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Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan
03-28-2012, 09:18 PM
Do you guys think Kemba should be starting now especially? I for one do...He plays hard the entire game and doesnt look like he quits...and hes a rookie and its looking like DJA isnt coming back why not let kemba start get more experience...he even said he plays better as a starter because he can set the tempo and the game slows down more for him. DJA looks like a guy who doesnt even care anymore....IK he had some knee injury tonight but still its been like this the past few nights and SILAS hates guys who give little efffort and it looks like DJ is doing that....what do you guys think about kemba starting over DJ?

ohara831
03-28-2012, 09:23 PM
Would not be opposed to that at all. Really want Kemba to get more time at the point.

Dcarnys
03-28-2012, 10:03 PM
Please!! We have nothing to lose by starting Kemba. Hes the better player right now.

superb1
03-28-2012, 10:45 PM
I feel like it will be coming soon. They split the game tonight and Kemba outplayed DJ

Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan
03-28-2012, 10:49 PM
Kemba has been playing better no doubt and they put him in during the 4th Q...think thats some kind of hidden sign idk lol

ND22
03-28-2012, 11:05 PM
I think its time. With Augustin turning down the Bobcats extension offer I feel he is on the way out of here in the offseason. Combine that with his tepid play of late and the case for Kemba gets stronger. Kemba is by no means arrived but with however many games are left I think its time he was given a chance.

superb1
03-29-2012, 12:04 AM
hey Silas might as well start Kemba, he has taken upon himself to let he son get coaching experience. Since this is the case and they are using the team a training exercise, let Kemba start

skratch
03-29-2012, 12:10 AM
he should if Dj is really gonna walk, but tonight was the first time in a couple games hes outplayed DJ

anton273
03-29-2012, 04:32 AM
I dont know anything about contracts so someone break it down for me?

Can DJ walk this season? Or can we still trade him at draft night??

If DJ can still be traded i think we should still make DJ get minutes to increase trade value. If he will just walk then Kemba should start, no other way of progressing then actually playing.

Plowright
03-29-2012, 07:11 AM
if we want to do a S & T with DJ around draft night benching him would just destroy his value all together. Keep starting DJ, but just play kemba starting minutes i reckon

QC Thundercats
03-29-2012, 12:20 PM
Has DJ completely checked out? He's putting up fat Boris numbers now - look at his last five games:

24 minutes per game
3.4 ppg
4.8 apg
19% FG (5-26)
11% 3FG (1-9)

Playing more won't increase his trade value, he's destroying his own value. If his knee or toe is bothering him, he needs to shut it down for awhile. Or if it's his personal issue with playing for the team, then that's not being a professional, and we should say his knee is hurt and shut him down for the season anyway.

He was 0-5, 0-4, and 0-2 in three of those games, all while playing over 20 minutes. That shows to me either not caring, or a complete lack of aggressiveness. Both are a problem competitively to me. If its injuries, don't be a hero; if it's not, I don't know what to say.

Kemba should be starting at this point, but I do understand we'd try to keep DJs value as high as possible. I just don't think trotting him out there like he is helps that, and he should go ahead and be deactivated due to "injury."

spectre
03-29-2012, 01:25 PM
As QC's #s show DJ isn't deserving the starting role. What happened to Silas' "holding the players accountable" & "playing the guys who give forth the effort"?

So long as DJ is starting and putting up those kinds of #s Silas loses credibility (not that he has that much with me anyway).

For the record...we should have took the best deal at the deadline (preferably way before the deadline) and give Kemba full reign a while back.

ohara831
03-29-2012, 05:03 PM
As QC's #s show DJ isn't deserving the starting role. What happened to Silas' "holding the players accountable" & "playing the guys who give forth the effort"?

So long as DJ is starting and putting up those kinds of #s Silas loses credibility (not that he has that much with me anyway).

For the record...we should have took the best deal at the deadline (preferably way before the deadline) and give Kemba full reign a while back.

