MKG....sigh

[DashGlobal]

I am quite bummed out right now.

Dude has zero offensive game and doesnt even possess great size and athleticism.

Hopefully we pull either Wroten, Jenkins, Lamb, or English with the 31st pick.

[NotFromAroundHere]

No size or athleticism? What MKG are you watching? He's a great defender, is strong as hell, and will be the hardest worker every night. Cant go wrong with that.

[Veteran_Picksetter]

I am quite bummed out right now.

Dude has zero offensive game and doesnt even possess great size and athleticism.

Hopefully we pull either Wroten, Jenkins, Lamb, or English with the 31st pick.

230+ pounds, 7'0" wingspan, 8'8" reach. THAT IS SIZE at Small Forward. And he was one of the fastest players at the combine. Also, he is a high rebounder for his position, and that should be a good indicater of pro success.

He can guard 3 to 4 positions. That gives us versatiltiy with our lineups. He won't even be 19 until September.

I was slightly bummed, but this thing is a crap shoot. He could turn out to be quite deserving of the number 2 pick. It's not like anybody else stood out as a can't miss prospect. I wanted T-Rob. But we'll see.

[DashGlobal]

No size or athleticism? What MKG are you watching? He's a great defender, is strong as hell, and will be the hardest worker every night. Cant go wrong with that.

I will repeat.

He doesnt have GREAT/ELITE size or athleticism.

All those intangibles are nice but without possessing any great skills (shooting, handling, scoring, ect) its a joke for a #2 pick. And even more absurd when you factor in the first sentence I wrote.

[ohara831]

I am quite bummed out right now.

Dude has zero offensive game and doesnt even possess great size and athleticism.

Hopefully we pull either Wroten, Jenkins, Lamb, or English with the 31st pick.

Dude, what a bad post. He's a Bobcat now. At least try to pull for him and quit griping about it before he's even put on our uniform.

[BlockParty]

Cho was involved...I'm onboard! Go Cats

[Toocool]

Not many support the pick except a few of the more level headed/experienced posters.
We've been through a lot of terrible drafts, but a lot of us also have faith in Cho to make the right decision.
MKG is like a young Crash, give him some time to develop.
Biggest thing that MKG has going for him though is his mindset. You won't see any type of Boris Diaw from him, hes hard working, great work ethic and plays hard on the court.

[DashGlobal]

Dude, what a bad post. He's a Bobcat now. At least try to pull for him and quit griping about it before he's even put on our uniform.

Please.

And believe me, I want him to be great. I just dont see anything CLOSE to a number #2 pick. His offensive abilities make me want to cringe..

[NotFromAroundHere]

He's 19 and has the body of a grown man. Has the mindset we want the whole team to have. He's always hungry.

[SuperKemba]

I shocked more than anything but he's a good player so we'll see how he develops.

[bes628]

I'm not happy with the pick.

[DashGlobal]

This smells like a MJ pick a lot more than a Cho pick.

[Veteran_Picksetter]

When Kidd-Gilchrist jumps with no running start, he can touch higher on the glass than PF Thomas Robinson.

(see draftexpress.com measurements)

MKG basically has the same wingspan and reach as 7'0" Tyler Zeller.

He's a very good fit with Gordon if Ben sticks around.

[skratch]

idk what to think of the pick as of yet, hope hes really that guy though

[NotFromAroundHere]

The only player I wouldve considered was Robinson.

[The Prodigy]

This smells like a MJ pick a lot more than a Cho pick.
Give me a break. Unless we took the guy that you and your obvious draft expertise wanted, you are going to say the same thing.

There is no pleasing some of you guys.

"JorDan is going to draftz Barnes because he iz stupit and barnes went to UNC!"

*The Bobcats select MKG*

"AHhh jordan is an idiot he made this pick"

[Dcarnys]

As much as I wanted Robinson I think were gonna make out alright with MKG

[Talent]

Well the draft is far from over and we can still trade this guy. Also, MKG was a prolific player on a national champion last year what's not to like?

I think too many people fell in love with certain players.

[SJackson1]

he is only 18 !! has a very very very high ceiling and can effect the game in anyway possible

[Frosty06306]

I've been MKG since lottery night, only Robinson entered my mind on who else to take. He can only make us better. He is dedicated and a great defensive player, I'll take this any day. He can work on his shot, give him time. I'm excited!

[DashGlobal]

Give me a break. Unless we took the guy that you and your obvious draft expertise wanted, you are going to say the same thing.

There is no pleasing some of you guys.

"JorDan is going to draftz Barnes because he iz stupit and barnes went to UNC!"

*The Bobcats select MKG*

"AHhh jordan is an idiot he made this pick"

So all the reports of MJ loving MKG was false?

Dont kid yourself, this was a MJ pick.

[DashGlobal]

he is only 18 !! has a very very very high ceiling and can effect the game in anyway possible

High Ceiling?

Normally guys with high ceilings are people with elite athleticism and size. Someone like Drummond comes to mind. Not so much MKG

[Mr. 1020]

You guys really have to stop taking all the RUMORS as gospel. What happened to all the in Cho I trust. This is a great pick. The guy is young and plays his butt off every minute he is in the game.

[SJackson1]

I've been MKG since lottery night, only Robinson entered my mind on who else to take. He can only make us better. He is dedicated and a great defensive player, I'll take this any day. He can work on his shot, give him time. I'm excited!

couldn't agree more mate ! only 18 years old !

[Zoolander]

MKG hunh? Well I guess he fits the mold of the type of player Coach Dunlap wants. Athletic, runs the court well, defends, hard worker and good kid. So, we'll see..

[DashGlobal]

MKG hunh? Well I guess he fits the mold of the type of player Coach Dunlap wants. Athletic, runs the court well, defends, hard worker and good kid. So, we'll see..

Number 2 picks should be guys with the potential to be franchise players.

Gonna start drinking early tonight....

[SJackson1]

alot of people from Kentucky say that MKG was the leader of that team last year !

[JGib23]

I'm tired of "In Cho I Trust", I believe in what we are trying to do but, do u guys remember ILBIT? How'd that work out?

I hope MkG works out!

[isguros]

They traded Maggette to make room for MKG, if they like him that much, I do too.

[TyHill]

Number 2 picks should be guys with the potential to be franchise players.

Gonna start drinking early tonight....

Agreed , size..wing span, athletic.. Same things Tyrus Thomas had coming out and he's been great..

[superb1]

you guys are mostly upset cuz ur man was not called. I'm shocked, I was hoping for Beal, thinking that we were going to trade, then Robinson or Barnes. I think we will be ok. What turned me off for some reason was his interview after workouts. But Welcome MKG to the Queen City. And everybody stop dogging MJ.

[tom v]

Youngest guy in the draft - organization taking the long-view. The days of trying for instant gratification are thankfully over. I'm not a scout, but most people I read say that Beal, MKG and Drummond have the highest upside of the guys available. This is just the first step (maybe second if you count Bismack) in a long-term rebuild. This pick seems like they really tried to take the guy that they thought would be the best player 5 years from now. Maybe they're right, maybe not but at least the process seems sound.

[SJackson1]

ive got no doubt that MKG will be a star for our franchise !

[CharlotteHornets]

All of you are ridiculous. Cho made this pick!! I will tell you one thing too...MKG will be a stud in the NBA...I expect him to average 18ppg 11rpg 5ast and make multiple All-NBA Defensive teams.

I think the Bobcats made an excellent pick because they realized they were not going to get there superstar/franchise player in this draft. They are using this draft to add pieces to the puzzle!

[CharlotteHornets]

Agreed , size..wing span, athletic.. Same things Tyrus Thomas had coming out and he's been great..

