View Full Version : D Brown and DJ White
05-04-2012, 03:30 PM
What to do with thease two guys ?
1st Ill state my thoughts on Brown . I like the kid but hes not a natural s/f and hes to small to play the power . A player who might do well on the end of some bench . Because he can play both positions some but neither well.
My position is we got to cut him let him walk .
With Maggs one more year and the need for a vetran [Jamison ] and one of our two picks a s/f It shouldn't any need for Brown .
DJ White . Its this simple if we draft the unibrow Davis . White is a waste on this team . If we don't land the first pick and draft a s/f im still all most sure we draft one with our second pick . If not then we sign J Thompson or a Hickson type . The way i see it . Its no need to bring either player back
05-04-2012, 06:27 PM
Keep Brown...he'll be cheap and he gave us more positive than negative, which is saying a lot for any player this past season.
I wouldn't even offer a contract to White. He's one of those low BBIQ players that we need to stay away from.
05-04-2012, 06:40 PM
get rid of both of them
05-04-2012, 09:53 PM
Keep Brown. He has heart and a lot of room for improvement/willingness to work. He played harder than most of our roster did this year. Jamison is a pf, so if we do bring him in he wouldnt take time away from UPS.
DJW can go. I'll miss him but he isn't what we need right now.
05-04-2012, 10:53 PM
I would keep UPS but don't make a longtime commitment though. As far as DJW, we can cut him, if we don't get AD, we probably end up with a PF or C, then we still have TT (which would be hard to unload) and Mullens. So White can go.
05-04-2012, 11:00 PM
I think Cho views each player, contract and draft pick as an asset. I know that's a stretch, but even Diop's contract will be a trade asset this upcoming season. Cho will use all those assets to bring in more assets, hopefully via getting additional trade picks.
Even if we get the #1 pick, it's important that we don't make stupid knee jerk trades (Thomas, Diop) or over-pay for free agents, including our own (Okafor, Thomas) this summer. This summer is going to sink some teams with the CBA unless the economy somehow recovers big time and the NBA revenues increase by double digits.
All the players that are free agents, even restricted free agents, are expecting/comparing their worth to contracts that have been signed in the past to comparable players. Problem is, with flat revenue, a comparable contract should be at least 12-15% lower. I know Cho understands this, hopefully MJ listens, and this time around, I think MJ will.
05-04-2012, 11:11 PM
Great point BlockParty.
It will be interesting seeing how contracts are offered and constructed this offseason. There's a strong possibility the cap will go down after next season because of the new CBA. I think the GMs of teams are planning for that and the market for free agents will be pretty soft.
I think a lot of players will be pissed and end up accepting less than they are expecting because of the weak market.
As far as Brown & White- I would not offer either anything over the minimum. Both players could be replaced by almost any other NBA journeyman and we wouldn't miss a beat.
05-05-2012, 01:17 AM
Both are Benchwarmers.
05-05-2012, 09:38 AM
I would keep UPS, but we still need a better stater then Maggy in front of him. He's a good back up, even though thats all he ever will be. White....I dont really care.
05-05-2012, 12:04 PM
Agree with most that we let DJW walk and keep UPS. Brown will be nothing more than a bench spark, but he gives it his all out there and is one of those rotational guys that you would have to find on the free agency market or via the draft. As long as the price is fair, keep Brown. As for Maggs, I could care less if he's out there at the 3. I view him as the SF version of Jason Richardson, in that he isn't a cornerstone piece, but he will fill in the blanks. He'll drop 30/7 and take the team on his back for a short stretch, and then he'll disappear for a longer stretch, picking up ticky-tack fouls and hurting your team. Since we aren't leaving the top-5 of the draft next year anyway, no need to search out a SF this off-season. I'm guessing we find our SF in the draft next year or on the FA market once all of the garbage contracts come off between now and next summer.
05-05-2012, 05:17 PM
I like UPS as someone to come and bring energy to the game, he wouldnt be part of the 2nd unit for a really good team. I think if we can keep him arounf for the cheap it would be good. Also he actually wants to be here which is nice.
DJW can go, so one dimensional its untrue and plays horrible defence
05-05-2012, 05:31 PM
Ok here is my fix for the Bobcats, let Brown and White walk, amnesty Maggs and trade for Dorrell Wright from GSW. With the savings from Maggs sign Courtney Lee and Chase Budinger to 3 or 4 mill dollar contracts. Someone will sign Maggs for a spurt player off the bench so Jordan won't have to fork over all of the 10 mill owed to him. That is half the money Maggs is making and you get more production. Lee will push Hendo to be better and Budinger can back up Wright at the 3. This also gives us depth at the 2 and the 3 that we were lacking when players went down with injures. We won't need White if we can sign Jamison.
05-05-2012, 11:37 PM
Keep Brown...I don't care if I never see White again.
05-06-2012, 02:21 PM
Brown is a great energy guy to come off the bench. He's fairly versatile and seems to know his role. As long as we don't have to throw much money his way, I'd love to keep him.
05-07-2012, 01:23 PM
I doubt the markets are big for either guy, so each could probably be had for cheap, but like others are saying I'd be more comfortable bringing back D.Brown as an energy/hustle guy off the bench. White has his moments where he'll get hot, but just too much left to be desired on the defensive end, and Cho's said before he wants to bring in guys who can cover (both ends of the floor).
05-07-2012, 05:05 PM
I was going to say that we liked UPS well enough to bring him back in this year, and he has produced well enough, not spectacular but enough for a role player. But this is the Rich Cho era now, so he will determine if they are keepers or deal them for better assets
Brown always brought energy, and that made up for his average skill set most of the time. He should be brought back to help with depth alone.
White is the odd man out. With Mullens, Thomas, Biyombo, Diop and possibly Davis, there isn't room for him here.
05-09-2012, 02:29 AM
I liked White, but would only keep him if we can get rid of Tyrus/Diop (a bad contract at PF/C). As for UPS, if he'll agree to a two year deal then I'd like him back. He's improved a lot and can be a nice spark off the bench..2 yrs 5 million should be more than enough for him.
05-17-2012, 10:04 PM
Please, for the love of Ray J, keep Derrick Brown. That's my DUDE.
Keep UPS for sure, as long as it's below a million. He singlehandedly made me enjoy multiple games with his effort and the fun he has while on the court. And he seems to be well-liked by the fans, too. Even if he hardly plays, it's worth it to have him around in the locker room and the community.
DJW, meh. If Diop or Tyrus goes, or we trade away someone/don't get AD, then he's an average rebounder and offensive player so I wouldn't hate keeping him. I do think a better coach could fix some of his defensive issues, because a lot of it was not knowing where to be. But I won't be heartbroken if he doesn't return.
05-17-2012, 11:54 PM
Keep UPS!!! I was so happy to see him come back to Charlotte. This is the guy on the team that always seems to have a good attitude and alot of energy. Thats very valuable on a team.
Please, for the love of Ray J, keep Derrick Brown. That's my DUDE.
Did someone say, "for the love of Ray J?"
05-23-2012, 03:12 PM
I really believe Brown is a must keep. Anyone who brings energy to the court in a season like the last one, deserves a place on the team who should only get better in the future. If we let him go, who do we get to replace him? On White, I don't care either way, we have a glut of players at the 4, and it isn't a good type of glut, just a volume of players where we can cut some dead weight.
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