View Full Version : Wizards Accepting Trade Calls For No. 3 Pick
superb1
06-27-2012, 09:42 AM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221763/Wizards_Accepting_Trade_Calls_For_No_3_Pick
The Wizards have received calls from a number of teams in recent days about trading the No. 3 pick, according to sources.
Charlotte is interested in trading down to pick Thomas Robinson while collecting additional assets in the process. The Cavaliers may use the No. 4 and No. 24 picks to move up to the No. 2 slot. Cleveland is interested in Bradley Beal and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, but both could be off the board when the pick.
Washington is interested in Beal, Kidd-Gilchrist and Harrison Barnes.
Not sure if this affects us in anyway but I don't see the motivation in it. maybe smoke screen.
if they throw in maybe Chris Singleton and/or their 2nd rounder, maybe we can deal. idk
sorry, please move to around the NBA. post in wrong area
Hormel
06-27-2012, 10:04 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Washington is taking calls and claiming that the bobcats are going to take robinson anyways so if you want Beal then trade with us it will be cheaper then trading with Charlotte
Sounds like they are trying to under cut us
BlockParty
06-27-2012, 10:37 AM
If they want Beal....and know that they may get Chominated at the last second with Charlotte moving the pick to Cleveland....they have to put out big time feelers now for what their pick is worth, until they do that, they won't/can't make a move with us to swap picks to guarantee they get Beal.
They're trying to scare us into keeping the 2nd pick instead of trading on the off chance we lose out on Robinson. If we do trade down, and Washington trades the 3rd pick and whoever gets it drafts Robinson, oh well we take someone else.
RedSox3g2
06-27-2012, 10:51 AM
This is also a bad thing for us. If we really want one of Barnes or Robinson this makes it a much bigger risk trading back with Cleveland. Also if they trade it someone who doesnt want beal it decreases the value of moving up for Cleveland because we clearly don't seem to want beal to badly and if 3 doesnt either they get him at 4. I would bet its just a leverage move to show us we don't hold all the cards, trying to force us down on our asking price to them.
This is also a bad thing for us. If we really want one of Barnes or Robinson this makes it a much bigger risk trading back with Cleveland. Also if they trade it someone who doesnt want beal it decreases the value of moving up for Cleveland because we clearly don't seem to want beal to badly and if 3 doesnt either they get him at 4. I would bet its just a leverage move to show us we don't hold all the cards, trying to force us down on our asking price to them.
guys, simple solution. take beal at #2, trade him after the fact.
Mustachio
06-27-2012, 10:57 AM
This is idiotic on their part. They can do nothing to us. We will take Robinson at 4. We will take Barnes at 4. We will take MKG at 4. We have so many holes to fill, that it literally doesn't matter what Washington does. They can't block us from anyone.
Not to mention, how many teams are that giddy about Robinson that they would break the bank to go get him? No way Washington really comes out on top from a value stand point. It's just silly on their part trying to get us back for trading with Cleveland to jump ahead. You mad Bro?
and of course douchebag Chad loves it.
Chad Ford @chadfordinsider (https://twitter.com/#%21/chadfordinsider) Nice shot across Bobcats bow RT @MrMichaelLee (https://twitter.com/#%21/MrMichaelLee): Sources: Teams interested in Thomas Robinson calling about No. 3 pick: http://wapo.st/MSbFJ8 (http://t.co/velgnniY)
Chad Ford @chadfordinsider (https://twitter.com/#%21/chadfordinsider)
Wizards want to make Bobcats nervous that if they trade 2 to Clev for 4 & 24, TRob, the guy the Cats covet, might not be there. Nice!
I hope Jordan slept with his wife, because thats the only thing that would justify his anti-charlotte slant.
cltblkhscoach
06-27-2012, 11:00 AM
Exactly Chef. Washingon can't take Barnes and Robinson, so we just take whoever's left at 4. I just don't think Cho is going to take a defensive player this high. His OKC draft record says he's going to go with dynamic offensive guys who have good defensive ability. Barnes then T-Rob most likely.
