View Full Version : Cho building Bobcats like the Thunder
iowabobcat
05-31-2012, 09:44 PM
I see some similarities in the way that Cho is building the Bobcats the same way he helped build the Thunder. With drafting Kemba Walker last year he has a point guard who is somewhat similar to Westbrook in the sense that they are both better known for their scoring rather than passing and would probably be better suited as a 2 guard, but obviously with Kemba's size he cant really play the 2. Also by drafting Bismack Biyombo he has a similar player to Ibaka they both can be impact players defensively but are raw offensively.
With the #2 pick this year I think unless Thomas Robinson is a legit 6'10 and dominates in everything the bobcats see him do coming to the draft they should draft Harrison Barnes. Barnes has the potential to be a Durant type player. Barnes already has a better established offensive game then MKG and while Beal is better 3pt shooter, Barnes has a better all around game than Beal. Hopefully we can get lucky in the draft and have John Jenkins fall to us in the 2nd round or possibly trade into 1st to get him and he could be our Harden.
Then in next years draft hopefully we can land a big man in Nerlens Noel, Cody Zeller, or even Isaiah Austin, Steven Adams (depending how their freshman season go). Maybe I am just an optimistic person but I don't think losing out on Anthony Davis is the end of the world and the future in Charlotte is very bright!
BlockParty
05-31-2012, 09:47 PM
Nice alias, welcome to BCP
Cho knows Basketball
I see some similarities in the way that Cho is building the Bobcats the same way he helped build the Thunder. With drafting Kemba Walker last year he has a point guard who is somewhat similar to Westbrook in the sense that they are both better known for their scoring rather than passing and would probably be better suited as a 2 guard, but obviously with Kemba's size he cant really play the 2. Also by drafting Bismack Biyombo he has a similar player to Ibaka they both can be impact players defensively but are raw offensively.
With the #2 pick this year I think unless Thomas Robinson is a legit 6'10 and dominates in everything the bobcats see him do coming to the draft they should draft Harrison Barnes. Barnes has the potential to be a Durant type player. Barnes already has a better established offensive game then MKG and while Beal is better 3pt shooter, Barnes has a better all around game than Beal. Hopefully we can get lucky in the draft and have John Jenkins fall to us in the 2nd round or possibly trade into 1st to get him and he could be our Harden.
Then in next years draft hopefully we can land a big man in Nerlens Noel, Cody Zeller, or even Isaiah Austin, Steven Adams (depending how their freshman season go). Maybe I am just an optimistic person but I don't think losing out on Anthony Davis is the end of the world and the future in Charlotte is very bright!
sorry can't let this slide. please don't take this as a poor reflection of this site, with this being your first post, but kemba isn't even a homeless man's version of westbrook and on barnes's best day he can't be half of what durant is on a bad day. if cho is trying to copy okc he is at best recreating a third rate version.
CharlotteHornets
05-31-2012, 09:59 PM
I see some similarities in the way that Cho is building the Bobcats the same way he helped build the Thunder. With drafting Kemba Walker last year he has a point guard who is somewhat similar to Westbrook in the sense that they are both better known for their scoring rather than passing and would probably be better suited as a 2 guard, but obviously with Kemba's size he cant really play the 2. Also by drafting Bismack Biyombo he has a similar player to Ibaka they both can be impact players defensively but are raw offensively.
With the #2 pick this year I think unless Thomas Robinson is a legit 6'10 and dominates in everything the bobcats see him do coming to the draft they should draft Harrison Barnes. Barnes has the potential to be a Durant type player. Barnes already has a better established offensive game then MKG and while Beal is better 3pt shooter, Barnes has a better all around game than Beal. Hopefully we can get lucky in the draft and have John Jenkins fall to us in the 2nd round or possibly trade into 1st to get him and he could be our Harden.
Then in next years draft hopefully we can land a big man in Nerlens Noel, Cody Zeller, or even Isaiah Austin, Steven Adams (depending how their freshman season go). Maybe I am just an optimistic person but I don't think losing out on Anthony Davis is the end of the world and the future in Charlotte is very bright!
