Which 2 players you covet if we DO trade down.....

[Veteran_Picksetter]

Which two lower picks would you like to add if we fail to get number 1 and then trade down?

Should pure point guard extraordinare Kendall Marshall enter the discussion? Maybe we are done with DJ. Marshall is 6'4" and could possibly defend some 2guards, allowing him to play with Kemba. You get a 3-guard rotation of Marshall, Walker, and Henderson. That's a nice mix of skills.

Dare I say grab TWO Heels? Yeah, I know--Nightmares from 2005! It didn't work last time, but this Tar Heel group has better NBA size for their positions. I'm intrigued with how Tyler Zeller would fit with Biyombo. Or say you drafted Marshall and Barnes. Would their offense-generating chemistry carry over to the pros, thus making them better than the sum of their talents? We all know Barnes needs a point guard to create for him.

Or let's say you use one of the two picks for a risky-but-talented guy like Perry Jones or Terrence Jones? And use the OTHER pick for a safer guy.

Thoughts?

[Toocool]

Which two lower picks would you like to add if we fail to get number 1 and then trade down?

Should pure point guard extraordinare Kendall Marshall enter the discussion? Maybe we are done with DJ. Marshall is 6'4" and could possibly defend some 2guards, allowing him to play with Kemba. You get a 3-guard rotation of Marshall, Walker, and Henderson. That's a nice mix of skills.

I would disagree on grabbing Marshall. On any other occasion, I would be clamoring and licking my lips to draft Marshall. However the team as it is now can barely put the ball in the basket, Marshall's passing skills would be awesome but we need scoring more.

As for two picks? Depends on the draft picks we get, but there are a lot of really nice PFs in this draft. Guys like Sullinger, T. Rob, Henson are all nice prospects but all also have question marks on how they'll do in the pros. Someone like Beal would be neat, don't know if anyone else is on the Barnes bandwagon anymore. MKG would be a good pick if he slipped past 4. Could also take a punt and grab someone like Perry Jones (like you said VP), but then again everything would depend on how far we would trade down. God willing though, we get the no.1 pick and take Davis and smile all the way to the bank. Then we get a professional waxer in to destroy that caterpillar on his face.

[Plowright]

Not Marshal for me, his foot speed is distinctly average as is his athleticism. He might have the size to guard 2s but nothing else

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Thomas Robinson as long as he measures out at legit big man height. With the 2nd I'm not too sure. I love Robinson's athleticism and physicality, but I don't want to take him at 2 or 3.

[spectre]

Would we do 1st for NOLA's pick (currently 3rd) and Eric Gordon?

Saw that idea floated on RGM's General Board.

[Chef]

Would we do 1st for NOLA's pick (currently 3rd) and Eric Gordon?

Saw that idea floated on RGM's General Board.

no. we keep #1.

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Would we do 1st for NOLA's pick (currently 3rd) and Eric Gordon?

Saw that idea floated on RGM's General Board.


I would do it for 2 lottery picks plus Eric Gordon.

If we give up #1, then we need to make sure that the team we are dealing with gets soundly bent over.

[Chef]

I would do it for 2 lottery picks plus Eric Gordon.

If we give up #1, then we need to make sure that the team we are dealing with gets soundly bent over.

still not sure i would do it for say #3, #11 and eric gordon. if anthony davis turns into a player on the level of tim duncan, kg or bill russell there is no way that value adds up to #3 and #11 and an oft injured non-all star shooting guard on a big contract. even if #3 is drummond and he ends up being andrew bynum.

[SWedd523]

Not Marshal for me, his foot speed is distinctly average as is his athleticism. He might have the size to guard 2s but nothing else
He's one of the few players in the draft that has an elite level skill. Davis--defense, Robinson--rebounding, Marshall--passing.

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I've become a fan of Moe Harkless after doing some research of SF's. He dropped 15/9 as a freshman and comparisons are there to Rudy Gay. I kinda see a less accurate, more slasher type version of Joe Johnson.

[Plowright]

He's one of the few players in the draft that has an elite level skill. Davis--defense, Robinson--rebounding, Marshall--passing.

Sorry i should have elaborated. When I said he had nothing else i meant defensively. Obviously his passing is the best of any PG to come out of college in the last few years

[SWedd523]

Steve Nash is a horrible defender too ;)


But yeah, I know what you're saying. He definitely has some questions about his game but I'd easily trade DJ or Kemba for him

[GoBobs]

Want: MKG, Beal, Jermey Lamb, Austin Rivers, Marquis Teague, Royce White

Don't want: Henson, Marshal, Sullinger, Zeller (either one), Wroten, Barnes, Terrance Jones

[Plowright]

Steve Nash is a horrible defender too ;)


But yeah, I know what you're saying. He definitely has some questions about his game but I'd easily trade DJ or Kemba for him

I never said I wouldnt want him, TooCool was just going on about his defence when realisticly that is one of his drawbacks. I would trade DJ for him but not Kemba. He isn't a great shooter, Nash could stroke it from 3. Also he will struggle to get into the lane in the NBA. Imagine people like John Wall defending him, his athleticism would be a real problem for Marshall.

