go through

[dnbman]

LOL at McMillan being fired. He's probably a nice guy, but it sounded bad over in Portland. Wonder if they have another one of the trades on the NBA desk.

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

how do you know 4 trades are gnna go down?

[dnbman]

how do you know 4 trades are gnna go down?

One of the sources said there were still 5 trades at the league office. They have to submitted by 3, but official trades could still be announced.

[Pepperz]

I'm not saying that he does not have a plan. But the thing is you can get better now and get much better in two to three years from now.

Better now in what way? Our team is at a all time low. Our guys dont carry much value so to demand something for them is crazy to begin with. I know we are going thru some bad times now but its all for a reason. We had to get rid of any talent that would help us win in the moment. Remember that middle of the pack teams? To good to get a great draft pick but to crappy to never win a title, Purgatory. We did what he had to do. The main part of building this team will be thru the draft. Not any trade that we make today will change that. So get off Cho nuts about making trades. The sky is not falling.

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

Plowman said there was 5 so I'm assuming that minusing the Denver one which I think was one of the trades on the NBA's desk then theres 4 left

[JefDav84]

Wait, what. RT @markrsports: TSN says DJ Augustin to OKC. Like this move!

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Wait, what. RT @markrsports: TSN says DJ Augustin to OKC. Like this move!

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

Wait, what. RT @markrsports: TSN says DJ Augustin to OKC. Like this move!
Probably the Reggie Jackson Nazr one that was mentioned before somewhere

[adam187]

wouldn't be surprised. we always trade with them.

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

Probably the Reggie Jackson Nazr one that was mentioned before somewhere What I saw Rick on twitter 10 minutes ago said that we did not make any trade.

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

i dont believe rick tbh....ever

[dnbman]

Can't find a legit source on DJ.

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OKC getting D.J. Augustin is not a done deal and it may not happen.

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

What I saw Rick on twitter 10 minutes ago said that we did not make any trade.
posted that then said waiting to here from higgins

[Plowright]

Leave it to us to make a deal that doesn't go through lol

Also on a side note, do you think Rick has ANY contacts within the Bobcats organisation? He never has any info and is always wrong.

[skratch]

Dj Augustin for Kevin durant :biggrin:

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Howard Beck: Plugged-in person predicts Nate McMillan will eventually land in Charlotte. Put it in the category of informed speculation

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[Dcarnys]

What I saw Rick on twitter 10 minutes ago said that we did not make any trade.

One thing about Rick, when he says their isn't a trade, take it with a grain of salt.

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

Dj Augustin for Kevin durant :biggrin: Gana Diop Boris Diaw and Dj Augestin for Kevin Durant. :biggrin:

[DUnit24]

I wouldnt mind Nate McMillen. I think hes a pretty good coach but then again, he had a talented team in Portland and it just fell apart.

Ive read some rumors that D'Antoni could come to Charlotte and coach as well.

I think they are just that though...rumors

Regarding the OKC possible trade - I wouldnt mind getting Reggie Jackson from them. Always liked that kid.

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

Bonell has just tweeted the "Bobcats said" they have not traded Augustin, although he seems more interested in the UNC Asheville game so.....

[dnbman]

Bonnell is saying FO denies the DJ trade.

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

i heard we didnt trade DJ.....hope im wrong tho

[DUnit24]

I just wish they would come out and say no trades were made..period.

Or have we?

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

They said we haven't traded Augustin specifically so maybe they've traded someone else

[dnbman]

I think they did to Bonnell, though I know you guys are skeptical of his information.

[Wolfpackbobcat]

Bring McMillan Home!

[Mustachio]

Bring McMillan Home!


Ummmm hell no. Been to the playoffs in 3 of 6 years with Portland and never made it out of the first round. Oh and he basically couldn't control the Portland version of the 2010 Bobcats roster. That team fell apart, why would we want anything to do with that guy?

[dnbman]

I don't have ANY animosity towards the FO, but I can't lie: this is a bit of a let-down.

[WAM9]

I don't have ANY animosity towards the FO, but I can't lie: this is a bit of a let-down.

I agree 100% dnbman.

I have to believe that the right deal just wasn't there. Maybe this is a good sign. Maybe, just maybe, it means that our FO is not going to be the doorstep for the league (trade wise) anymore. I would rather have no trade than a bad one.

[dnbman]

I have to believe that the right deal just wasn't there.

Me too, but having a trade that was in-line with our long term goals would have at least been a signal that there's some method to the madness and not just an attempt to get rid of contracts. Now we likely can't use DJ or Diaw to gain anything, even if we will eventually get cap space.

[Brad]

Teams knew that Diaw would be walking after the trade deadline, therefore they didn't want to part with anything to get him ... and the Bobcats weren't willing to take on garbage to get rid of him.