I agree with you on drafting a SF if Thomas Robinson does not measure in at 6'10 - I just see it being difficult to draft Barnes at #2 - However, despite all of the Barnes bashing I think with his work ethic and M.J. spending some time with him he may be able to develop a killer instinct and some real confidence. If Barnes plays with confidence he could be elite...I am just not sure he will develop that confidence.
iowabobcat
05-31-2012, 10:26 PM
I agree with you on drafting a SF if Thomas Robinson does not measure in at 6'10 - I just see it being difficult to draft Barnes at #2 - However, despite all of the Barnes bashing I think with his work ethic and M.J. spending some time with him he may be able to develop a killer instinct and some real confidence. If Barnes plays with confidence he could be elite...I am just not sure he will develop that confidence.
I like Barnes work ethic and with MJ being able to to mentor him and hopefully develop some confidence and a killer instinct he could become a very dangerous player in the NBA. I have my doubts on Barnes but I think he is the one we need to take a risk on. I really don't think we should draft MKG because we need offense ASAP and if we draft Beal I think we would need to trade Gerald Henderson which doesn't really help in rebuilding even though we could get a 1st rounder for him and possibly get Royce White.
SJackson1
05-31-2012, 11:11 PM
there is no doubt that in 3 years time we will have a strong roster and the likes of Biyombo, Walker, Hendo and the draft pick will be solid players.
Wolfpackbobcat
05-31-2012, 11:48 PM
Barnes is a 5-10 pick. Not top 3. And MJ isnt going to mentor anyone. MJ's job is not to mentor. He is not a coach. He is the owner and needs to focus on that aspect, and I believe he will. At least I hope so.
I like Barnes work ethic and with MJ being able to to mentor him and hopefully develop some confidence and a killer instinct he could become a very dangerous player in the NBA. I have my doubts on Barnes but I think he is the one we need to take a risk on. I really don't think we should draft MKG because we need offense ASAP and if we draft Beal I think we would need to trade Gerald Henderson which doesn't really help in rebuilding even though we could get a 1st rounder for him and possibly get Royce White.
dnbman
05-31-2012, 11:54 PM
And MJ isnt going to mentor anyone. MJ's job is not to mentor. He is not a coach. He is the owner and needs to focus on that aspect, and I believe he will. At least I hope so.
I agree, sadly. I think he could be a good mentor and has been in cases like Hendo. However, MJ has had a checkered past of helping young guys. Maybe his age has helped him.
I don't necessarily think he has to keep a distance from the team. If the right situation was there for a relationship, I don't have a problem with MJ being a mentor.
DCAWFAN
06-01-2012, 12:31 AM
While barnes may not be the most talented player coming out, throughout the year you saw glimpses of what he can be and do. His somewhat selfish playing style and ability to create shots fits the pro style much more than it ever would the college style of basketball. He has the playing style to become a possible franchise face some day. Also he grew up watching Jordan Bulls game his mom taped for him. He's sold to Jordan and his style, and its always good to have players who are gonna buy into the program. I believe he makes a solid chase for 2nd pick and fits the bobcats very well.
Jordan wasn't half of what he was in the nba in college either.
Admin feel free to move my post into the new thread. Thanks
dav7z
06-01-2012, 12:56 AM
First i would like to say welcome you to Bobcatsplanet. Someone said Cho is doing a third rate job in drafting talant . I say its way to early to tell Walker and Smack was both put right into the fire without any decent vetran leadership. Walker might not be a Westbrook but its to early to even say third rate. With what those kids went through, No training camp ,no practice, no realtime to adjust . We talking teenagers trying to lead the team . Those two did as well if not better than what was expected. Barnes may not be a number 2 pick . But i agree he meats team needs better than any of the other picks . Trading down would be perfect if we could land another pick.
