RUMOR: #2 Pick Being Offered For Rudy Gay

[ammofan]

http://www.iamagm.com/news/2012/06/07/rudy.gay.definitely.trading.block.rumor.bobcats.of fering.2.overall.pick

Looks like we MIGHT be offering the #2 pick for Rudy Gay. I don't know how I feel about this. I like Gay as a player but if we want a SF, I'd rather take MKG.

What do you guys think about this?

[SJackson1]

i think i would take a gamable on MKG to be honest becasue i think his ceiling is through the roof to be honest. I mean people are saying Gerald wallace at worst which is pretty good !

[Proudiddy]

I would love it, but it would seem to go against our newly adopted philosophy of strictly building through the draft... Then again, OKC did do a few trades after drafting well.

I don't see MKG becoming Rudy Gay. I doubt Beal does either. Now, if Beal is a true Ray Allen clone, then we should stay and take him... Otherwise, I'd give them Maggs back and swap picks.

[Black]

Somewhat intriguing, but like the article says, it would be a very complicated trade.

I would definitely want their pick, and probably a third team involved to get some more moving parts.

[KembaSlice]

What do you guys see the rest of the trade looking like? There's no way it's just #2 for Gay straight up.

[SJackson1]

What do you guys see the rest of the trade looking like? There's no way it's just #2 for Gay straight up.

DJA to the Hornets for their 10th ?

[superb1]

I think Maggette would have to be included somehow or moved separately. I read the Warriors were willing to trade drafts for a SF.

[KembaSlice]

We'd have to get more than just Gay in this deal. Otherwise it's a complete steal for Memphis. He not worth a #2 pick alone.

[spectre]

16,460532
17,888,932
19,317,326

No frigging way.

Hopefully we're just doing "due diligence".

[CharlotteHornets]

I would make that trade for Rudy Gay. He will only be 26 years old entering next season and in the prime of his career for over the next 5-7 seasons. He is a guaranteed 20ppg & 6 reb. He is also an elite athlete and high charachter guy.

If we can trade our #2 Pick and Maggette's expiring contract for Rudy Gay and the 25th pick from Memphis I think I would definitely make that deal.

Have a roster that looks like:

Kemba Walker/Doron Lamb
Gerald Henderson/Reggie Williams
Rudy Gay/Derrick Brown
Antawn Jamison/Byron Mullens/Tyrus Thomas
Bismack Biyombo/Fab Melo (25th Pick)

I think that team would be entertaining to watch next season but still bad enough to where the Bobcats would have a Top 5 pick in 2013...

[CharlotteHornets]

16,460532
17,888,932
19,317,326

No frigging way.

Hopefully we're just doing "due diligence".

that is a little bit of a HIGH price...maybe if they throw in Marc Gasol and we throw in Tyrus Thomas....lol

[SJackson1]

hopefully we make the right decision in this draft becasue weve been poor in other drafts

[KembaSlice]

Think they'd include OJ Mayo as a sign and trade in the deal?

[SJackson1]

i would want another player to be honest in exchange for our 2nd pick

[superb1]

I think the question would be... Are we ready to win, getting Rudy would move us quicker thru rebuilding.

[SJackson1]

I think the question would be... Are we ready to win, getting Rudy would move us quicker thru rebuilding.

another question is could Robinson, MKG, Beal, Barnes be better than Gay at 26 ?

[Black]

EDIT: He's just paid too much. I hope we don't take him on.

[superb1]

EDIT: He's just paid too much. I hope we don't take him on.

I would love to get him but that price tag concerns me. He is not worthy mortgage our plan for.

[dnbman]

I'd much rather keep the pick and roll the dice on a prospect. Gay isn't so good that we couldn't do just as well for a lot less money.

[WAM9]

I like Gay and think he would be a great fit here but just not for that kind of money. That contract is the deal breaker for me.

[Scottley Crue]

Wouldn't be surprised if this came from Memphis to help trump up more of a market for Rudy. I've seen that the Warriors and Raptors are supposedly throwing their picks at Memphis for him as well, so I'd bet the Grizz are just trying to drum up business.

[dnbman]

I like Gay and think he would be a great fit here but just not for that kind of money. That contract is the deal breaker for me.