Mustachio
06-27-2012, 11:00 AM
This is also a bad thing for us. If we really want one of Barnes or Robinson this makes it a much bigger risk trading back with Cleveland. Also if they trade it someone who doesnt want beal it decreases the value of moving up for Cleveland because we clearly don't seem to want beal to badly and if 3 doesnt either they get him at 4. I would bet its just a leverage move to show us we don't hold all the cards, trying to force us down on our asking price to them.
But it doesn't have any risk at all for us. Its only moving back to #4. They can't trade away 5 players. Davis is going to NO. After that I've heard Charlotte likes Robinson, Barnes, MKG and Beal. literally no way we can lose here. Stay and pick whoever you want at 2, or if you aren't sold on any particular one, trade down and get whoever didn't get taken by Was/Clev. Either way we are getting a player that could be great, and filling positional need at the same time. They can't hurt us.
cltblkhscoach
06-27-2012, 11:02 AM
On top of that Washington would screw themselves because we KNOW they need a wing guy. If they trade out, they lose.
SJackson1
06-27-2012, 11:06 AM
i will be dissapointed if we draft Barnes after all this time to think about the best player for our franchise.
RedSox3g2
06-27-2012, 11:09 AM
guys, simple solution. take beal at #2, trade him after the fact.
It's not that simple if we don't want him. Our leverage goes down if we really want one guy and not Beal in that situation.
RedSox3g2
06-27-2012, 11:13 AM
But it doesn't have any risk at all for us. Its only moving back to #4. They can't trade away 5 players. Davis is going to NO. After that I've heard Charlotte likes Robinson, Barnes, MKG and Beal. literally no way we can lose here. Stay and pick whoever you want at 2, or if you aren't sold on any particular one, trade down and get whoever didn't get taken by Was/Clev. Either way we are getting a player that could be great, and filling positional need at the same time. They can't hurt us.
Yes I understand that, but my point was IF we really want one guy (probably Robinson if that's the case).
It's not that simple if we don't want him. Our leverage goes down if we really want one guy and not Beal in that situation.
the leverage is that there are at least 2 teams that really want him over barnes, mkg and trob. the trade will be there. and if it isn't we still get who many say is the only other perennial all-star. i am ok with that.
RedSox3g2
06-27-2012, 11:17 AM
Yes but if we are handcuffed into trading with one team (say we want Robinson and have Beal and whoever trades to 3 does it for Robinson, Robinson for Beal would not work). This doesn't hurt us if it is us being unsure of our definite guy at 2, but it hurts the idea of us sliding back to 4, getting extra picks, and still getting the guy we want. If we like several guys equally than I agree Washington doesn't matter.
Yes but if we are handcuffed into trading with one team (say we want Robinson and have Beal and whoever trades to 3 does it for Robinson, Robinson for Beal would not work). This doesn't hurt us if it is us being unsure of our definite guy at 2, but it hurts the idea of us sliding back to 4, getting extra picks, and still getting the guy we want. If we like several guys equally than I agree Washington doesn't matter.
sure. i was going under the assumption that our management really has no preference between mkg, beal, barnes, robinson.
RedSox3g2
06-27-2012, 11:22 AM
sure. i was going under the assumption that our management really has no preference between mkg, beal, barnes, robinson.
I agree with you in that case, obviously we have no way of knowing but if they trade down I hope (and would assume) they at least have a top two so we are not totally gambling.
cltblkhscoach
06-27-2012, 11:27 AM
I think we feel equally happy about the top 4 - sure T-Rob, Barnes, and MKG would be great fits but Beal is a great talent also. We can't lose, unless we pick MKG, but that's just my opinion :) lol....we are like Parker Lewis in the late 80's right now!