First i would like to say welcome you to Bobcatsplanet. Someone said Cho is doing a third rate job in drafting talant . I say its way to early to tell Walker and Smack was both put right into the fire without any decent vetran leadership. Walker might not be a Westbrook but its to early to even say third rate. With what those kids went through, No training camp ,no practice, no realtime to adjust . We talking teenagers trying to lead the team . Those two did as well if not better than what was expected. Barnes may not be a number 2 pick . But i agree he meats team needs better than any of the other picks . Trading down would be perfect if we could land another pick.
i didn't say cho was doing a third rate job, i said compared to westbrook and durant as a model walker and barnes would be below third rate. it is not too early to say that kemba is third rate to westbrook. he isn't half the athlete that westbrook is. on top of that, westbrook is a dead eye from 16 feet in while kemba was a terrible shooter last year. yes he can improve, but he has so much to improve to even be in a dishonest discussion with westbrook.
DUnit24
06-01-2012, 07:56 AM
I absolutely loved the draft picks last year. Kemba hasnt shown what he can do yet, but he will. Biyombo is just a beast. 19 yrs old and holding his own out there.
I agree though regarding Cho. Thats why their really is no pressure(for me atleast) for the Bobcats to draft a "star" in this draft. Just get a very good player. Id go with Barnes or MKG, and then next season we would get Noel or Muhammad. THen sign a good free agent based on need.
Kemba
Muhammad
MKG
FREE AGENT PF
Biyombo
OR
Kemba
FREE AGENT SG
MKG/Barnes
Biyombo and Noel down low(SICK!!!)
CHo knows what he is doing.
DUnit24
06-01-2012, 07:57 AM
i didn't say cho was doing a third rate job, i said compared to westbrook and durant as a model walker and barnes would be below third rate. it is not too early to say that kemba is third rate to westbrook. he isn't half the athlete that westbrook is. on top of that, westbrook is a dead eye from 16 feet in while kemba was a terrible shooter last year. yes he can improve, but he has so much to improve to even be in a dishonest discussion with westbrook.
How was Westbrook in his first yr in the league?
superb1
06-01-2012, 08:03 AM
I think we can follow OKC's model of building thru the draft but getting player for player comparison would be hard to do and unfair to the players, the team and us. You are asking Walker and Bismack to be compared to all-stars. I would love for them to be there but we should not draft like they draft, drafting a SF to compare to Durant would be insane. If Barnes is that player, fine. But we still should draft BPA. There are no Durants on the horizon. And our version of the model maybe slightly different with all-stars being in different positions. I think trying to follow their model to the T is a little idiotic for us to do.
How was Westbrook in his first yr in the league?
a much better athlete than kemba. westbrook may be the most athletic player in the league. my point is it is unfair to kemba to compare him to westbrook they are very different players.
spectre
06-01-2012, 08:10 AM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=walkeke02&y1=2012&p2=westbru01&y2=2009
Course Kemba didn't have Durant taking pressure off of him. That being said Westbrook is bigger, which IMO gives him a leg up on Kemba playing the way both of them do.
iowabobcat
06-01-2012, 10:17 AM
I think we can follow OKC's model of building thru the draft but getting player for player comparison would be hard to do and unfair to the players, the team and us. You are asking Walker and Bismack to be compared to all-stars. I would love for them to be there but we should not draft like they draft, drafting a SF to compare to Durant would be insane. If Barnes is that player, fine. But we still should draft BPA. There are no Durants on the horizon. And our version of the model maybe slightly different with all-stars being in different positions. I think trying to follow their model to the T is a little idiotic for us to do.