Absolutely. Massive contract that still doesn't give us a an absolute blue chip talent.

Run away.

[KembaSlice]

I'd rather be patient and let Cho build this team in the draft and smart FA signings. We aren't going to be good anytime soon, there's no point is bringing another huge contract right now. Draft MKG, sign some cheap decent players (maybe Jamison) and hope for Shabazz or Noel next year in the draft. All while getting rid of the bad contracts. In 2 years we could have some young talent and money to use in FA in order to help them.

[Plowright]

Too much money over too many years for me. I would rather have MKG on a rookie contract, sure his production might not be as good but his value would be more

[GoBobs]

Toughness is one of the most important traits a guy can have in the playoffs. Gay doesn't have it. Blake Griffin doesn't seem to want any part of playoff basketball either. MKG plays like a guy who enjoys contact, passing on him would be a huge mistake. Trying to be to good to soon is what got us on the treadmill in the first place.

[Mustachio]

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No thanks, just feels like getting Gerald Wallace for twice the contract. Mediocrity here we come! (again)

[SWedd523]

16,460532
17,888,932
19,317,326

No frigging way.

Hopefully we're just doing "due diligence".
Yep. Sounds like a lot of the people that are fans of this trade either have no idea how the cap work, or are strictly thinking in terms of 2K12. This is a horrible trade even if Gay was on a normal contract.

Think they'd include OJ Mayo as a sign and trade in the deal?
Not possible.

[mrtarheel]

Just the kind of trade I thought we would be incline to do. Take on someones big contract to get better. This isn't that bad of a trade, if we could move TT, Diop and #2 for there pick, Gay and Speights that would be great. Then we either help GSW out with Phila in a trade that nets us their #7 while sending out Maggs. We want a star and that he is. Everyone else would be on rookie contracts or small salaries so it works. I could also see us doing something along the lines of Ariza and the #10 from NOH.

[BlockParty]

I'd be ok with it, if it included taking Tyrus, Gana and our #2 pick...For Gay and a second round pick.

Put they don't need our garbage, and Gay is just too expensive for the pick by itself.

[anton273]

Rudy is just shy of 20ppg n 6 rebounds ... What we expecting MKG will contribute?

He would be worth it if that contract wasn't so bad... Great shooter and exciting would be great but not superstar status rather gamble on draft and try find it there

[Scrapper1]

Rudy is just shy of 20ppg n 6 rebounds ... What we expecting MKG will contribute?

He would be worth it if that contract wasn't so bad... Great shooter and exciting would be great but not superstar status rather gamble on draft and try find it there

Imagine if the Thunder would have traded their #2 pick in 2007.. Rudy Gay is overpaid, at his ceiling, inconsistent and injury prone. I guarantee MJ wont do it.. he wants MKG. Rudy is no cornerstone player..maybe MKG is..i believe so.

[Black]

Imagine if the Thunder would have traded their #2 pick in 2007.. Rudy Gay is overpaid, at his ceiling, inconsistent and injury prone. I guarantee MJ wont do it.. he wants MKG. Rudy is no cornerstone player..maybe MKG is..i believe so.

It's amazing how much he's paid. Gerald Wallace will be lucky to get half of what Gay is making.

[Scrapper1]

It's amazing how much he's paid. Gerald Wallace will be lucky to get half of what Gay is making.

Thats true.. love Gerald Wallace. But you know what? If MJ brings back that Hornets logo, the state of North Carolina will rally behind that team regardless.. and im from Chicago and i know that.

[tondi]

Gay is paid superstar money even though he is not a superstar. No way I want to trade the second pick for him straight up. Now if we could dump TT and Diop while also picking up their first round pick and maybe their first next year then I am listening. That would give us a good, not great, still young player along with the guy we pick with their pick this year. We would also conceivably have 3 1st rounders next year which would give us great flexibility while also jettisoning our worst 2 contracts and making us instant players in free agency this offseason.

Doubt they would do it but if so I have to consider pulling the trigger.

[skratch]

i would if we were also getting a pick N.O, were gonna be very awful again next year and it gotta be killing fan support, Gay would help

[Black]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
The Charlotte Bobcats are shopping the second overall pick, according to multiple sources.

Just adding this here until another substantial rumor comes up.