I agree. I feel deals were there to be made. Maybe we did not want to take any comparable salary back and were just satisfied with getting the cap space from not resigning DJ. That wont upset me if we use that cap space for a player like Batum or such. I just have a gnawing feeling in my gut that tells me not dealing DJ may have to do with that more than no reasonable deals coming along.

dav7z
03-29-2012, 05:05 PM
Has DJ completely checked out? He's putting up fat Boris numbers now - look at his last five games:

24 minutes per game
3.4 ppg
4.8 apg
19% FG (5-26)
11% 3FG (1-9)

Playing more won't increase his trade value, he's destroying his own value. If his knee or toe is bothering him, he needs to shut it down for awhile. Or if it's his personal issue with playing for the team, then that's not being a professional, and we should say his knee is hurt and shut him down for the season anyway.

He was 0-5, 0-4, and 0-2 in three of those games, all while playing over 20 minutes. That shows to me either not caring, or a complete lack of aggressiveness. Both are a problem competitively to me. If its injuries, don't be a hero; if it's not, I don't know what to say.

Kemba should be starting at this point, but I do understand we'd try to keep DJs value as high as possible. I just don't think trotting him out there like he is helps that, and he should go ahead and be deactivated due to "injury."
Like i said on another thread . I set beside thease guys last week . DJ din't even talk to the other guys on the team. He was just going through the motions.

All so all Salis did was keep saying come on guys . His son called the plays in time outs and made most of the subsitutions.

murphman
03-29-2012, 06:50 PM
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/03/29/1968236/silas-believes-augustins-injury.html

Sounds like DJ is forcing himself to play perhaps because he knows he is auditioning for free agency this summer. In the end, it is only hurting the team and himself.

Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan
03-29-2012, 07:31 PM
Silas is a hyporcrite when it comes to this no effort stuff...dj is playing terrible and hardly trying it looks like but he's starting...

Mustachio
03-29-2012, 09:55 PM
Silas is a hyporcrite when it comes to this no effort stuff...dj is playing terrible and hardly trying it looks like but he's starting...


I understand this sentiment, but i dont see this as hypocrisy. Silas has to say that stuff. He cant go on tv or radio and say "hey guys, we ain't even really trying". He has to say "I want guys who are trying hard". And I honestly don't hold any grudges against DJ and Diaw not trying. I get that we are paying them and that fans are paying to see a competitive product, and that should be enough. but when its this obvious that our goal isnt to win the championship so much as the number one draft pick. I think it would be hard to get all that excited be it player or coach.

Its a crappy situation. But its the situation we find ourselves in at this point. We are doing what we have to do to get good. It sucks but its the only way.

dav7z
03-30-2012, 12:03 AM
I understand this sentiment, but i dont see this as hypocrisy. Silas has to say that stuff. He cant go on tv or radio and say "hey guys, we ain't even really trying". He has to say "I want guys who are trying hard". And I honestly don't hold any grudges against DJ and Diaw not trying. I get that we are paying them and that fans are paying to see a competitive product, and that should be enough. but when its this obvious that our goal isnt to win the championship so much as the number one draft pick. I think it would be hard to get all that excited be it player or coach.

Its a crappy situation. But its the situation we find ourselves in at this point. We are doing what we have to do to get good. It sucks but its the only way.

I agree Must , but he still needs to work with his team mates and do the best job he can for them . He has that i don't give a damn attitude around them all so. He acted as if he had no frinds at all on the team . Im sure he wanted traded at the deadline and expected to be traded . But thats not reason enough to screw his team mates. Hes only hurting his self long run.

Black
03-30-2012, 08:45 PM
Has DJ completely checked out? He's putting up fat Boris numbers now - look at his last five games:

24 minutes per game
3.4 ppg
4.8 apg
19% FG (5-26)
11% 3FG (1-9)

Playing more won't increase his trade value, he's destroying his own value. If his knee or toe is bothering him, he needs to shut it down for awhile. Or if it's his personal issue with playing for the team, then that's not being a professional, and we should say his knee is hurt and shut him down for the season anyway.