I probably should have done a better job explaining myself and maybe take a different approach as to why I think he is building this team like the thunder. I'm not really comparing the players I am more comparing what they bring to their teams. Kemba and Westbrook both are better known for their scoring rather than passers, I know Kemba will never average what Westbrook is doing right now but I can see him down the road being somebody that could average about 17ppg/7apg/5rbp. Bismack and Ibaka are similar in the sense that they are both shot blockers who can be difference makers defending down low (obviously BB has work to do but he has shown glimpses). If we do draft Harrison Barnes he could be become our #1 scoring option maybe not in year 1 but by his 2nd year I think he should be. Barnes is somebody that can score from just about anywhere and he can also play some good defense. In my earlier post I am comparing him to Durant in the sense that they are both SF that can be teams #1 scoring option and score anywhere and both play good D. Talent wise Barnes will probably never put up the numbers in a season that Durant is doing right now. I think a more realistic goal for Barnes down the road would be around 22ppg/6rpg/3apg. By comparing John Jenkins and Harden I am comparing them as Jenkins could be our 6th man that can come off the bench and be a great scorer. Obviously Harden is very good at driving and finishing or drawing the foul which Jenkins can't do or atleast I don't think he can.
I don't think Cho is building through the draft by player for player comparisons, I think he knows what type of player he is looking for in each position and that is why they are somewhat similar.
Let's Go Cats 218
06-01-2012, 10:34 AM
The Bobcats need a legit low-post presence. Drummond could be that guy. If we want to roll the dice and hope that we get Noel next year, we can do that, but we all know that we've never been lucky. Kemba is lightning quick, and I think he could blossom into a real good PG at this level if we get DJ out of his way. Granted, we HAVE to get a return on our investment in DJ...so we have to get something for him and not just let him walk like we do everyone else.
I don't know how sold I am on Mags...we need to upgrade at the 3. I also don't know how sold I am on the fact that Gerald Henderson is a legit starting 2-guard in the NBA. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely want him in a Bobcats uniform and getting good minutes, but I think we need to upgrade at the 2.
Biyombo, if he can play PF like Ibaka, will be a real cornerstone of this team. We need a big fella to go alongside him and let Bismack come and block shots off help defense. Drummond fits that description right now.
iowabobcat
06-01-2012, 11:22 AM
The Bobcats need a legit low-post presence. Drummond could be that guy. If we want to roll the dice and hope that we get Noel next year, we can do that, but we all know that we've never been lucky. Kemba is lightning quick, and I think he could blossom into a real good PG at this level if we get DJ out of his way. Granted, we HAVE to get a return on our investment in DJ...so we have to get something for him and not just let him walk like we do everyone else.
I don't know how sold I am on Mags...we need to upgrade at the 3. I also don't know how sold I am on the fact that Gerald Henderson is a legit starting 2-guard in the NBA. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely want him in a Bobcats uniform and getting good minutes, but I think we need to upgrade at the 2.
Biyombo, if he can play PF like Ibaka, will be a real cornerstone of this team. We need a big fella to go alongside him and let Bismack come and block shots off help defense. Drummond fits that description right now.
I agree that we really do need a legit low-post presence to be able to score down low but I think Drummond is way to big of a risk. He could be anything from the next Amare to the next Kwame, he did show enough promise to me in his 1 year in college to show me that he is worth the risk at #2. I know he has lost 20 pounds already and is working hard to be NBA ready but given all of our bad draft choices I don't think we can take a big risk on him and hope he pans out to be the player that we hope he can become. Taking a very early look at next years draft already there should be two good big men in that class with Cody Zeller and Nerlens Noel. Also there has the potential to be two more bigs in Isaiah Austin and Steven Adams (both incoming freshman). I think there will be more big men to choose from then scorers in next years draft. Next year Shabazz Muhammad is looking like the next can't miss prospect and the early favorite for #1 pick so we can't count on getting him because we did that with AD and we all know how that worked out. So if we draft Barnes this year and a big next our lineup after the 2013 draft could look like-
Walker
Henderson
Barnes
Biyombo
Zeller/Noel
cltblkhscoach
06-01-2012, 11:27 AM
I was looking at Basketball Reference just to see how the roster transitioned from when Cho came to the Sonics to before he left the Thunder. Any proven commodity was dealt to get picks or free up cap space, of course we all know that. So what are the proven commodities on the Charlotte Bobcats?
DJ
Hendo
Maggette
Reggie Williams?