DJ Augustin is a RFA this year, no?

[Mustachio]

Teams knew that Diaw would be walking after the trade deadline, therefore they didn't want to part with anything to get him ... and the Bobcats weren't willing to take on garbage to get rid of him.

DJ Augustin is a RFA this year, no?


Even worse... his dumb ass agent made it public knowledge that a buyout was on the table. Why would anyone trade when they can wait til tomorrow to get him for free?

[dnbman]

DJ Augustin is a RFA this year, no?

Right, but if a team offers $7M+ a year, we'd have to match to be a player. Obviously, we can try a sign and trade, but that usually only works if the S-a-T provides the player with more money or years than the team acquiring him, which I doubt will be the case.

[Chef]

Even worse... his dumb ass agent made it public knowledge that a buyout was on the table. Why would anyone trade when they can wait til tomorrow to get him for free?

i would not offer him a buyout out of spite.

[tondi]

i would not offer him a buyout out of spite.

Diaws people did it to keep his trade value down and hopefully position him for a buyout. That way he gets paid and gets to decide where he goes post buyout. I wouldn't buy him out now, period.

[Mustachio]

i would not offer him a buyout out of spite.


totally agree. We have nothing to lose by keeping him cold on the bench.

[spectre]

The deal just wasn't there.

LAL got Sessions for Walton/Kapono and LAL's 1st. Sessions is having a better year than DJ and I would have been mad if it was him instead. LAL then had to give up a 1st to move Fish.

Those are crap deals.

What about the top 3 protected pick POR just got for Crash from NJ? LOL! Crash could opt out, Deron leave in FA and they'd be moving to Brooklyn with Lopez and...? Wow.

Least we aren't NJ. MUCH better to hold to course and not do something stupid...which we most likely would have done before Cho. I'm disappointed, but not in our FO.

[ohara831]

The deal just wasn't there.

LAL got Sessions for Walton/Kapono and LAL's 1st. Sessions is having a better year than DJ and I would have been mad if it was him instead. LAL then had to give up a 1st to move Fish.

Those are crap deals.

What about the top 3 protected pick POR just got for Crash from NJ? LOL! Crash could opt out, Deron leave in FA and they'd be moving to Brooklyn with Lopez and...? Wow.

Least we aren't NJ. MUCH better to hold to course and not do something stupid...which we most likely would have done before Cho. I'm disappointed, but not in our FO.

Great post! +1

[superb1]

I blame Dwight Howard, lol j/k. but it seems all the teams were scrambling to get something done and not really thinking it through. I was shock and a little disappointed we did not get any draft picks but Cho kept a level head and did not pulled the trigger prematurely. So he not a premmie.

[bbh2020]

I like everyone else was excited to see some kind of trade, but now is not the time to maximize your assets. Noone was going to pay much for Diaw as they new he would be bought out and they could get him for free.

I'm sure CHO will be wheeling and dealing this summer before the draft. He knows better than anyone that you have to build your team through the draft. He did it last year, and he will try again using DJ and our 2013 expirings.

The summer of 2014 is when we will make a big free agent splash, unless we make a big trade before then to acquire that a disgruntled star.

Patience is required, as painful as it is.

[Scottley Crue]

The deal just wasn't there.

LAL got Sessions for Walton/Kapono and LAL's 1st. Sessions is having a better year than DJ and I would have been mad if it was him instead. LAL then had to give up a 1st to move Fish.

Those are crap deals.

What about the top 3 protected pick POR just got for Crash from NJ? LOL! Crash could opt out, Deron leave in FA and they'd be moving to Brooklyn with Lopez and...? Wow.

Least we aren't NJ. MUCH better to hold to course and not do something stupid...which we most likely would have done before Cho. I'm disappointed, but not in our FO.

I'm with you on this. The best deal we probably could have got was the Diaw to NJ one, but Dwight Howard killed that around lunchtime today. And not getting that isn't something to lose sleep over. We're in a good spot with over $12 million in expirings and a nice, high draft pick in a deep draft. Cho had that in his back pocket going in and knew that there was nothing wrong with keeping that hand. (Unlike NJ...what are they doing? Giving up their own pick and expiring contracts? For Crash? In the hopes that he's enough to keep D-Will around? Love the guy and what he did for the 'Cats, but man, oh, man...Gotta say I'm glad to not be on the wrong side of one of those head-scratchers.)

On top of that, there's another opportunity to add talent via trade come draft time. Nothing wrong with holding steady.

[Talent]

I like not dealing Diaw..His contract is 9 mill we can spend on something useful at the end of the year.

[BETCATS]

I am glad we didn't do anything stupid this year. No Diop/Dampier type trade ftw. Cho knows how to play the field. If he couldn't get what he wanted for the french fatzo he saw the advantage of keeping him. I hope we let Diaw rot away too, although a free roster spot for a random young d-leauger would at least make things interesting.