[ammofan]

Rudy is just shy of 20ppg n 6 rebounds ... What we expecting MKG will contribute?

He would be worth it if that contract wasn't so bad... Great shooter and exciting would be great but not superstar status rather gamble on draft and try find it there

I think MKG will be a much better team leader than Gay

[SJackson1]

I think MKG will be a much better team leader than Gay


i agree with you mate, i think in 4/5 years time MKG will be a beast player and he will only be 23 !!

[Hormel]

I think we are blowing smoke quite a bit. I bet the front office is perfectly happy with just keeping the #2 pick, but the fact that we are shopping it in so many different directions maybe someone makes us an offer we just can't refuse

[ammofan]

I think we are blowing smoke quite a bit. I bet the front office is perfectly happy with just keeping the #2 pick, but the fact that we are shopping it in so many different directions maybe someone makes us an offer we just can't refuse

Of course. We're not ACTIVELY looking to trade the pick. We're just looking at all of our options.

[BETCATS]

He is exactly what this franchise needs. Pending we also dump Tyrus/Maggette on them and get a first in return I'd be ecstatic. If we also deal DJ for a pick on draft night we could be giving the franchise a major face lift that would excite people.

The contract is the only deal breaker. MGK isn't. He'd be lucky to have a career similar to Rudy's. New doesn't mean better. Rudy earned that giant payday from Memphis, but the question is does that value translate here?

[superb1]

Of course. We're not ACTIVELY looking to trade the pick. We're just looking at all of our options.

still this is what frightens me. I hope the days of stupid trades are over. If they do trade the #2 or trade for Rudy, it better be worth our while.

[dnbman]

Of course. We're not ACTIVELY looking to trade the pick. We're just looking at all of our options.

Exactly. I'd be worried if the FO wasn't doing due diligence in seeing what the 2nd pick could get, including other picks.

[McBeastie]

It'll be interesting to see the kinds of packages that get thrown at us. I'm sure we'll bring both in for a look at some point, but Cho still hasn't tipped his hand in regards to T-Rob/MKG with the 2nd pick; so that kind of uncertainty might drive up competition for the pick since teams want to be sure they won't miss the guy they love.

[bes628]

Fuck yes...Rudy Gay > T.Rob and MKG.

[Mustachio]

Fuck yes...Rudy Gay > T.Rob and MKG.

Maybe. But he is definitely paid about 50 million more than both of them combined. In no way worth it.

[BlockParty]

Maybe. But he is definitely paid about 50 million more than both of them combined. In no way worth it.

^^^This

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[bes628]

Maybe. But he is definitely paid about 50 million more than both of them combined. In no way worth it.

Maybe..but I think He's on the verge of superstardom .

[Black]

Maybe..but I think He's on the verge of superstardom .

I think he could be also, but that's a huge gamble.

[Bucko]

This seems like a trade that would take us in a different direction than what the "plan" is...or at least what I think the plan is. The salary is too big, and Memphis isn't going to take what basically would be a couple of random second or third level players for him anyway.

If we made this trade, I'd be interested in hearing both teams' reasoning for it, because I can't see any real reason for either team to do it on my own.

[SJackson1]

how do you know what TRob's ceiling is ? i think we shouldn't trade this pick unless we are 100% sure we benefit from the deal

[dnbman]

This seems like a trade that would take us in a different direction than what the "plan" is...or at least what I think the plan is. The salary is too big, and Memphis isn't going to take what basically would be a couple of random second or third level players for him anyway.

If we made this trade, I'd be interested in hearing both teams' reasoning for it, because I can't see any real reason for either team to do it on my own.

For Memphis, it would be to significantly reduce salary while replacing Gay with a quality piece. For Charlotte it would be to get a known quantity, albeit expensive one, to build around.

Still, I agree that this doesn't seem to fit the plans of either team: step towards mediocrity for Charlotte and a step back for a playoff team.

[bes628]

For Memphis, it would be to significantly reduce salary while replacing Gay with a quality piece. For Charlotte it would be to get a known quantity, albeit expensive one, to build around.

Still, I agree that this doesn't seem to fit the plans of either team: step towards mediocrity for Charlotte and a step back for a playoff team.