We all know there isn't much of a market for DJ outside of a sign and trade deal. Maggette is valuable because he is expiring. Reggie Williams? Maybe could be had for a second round pick, plus he is a small expiring as well. The wildcard here is Hendo, still on his rookie deal, and could definitely be worth a mid-late 1st round pick easily. If anyone noticed, Cho mentioned Kemba, Bismack, and Mullens on the draft lottery show. To me, that was saying outside of those three, the rest of our roster is available. I'd definitely look for one of these four guys to be moved before or on draft night. Why? Because, the only person left from the roster before Kevin Durant joined the Sonics/Thunder is Nick Collison. EVERYONE else was gone in a huge reboot of that franchise. So I'm looking for a LOT of trade talk, and a long night at the draft party from the arena on June 30th.
SJackson1
06-01-2012, 11:48 AM
Walker
Henderson
Maggette
Robinson
Biyombo
i would take this starting line up next season but theese starters need to be playing 30 minutes plus
superb1
06-01-2012, 12:44 PM
I was looking at Basketball Reference just to see how the roster transitioned from when Cho came to the Sonics to before he left the Thunder. Any proven commodity was dealt to get picks or free up cap space, of course we all know that. So what are the proven commodities on the Charlotte Bobcats?
DJ
Hendo
Maggette
Reggie Williams?
We all know there isn't much of a market for DJ outside of a sign and trade deal. Maggette is valuable because he is expiring. Reggie Williams? Maybe could be had for a second round pick, plus he is a small expiring as well. The wildcard here is Hendo, still on his rookie deal, and could definitely be worth a mid-late 1st round pick easily. If anyone noticed, Cho mentioned Kemba, Bismack, and Mullens on the draft lottery show. To me, that was saying outside of those three, the rest of our roster is available. I'd definitely look for one of these four guys to be moved before or on draft night. Why? Because, the only person left from the roster before Kevin Durant joined the Sonics/Thunder is Nick Collison. EVERYONE else was gone in a huge reboot of that franchise. So I'm looking for a LOT of trade talk, and a long night at the draft party from the arena on June 30th.
thanks for that info, I knew we had to clean house but I didn't know how deep.
Plowright
06-01-2012, 01:50 PM
I see what your saying and obviously we are following the OKC model. However, I think there is a difference. You over players in general, and like you said you are an optimist so thats fair enough. But in my opinion Barnes will never reach Durant or anything near, maybe danny granger at best. Harden was a lottery pick and Jenkins is a 2nd rounder, there really is no comparison. Finally Kemba has similar mentality to Westbrook you are correct, I think the book is open on how that last one might play out
iowabobcat
06-01-2012, 02:07 PM
Didn't realize that Harden was the #3 pick in the 09 draft thought he was late first rounder, your correct there is no comparison with him and Jenkins. I saw that Chad Ford said that Cleveland could possibly want to move up to the #2 and give up their #4 and #24 for it. With the #4 we could still land Barnes and with the #24 maybe we could get Doron Lamb. We could get shooters in this draft and worry about picking up a big man in next years draft where there should be a few to choose from.
Pepperz
06-01-2012, 02:57 PM
He's not building this team like the Thunder in that he is trying to find people in comparison with but more so that every player can bring something to the table. Everybody else needs to contribute. Once he has his 3 stars of the team, everybody else needs to fit in around those guys.
DUnit24
06-01-2012, 03:13 PM
If Cavs want the 2nd pick for the 4th and 24th, Id be thrilled.
4th overall - (SF) Harrison Barnes
24th overall - (PF/SF) - Royce White
31st overall - (PG/SG) - Tony Wroten
Kemba Walker - Tony Wroten
Gerald Henderson - Reggie Williams
Harrison Barnes - Corey Maggette
Royce White - Tyrus Thomas
Bismack Biyombo - Byron Mullens
I would love this draft.
SWedd523
06-01-2012, 03:14 PM
4 is still too high for Barnes
iowabobcat
06-01-2012, 03:43 PM
Another possibility from Chad Ford was that the Trail Blazers could package their #6 and #11 for the #2 pick. At #6 Barnes could still be available but I doubt it so maybe we could go with Jeremy Lamb or possibly Beal fall to us, then at #11 take a chance on Perry Jones or Tyler Zeller. If we did get Barnes at #6 there would be no reason to draft Jones and maybe we could go after Austin Rivers if he shows that he can play well as a SG.
