Trading Down

[WAM9]

I know this has been discussed a lot but if we don't pull the #1 pick tomorrow, would Portland or NO be a serious potential trading partner?

If we get the #2 pick and assuming Portland and NO don't move up or down in the lottery...

#2 overall and next year's Portland pick (back to them) for #6 and #11 this year?

#2 overall and #31 overall to Portland for #6, #11 and #41?

#2 overall and next years Portland pick to NO for #4 and #10?

I don't know the interest from Portland and NO but I would do any of these 3 deals in a heartbeat. Your thoughts?

[polarcat]

Honestly, I don't think I would want to trade out of the top 4 this year. For me it's.....

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MKG
Beal
Drummond
Robinson
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The rest of the lottery

I'm not saying that the value at 6-13 is that much above 2-5, but I think we'd be trading Chris Paul for Felton and May in this reverse sense of the draft. We are devoid of talent and have several holes to fill, but for me, we need quality over quantity. The only deal I would do would be the last one that got us the 4th & 10th pick. Two top-10 talents and one of the 2nd tier players.

[Plowright]

Yeah I would also be opposed to trading back. I wouldnt mind trading next years Portand pick back to them in some sort of deal as next years draft is weak. What about Portland's 2013 pick and a 2nd rounder for this years 11? I dont see Portland being that great next year, so they may go down the tanking route and want that pick. I would prefer 11 this year rather than 7-11 next year for sure. Portland might want to take the gamble though and try to be as bad as top 4 or 5 next year if they own their pick

[Chef]

i have a feeling that come draft day everyone on here as well as espn etc will be entertaining the fake "is drummond maybe the best prospect in the draft?" debate. he is going to be the clear cut #2 after workouts and draft camps. if we get top 3 we are assured either drummond, beal or the brow.

[WAM9]

Yeah I would also be opposed to trading back. I wouldnt mind trading next years Portand pick back to them in some sort of deal as next years draft is weak. What about Portland's 2013 pick and a 2nd rounder for this years 11? I dont see Portland being that great next year, so they may go down the tanking route and want that pick. I would prefer 11 this year rather than 7-11 next year for sure. Portland might want to take the gamble though and try to be as bad as top 4 or 5 next year if they own their pick

Don't get me wrong, I would love to get another lottery pick without giving up our 1st this year, I just don't think it is very likely. Hopefully, I am proved wrong.

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

if we trade back with the 2nd pick and manage to get Andre Drummond and PJ3 I will be over the moon, uber athletic front court of the future with Bis, Drummond and PJ3

[polarcat]

As for moving up, I'm hoping more for us using our 2nd round pick or toss some cash at a team in the late teens to get Moe Harkless. He's "my guy" in this draft that I really want in a 'Cats uniform. If not Harkless, then Quincy Miller or Jeffery Taylor. I feel like with our first pick we'll either hit our big man with AD or Drummond, and then try to fill our wing position with a second pick in the top-20. If we can get away with just cash and retain our 2nd round pick, we can snag a back-up PG with our 2nd rounder.

[DashGlobal]

CP3 was an ELITE player in college. Cant even compare him to MKG, Beal, Drummond. Someone might could make a case for Robinson but they are still not on the same level.

Pretty much its AD and the rest. There isnt much if any fall off after the 2nd pick. So 3 - 30 will be all solid players. Id put Robinson at 2 because he produced in college and is athletic as heck so id say he is clearly the deserving number 2 pick.

If we dont get number 1 pick id def trade for 2 first round picks.

[Chef]

CP3 was an ELITE player in college. Cant even compare him to MKG, Beal, Drummond. Someone might could make a case for Robinson but they are still not on the same level.

Pretty much its AD and the rest. There isnt much if any fall off after the 2nd pick. So 3 - 30 will be all solid players. Id put Robinson at 2 because he produced in college and is athletic as heck so id say he is clearly the deserving number 2 pick.