How does acquiring Rudy Gay = a step towards mediocrity ?

[dnbman]

How does acquiring Rudy Gay = a step towards mediocrity ?

Because he's not the kind of player that will make us a serious contender, but he's good enough that we stay in that low lottery position we've found ourselves in so many times.

AND he gets paid big dollars, limiting our ability to add other pieces.

[SWedd523]

You don't pay max money for a guy who isn't a top 10 player.

[ND22]

He would have a slightly bigger impact than Gerald Wallace had for us. Obviously he is more offensively gifted, but he doesn't scream franchise player. He would make us better, and with a few other pieces we'd be a playoff team, but I don't see us becoming contenders. The same was true with Wallace.

I like Rudy Gay, I really do, but he's not the guy I trade the #2 pick for, especially with that contract of his.

[westbrook08]

Ugh! So many thoughts on this.I wouldn't buy too much into this right now.I definitely think memphis is trying to increase the market for him and the media completely dogs us out so anytime we even listen to an offer leading up to the draft the headline is going to read that a trade is imminent and that it's all jordan's fault, and that we're the dumbest franchise ever.Having said that i wouldn't do it anyway.He's 26 right now and by the time we can be an actual contender he's gonna 30.And that's if the rebuild goes stellar.And during that entire time we would have to pay him superstar money and he would probably make us just good enough to fuck up our draft position the next few years.Not to mention the fact that this draft is loaded with 2's and 3's.Magette has a huge expiring contract and i'm sure if we can save some team over 10 million dollars that we could probably get a mid first rounder and take a very promising prospect in addition to robinson @ 2.And both would be on rookie contracts.If for some reason management is hell bent on doing this trade the it had better be thomas,diop,and the 2 pick for gay, speights,the 25th pick and a good player from another team somehow involved.I would still keep magette though.I think he can be moved separately.As much as i like rudy gay,i would hope we don't touch this deal if it's true though.And no disrespect to anyone's orientation,but as bad as other fans already rag on us, i really don't want a bunch of gay bobcat's jerseys circulating anytime soon! lol.

[superb1]

I think he could be also, but that's a huge gamble.

yep, this is a huge gamble to see if he does reach superstardom but it would be a risk to pick T-Rob or MKG also, at least it would be a cheaper gamble.


This seems like a trade that would take us in a different direction than what the "plan" is...or at least what I think the plan is. The salary is too big, and Memphis isn't going to take what basically would be a couple of random second or third level players for him anyway.

If we made this trade, I'd be interested in hearing both teams' reasoning for it, because I can't see any real reason for either team to do it on my own.

definitely, if we get Rudy, we might as well say Cho's plan to rebuild thru draft is all but abandoned. If so, hope they don't screw this up.

[spectre]

(https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy)Bill Ingram ‏@TheRocketGuy (https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy) League source confirms #2 pick for sale, but Bobcats asking for the world and will look to include Diop or Tyrus Thomas....


LIke I said earlier...due diligence.

[superb1]

I think he could be also, but that's a huge gamble.


[URL="https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy"]

LIke I said earlier...due diligence.

glad to see we are exploring all options, the following link would support that we are willing to trade down too. the part about Tyler Zeller

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/06/07/3300059/kansas-forward-robinson-not-sold.html

[Scottley Crue]

[URL="https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy"]

LIke I said earlier...due diligence.

Absolutely. And Cho's attaching the correct price to it as well (Thomas and/or Diop). He's got a bird in the hand with the 2nd pick, knowing he can get a talented player on a rookie contract by giving up nothing. Not a bad "fallback" option. It gives him a great position to be in if a deal comes up...he really doesn't have to take any deal, just one that works best for him because he's already in a good spot.

[SJackson1]

we are in a good spot with the 2nd pick and i think we should consider and think about any trade offers which are on the table

[ohara831]

I'd deal with GSW. David Lee and #7 in exchange for #2. I'll take that one all day long.

[dnbman]

I'd deal with GSW. David Lee and #7 in exchange for #2. I'll take that one all day long.

Lee's nice, but he's pushing 30 and has a long contract with the last two years (14/15, 15/16) being $15M+.

He would make a nice pairing with Biyombo, but that's big money to be invested in the guy.