Dcarnys
06-27-2012, 11:35 AM
From what I see it as Charlotte's going with T-Rob or Barnes. Maybe Cho is throwing up smokescreens to get another top pick. Honestly, we can't lose right now. Charlotte is in the drivers seat, the front office is trying to get Washington or Cleveland to react and bite at a offer in panic.
Scottley Crue
06-27-2012, 12:22 PM
It's clearly a smokescreen/scare tactic from Washington. (And not a very good one, even) If people are calling them about Robinson, I'd be willing to bet those same people have also called us since, you know, our pick is the one to get if you "covet" someone not named Anthony Davis and want to be 100% sure to get them. The Wiz could certainly trade that pick, but they'd have to get something very nice back in return and keep it under wraps until after we pick.
I'd be willing to bet this tactic came out because they don't like the price we've attached to the #2 pick. It undoubtedly has Tyrus Thomas attached to it, especially since the Wiz reportedly wanted to trade Blatche for him earlier this season. Cho is having Washington and Cleveland compete to drive the price up, and if he does make a deal, he'll get every last bit he can and then some.
GoBobs
06-27-2012, 12:38 PM
I think Was really wants Beal and are exploring options in case he is gone. I am almost inclined to pick Beal at number 2 and then offer Hendo to Washington for the #3, maybe even throw in one of the next year protected picks if they would do that.
Black
06-27-2012, 12:52 PM
I think Was really wants Beal and are exploring options in case he is gone. I am almost inclined to pick Beal at number 2 and then offer Hendo to Washington for the #3, maybe even throw in one of the next year protected picks if they would do that.
Hendo and Beal for number 3? Or Hendo for number 3?
Neither makes sense.
IshHappens
06-27-2012, 01:08 PM
It all obviously depends on how much our front office wants Robinson, which nobody knows but them. If they really covet T-Rob, then this scare tactic does make sense because you're gambling by trading back that he'll still be there at 4. I'm not sure who would trade up with Washington for him, but the possibility is always there. It's easy for us to say "Ha, screw it, just take MKG or Barnes!" but if T-Rob fits the long-term plan Cho is coming up with, then that's the guy we need to take. If the front office is even on T-Rob and Barnes, then this doesn't mean jack. Washington is just puffing out its chest for nothing. Honestly, if we've highlighted Robinson as our guy, our #1 priority, then you have to get him however necessary. Even if you have to keep #2 and let Washington get their guy too.
Black
06-27-2012, 01:13 PM
Bonnell was just on 610 The Fan talking about the draft. He pointed out that a safer option may be to swap picks with Washington for the 32nd pick. This allows them to get their man, and leaves us in control of the pick. We could still land Robinson, and could either trade 32 as a part of another deal, or if we use the pick, then we aren't as financially committed as we would be to a first round pick.
spectre
06-27-2012, 01:27 PM
Bonnell was just on 610 The Fan talking about the draft. He pointed out that a safer option may be to swap picks with Washington for the 32nd pick. This allows them to get their man, and leaves us in control of the pick. We could still land Robinson, and could either trade 32 as a part of another deal, or if we use the pick, then we aren't as financially committed as we would be to a first round pick.
Now why would that bolded matter to us?
Otherwise yes, it is definitely the safer route to go and if that's what we end with then so be it. Hell if we stick with the 2nd overall I'm still good.
Black
06-27-2012, 01:29 PM
Now why would that bolded matter to us?
Otherwise yes, it is definitely the safer route to go and if that's what we end with then so be it. Hell if we stick with the 2nd overall I'm still good.
Bonnell's thought, not my own.
dnbman
06-27-2012, 01:52 PM
Not worried about it at all.
1.) I agree it's Washington creating leverage so that we'll take Robinson and they draft Beal. I'm sure they REALLY are taking calls, as I think every NBA FO that's doing it's job is ALWAYS taking calls. If a team calls and wants to know if we'd trade Kemba, Biyombo and the 2nd pick, you listen, because who knows what you're going to get offered? That doesn't mean there's any chance you actually make the deal.