He was 0-5, 0-4, and 0-2 in three of those games, all while playing over 20 minutes. That shows to me either not caring, or a complete lack of aggressiveness. Both are a problem competitively to me. If its injuries, don't be a hero; if it's not, I don't know what to say.

Kemba should be starting at this point, but I do understand we'd try to keep DJs value as high as possible. I just don't think trotting him out there like he is helps that, and he should go ahead and be deactivated due to "injury."

I'm glad I checked this thread, because I was about to start a new thread saying this. He has indeed checked out it appears. He's in the middle of another stinker against Denver. He really reminds me of Boris. He has only scored in double figures SIX times since February 1. That is ridiculous. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, DJ.

TheBeagle
03-31-2012, 07:38 PM
Went to the game last night and there's no question it's Kemba's time. Either DJ's injury is too debilitating or he's completely checked out (probably a combination) but either way, Kemba's the better poing guard between the two, and Kemba is the future, so there's no excuse at this point. Sometime in the second half, Kemba set Reggie up for an "and one" and he was more pumped up about that play, while trailing, in the midst of a seven win season, than DJ has been maybe ever as a Bobcat. It sends the wrong message to keep starting DJ ahead of Kemba.

adam187
04-02-2012, 03:27 PM
kemba's starting at point tomorrow night.

Let's Go Cats 218
04-02-2012, 03:56 PM
I'll admit that I haven't been able to watch many Bobcats games this season because I live in Greenville, NC... and Suddenlink cable only gets FS Carolinas, which is always the Hurricanes. We don't get SportSouth... I hate that. But I have been able to see a few games on the computer, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think at this point, DJ is better than Kemba. DJ is a better shooter, and has more experience. I know we drafted Kemba to take over, but what little I've seen of him, he's struggled... but there are some flashes of incredible talent on his part. Are we of the mindset that better or not, we need to start Kemba because he is the future, and this season is over anyway?

Mustachio
04-02-2012, 04:25 PM
and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think at this point, DJ is better than Kemba. DJ is a better shooter, and has more experience. I know we drafted Kemba to take over, but what little I've seen of him, he's struggled... but there are some flashes of incredible talent on his part. Are we of the mindset that better or not, we need to start Kemba because he is the future, and this season is over anyway?

I will correct you since you are wrong. I'm kidding. DJ probably is a little tiny incy wincy bit better than Kemba right now. But DJ has been in the league for 4 years now and Kemba is miles ahead of where DJ was at the same point. With the aching knee of DJ starting to linger, the season all but over anyway and Kembas age... its time to move forward on Project Kemba. Kemba has had his struggles no doubt, but I think in the few wins we have this year... Kemba has been the better point guard imo.

ND22
04-02-2012, 04:46 PM
As I said earlier, I'm for this. If Augustin isn't going to be here beyond this year (and it looks that way), we need to see how Kemba works as a starter.

spectre
04-02-2012, 05:42 PM
I was for it like 50 games ago.

What Mustachio said. Also as ND said and from what else we've heard DJ's moving on.

murphman
04-02-2012, 06:38 PM
I've been wondering this for a couple of weeks now but thought it was too far fetched to throw out there but here goes: With DJs play recently, is it really possible that the best offer he can get as a free agent this summer is so far below what the Cats offered back in January that he decides to work on getting healthy & come back here on his one year tendered offer of 4.4 million? He may still get an OK offer elsewhere but it may be on a team with a starting PG cemented in already so he knows he would be a backup for the term of his contract. Here he can still compete with Kemba, log solid minutes & be the main guy if Kemba hits a sophmore slump or gets injured. Still seems unlikely but if he continues to play like this, his stock isn't going anywhere.

Plowright
04-02-2012, 09:03 PM
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/04/02/3146039/kemba-walker-byron-mullens-lead.html

About time!