You sir are ridiculous...comparing MKG to Tyrus is like comparing MJ to Earnest James...I'll laugh when in a few years when you are wearing an MKG jersey...

[DashGlobal]

Agreed , size..wing span, athletic.. Same things Tyrus Thomas had coming out and he's been great..

Trade with Houston and pick up Harkless and Leonard.

Why? Why?

SMH

[Zoolander]

He doesn't have franchise potential? That's news to me. I doubt Kentucky fills that way...

[SJackson1]

he is only 18 years and he has alot of talents for such a young player !

[DashGlobal]

All of you are ridiculous. Cho made this pick!! I will tell you one thing too...MKG will be a stud in the NBA...I expect him to average 18ppg 11rpg 5ast and make multiple All-NBA Defensive teams.

I think the Bobcats made an excellent pick because they realized they were not going to get there superstar/franchise player in this draft. They are using this draft to add pieces to the puzzle!

18ppg on transition points and put backs?!? Yea right

11rpg from the SF position in the NBA?!? Smh

Quite the optimistic are ya

[DashGlobal]

he is only 18 years and he has alot of talents for such a young player !

What talents?

Elite Size / Athleticism? Nop

Great Shooter? Nop

Great Ballhandler? Nop

Good Scorer? Nop

Oh wait I forgot, he has great HEART! lmfao

[Adam42R]

I was expecting Thomas Robinson so I was surprised by this. But this is a good kid and he works his ass off. I too think this was a hope at capturing a Crash at 18 years old. I think his defensive skills are probably going to make us very happy in the not too distant future.

[Veteran_Picksetter]

None of these guys knock my socks off as a number 2 pick. It's a down year for sure-fire studs.

MKG could work out as well as anybody else.

[JohnnyTimmons]

Shut the fuck up with this reactionary baseless negativity. You do do not have the multi-million dollar scouting programs, professional input, nor have you seen as many hours of tapes on MKG (i assume.) I was liking Robinson too, but I will defer to people who's job it is to evaluate talent, and at least wait to see one fucking game before I throw down this defeatest nonsense. Ridiculous and brings down the discussion. Let the adults talk.

[CharlotteHornets]

18ppg on transition points and put backs?!? Yea right

11rpg from the SF position in the NBA?!? Smh

Quite the optimistic are ya

Dash all you are is a HATER!! And a Dumba$$

Gerald Wallace averaged 18ppg and 10reb from the SF position in 2009...and MKG's floor is Gerald Wallace...

[SJackson1]

What talents?

Elite Size / Athleticism? Nop

Great Shooter? Nop

Great Ballhandler? Nop

Good Scorer? Nop

Oh wait I forgot, he has great HEART! lmfao

great rebounder

great defender

best motor in the draft

best finisher in the draft

[DashGlobal]

Shut the fuck up with this reactionary baseless negativity. You do do not have the multi-million dollar scouting programs, professional input, nor have you seen as many hours of tapes on MKG (i assume.) I was liking Robinson too, but I will defer to people who's job it is to evaluate talent, and at least wait to see one fucking game before I throw down this defeatest nonsense. Ridiculous and brings down the discussion. Let the adults talk.

Keep deferring to the same people / organization that drafted Morrison, May, Okafur, Anjica, ect

Lmao

[DashGlobal]

Dash all you are is a HATER!! And a Dumba$$

Gerald Wallace averaged 18ppg and 10reb from the SF position in 2009...and MKG's floor is Gerald Wallace...

Wallace is not a franchise player and wasnt drafted 2nd overall....

[Veteran_Picksetter]

great rebounder

great defender

best motor in the draft

best finisher in the draft

And I would add to that great length and speed for a Wing.

[CharlotteHornets]

Keep deferring to the same people / organization that drafted Morrison, May, Okafur, Anjica, ect

Lmao

just go jump on some other teams bandwagon and GTF outta here!

[DashGlobal]

great rebounder

great defender

best motor in the draft

best finisher in the draft

And that alone makes someone worthy of the 2nd pick in the draft?

Pretty low standards around here....

[DashGlobal]

just go jump on some other teams bandwagon and GTF outta here!

Thats ok.

Ill always support and pull for my home state teams.

Im pulling for MKG.

[Veteran_Picksetter]

The only small forward prospect with better length is Quincy Miller, who stands 6'10".

[WFU4LIFE]

LOVE this pick. MKG is the kind of guy you want when you start the rebuilding process. Barnes is an epic douche, who cares more about his brand than a team. I've heard his teammates didn't care for him too much, and towards the end of the college season he became quite the chucker. I would have been happy with TRob or MKG. Everyone talks about what a great shooter Barnes is. He only shot 35% from 3 over his two years at UNC, and again, I stress, he is an epic douche. I thought we were gonna go SF. Very glad it was MKG.

[SWedd523]

lololololol

"we didn't draft Barnes..... we iz stupid"

MKG is a great rebounder (there's a skill). Great defender (there's another). Fantastic in transition (there's another). and is a hard worker (there's another). He's also the youngest player in the draft, one of the more athletic players in the draft. And has better length than Barnes.

Here's to hoping we trade for Wayne Ellington

[Adam42R]

And that alone makes someone worthy of the 2nd pick in the draft?

Pretty low standards around here....

Nah, I think most people around here expect a bit more circumspect thinking and a lot expect more out of folks that identify themselves as fans.

[SJackson1]

And that alone makes someone worthy of the 2nd pick in the draft?

Pretty low standards around here....

the guy is 18 years old and i gurantee you will wear his jersey lol

[ohara831]

So Dash, who is your team? The Hornets? You are obviously not a Bobcat fan. Seem to hate the team, ownership and its fans. Pull for your team and be happy, whatever team that may be. And best of luck to you.

[DCAWFAN]

Thats ok.

Ill always support and pull for my home state teams.

Im pulling for MKG.
Who would have been your ideal pick at 2nd. Which 2-6 player met all of your 2nd pick standards?

[DashGlobal]

lololololol

"we didn't draft Barnes..... we iz stupid"

MKG is a great rebounder (there's a skill). Great defender (there's another). Fantastic in transition (there's another). and is a hard worker (there's another). He's also the youngest player in the draft, one of the more athletic players in the draft. And has better length than Barnes.

Here's to hoping we trade for Wayne Ellington

Great rebounders average double figure rebounds a game. MKG didnt.

Any elite wing should be great in transition.

Hard worker? Soo hard of a worker that he hasnt improved / re-tooled his god awful jump shot that needs more work than economy.

[DashGlobal]

Who would have been your ideal pick at 2nd. Which 2-6 player met all of your 2nd pick standards?

None of the players met my #2 pick requirements. All of them had to many holes / question marks.

I would have traded the pick.

[WFU4LIFE]

Great rebounders average double figure rebounds a game. MKG didnt.

Any elite wing should be great in transition.

Hard worker? Soo hard of a worker that he hasnt improved / re-tooled his god awful jump shot that needs more work than economy.
Did he fuck your girlfriend or something? Why are you so mad?

[CharlotteHornets]

can we temporarily ban the drunk idiot @DashGlobal until he sobers up or becomes a Heat fan?

[SJackson1]

Great rebounders average double figure rebounds a game. MKG didnt.

Any elite wing should be great in transition.

Hard worker? Soo hard of a worker that he hasnt improved / re-tooled his god awful jump shot that needs more work than economy.


he will in the NBA

[DashGlobal]

Did he fuck your girlfriend or something? Why are you so mad?

Because we just used the #2 pick on a guy that will never be more than a 3rd option on a good team.