2.) They trade the pick and we don't get Robinson. Live and let die. We take MKG or whoever else and move on. Maybe even keep Beal.
superb1
06-27-2012, 02:00 PM
Again, I think it is a smoke screen because Cho is playing chess and obviously he has the under hand. They are scared and playing this boo game.
spectre
06-27-2012, 03:18 PM
Bonnell's thought, not my own.
Yeah I know man...sorry if you took it as me hitting on you. I meant it directed at the post all the way.
SWedd523
06-27-2012, 03:25 PM
me hitting on you
http://i.qkme.me/36fy5e.jpg
Black
06-27-2012, 03:32 PM
I'm flattered.
spectre
06-27-2012, 04:30 PM
http://i.qkme.me/36fy5e.jpg
Are you 12?
Ghost Kat
06-27-2012, 04:59 PM
Barnes is just a chocolate dipped Adam Morrison. MKG...I don't want a grown man on my team with two last names, Pick one. Seriously though we need a SF but neither of these guys are stars. I like the trade idea with Cleveland and I think we could still get Robinson but it's a gamble.
SWedd523
06-27-2012, 05:01 PM
Are you 12?
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/robinamused.jpg
superb1
06-27-2012, 05:25 PM
hey, let's put this twist on things, rumor is OKC likes Beal. What if they trade Harden to the Wiz for #3 to get Beal. Which would not guarantee they get him cuz they still have to get pass us. The trade for BG lessen the fact that we could trade for Harden. #1. Why, when we can just draft Beal. #2 Risk Harden being a rental. #3. Our backcourt would be crowded.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8104507/florida-gator-bradley-beal-oklahoma-city-thunder-talked-moving-up
dnbman
06-27-2012, 05:29 PM
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/robinamused.jpg
No, but he's a pus...
pushover.
pusher.
drug pusher.
He sells drugs!
Scrapper1
06-27-2012, 05:38 PM
Cho playing chess.. the Wizards playing checkers
spectre
06-27-2012, 05:39 PM
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/robinamused.jpg
I'm really scared. :rolleyes:
Seriously, the cat pick was an awesome choice!
BTW, I like the RGM's "rollseyes" better. You're a mod...fix it.
In regards to WAS/OKC...if they are in talks we're really messing it up...and Harden would help WAS a lot. If we're not after Beal you'd think a worst case trade for us would be them.
TheBeagle
06-27-2012, 06:44 PM
This is idiotic on their part. They can do nothing to us. We will take Robinson at 4. We will take Barnes at 4. We will take MKG at 4. We have so many holes to fill, that it literally doesn't matter what Washington does. They can't block us from anyone.
Not to mention, how many teams are that giddy about Robinson that they would break the bank to go get him? No way Washington really comes out on top from a value stand point. It's just silly on their part trying to get us back for trading with Cleveland to jump ahead. You mad Bro?
and of course douchebag Chad loves it.
Chad Ford @chadfordinsider (https://twitter.com/#%21/chadfordinsider) Nice shot across Bobcats bow RT @MrMichaelLee (https://twitter.com/#%21/MrMichaelLee): Sources: Teams interested in Thomas Robinson calling about No. 3 pick: http://wapo.st/MSbFJ8 (http://t.co/velgnniY)
Chad Ford @chadfordinsider (https://twitter.com/#%21/chadfordinsider)
Wizards want to make Bobcats nervous that if they trade 2 to Clev for 4 & 24, TRob, the guy the Cats covet, might not be there. Nice!
I hope Jordan slept with his wife, because thats the only thing that would justify his anti-charlotte slant. First just let me say WAS is just trying to do something that will benefit them...can't really fault them for that....BUT it's totally weak because, as you say, you can only take 2 players before we draft at 4. Robinson, Harry, Beal, MKG; you can only take two of these off the board before it's our go and I'm thrilled with any of those guys, not really preferring one to another.
They're trying to go themselves some good but WAS is just not in the position to fuck wit' us and Cho is not a man to be fucked wit'!
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