[SJackson1]

I'd deal with GSW. David Lee and #7 in exchange for #2. I'll take that one all day long.

i would definatley consider that trade

[ohara831]

If we do the Lee deal with GSW, then take Barnes at #7. Starting lineup of Kemba. Hendo, Barnes, Lee, Biyombo. Not bad.

[Scrapper1]

Wouldn't trade for Gay and definitely not for Lee(hes on the decline.. nothing like his Knicks days). A great idea IF they wanna trade the pick is to work with Portland, get their #6 and #11 picks and draft SF-Harrison Barnes and SG-Deion Waiters. Two future all stars and will score like crazy. Waiters is gonna be a star..plays just like D.Wade. Or they can just keep the pick and build with a future hall of famer, MKG. Also, you guys are too high on Henderson.. he is nothing more than a sixth man on any other team, he is no leader. I would trade his ass and Corey AND D.J. No team will reach the playoffs with D.J as their starting PG. Only current players on that current roster i would keep is Kemba and Bismack. And draft Festus or Jenkins in second round.

[SJackson1]

there is no doubt that several of the players in this draft will be all stars, i hope we draft one of them !

[Felton for Prez]

I also read on Hoopsworld we haven't talked to T'Rob yet. My guess is that the team is trying to make it known that #2 is open (no way they trade it for Gay though) and they will likely play up their interest in MKG thus enticing someone to overpay for #2. Then we end up taking T'Rob.

T'Rob showing up in a jacket and tie impresses me even though i hate wearing ties. It just shows that he's taking this very seriously. I like it.

[Ghost Kat]

I like the idea of Henderson and Gay switching off while guarding people like Capt. Jack and Crash used to do. But the contract and chance to maybe draft another center piece might be to much of a risk. This team needs a go to guy. Team needs a small forward. But this team doesn't need to go into debt over one player when we need atleast three more.

[ohara831]

Wouldn't trade for Gay and definitely not for Lee(hes on the decline.. nothing like his Knicks days). A great idea IF they wanna trade the pick is to work with Portland, get their #6 and #11 picks and draft SF-Harrison Barnes and SG-Deion Waiters. Two future all stars and will score like crazy. Waiters is gonna be a star..plays just like D.Wade. Or they can just keep the pick and build with a future hall of famer, MKG. Also, you guys are too high on Henderson.. he is nothing more than a sixth man on any other team, he is no leader. I would trade his ass and Corey AND D.J. No team will reach the playoffs with D.J as their starting PG. Only current players on that current roster i would keep is Kemba and Bismack. And draft Festus or Jenkins in second round.

How is Lee on the decline? He is only 29 and he avg'd over 20pts and 9.6 reb/game. I think he'd be the perfect compliment to Biyombo.

[Black]

For what it's worth:


“We’re not looking to trade Rudy Gay,” Heisley said. “We’re not shopping him around. Period. Do we sit around and say ‘What if we traded Rudy, who could we get?’ No. Right now, Rudy is part of the future of this team.”

[Scrapper1]

David Lee always injured, they not gonna move him anyway. The Bobcats need size..with skill, Lee and Biyombo 6'9. Nah. But respect your opinion. Portland and Sac has the best possibilities. Heard they dont wanna extend Evans contract,so..

[Plowright]

That team would make us okay, prob around 8th seed again... O wait here comes meritocracy again

[SJackson1]

i honestly believe that TRob is a franchise changer and along with Biyombo, Walker and Hendo we just need to give them time to develop

[LetsGoBobcats!]

Guys how about #2 pick for Andrew Bynum straight up? lets be real here anthony davis is the only franchise player potential in this draft and he will be taken by the hornets at #1 ,andrew bynum is a franchise player potential and is going in his prime.

[Chef]

Guys how about #2 pick for Andrew Bynum straight up? lets be real here anthony davis is the only franchise player potential in this draft and he will be taken by the hornets at #1 ,andrew bynum is a franchise player potential and is going in his prime.

andrew bynum would come completely unhinged on our team. plus he has just completed his first fully healthy season. no thanks.

[spectre]

andrew bynum would come completely unhinged on our team. plus he has just completed his first fully healthy season. no thanks.

Not to mention his cost/due for a new contract.