DUnit24
06-01-2012, 03:50 PM
4 is still too high for Barnes
Its really not. Its about right for him. He's going to be a very good NBA player.
adam187
06-01-2012, 03:51 PM
if kemba equals anyone from the thunder's drafting it would be jeff green.
that said, i'm hoping he comes back and prove me wrong with a new coach, off season to work, and training camp. you can do it lil guy.
SWedd523
06-01-2012, 03:58 PM
Its really not. Its about right for him. He's going to be a very good NBA role player.
fixed for accuracy
DUnit24
06-01-2012, 05:20 PM
LOL okay. I will continue to laugh at people who say that about Barnes.
Must be a UNC hate type of thing. I watched him play in HS and at UNC a ton. He will be a hell of an NBA player.
SWedd523
06-01-2012, 06:06 PM
Sounds like more of am issue with you being a Barnes homer than anything else. I'm definitely not a UNC hater, but i'm definitely being honest.
I saw every game Barnes played in Tar Heel blue and saw how badly he struggled before and after Marshall was manning the point. He's going to be a nice floor spacing role player... Younger Shane Battier.
But he hasn't shown anything at all to make you believe he could be a first or second option on a good team. You'd have to be a homer or a bad talent evaluator to think otherwise.
SJackson1
06-01-2012, 06:15 PM
the only way is up from last season !
DUnit24
06-01-2012, 06:24 PM
Young Battier?????????????????????????????????
lol agree to disagree.
SWedd523
06-01-2012, 06:47 PM
lol okay
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
DCAWFAN
06-01-2012, 06:48 PM
Sounds like more of am issue with you being a Barnes homer than anything else. I'm definitely not a UNC hater, but i'm definitely being honest.
I saw every game Barnes played in Tar Heel blue and saw how badly he struggled before and after Marshall was manning the point. He's going to be a nice floor spacing role player... Younger Shane Battier.
But he hasn't shown anything at all to make you believe he could be a first or second option on a good team. You'd have to be a homer or a bad talent evaluator to think otherwise.
Unc fan but a not a homer here. You say barnes is a role player and needed marshall. I think it was pure laziness that can be fixed with summer league and training.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AJFWX-yLgY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5dVMCRc1rg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9QD-18ad9s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJjy8x_uM3c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYLvo7ik5js&feature=fvwrel
he may not show all the time and gotten a little lazy but when he wants he can be the most dominant and clutch player on the floor.
SJackson1
06-01-2012, 06:55 PM
how tall is Barnes ?
DUnit24
06-01-2012, 07:17 PM
Barnes is 6-8.
Many forget how great he was the last half of his frosh season. Rumors were that he was hurting late last season. Regardless, Barnes is very raw but what I see in him is a tremendous upside. Sure he hasnt shown much to warrant being called a frachise player, but good gracious, the young man has a ton of talent. His role model is Jordan. His middle name is Jordan. He would be like a dang sponge around MJ.
I just think Barnes + MJ + a team he could grow without pressure = perfect situation for him and us.
DCAWFAN
06-01-2012, 07:19 PM
6'8 223 lbs and room to grow. Comparison build wise lebron is 6'8 250 lbs. not saying same kind of player by any stretch of the imagination but same size. If we could work it to get a combination of him and t rob in the draft that could be a lethal combination. You say without marshall he couldn't do much. But without marshall Unc had no real pg to even help at all.
ammofan
06-01-2012, 08:09 PM
Im not a fan of Barnes. I called him average LAST year and this year he lived up to what I said.
BUT....I think he could be turned into a good player. Frankly, I don't feel he has a great motor. If he went all out every night he could average 20 ppg. He gets lazy. I don't know why that would change in the NBA tho.
I'm not really against having Barnes on this team...but I would expect him to be a great NBA player the way he is now.