[ND22]

MKG will not be a franchise player, but I don't believe we were drafting our franchise player in this draft. Anthony Davis is the only one worthy of that title. Gilchrest could be a good piece for this team when the franchise player is here, and that is why I am fine with this pick.

[WFU4LIFE]

Because we just used the #2 pick on a guy that will never be more than a 3rd option on a good team.
Every team needs a guy that is an all around solid player. MKG will work his ass off to get better. No his jump shot is not good, but oh well, we didn't draft him for his offense, we drafted him to lead our youth movement, to set the bar for how hard all our players need to be working. He's a terrific character kid, and he brings more than enough skills to the table to warrant the #2 pick.

[SWedd523]

Great rebounders average double figure rebounds a game. MKG didnt.
Great WINGS average 8 rebounds a game. MKG did.


Any elite wing should be great in transition.Then I guess he's elite


Hard worker? Soo hard of a worker that he hasnt improved / re-tooled his god awful jump shot that needs more work than economy. He'll be fine. He'll also be better than your boyfriend Barnes

[superb1]

Other than Davis, there were no clear cut franchise players in this draft. No matter who we drafted, it would have been a building block, pieces of our puzzle. I'm kind of happy that we are getting a guy who is 18 cuz when we do obtain a franchise guy, we will be ready to contend. We are not ready yet.

[SJackson1]

i can't wait for MKG to prove alot of people wrong !

[DashGlobal]

Let me end my rant I have to get ready to go out for a night in Managua Nicaragua.

MKG is a solid player no doubt, I just dont like the idea of using #2 picks on a guy that will never be more than a 3rd option on a good team.

I am hoping he improves his jumpshot to atleast RESPECTABLE then I can see him doing some damage.

I really wanted us to trade that pick as there is CLEARLY no franchise player / clear cut number 2.

Oh well.

Decent solid young piece added.

Now I will be happy if we can come away with either Wroten, Lamb, Jenkins, Barton, or Taylor at 31.

[SJackson1]

are you guys thinking Power Foward for our 31st pick ?

[DashGlobal]

are you guys thinking Power Foward for our 31st pick ?

Hell no! There is no talent at PF that late.

Much better talent in the guards.

To understand just how INEPT MKG is offensively watch this and take note of the stats...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTOzcSqivEI

[Scrapper1]

i can't wait for MKG to prove alot of people wrong !

He will absolutely do that! 18 yrs old and the LEADER of a NCAA championship team. Doing what was needed for the sake of winning. His stats could have been far better if he wanted to make that a focus.. but.. he wanted to win, thats all. And he did..he's low key too, he will love Charlotte.

[Bismack BROyombo]

I am in no way shape or form comparing MKG to LBJ but LBJ is not the greatest shooter in the world. You don't have to be a great shooter to be an all-star in this league.

[SJackson1]

I am in no way shape or form comparing MKG to LBJ but LBJ is not the greatest shooter in the world. You don't have to be a great shooter to be an all-star in this league.

correct !, look at Derrick Rose in his rookie year. If you have the determination and will to win you can improve different parts of your game to make yourself a better player !

[DashGlobal]

I am in no way shape or form comparing MKG to LBJ but LBJ is not the greatest shooter in the world. You don't have to be a great shooter to be an all-star in this league.

To be a franchise player you generally need 1 or a combination of the following

1) Elite Skills (wings/guards - scoring, shooting, ballhandling, passing&vision ; bigs - scoring, rebounding, blocking shots)

2) Elite Athleticism

[Scottley Crue]

Cho was involved...I'm onboard! Go Cats

Agreed. If the Chobot called for this, then I'm in favor of it. And I have no doubt that's what happened.

[Katmandu]

I'm fine with MKG. But then in the second round we took MKG Lite. That I don't understand.

[Veteran_Picksetter]

I'm fine with MKG. But then in the second round we took MKG Lite. That I don't understand.


Unlike MKG, Taylor is a great outside shooter. We needed a back up for Gilchrist. That makes 2 small forwards on the whole roster.

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

Lmao can't wait till MKG makes whoever started this thread look dumb....instead of killing the pick before watching him...how about you just welcome the guy to the team and support him? smfh at some fans WELCOME TO CHARLOTTE MKG GLAD WE PICKED YOU

[tom v]

I'm fine with MKG. But then in the second round we took MKG Lite. That I don't understand.

Scouts say he's an elite athlete. Quick first step, can get to the basket, great leaping ability, will defend. It's a second round pick. Most good teams have a starting lineup of only first rounders, so it's always a flyer at this stage. The nice thing is that he's not a stiff. They seemed determined to have a fast, long, athletic roster and this is another small step in that direction.

[WFU4LIFE]

Think of Taylor as our Thabo Sefoloosha, with a better shooting stroke, not quite as elite on defense. He's a good piece.

[CatNation1]

what a shitty thread

[dav7z]

MKG wasn't my choice . Face it all you guys for years including me on the board get inflonced by hype . From something we read or something another belives and that is what convinces you . Right now 99% of you guys think AD is all ready a all star . Truth be told he might not be the best player in this draft. After something like this someone all ways not happy . I wanted us trading with the Cavs and getting extra picks . But mabe Washington was going to take MKG i dont know.

I think we should just let the hype go and hope management made the right pick . Hell its easy to be a couch GM and BITCH BITCH BITCH ,,

[Potato]

Dash gtfo you're the worst user on the board.

MKG MKG MKG, Kidd-Gilchrist is gonna look FIRE on the back of a jersey.

[SJackson1]

Kemba, Biyombo and MKG are the future of this franchise !

[SWedd523]

what a shitty thread
You just got your first fine ham biscuit

[ALong13]

I don't like MKG, and he gives me little reason to think he can be an offensive threat in the NBA, but he's on our team now whether I like it or not, therefore I'm going to support him and hope he proves me wrong. We needed shooters, coach even said it...Our 2nd round pick is a better shooter and great defender than our first round pick. MKG has a work ethic that I hope rubs off, but I hope he can improve his offensive game fast.

As a Bobcats fan I'm hoping for the best and as I said hope he proves me wrong. I think Thomas Robinson was by far the second best player in this draft and really wanted him, that is what disappoints me the most.

[Veteran_Picksetter]

I don't like MKG, and he gives me little reason to think he can be an offensive threat in the NBA, but he's on our team now whether I like it or not, therefore I'm going to support him and hope he proves me wrong. We needed shooters, coach even said it...Our 2nd round pick is a better shooter and great defender than our first round pick. MKG has a work ethic that I hope rubs off, but I hope he can improve his offensive game fast.

As a Bobcats fan I'm hoping for the best and as I said hope he proves me wrong. I think Thomas Robinson was by far the second best player in this draft and really wanted him, that is what disappoints me the most.

It should be noted that Jeff Taylor is 4-5 years older than MKG. He SHOULD have a better shot right now.

And yeah, I was jonesin' T-Rob, but this could still be good.

[Bobcatter]

We got our starting SF. Next year's draft we'll grab our starting C. Don't think that management wasn't well aware that the top 10 of next year's draft is sure to be center heavy. There is a good chance that Cody Zeller, Nerlens Noel, Steven Adams, Rudy Gobert, and Isaiah Austin will all be there for the pickins'.

[Demon DeaCat]

I'm with Dash on this one. I'm nauseated by this pick. I've never been a fan of MKG. His limitations offensively can't be ignored so I don't understand why so many are ignoring them. I really can't think of a guy drafted this high (who was under 6'11")who's gotten more of a free pass for being a sub-par offensive player. It's not that I don't think he has value. Heart, motor, etc. all that stuff does matter, but skill matters more and he doesn't have enough of it, at least not on the offensive side, to warrant being drafted where he was. He could help a lot of teams, as a role player. My issue is using the 2nd overall pick to draft a role player. You just shouldn't do it, yet we just did. But whatever. He's a bobcat now. They're my team and he's now a part of it so I do hope he works out. I just think there's very little chance he lives up to this pick though. I'd be willing to bet next month's salary that 5 years from now he won't be the second best player from this draft.