[Dcarnys]

Little bit annoyed Diaw is still here but when its all said and done I cant complain. Hes still $9million off the books this off-season.

[QC Thundercats]

I agree, no point in giving up an expiring if we're not going to get a pick out of it, especially at $9M.

I'm also in the camp that Diaw should spend the rest of the season wearing his best French couture on the sidelines. He almost seems insulted that Silas even puts him in the game, with his straight up refusal to even try to score - "ahhh, aye dun like to shoot ze ball, onlee ze passez." (or however you do a french impersonation in type). If he didn't try to help us this year, why would we help him with a buyout. If he wants to join a contender, then he's more than welcome to at the start of next season.

[Pepperz]

Keep Diaw on the sideline. Dont give him what he wants.

[dav7z]

Let him buy us out for about 3 milion if he wants to leave so bad . If not put his lazy ass carring the equipment and force him to attend the games.

[Scottley Crue]

Though I'm really, really not inclined to reward the type of behavior Diaw has displayed, they do need to go ahead and buy him out (for as close to nothing as possible...would love for it to be that we let him walk but he gives up all remaining salary). Neither side needs or wants each other, and quite frankly, it's a bad showing to the rest of the players around the league. All keeping him on the roster and not playing him does is show how spiteful the organization can be, and that's just not a good look for anyone. So, as much as I'm not fond of it, they do need to go their separate ways and wish each other luck in their future endeavors.

[Pepperz]

Though I'm really, really not inclined to reward the type of behavior Diaw has displayed, they do need to go ahead and buy him out (for as close to nothing as possible...would love for it to be that we let him walk but he gives up all remaining salary). Neither side needs or wants each other, and quite frankly, it's a bad showing to the rest of the players around the league. All keeping him on the roster and not playing him does is show how spiteful the organization can be, and that's just not a good look for anyone. So, as much as I'm not fond of it, they do need to go their separate ways and wish each other luck in their future endeavors.

No player is even going to consider that. First of all, how many players are asking for buyouts? Its a rare thing to begin with. If we wanted him to leave, well cover the tab. Since he wants to leave, he will have to cover the tab. Even if a player would even brings this up, I wouldnt even want him on our team. I want players that are committed to our team.

[Scottley Crue]

No player is even going to consider that. First of all, how many players are asking for buyouts? Its a rare thing to begin with. If we wanted him to leave, well cover the tab. Since he wants to leave, he will have to cover the tab. Even if a player would even brings this up, I wouldnt even want him on our team. I want players that are committed to our team.

Players do get together and talk shop, so I just think it'd be a good idea to not have the idea that the Bobcats might do something to a player out of sheer spite (and holding on to and not playing a guy that you have no real use for that could be set free to go somewhere else is something that I'd imagine would get the attention of at least a few players). I'm not saying we'd be the first origination to do something spiteful to a player, I just think it reflects badly on the team and could possibly look that way to players thinking about coming here. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a massive problem that will cause us to barely have enough players to field a team. I'd just prefer that idea not be in the back of potential player's minds is all.

On top of that, as much as I don't want to reward his behavior, it's just bad business. It's not a good fit for either side, so parting ways is best. No need to hold Diaw up or have him take up a roster spot that could be used for someone else. Moving on is best for both sides here.

[superb1]

Players do get together and talk shop, so I just think it'd be a good idea to not have the idea that the Bobcats might do something to a player out of sheer spite (and holding on to and not playing a guy that you have no real use for that could be set free to go somewhere else is something that I'd imagine would get the attention of at least a few players). I'm not saying we'd be the first origination to do something spiteful to a player, I just think it reflects badly on the team and could possibly look that way to players thinking about coming here. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a massive problem that will cause us to barely have enough players to field a team. I'd just prefer that idea not be in the back of potential player's minds is all.

On top of that, as much as I don't want to reward his behavior, it's just bad business. It's not a good fit for either side, so parting ways is best. No need to hold Diaw up or have him take up a roster spot that could be used for someone else. Moving on is best for both sides here.

I reluctantly agree and this is true for the long term health of the team. But it can also state that crap Diaw has been doing won't be tolerated by MJ either if you come here to play for him. Like players talk shop, well I know many know how Diaw has played is shitty. I know a few owners feel the same way too. But honestly, I think we should set an example and hold him hostage. Players have been doing it in a sense for the last few years. i.e. Carmelo, Dwight, Lebron

[adam187]

what if the money we saved from a diaw buyout was used to buy a late draft pick or as extra incentive for a trade? would that change people's minds?

[The Prodigy]

I feel ya girl. I reacted the same way when he left us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqQt01uFXyc