After 3 straight years of top 4 picks will see the kind of job Cho does, this is year 1 of 3.
spectre
06-01-2012, 08:29 PM
he may not show all the time and gotten a little lazy but when he wants he can be the most dominant and clutch player on the floor.
As most know here I don't watch college ball...but that above turns me off bigtime, and esp. with a high pick.
SWedd523
06-01-2012, 09:26 PM
I just think Barnes + MJ + a team he could grow without pressure = perfect situation for him and us.
Unfortunately he would have a ton of pressure on his shoulders.
He would have to do well to front of the greatest Tar Heel of all time
He would have to do well for the Carolina fans
He would have to show he belongs as a top 5 player
He would have to create for himself because Kemba is nothing at all like Marshall
He would have to be the #1 option.
The perfect situation for him is a place where he can play off the ball and grow into his role because he'd be much more successful as a complimentary player than the face of a franchise. He'd be better suited in Washington (off Wall), Cleveland (off Kyrie), Sacramento (off Cousins), or the Blazers (off Aldridge), or literally just about any other top 10 team because they already have their alpha male.
I want Barnes to succeed. I want him to be one of the Tar Heels who actually does well in the league. I want him to shut up all of the critics who won't get off his case. But, to me, he's a player you pick in year 2 or 3 of the rebuild, after you get your star.
CatNation1
06-01-2012, 09:39 PM
What I don't get is the people that are like "hurr durr MJ gonna pick Barnes obviously!! MJ PICK!!" its moronic. lol if we draft a raw potential guy "lol MJ didnt learn from Kwame har har!!" if we pick a guy that was good in college "LOL its like Morrison again hurr!" if we picked Barnes its "Lol MJ picking the Tarheel whaddya know!" as if we've ever even brought in Tar Heels since he's been here. it makes me rage so much but theres nothing you can do.
SJackson1
06-01-2012, 09:41 PM
weve got a young roster and they will only get better especially the likes of Walker, Biyombo, Mullens and Hendo
cltblkhscoach
06-01-2012, 11:02 PM
I took this from the Observer article they did with Cho and Higgins in February. We need to take Cho's quote here and apply it to these draft prospects:
Cho: I talk about the four C's as a guideline (for what you want): Guys who compete, guys with character, guys who have consistency and guys who cover (play both ends of the floor).
And then there are four S's (that you don't want). Maybe you can have one of these, but: Guys who are slow, guys who are soft, guys who are stupid or guys who are selfish.
Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/02/25/3045822/transcript-of-observer-interview.html#storylink=misearch#storylink=cpy
SJackson1
06-01-2012, 11:06 PM
I took this from the Observer article they did with Cho and Higgins in February. We need to take Cho's quote here and apply it to these draft prospects:
Cho: I talk about the four C's as a guideline (for what you want): Guys who compete, guys with character, guys who have consistency and guys who cover (play both ends of the floor).
And then there are four S's (that you don't want). Maybe you can have one of these, but: Guys who are slow, guys who are soft, guys who are stupid or guys who are selfish.
Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/02/25/3045822/transcript-of-observer-interview.html#storylink=misearch#storylink=cpy
yes, there has been a definite change over the last year and it all started with the Gerald Wallace trade. There is no doubt it will take time for this roster to grow but at some point in time we will have a very strong team !
DUnit24
06-01-2012, 11:22 PM
We had a horrible season. Worst ever in the NBA and we are the laughing stock of the NBA right now. Outsiders look at our situation and think we have no hope and will never be good again and will probably be in a new city soon.
I think we are going to surprise a lot of people in these next few years...ill just leave it at that.
SJackson1
06-01-2012, 11:26 PM
We had a horrible season. Worst ever in the NBA and we are the laughing stock of the NBA right now. Outsiders look at our situation and think we have no hope and will never be good again and will probably be in a new city soon.
I think we are going to surprise a lot of people in these next few years...ill just leave it at that.
we won't be any worse next season and i think we will be a force to be reckoned with in 3 seasons time.
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