[DCAWFAN]

One positive about MKG is that. Seeing his only real downside is lack of a jumpshot. At least that is something you can teach. All the things he already has such as a motor, and heart is not just something you can teach. If you don't have it, you don't have it.

[Potato]

MKG shot still needs some work, there's no denying that. But the dude is 18 YEARS OLD FOR CHRISTS SAKE. We know he's incredibly gifted athletically and physically and has a work ethic unmatched by anyone else in the draft. Combine all those physical tools and the work ethic and I think he'll develop his jump shot. Not year 1, probably not year 2 but by his 3-4 year in the league I think he'll have a very solid jump shot and be just like Crash except a lot younger. We have our future 3 with this pick, it's not gonna be easy and it will be a few seasons but tonight was a step in the right direction. Rome wasn't built in a day. Have faith in Cho and just keep confident and keep supporting our 'Cats.

[DCAWFAN]

On facebook I saw someone compare MKG's Jumpshot to that of Westbrook when he entered the league. Seeing how Cho scouted westbrook, perhaps he sees SF version of Westbrook in MKG. If that is the case then I will take MKG all day long.

[SWedd523]

I'm with Dash on this one. I'm nauseated by this pick. I've never been a fan of MKG. His limitations offensively can't be ignored so I don't understand why so many are ignoring them. I really can't think of a guy drafted this high (who was under 6'11")who's gotten more of a free pass for being a sub-par offensive player. It's not that I don't think he has value. Heart, motor, etc. all that stuff does matter, but skill matters more and he doesn't have enough of it, at least not on the offensive side, to warrant being drafted where he was. He could help a lot of teams, as a role player. My issue is using the 2nd overall pick to draft a role player. You just shouldn't do it, yet we just did. But whatever. He's a bobcat now. They're my team and he's now a part of it so I do hope he works out. I just think there's very little chance he lives up to this pick though. I'd be willing to bet next month's salary that 5 years from now he won't be the second best player from this draft.
He's going to be a role player? Could you please tell me the power ball lotto numbers?


Also, Diaw is probably the most skilled player in the league........... and he was waived by the worst team ever.


there is one, one, drawback to Gilchrist's game. The lack of a jumpshot. That doesn't make you a role player. Not when you have the work ethic to correct it.

[SirBobcat]

I'm just going to let it play out before I say anything. I said the Cam Newton pick sucked and boy did I ever get that wrong. Big fan of MKG and I hope he turns out good!

[Bosnian-Bobcats-Fan]

Looking at all these comments on the observer articles and what not its funny how people already know MKG will never be a good offensive player.....like it was said before he's only 18 years old....hes got damn near 10 years before hes in his prime....and with his work ethic im sure he'll develop a good jump shot....so give him time before you call him a terrible pick...

[Icky Thump]

DCAWFAN posted this in another thread: Cho and Higgins discussing the MKG pick...

http://www.nba.com/bobcats/video/2012/06/28/120628higginschom4v-2141585


Ask anyone in the draft chat and you'll know I was not thrilled about this selection. At the very least I felt we could have dropped back to as far as 4 (we supposedly had options to pick up picks by moving to 3 or 4) and still got MKG or a player of what most of us considered equal value.

Having watched that interview although neither Cho nor Higgins seems really ecstatic, Cho states that MKG was their top player on their board and they didn't feel the risk to move back was worthwhile. If they are willing to state that and Cho is willing to risk his all-mighty rep on that and roll the dice with MKG then I guess I can sit back and see how this goes. Definitely hoping the best for the team and MKG.

[CatNation1]

What do you want them to do, jump up and down high fiving eachother giggling like school girls? They've probably slept about 10 hours total this week.

[Icky Thump]

What do you want them to do, jump up and down high fiving eachother giggling like school girls? They've probably slept about 10 hours total this week.



Well New Orleans GM was certainly hopping excited... :/ .... Seriously I understand they were tired and I was saying despite them not appearing excessively ecstatic that they stated they were pretty confident (they said they were ecstatic even) in their choice and that's their job and Cho is supposed to be the magic man. That's all I can go off of at this point.

For me I was quite perturbed with the selection initially solely because I felt we could have got him after dropping down and picking up other assets which is what we'd seen from Cho before, but he said they didn't feel it was worth the risk which further shows his belief in MKG's ability above the rest of the crowd IMO. If they didn't want to risk losing out on him Cho must have actually had MKG a solid bit above the rest of the crowd.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

I don't like drafting players who might produce three of four years down the line with the second pick. A real reach in my opinion. Time will tell. Unfortunately I don't feel this team has more than a couple of years to show signs of improvement. I hate projects when drafting so early.

[westbrook08]

Ok.I haven't weighed in all night.Let me start by saying,fuck you dash,your being a whiny pre-teen little bitch.If you wanna do nothing but rant about the sport you like,then go be a fucking soccer fan! And to the guy to the top ^ ,yeah you! Anyone who lives in a state that elected bush and perry back to back, has zero credibility when it comes to making rational decisions.You're excused! Now on to basketball.I was definitely a robinson,you guys know that.But we are getting the youngest player in the draft,who is probably going to be a first team all nba defender within 5 years,has the heart of a lion,has great height and amazing reach,and who will do whatever it takes to improve offensively.I'll take that.Not to mention that he and kemba are like best friends.Kemba has been raving about him non stop since the lottery.So @ least we the chemistry will be good.And our second pick was great as well.Jeff taylor is probably the second best wing defender in this draft(and it might be a close 2nd)behind mkg.He was 3 times first team all sec.And it was because of defense.He wasn't even really that good on offense until last year.But as a senior,he averaged 18 a game and shot 42% on 3's.Having another 3 point threat and now having 2 different guys who can guard the other teams best player at all times.I'll take that too! And to all you negative people out there:think of it this way:With these guys being so young and taking time to develop,we probably just raised our chances of getting muhammed or noel to go with our guys by alot.But when they do develop,we're gonna have a nasty team! And this is just for you dash.You don't think mkg can handle the ball or shoot? I have a very nice video for you.He needs to fix the hitch in his shot for sure.But the idea of this kid and muhammed on the wings together would be scary! Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0U9qRFbldwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8OW7Y1VP5Q&feature=related
Oh' and here's one on shabazz muhammed just for the hell of it!
But wait,there's more! lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BizjvpziH24&feature=relmfu

[Ghost Kat]

I'm not reading this....I'm just amazed this thread has 3,500 views already. Getting alot of traffic Ziggy. I still hate Mr. Two-Last names, but not as much as Diaw

[JohnnyTimmons]