We're not going to be a tax team so money has to play a part in what we do the next year and probably the year after that. Taking on guys like Bynum and Gay for our #2 just doesn't make sense even if we do lose Tyrus in the deal.

[Plowright]

I just don't think were at the right stage to add someone like that. Maybe after we have a nucleaus of guys, then Gay or Bynum could take them to the next level to be a contender. But just not yet...

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

I would not ttrade the 2nd pick for rudy gay...hes getting paid way too much.....we need to keep with our plan of building through the draft and signing some free agents....

[Katmandu]

I would not ttrade the 2nd pick for rudy gay...hes getting paid way too much.....we need to keep with our plan of building through the draft and signing some free agents....

I agree with Bonnell that we should have picked Gay instead of Ammo. That ship sailed. I think Gay would be miserable here. I'd rather collect young assets until the point where a name free agent might actually make a difference. Until then, collect and develop assets and stay away from large contracts.

[Scrapper1]

Honestly, they should seriously keep the pick and draft Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. That young man is gonna be great. He has the "it" factor.. the type that will make players around him better. He would be great around Kemba and Biyombo, pushing them to train more and work harder. At Kentucky, he started this "breakfast club" training group, during Christmas break, he would spearhead aggresive training workouts with the top talents on the team at 6am. Losing does not sadden him..it disgusts him. I see... Scottie Pippen when i look at this kid. 19 years old, crazy motor, drive.. he has all the qualities that you just cant teach. Michael Jordan see it in him..winners recognize winners. MKG will not only sweat for a win.. he will bleed for it. Thats why scouts LOVE this guy. He will be better than Davis. Hell, he trained and inspired him.

[Proudiddy]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221474/Warriors_Bobcats_Raptors_Nets_Interested_In_Tradin g_For_Rudy_Gay

This says we "have contacted" the Griz about trading for Gay. Adds another dimension to the talks considering up to this point all we've heard has made it sound like the Griz we're gauging our interest and then they denied it.

Not quite sure what to think of this...

[dnbman]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221474/Warriors_Bobcats_Raptors_Nets_Interested_In_Tradin g_For_Rudy_Gay

This says we "have contacted" the Griz about trading for Gay. Adds another dimension to the talks considering up to this point all we've heard has made it sound like the Griz we're gauging our interest and then they denied it.

Not quite sure what to think of this...

I'm not too worried about it. Hell, it could have been from the stand point of taking their pick to absorb his contract. Who knows?

The one thing I'm refusing to do is go Chicken Little over every trade rumor that's out there. As many have stated, in Cho I trust.

[WAM9]

The one thing I'm refusing to do is go Chicken Little over every trade rumor that's out there. As many have stated, in Cho I trust.

Agreed! .....

[Chef]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221474/Warriors_Bobcats_Raptors_Nets_Interested_In_Tradin g_For_Rudy_Gay

This says we "have contacted" the Griz about trading for Gay. Adds another dimension to the talks considering up to this point all we've heard has made it sound like the Griz we're gauging our interest and then they denied it.

Not quite sure what to think of this...

it makes sense for both teams. immediately it sets parameters of value for both our pick and rudy gay. i am sure gm's do this all the time. it is good business to help set the market.

[TheBeagle]

it makes sense for both teams. immediately it sets parameters of value for both our pick and rudy gay. i am sure gm's do this all the time. it is good business to help set the market. Nice perspective, Chef. I hadn't thought of it that way. I was only horrified by the idea of absorbing Gay's contract as a distinct possibility. Love that Cho's building interest and value for the 2...and there's still a couple weeks more to continue to build it up.

[superb1]

Honestly, they should seriously keep the pick and draft Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. That young man is gonna be great. He has the "it" factor.. the type that will make players around him better. He would be great around Kemba and Biyombo, pushing them to train more and work harder. At Kentucky, he started this "breakfast club" training group, during Christmas break, he would spearhead aggresive training workouts with the top talents on the team at 6am. Losing does not sadden him..it disgusts him. I see... Scottie Pippen when i look at this kid. 19 years old, crazy motor, drive.. he has all the qualities that you just cant teach. Michael Jordan see it in him..winners recognize winners. MKG will not only sweat for a win.. he will bleed for it. Thats why scouts LOVE this guy. He will be better than Davis. Hell, he trained and inspired him.

maybe he is the type player we need here

[fallen xxi]

I love Rudy Gay and he's one of my favorite players in basketball, but this move would absolutely brutalize this team financially. I'd want their pick, a future pick AND for them to take Maggs and Diop in order for that to happen. Gay actually is a superstar quality talent, but we aren't good enough to take that moolah on the books.