If we dont get number 1 pick id def trade for 2 first round picks.

if we don't get AD it is my opinion that we absolutely must take a gamble on drummond.

[Pepperz]

Dont trade out. That sounds simple but we should just take the pick that we get and go with the BPA. They dont have to contribute right out the gate but contribute at some point when we finally get that title contender.

[dnbman]

The 4 and 10 would be very compelling, but only if we combined our second round pick, not the 1st next year. I don't see that happening unless somebody really values the second pick.

[WAM9]

How valuable are picks #2-#4?


That is the $1,000,000 question.

[Mustachio]

The 4 and 10 would be very compelling, but only if we combined our second round pick, not the 1st next year. I don't see that happening unless somebody really values the second pick.


100% agree. If we can't have #1 I would love to parlay a high pick into 2 lottery picks but only at the right price. at 4 you can still grab MKG/Beal/Drummond or Robinson . That takes the bust potential out for us and still gives us a back up plan at 10. We would have the potential to walk away from the draft with Thomas Robinson and Jeremy Lamb. Or say Drummond and Barnes or something like that. Seems like what we do every year doesn't it... get hosed in the lottery and swing and miss at two picks. ugh.

[DashGlobal]

if we don't get AD it is my opinion that we absolutely must take a gamble on drummond.

Hell no. To big of a gamble for a dude that didnt even rebound well. This is completely ignoring his lack of post moves. We must come away from this draft with a SOLID player(s).

[DashGlobal]

How valuable are picks #2-#4?


That is the $1,000,000 question.

No one knows. It all depends on how NBA GM's feel about a particular player and their potential / fit with the team.

[anton273]

Gamble on Drummond, i like the sound on that. Have 2 wild cards in our front court biz n drum would be insane depends how he does in scout days... If we lose out on Davis i wouldnt mind another gamble like Biz, we got nothing else to lose

[dav7z]

I really belive if we lose out on AD , Barnes is the safest pick left . And fits team needs the best . Being compared to G Rice most is making out to be a bad thing . But i will take a Rice all day long in this draft if we can;t land AD. Ever one is so big on Beal and i don't know why ? Once measurements and the combine , his stock is going to fall . Hes to small and 2 slow to have a big impact at the pro level.
Drummond is no more than a SMACK thets lazy ? Have no use for lazy. MKG is great another GW , but his shooting is really bad he has a hudge hitch in his jumper. Whitch i fear would never be better than GW . Still thats not a bad thing. Spreading the floor might be more important for us. T Rob is a tweener in pro . I just dont know how productive he can be in pro ball but im guessing between a Hansborough and a Williams . I really don't think his jump shot is good enough to play the three. Size is a issue at the four.

[SWedd523]

They weren't being positive when they compared him to Rice. They said ”all he likes to do is shoot 3s”

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

They weren't being positive when they compared him to Rice. They said ”all he likes to do is shoot 3s”
I think it's more, certain aspects of his game force him to shoot 3's. Which is never a good thing.

[DashGlobal]

We need to try everything in our power to trade down and pick up another first round pick.

[110oldeast]

Trade it down if we can get decent options. As for being compared to Rice, it is not simply just shooting 3s. It's also one dribble midrange shots. Again, this franchise has neglected 3 pt shooting on the wing way too much. With Hendo on one wing, we need a guy who can shoot 3s on the other. Either way, we need to be hitting doubles and not swing for homeruns when we are multiple drafts away.

[Veteran_Picksetter]

David Stern can take his number 2 pick for the Cats and go chuck it. The top 4 behind Davis are pretty much a crap shoot anyway....
Andre freakin' Drummond??
Thomas "I might be just a tweener energy guy" Robinson??
Michael Kidd "My primary talent is playing hard" Gilchrist??

Shoot, trade down for 2 pieces in the top 13 who could easily be just as good as those guys. I don't give rip right now.....

Tomorrow I might wake up and be thinking more clearly.....