I know I have already weighed in on this, and while the jury is still out on MKG, (That's how 18 year olds that have never played professional sports should be treated) I want to throw out one more point. Everyone here was excited to see Bismack Play and mature. He locked down some games on D, even saved one late.
I dont see anyone hating on Cho and Co. for picking Biyombo. Heh, that rhymed. We are all referring to him as the future of our team.
I see Gilchrist as a similar aged, more experienced, more pedigreed, higher level-tested, Biyombo equivalent at his postition with a more polished offense and better speed.
We have a pure scorer really in Kemba, BG and Byron Mullens, then Biyombo and Henderson who I think will be very good defenders. Pair Gilchrist with them, he doesnt have to be a prolific scorer to really strengthen this team. Just put that extra effort in that he is known for, lock down the best scorer the opponent has that is in his range (2-4), and any offense he develops just helps out the team from there.
He's been compared to Iggy at his ceiling and Crash at his floor. Either one of those and in between is AMAZING paired with a developing Hendo Kemba and Bismack, and the (I'm hoping) franchise player we get in the next 2 drafts. I'm in a guard shack at work right now (so definitely trust my basketball analysis) and I can see the sky. Its still up there, hanging by the thread to which last year reduced it.
Go cats, do the goddamn thing.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Ok.I haven't weighed in all night.Let me start by saying,fuck you dash,your being a whiny pre-teen little bitch.If you wanna do nothing but rant about the sport you like,then go be a fucking soccer fan! And to the guy to the top ^ ,yeah you! Anyone who lives in a state that elected bush and perry back to back, has zero credibility when it comes to making rational decisions.You're excused! Now on to basketball.I was definitely a robinson,you guys know that.But we are getting the youngest player in the draft,who is probably going to be a first team all nba defender within 5 years,has the heart of a lion,has great height and amazing reach,and who will do whatever it takes to improve offensively.I'll take that.Not to mention that he and kemba are like best friends.Kemba has been raving about him non stop since the lottery.So @ least we the chemistry will be good.And our second pick was great as well.Jeff taylor is probably the second best wing defender in this draft(and it might be a close 2nd)behind mkg.He was 3 times first team all sec.And it was because of defense.He wasn't even really that good on offense until last year.But as a senior,he averaged 18 a game and shot 42% on 3's.Having another 3 point threat and now having 2 different guys who can guard the other teams best player at all times.I'll take that too! And to all you negative people out there:think of it this way:With these guys being so young and taking time to develop,we probably just raised our chances of getting muhammed or noel to go with our guys by alot.But when they do develop,we're gonna have a nasty team! And this is just for you dash.You don't think mkg can handle the ball or shoot? I have a very nice video for you.He needs to fix the hitch in his shot for sure.But the idea of this kid and muhammed on the wings together would be scary! Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0U9qRFbldwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8OW7Y1VP5Q&feature=related
Oh' and here's one on shabazz muhammed just for the hell of it!
But wait,there's more! lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BizjvpziH24&feature=relmfuHe you! The guy who called me out just two spots underneath the spot that you pointed me out as posting, I did not vote for either prick so you got it all mixed up. I gave an opinion and that is what we do on forums. If you don't like the opinion I gave I don't care. However there is no need to get personal about your disapproval of another persons opinion. As a fan I hope MKG is a frigging future HOF inductee but I do have the right to second guess a draft choice if I want to. MKG could have been had several spots lower had we not taken him in my opinion so I feel it was a bit of a reach. I would bet that in the future MKG will be a stud but it would have been nice to have a player more polished and not considered an "upside" player. In the end we are all fans so we all want the same thing so we should be civil in our dialogue.

I was wrong to get personal in regards to Cho and this draft but my passions overtook me and I was a bit upset at the pick not because MKG won't be good but because I felt we needed more of an immediate impact type of player. It always scares me when people talk about a pick having an "upside." It tends to leave a bigger question in regards to the future. I know that nobody can know the future and even if we had taken a player deemed NBA ready it may not pan out. Still I hate taking guys who have significant room to improve. I would rather the team had taken an offensive threat because that is a need on this team. Maybe MKG surprises a lot of people and he improves through hard work in the off season and plays better offensively. That would be awesome. As of now I do feel the first pick we made was a bit of a reach. Hope I am wrong.

By the way I am neither a Democrat or a Republican because the two party system is damaged beyond repair and most politicians do not have our best interest at heart.

[Chef]

By the way I am neither a Democrat or a Republican because the two party system is damaged beyond repair and most politicians do not have our best interest at heart.

see the most recent SCOTUS decision as proof of this.

[Lynel_The_Creator]

I remember when we drafted Gerald Wallace. I was pissed! At Bama all he did was dunk. Wasn't spectacular but he worked on his shot until you couldn't leave him open from beyond the arc. MKG will be fine, just have faith.

[CatNation1]

He's gonna be one of those guys where when this thread is bumped in 2 years everyone will get a big kick out of how much hate he got. Regardless of what you think now, he will be your favorite player on the team by the end of next season undoubtedly

[NotFromAroundHere]

Defense and intensity. Gotta love it!

[fallen xxi]

As a player, I respect his game and his hustle. Players like him are exactly what a rebuilding team can get excited about, and from that standpoint I really think that this was a good pick.

But I'm also looking at it from the other angle: as a person. I just watched the news conference and I gotta say, he really doesn't sound like he wants to be here, and he isn't very well spoken. Robinson on the other hand, would've been extremely excited to be here, he's very well spoken and very well publicized. On top of the fact that his offensive game is just overall more polished and is miles and miles better than MKG.

That being said, I'm not going to argue with the pick, I trust fully and 100% any pick that Rich Cho makes, and I will welcome MKG with open arms. I just hope he comes here ready to be a part of this team.

[CatNation1]

As a player, I respect his game and his hustle. Players like him are exactly what a rebuilding team can get excited about, and from that standpoint I really think that this was a good pick.

But I'm also looking at it from the other angle: as a person. I just watched the news conference and I gotta say, he really doesn't sound like he wants to be here, and he isn't very well spoken. Robinson on the other hand, would've been extremely excited to be here, he's very well spoken and very well publicized. On top of the fact that his offensive game is just overall more polished and is miles and miles better than MKG.

That being said, I'm not going to argue with the pick, I trust fully and 100% any pick that Rich Cho makes, and I will welcome MKG with open arms. I just hope he comes here ready to be a part of this team.

What makes you think he doesn't wanna be here? His speaking disorder?

[BobCatsFanInTx]

He's gonna be one of those guys where when this thread is bumped in 2 years everyone will get a big kick out of how much hate he got. Regardless of what you think now, he will be your favorite player on the team by the end of next season undoubtedlyI would not call my concerns or lack of enthusiasm for MKG hate. I feel the kid could be really good one day I just don't like taking guys as early as the top 5 when they are considered high upside players. I feel those players should be ready made products as opposed to projects. In time MKG could be pretty good all around but with our team lacking real offensive firepower outside of maybe Ben Gordon it seems that we could have picked a better fit for the team.

As I said before I hope I am wrong and MKG is a beast and helps improve our team quite a bit. Not enough to take us out of lottery position but to be good enough to help us win 20+ games. I am sure his skill set will help the team. I will be optimistic but I do feel we could have done ourselves better by picking someone known for scoring abilities as well as at least solid skills in other fundamental areas.

That said , I do not feel there was a consensus #2 in this draft so the talent available at least in the top five is probably pretty close. I just wish we would have focused the first pick on a ready made offensive skilled player. I will trust Cho but after so many blunders "without Cho granted" I am always wanting to second guess the picks. It may have been anyone else and still I may have in my gut wanted to question the pick. So many years of not even reaching the level of mediocrity has frayed my nerves and though I was all for a rebuild the patience it takes to see how it comes together is drastically taking a hit. I will keep my hopes high but last season was real tough and I do not think I could handle another season like last season. I want us to compete and at least win 20 games. That would garner our team some respect. I hate the disrespect even though it is partly understood. Peace out.

[fallen xxi]

What makes you think he doesn't wanna be here? His speaking disorder?

Well that pretty much explains any problem I had with him then...

[Talent]

To say an 18 year old kid is as good as he is going to be at basketball is crazy. I slept on this pick and researched a bit and feel MKG is a slashing SF who has the chance to spread the offense for other players on our team. Not by shooting but by driving and kicking the ball out. This was something last years team was horrendous at and I look forward to seeing if the Bobcats are going to pick anything up or work with the younger core we currently have.