[Black]

I love Rudy Gay and he's one of my favorite players in basketball, but this move would absolutely brutalize this team financially. I'd want their pick, a future pick AND for them to take Maggs and Diop in order for that to happen. Gay actually is a superstar quality talent, but we aren't good enough to take that moolah on the books.

Tyrus would have to be involved for me to even start to stomach that deal

[Scrapper1]

I just heard that the Cavs offered all their picks(#4,#24,#33,34) for the hornets #1 pick...stupid to even ask? Absolutely. If the bobcats wanna do a deal for picks, thats the only team i would do one with..for their four picks, give em the #2 and #31 pick.. and dump off tyrus contract. Sounds great.. and on top of that, bobcats may still end up with who they wanted in the first place while STILL getting damn near an entire starting 5. Or they can package the #24 pick, #33 &34 picks to move up the draft and have a higher pick along with the #4.. or trade #24 to a team who will be crap next season for their 1st round pick next year and possibly have two lottery picks next year(Muhammad and Nerlins Noel will be in that draft).What you guys think? Cavs are looking really desperate to move up..

[JohnnyTimmons]

Wouldn't happen. That big offer from the Cavs is not for the #1 pick, it is for Anthony Davis. Does that make sense? We are only one space below them, but the drop off (percieved or real) is substantial after Davis. So of course you take that if they offer, but they wouldn't for the Beal/Robinson/Gilchrist crapshoot.

[Scrapper1]

Wouldn't happen. That big offer from the Cavs is not for the #1 pick, it is for Anthony Davis. Does that make sense? We are only one space below them, but the drop off (percieved or real) is substantial after Davis. So of course you take that if they offer, but they wouldn't for the Beal/Robinson/Gilchrist crapshoot.

Duh, of course its for Davis..smh. they want that pick so they can draft him.. nobody officially has Davis on their roster..so its for the top pick. But, who knows.. if they want one of the top 3 under Davis(beal, mkg & t-rob) more than others, they will do what the Browns did with Trent Richardson. I mean, if their dumb enough to ask for the top pick(davis), knowing damn well "hell no" will be the answer.. anything is possible. Portland passed up on Jordan AND Durant..so, dumb does happen in the NBA.LOL... sometimes, more than once.

[Ghost Kat]

I swear I don't understand the hype over the Unibrow. Other then blocking shots, he's not a major threat. Kinda sounds like a light skinned unibrowed Biyombo. I dont think we should trade this pick. Draft Robinson, buy a SF in the offseason and lets go

[fallen xxi]

I swear I don't understand the hype over the Unibrow. Other then blocking shots, he's not a major threat. Kinda sounds like a light skinned unibrowed Biyombo. I dont think we should trade this pick. Draft Robinson, buy a SF in the offseason and lets go

Exactly...we already have a guy that can block damn shots. Robinson is so polished offensively we'd be stupid to pass him up he's a pretty solid building block.

[SWedd523]

I swear I don't understand the hype over the Unibrow. Other then blocking shots, he's not a major threat. Kinda sounds like a light skinned unibrowed Biyombo. I dont think we should trade this pick. Draft Robinson, buy a SF in the offseason and lets go
Imagine a taller Bismack with the potential to be a threat on offense.


Really good right?

[Mustachio]

Imagine a taller Bismack with the potential to be a threat on offense.


Really good right?

I think they are relatively the same in height right? Bismack 6'9.5 Davis 6'10. But Bismack does have a longer wingspan and standing reach.

But Kat, there really is no comparing the two. Bismack is raw defined. Davis has much better hands, and a better feel for the game. they are close in age, but i think developmentally Davis is much much further along.


But even if Davis doesn't deserve the hype and is as you say " a light skinned unibrowed Biyombo" ..... you know whats better than 1 Bismack Biyombo?.... 2 Bismack Biyombos.