We cannot keep drafting "future Point guards every year" the Timberwolves were dumb to do it and lucked out on a special player like Rubio. Are you saying Kemba has not shown enough to be our starting PG in the future?

[SWedd523]

I never said I wouldnt want him, TooCool was just going on about his defence when realisticly that is one of his drawbacks. I would trade DJ for him but not Kemba. He isn't a great shooter, Nash could stroke it from 3. Also he will struggle to get into the lane in the NBA. Imagine people like John Wall defending him, his athleticism would be a real problem for Marshall.

We cannot keep drafting "future Point guards every year" the Timberwolves were dumb to do it and lucked out on a special player like Rubio. Are you saying Kemba has not shown enough to be our starting PG in the future?
A guy like Marshall doesn't use athleticism. He doesn't need to get into the paint and certainly won't be bothered by a guy taking that away from him. John Wall can stay in front of him all day long, but he's still going to pick apart any team with his passing.

I don't really know where you get that the Wolves drafted a PG every year. A little research will tell you that in 2009, they had 4 first round picks. One PG (Rubio) wasn't going to come over for a few years, one PG (Lawson) was traded, and one PG (Flynn) was insurance in case they'd have to trade Rubio because he didn't want to play in Minnesota. All three PGs were highly regarded coming into that draft.

And I don't think Kemba has shown anything that says he can be a top 10 PG in the future, at least not yet. Besides, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to have Marshall play the Jason Kidd role and let Kemba play the Jason Terry role? If Marshall is the BPA, why not pick him?

[Plowright]

obv if he is the BP at 11th pick. But he won't be. I know you say he does not need penetration, but we shall see. I would have to disagree with you there. Also, he still needs to become a better shooter or other players will just sag off him which will fill the passing lanes that he used

[Veteran_Picksetter]

I never said I wouldnt want him, TooCool was just going on about his defence when realisticly that is one of his drawbacks. I would trade DJ for him but not Kemba. He isn't a great shooter, Nash could stroke it from 3. Also he will struggle to get into the lane in the NBA. Imagine people like John Wall defending him, his athleticism would be a real problem for Marshall.

We cannot keep drafting "future Point guards every year" the Timberwolves were dumb to do it and lucked out on a special player like Rubio. Are you saying Kemba has not shown enough to be our starting PG in the future?

Where did TooCool go on about his defence? And I believe your exact words were "Not Marshall for me". That sounds like you don't want him.

That said, let's assume we are done with DJ. With a lower pick, why not draft a tall Point Guard like Marshall? He could be on the court with Kemba. Kemba allows him to guard the bigger(slower) guards, and Marshall allows Kemba to be more of an offensive shooting guard for stretches.

You still start Kemba at the PG, but you mix in Marshall with him and Henderson. Heck, I bet Henderson could guard some point guards if he had to.

The idea is that we get a PG(Marshall?) in addition to another position(SF?C?) if we trade down. There is such a drop off after Davis, trading down could make sense.....

[Veteran_Picksetter]

Marshall showed scoring ability at the end of the season, especially with Henson injured and Barnes off his game.

[Toocool]

Where did TooCool go on about his defence?.


I'm rather curious myself.

[Plowright]

My ad it was Picksetter in the original post

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

I've become a fan of Moe Harkless after doing some research of SF's. He dropped 15/9 as a freshman and comparisons are there to Rudy Gay. I kinda see a less accurate, more slasher type version of Joe Johnson.
i'm also intrigued by Harkless his D and outside shot arent up to scratch but he's got such a high ceiling with his athleticsm

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

if we could get 2 lottery guys id like MKG and terrance ross or jeremy lamb...i got a feeling ross will be the steal of the draft..him or wroten

[Plowright]

I am a fan or Ross as well, I think his game will fit the pros better

[Veteran_Picksetter]

My ad it was Picksetter in the original post

Where did I ever go on about Marshall's defense or imply that he was a good defender? I just said he could guard some 2's while on the floor with Kemba, if memory serves. They would be easier for his "slow" self to stay in front of than point guards.....

I don't follow. Plow, were you juggling this thread with something on Rufusonfire??