[SJackson1]

many of us wanted a home run pick and we got one !

[Demon DeaCat]

He's going to be a role player? Could you please tell me the power ball lotto numbers?


Also, Diaw is probably the most skilled player in the league........... and he was waived by the worst team ever.


there is one, one, drawback to Gilchrist's game. The lack of a jumpshot. That doesn't make you a role player. Not when you have the work ethic to correct it.

Just the lack of a jump shot. You act like that's a small thing. It's not. It's a huge thing. Being able to shoot the ball is a pretty fundamental skill when it comes to playing basketball. When you can't do it you're a limited, incomplete player. And limited, incomplete players are more likely to be role players than stars.

Not sure what Diaw has to do with this. Lazy skilled players and hard-working, moderately skilled players both equate to role players.

[westbrook08]

I think he can shoot he just has an ugly jumpshot! lol. he'll be fine,just relex.And bobcatintx,you can't start a thread called cho is an idiot and not expect backlash.I'm not saying your a bad guy.But you need to give this pick time and see where the front office was coming from.I definitely wanted robinson.But i'm not blind enough to ignore what mkg brings to the table.

[SWedd523]

He does every other single thing you want other than shoot well. Guys that are average AND can't shoot aren't anything special. Guys that are great players that simply can't shoot well do just fine. The Heat just won a title with their two best players being sub par shooters. A guy like Barnes who can't dribble is a much bigger risk and Robinson is small, old, and limited offensively. You could make a case for Beal, but Cho didn't like him more, so it's fine by me.

Diaw is relevant because it shows that simply lacking or having skill has no bearing whatsoever on the type of player you can be. MKG has just about every "skill" you want, is intelligent, a leader, and instantly one of the hardest workers in the league. That TOTAL PACKAGE is what determines the type of player you'll be.

And let's not forget he's going to be the youngest player in the league. Not even 19 yet. He has almost a decade before he enters his prime, so I'd say he has plenty of time to develop a respectable jumper.

[CTownSC]

Winning 54-49 is just as good as winning 108-98.

[Demon DeaCat]

He does every other single thing you want other than shoot well. Guys that are average AND can't shoot aren't anything special. Guys that are great players that simply can't shoot well do just fine. The Heat just won a title with their two best players being sub par shooters.

So we just have to hope he's as good at all the other stuff as LeBron and D. Wade. Got it. Now I feel better.


Diaw is relevant because it shows that simply lacking or having skill has no bearing whatsoever on the type of player you can be. MKG has just about every "skill" you want, is intelligent, a leader, and instantly one of the hardest workers in the league. That TOTAL PACKAGE is what determines the type of player you'll be.

Of course just having skill doesn't guarantee that a guy will be a star. Lots of highly skilled players arent. But to say that skill level has "no bearing whatsoever" on the type of player a guy will become. I don't even know how to respond to that. All I can say is wow! I'm all about work ethic and approaching the game the right way, but skill does factor in. To say otherwise is preposterous.

[dnbman]

I think he can shoot he just has an ugly jumpshot! lol. he'll be fine,just relex.

This needs to be added to all discussion of MKG. He can shoot the ball and make some shots. It's not like Diop as an athletic three out there. He just has bad mechanics and isn't as good as you would like. He's not so bad that guys are be going to be giving him five feet on the outside. Some of the posts make it sound like he's launching airballs from outside 5 feet.

He may never be a great shooter, but plenty of fantastic players in the league are not great shooters. He does so many other things well that it will make up for the lack of shooting ability early in his career, and I'll bet he becomes a better shooter now that he is a professional with a full time coaching staff helping him.

[rsxnova]

Some people are comparing MKG's shot to Westbrooks when entering the league.

[SWedd523]

So we just have to hope he's as good at all the other stuff as LeBron and D. Wade. Got it. Now I feel better.Stop reaching to fit into your argument. That was one easy example. There are many others that can be added to the discussion as well. You seem to expect MKG to be the guy. The one CENTERPIECE. There is your mistake.




Of course just having skill doesn't guarantee that a guy will be a star. Lots of highly skilled players arent. But to say that skill level has "no bearing whatsoever" on the type of player a guy will become. I don't even know how to respond to that. All I can say is wow! I'm all about work ethic and approaching the game the right way, but skill does factor in. To say otherwise is preposterous. Reaching once again to fit your argument. Go back and read what I typed. Can't believe I'm going to repeat myself because you clearly have tunnel vision, but here goes.


simply lacking or having skill has no bearingAs in: Having little skill doesn't mean you suck, just as having every skill doesn't mean you're great.
In other words: it isn't as simple as not having X that determines how good a player you are, because there are many factors.

You can be unskilled and be a great player (Dwight), or you can be uber skilled and suck (Diaw). You can't just say, "He can't shoot so he's going to be a role player". That's oversimplifying and downright lazy


Now read what I said about MKG:


MKG has just about every "skill" you want, is intelligent, a leader, and instantly one of the hardest workers in the league.I'll break that down for you.

1. MKG isn't unskilled. He has every skill you need to be great... other than shooting. His one missing skill is much more easily correctable than most of the other guys we were looking at with the #2
2. MKG adds to his talents by having a) a fantastic frame b) high intelligence c) leadership and d) work ethic

Those things combined are what make him a great prospect. That's why I said, you know......


That TOTAL PACKAGE is what determines the type of player you'll be.

[Twan's Kin]

What type of speech impediment does MKG have?

[Demon DeaCat]

Reaching once again to fit your argument. Go back and read what I typed. Can't believe I'm going to repeat myself because you clearly have tunnel vision, but here goes.

How's that reaching? Your exact words were
Diaw is relevant because it shows that simply lacking or having skill has no bearing whatsoever on the type of player you can be. It's not reaching to conclude from that statement that you think skill is a minor factor in determing how good a player one will become. If that's not what you meant then maybe you should do a better job of articulating what you were trying to say, then maybe you wouldn't need to repeat yourself, because that's exactly what you said.


You can be unskilled and be a great player (Dwight), or you can be uber skilled and suck (Diaw).
You keep trying to use the Diaw example to prove a point that I have never taken issue with. You can be extremely talented and not be a great player, or even a very good player. Well yeah, that's obvious and I never said otherwise. Still not seeing how that's relevant to MKG. The fact that you can be skilled and not great doesn't discount the extreme importance of skill in assessing one's potential greatness. I think you're the one who's reaching with the Dwight comparison. Let's compare apples with apples shall we. Dwight Howard, as a center, relies on a completely different skill set than MKG does as a perimeter player. Unless he grows 5 inches over the summer, as a 6-7 wing, MKG will need to have a jump shot in his arsenal to ever be more than a complimentary player.


I'll break that down for you. MKG isn't unskilled. He has every skill you need to be great... other than shooting.

And I have every skill I need to be a great golfer, if I could just get that putting thing down. I'll break it down for you- SHOOTING IS AN ESSENTIAL SKILL FOR A PERIMETER PLAYER. And you don't need to break it down for me. I simply disagree with your assessment of MKG. I think you (and others) are over-valuing his overall skill set. I get that intangibles matter. I get that you think his "total package" is enough to compensate for his lack of shooting ability. It isn't something I don't understand that you need to explain to me. I just don't agree that his other skills outside of shooting are enough to overcome that deficiency.


His one missing skill is much more easily correctable than most of the other guys we were looking at with the #2

People keep saying that. He can just work at it and become a good shooter. It's not that easy. You actually weakened your argument and strengthened mine by bringing LeBron and Wade into the discussion. And by the way, you brought them up, not me, so again, I'm not reaching by using that comparison to make my point. You say it's all about the work. Well, LBJ and Wade are two of the hardest working guys in the league. They've both worked extremely hard on their perimeter games, yet, despite being 9 years into their careers, neither is considered a particularly good shooter. No amount of work is going to transform them into Ray Allen because shooting is an inate skill he has that they don't. They are still great because their athleticism is off the charts. They can compensate for being sub-par shooters, but most people can't. So to summarize, in order for MKG to become an elite NBA player he is going to need to (a) have James/Wade-esque athleticism (which he doesn't), (b) grow 5 inches such that his size will render his shooting ability moot (obviously not going to happen), or (c) "work" his way into becoming a great shooter (which history would suggest isn't going to happen either).


You seem to expect MKG to be the guy. The one CENTERPIECE.

Well you know, when you're the #2 pick in the draft, high expectations kinda come with the territory, so yeah, I was expecting a lot out of this pick. I think we all should have been.

[SJackson1]

if you have a variety of skills and your willing to work hard and give 110% every time you go out on the court you will be a fantastic player in the NBA

[SWedd523]

How's that reaching? Your exact words were It's not reaching to conclude from that statement that you think skill is a minor factor in determing how good a player one will become. If that's not what you meant then maybe you should do a better job of articulating what you were trying to say, then maybe you wouldn't need to repeat yourself, because that's exactly what you said.
The key word there is "simply". Diaw as a basketball player is simply skilled and nothing else. Simply, as in devoid of anything else.

From the rest of my posts I made three statements on skills relating to MKG.

1. He is skilled
2. The lack of one "skill" (shooting) does not make you unskilled
and 3. "skill" is but one part of the equation. I even put total package in capitals so you could get the point more clearly.



You keep trying to use the Diaw example to prove a point that I have never taken issue with. You can be extremely talented and not be a great player, or even a very good player. Well yeah, that's obvious and I never said otherwise. Still not seeing how that's relevant to MKG. The fact that you can be skilled and not great doesn't discount the extreme importance of skill in assessing one's potential greatness. I think you're the one who's reaching with the Dwight comparison. Let's compare apples with apples shall we. Dwight Howard, as a center, relies on a completely different skill set than MKG does as a perimeter player. Unless he grows 5 inches over the summer, as a 6-7 wing, MKG will need to have a jump shot in his arsenal to ever be more than a complimentary player.
And that's the fault I find with your premise.

A guy like MKG brings so much else to the table other than a 45% jumper that he is capable of being a difference maker. Gerald Wallace was an all-star and he took until his mid 20s before he could barely be relied on to hit an open three. Ron Artest is a career 41.8% from the floor and made an all nba team. Scottie Pippen shot 25% from three his first 5 years in the league and is one of the 50 greatest NBA players ever. Hard work took him from 17.4% his rookie year to 37.4% his 9th year.

All three of those guys are the most common comparisons I've seen for MKG. If he's (as many expect) nothing more than Gerald Wallace 2.0, then he's an all-nba caliber player. If that's what you consider a role player, then I can live with it.

[TheBeagle]

What type of speech impediment does MKG have? Slight stutter with anxiety in talking in front of cameras:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/06/29/3352699/mothers-love-speaks-volumes-about.html


MKG.....YES! YES! YES!

[westbrook08]

I can say one thing for sure.He is confident as hell.And has a swagger you can't teach.I thought it was really telling that when people were asking him all these specific questions yesterday that he just kept saying "it doesn't matter,i'm a basketball player,it's my job now, and i'm gonna work hard every day" and i think i heard him say "i'm a winner" about 10 times.If anyone can will himself into being a star,i like his chances of him being that guy.I sure wouldn't bet against him.And don't sell taylor short either.That kid's a winner too.There gonna make like very difficult for alot of guards in this league!

[millst2]

Cho said that he has a hitch in his shot, not that he can not shoot!
Cho also said that even with the hitch that he never once was hesitant.

As Sweed said Lebron shot 47% in the playoffs, 51% in the reg season.. but only 18% when taking a jumpshot / from outside the Paint.

Oh Knowz, Lebron Sucks, He can't shoot.. They should have taken someone else as shooting is the main skill you need in the NBA.

pfft

[Bleeding blue in 62]

Myself and a friend of mine were watching the draft Thursday night. I told him, I know Davis will go 1st but I really think Gilly will be the best pro we have put in the league. You guys are so lucky. The dude can do more than any player I have ever seen suited up in a UK uniform. He plays with so much passion. Rebounds, plays great defense, is so strong getting to the basket, & finishing. Once he gets a great shooting stroke( he will) he will be unstoppable. He is so fun to watch. Plays with a smile on his face all the time. I sure wish we could have had him one more year. You're gonna love him. Enjoy!!!!

[ziggy]

Myself and a friend of mine were watching the draft Thursday night. I told him, I know Davis will go 1st but I really think Gilly will be the best pro we have put in the league. You guys are so lucky. The dude can do more than any player I have ever seen suited up in a UK uniform. He plays with so much passion. Rebounds, plays great defense, is so strong getting to the basket, & finishing. Once he gets a great shooting stroke( he will) he will be unstoppable. He is so fun to watch. Plays with a smile on his face all the time. I sure wish we could have had him one more year. You're gonna love him. Enjoy!!!!

Hi Blue,

I'm far from a college basketball aficionado, so my question is this. MKG had a reputation for being just ferocious on the defensive end, Do you have any stories from last season where he locked down the other team's #1 guy? Do you think he'll be able to lock down #1 guys at the NBA level?

I watched hardly any college ball last season, so I'd love to hear from someone who watched him closely first hand.

[Veteran_Picksetter]

Cho said that he has a hitch in his shot, not that he can not shoot!
Cho also said that even with the hitch that he never once was hesitant.

As Sweed said Lebron shot 47% in the playoffs, 51% in the reg season.. but only 18% when taking a jumpshot / from outside the Paint.

Oh Knowz, Lebron Sucks, He can't shoot.. They should have taken someone else as shooting is the main skill you need in the NBA.

pfft

Using LeBron as some sort of justification for MKG is laughable. LeBron is bigger, stronger, and longer. He is a better ballhandler, passer, defender, rebounder and now post up player than MKG ever will be in his wildest dreams.

[Bleeding blue in 62]

Thanks Ziggy. Gilly's intensity was on display every night. He always got the other teams most dangerous wing or guard. We got spoiled by his ability to get a stop when we needed a stop. Not just defense either. I think he ended up with about 10 less offensive rebounds on the year than Anthony Davis. And, Gilly played a few less minutes than Davis. You want to get excited, check out the post game recap on our recent schedule. http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/96/year/2012/kentucky-wildcats. Just click on the score for the recap. I hope I'm not breaking any forum rules. Against ,I think Baylor in the elite 8, just before the game, Gilly goes up to coach Cal. Tells him to start Darius Miller instead of him. He told Cal we need to get Miller more involved. How many big-time freshmen would do that? During 1 of our games, he dislocates a shoulder. The dude jerks it in himself, and finishes the game like it never happened. I'm tell you all, he is going to be an allstar without a doubt in my mind. When he gets to where he can knockdown the outside shot at a high rate, I can see him being like Mike.

[millst2]

We were not talking about every aspect of a players game. Your ramblings were that MKG can not shoot the ball. My point was " Neither Can Lebron"

So lets make up our mind what we are debating.

[GoBobs]

Here is why the shooting thing has never given me any pause. He was terrible on jumpers but he still managed to average almost 50% from the floor overall. His fg % was better then Barnes or Beal and on par with T-Rob. So his inside scoring must be exceptional. Jump shots are great to spread the floor for other people, but an inside scoring/defense team will beat a jump shooting team all day if they don't defend.

Also he is already a reliable free throw shooter at 75%. lmao at the people who wanted Drummond, the guy couldn't even shoot 30% from the free throw line. Diop could give that guy a few tips lol

[Bleeding blue in 62]

Another thing UK will, in no doubt miss about Gilly, is leadership!!! Coach Cal noticed 1 of our players was coming in and working out and getting up shots really early in the mornings. Cal went in one morning and told him about Michael Jordan used to do that and called it the breakfast club. It was Gilly. The next thing we knew, he had about the whole team working out on their own before breakfast. I take it, they borrowed the name, breakfast club from Mike.

[JD West]

You guys are killing me with this MKG/ bad pick talk. You got a hell of a player. I've been watching him since his Jr. year of high school. The kid is not a great outside shooter, but respectable. He does need to work on his release though. What you did get is a super athlete who can rebound, defend, get to the rim, and will do whatever it takes to win. I've gotten to see some great athletes at UK lately, and with the exception of John Wall, MKG is the best transition player we've had. I dont watch the NBA much, but now that you guys drafted MKG, you've got a new fan in me. And to top it all off, he's a great kid.

[DashGlobal]

I think a guy like MKG would be great in the later lottery on a team with more pieces and one true star.

I think one is stretching it if they think MKG will be anything more than a 3rd option on a good team.

Most people want to draft a potential star / franchise player with the number 2 pick not a great glue guy.


You guys are killing me with this MKG/ bad pick talk. You got a hell of a player. I've been watching him since his Jr. year of high school. The kid is not a great outside shooter, but respectable. He does need to work on his release though. What you did get is a super athlete who can rebound, defend, get to the rim, and will do whatever it takes to win. I've gotten to see some great athletes at UK lately, and with the exception of John Wall, MKG is the best transition player we've had. I dont watch the NBA much, but now that you guys drafted MKG, you've got a new fan in me. And to top it all off, he's a great kid.

[SWedd523]

I think a guy like MKG would be great in the later lottery on a team with more pieces and one true star.

I think one is stretching it if they think MKG will be anything more than a 3rd option on a good team.

Most people want to draft a potential star / franchise player with the number 2 pick not a great glue guy.


Actually no. Most of the levelheaded people on here wanted to draft the best possible player. Only the numbnuts members, like yourself, got so attached to one player that any player taken other than him is a failure.

There was no clear #2 player... as much is agreed upon by most. So if Cho decided that MKG was the guy he wanted (and by all accounts, he had him pegged from the start), then a rational fan would deal with it. There's a reason why he's the one in full control of a multimillion dollar franchise and you're spouting off on the internet.

[DashGlobal]

Many people would agree TRob and Beal are/were better than MKG (right now atleast)

What one player did I get attached to? Only player I thought was complete was Lillard. There was many players I liked in this draft all the way till the early 2nd round.

When did being in control = success? There have been and will continue to be many inept people running multimillion dollar franchises.


Actually no. Most of the levelheaded people on here wanted to draft the best possible player. Only the numbnuts members, like yourself, got so attached to one player that any player taken other than him is a failure.

There was no clear #2 player... as much is agreed upon by most. So if Cho decided that MKG was the guy he wanted (and by all accounts, he had him pegged from the start), then a rational fan would deal with it. There's a reason why he's the one in full control of a multimillion dollar franchise and you're spouting off on the internet.

[SWedd523]

Many people would agree TRob and Beal are/were better than MKG (right now atleast)
We aren't going for right now.


What one player did I get attached to? Only player I thought was complete was Lillard. There was many players I liked in this draft all the way till the early 2nd round.
Wayne Ellington.


When did being in control = success? There have been and will continue to be many inept people running multimillion dollar franchises.
He's been successful thus far.

[DashGlobal]

We are tying to improve right now. If future upside was what we wanted than Drummond would have been the pick.

Wayne Ellington was in this draft?

Really? Didnt we get worse his first year?


We aren't going for right now.


Wayne Ellington.


He's been successful thus far.

[SWedd523]

We are tying to improve right now. If future upside was what we wanted than Drummond would have been the pick.
We're trying to rebuild. Playoffs, or anything close to it, is not in the cards.


Wayne Ellington was in this draft?
Unfortunately not


Really? Didnt we get worse his first year?
...................... seriously? We got worse on purpose.

[Bleeding blue in 62]

No way do I think Beal or T-Rob are better players than Gilly.I thought Charlotte management had both, Beal & Gilly to come in and work against each other before the draft. Surely they could tell by that workout who had more upside. We played Florida 3 times last year. I think you could tell who would be the best pro. Beal had 5 pts against us in 1 of the games. I'm not downing Beal at all. He's a great player. I just think Gilly will be a better pro. If you just look at pts scored, you could prolly compare the 2. But,someone has to play defense. Gilly will do that on every play.

[spectre]

Friday at work two guys who were Kentucky fans (don't follow NBA) made a point of coming up to me telling what a great "get" we got in MKG. 18 years old and he was the leader of that team...the glue guy. I was impressed as these guys never talk to me about the NBA, and both said that they were now going to follow the Bobcats.

18 years old...rookie. Comes in and takes the leadership role and wins the whole shooting match. That's pretty special.

[Ghost Kat]

We aren't going for right now.



It took me a while to wrap my brain around this idea. Like everyone else I want results now. My reason, I don't want to lose another basketball team. If we don't win, no one goes to the game, common sense right. But I'm finally starting to see them try, you know finally make an attempt, to build a good team.

[SJackson1]

http://www.shopbobcats.com/1st-Drafted-Palyer-adidas-Revolution-30-NBA-Replica-Charlotte-Bobcats-Jersey-_-74836486_PD.html

[spectre]

MKG is the Future (http://www.bobcatsbaseline.com/2012/mkg-is-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-24385)

Interesting perspective by Bobcats Baseline:


GM Rich Cho is a smart dude. President Rod Higgins is a smart dude.* They played the Wayne Gretzky by way of Steve Jobs card:
Don’t skate to where the puck is, skate to where it’s going. And judging from last month’s NBA Finals, the puck is going to an UBER-ATHLETIC place in which only the crazy-long, high of energy may roam.
Lebron James. Kevin Durant. Paul George. Luol Deng. Rudy Gay. Iggy. Danny Granger. Chris Bosh. Derrick Rose. John Wall.

Thomas Robinson only covers one of these guys on a good day. MKG can match up with ‘em all.

Robinson is an old-school bruiser who could’ve banged with Charles Barkley or Karl Malone back in the day. Meanwhile, this year’s Finals featured James and Durant playing the bulk of his team’s minutes at the four spot. I like Robinson but there’s no chance he’s checking either of those guys.

By adding Gilchrist to a squad which already includes Gerald Henderson (a near lockdown defender at both guard spots) and Bismack Biyombo (still developing but a defensive juggernaut in the making), the Bobcats have three players who could legitimately challenge for All-Defensive team in the near future.


more at the link.

[Ghost Kat]

http://www.shopbobcats.com/1st-Drafted-Palyer-adidas-Revolution-30-NBA-Replica-Charlotte-Bobcats-Jersey-_-74836486_PD.html

Why would I buy a Kemba Walker #15 for $60....did I miss something. What happened to giving rookie the 00 until they are assigned a number

Edit: Under Bobcats Merch

[Black]

Why would I buy a Kemba Walker #15 for $60....did I miss something

He changed numbers, if that's what you mean.

[SJackson1]

the MKG jersey looks sick !

[Ghost Kat]

He changed numbers, if that's what you mean.

Then yes, I clearly missed something. So Henderson has changed to I'm guessing.

[Hormel]

the MKG jersey looks sick !

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6aqf9IrE51rt73joo2_250.gif