UFA Ersan Ilyasova??

[Veteran_Picksetter]

25 years-old. 6'9'-6'10". Supposedly up to 235 lbs. now. Tremendous length. 9 boards a game in 28 minutes last year. Great 3-point shooter last year also.

Cho wants to add a big man and a big point guard(see Observer and common sense).

Don't know if Ersan would want to be here. Don't know if he would be worth it for us to give him what he'll command.

Thoughts??

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ersan-Ilyasova-254/

Ersan at his best:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxRH5BazttM

[Veteran_Picksetter]

I'm inclined to just keep losing with youth and build through the draft. But Ilyasova would make things a little more fun next year with those long range bombs.

If we start Kemba, MKG, Hendo, and Bismack, it'd be nice to have a another big who can shoot from deep(besides Mullens), and grab a few boards in the process.

[GoBobs]

An up and coming player for sure, but he will cost a lot. I don't like paying a guy big for one great season even if it looks like he is on the upswing. Unless we are committed to making the playoffs I would rather save the cap space.

[Mustachio]

An up and coming player for sure, but he will cost a lot. I don't like paying a guy big for one great season even if it looks like he is on the upswing. Unless we are committed to making the playoffs I would rather save the cap space.


I understand what you're saying, but young big men cost a lot, thats just how it is. This guy doesn't affect our process at all, we have to pay someone and he is an asset. If our process doesn't involve collecting talented, available big men, then I don't know that its that good of a process.

Its not like adding him is going to make us miss the lottery next year. But we can afford him and he is an asset, so why wouldn't we at least try to sign him?

[Scrapper1]

Yeah, i seen lots of games with him during his NBA career and he can absolutely light it up. The style of play that Dunlap plans to implement would suit him well.

Check this game out.. he had 31pts and 12rebs in a game this past March:


http://youtu.be/32rw6r39y9E

[Black]

I like Ilyasova, but I think he's going to get a pretty large contract. Nets, I'm looking at you. I think Hickson would be a better value.

[polarcat]

I think Ilyasova would be a solid get as we have a need at the 4 and would totally fit Dunlap's style. Ya gotta pay to receive, but at his age it wouldn't be clogging up any other players like if we went out for a PG (blocking Kemba's progress) or Hibbert (blocking Biyombo's progress). He could be another Dirk and who wouldn't want to bring in a Dirk-type of player if they could turn back the clocks to his earlier days and pick him up as a FA.

[ammofan]

Honestly I'd probably rather give Ersan a max deal then Eric Gordon. He has the talent and he doesn't have the injuries.

[Black]

Ilyasova’s tantalizing skills has the San Antonio Spurs, Milwaukee Bucks, Cleveland Cavaliers and Toronto Raptors intrigued according to Fred Kerber of the New York Post.

http://airalamo.com/2012/07/02/ersan-ilyasova-drawing-interest-from-spurs-bucks-cavs-raptors/

No surprise that there will be lots of competition for his services.

[Plowright]

I think this one is a pipe dream, we would have to overpay horribly to get him and I am not willing to do that

[Veteran_Picksetter]

I think this one is a pipe dream, we would have to overpay horribly to get him and I am not willing to do that


Our local writer buddy Rick Bonnell mentioned him as a possible target for us, not that that guarantees a whole lot. He seemed to be in the dark about what we were going to do with the draft......

[notdeadyet]

Talented player who's gonna attract some $$$. Unless we can unload a bloated contract, I doubt we're willing to overspend, and that's likely the only way he'd come here.

[SJackson1]

he was a very solid player last season for the Bucks and put up some fantastic numbers when he got the minutes.

[polarcat]

I wonder what he's asking for $$/length of contract? If we were supposedly ready to offer up 9M/yr to Dragic, I would think that we are willing to spend money on a promising young player that fills a need. At 25 years old and with some similarities to Dirk, maybe we drop an offer in? I'm okay with the other PF options out there, but long-term, Ilyasova could be a great addition..... much different than Hickson, Thompson and Jamison.

[BrotherDave]

Been a fan of his ever since he came into the league. He's probably tops on my FA list. Rebounds, plays adequate D, can shoot it, fairly athletic and can really shoot it. We'd finally have a match up nightmare at a position thanks to his size.

[SJackson1]

Ilyasova, Hickson or Jamison, we should target one of these players

[spectre]

I wonder what he's asking for $$/length of contract? If we were supposedly ready to offer up 9M/yr to Dragic, I would think that we are willing to spend money on a promising young player that fills a need. At 25 years old and with some similarities to Dirk, maybe we drop an offer in? I'm okay with the other PF options out there, but long-term, Ilyasova could be a great addition..... much different than Hickson, Thompson and Jamison.

Supposedly Milwaukee is talking 5 years with him but I've not seen any numbers. Speculation is 40+.

[polarcat]

Supposedly Milwaukee is talking 5 years with him but I've not seen any numbers. Speculation is 40+.

So, in theory it would be spot on for what Dragic received from PHX. Ilyasova seems interested in MIL and BK thus far, but if he were to consider us, it would be in the same ballpark as Dragic, but arguably fills a bigger void. Both have had about the same production and exposure thus far in their respective careers and are close to the same age (Ilyasova being younger). I don't know if we've inquired, but if we were financially comfortable with Dragic, then I wouldn't think we would be hurting if we offered it to Ilyasova.

[spectre]

I'm seeing on Milwaukee's board that they think they offered 8 per. Problem is Ersan doesn't want to go back to Milwaukee, so they're thinking the same amount would get him.

32/4? Worth the gamble?

[SWedd523]

Id offer him 8 per. I really wish we already had our Durant and this is just a mice to pair him with a great young player, but he has talent for sure. Just don't know if now is a good time to be adding players at that salary level

[spectre]

Id offer him 8 per. I really wish we already had our Durant and this is just a mice to pair him with a great young player, but he has talent for sure. Just don't know if now is a good time to be adding players at that salary level

Totally with you. A big part of me wants to just sit back and watch everyone else overpay and then see it bite them in the ass when the new CBA fully kicks in. I think it will be a very smart forward looking team who bides their time and keeps capspace.

[Scottley Crue]

Totally with you. A big part of me wants to just sit back and watch everyone else overpay and then see it bite them in the ass when the new CBA fully kicks in. I think it will be a very smart forward looking team who bides their time and keeps capspace.

I agree wholeheartedly. There's going to be some teams really up against it in a year or two after throwing money around this offseason. That new luxury tax (and the rules surrounding MLE and such) will make capspace so very valuable. If we hold steady, we'll be able to take on some good players that others will have to get rid of. Cho's already seen this though and I trust this is part of his strategy.

[spectre]

I agree wholeheartedly. There's going to be some teams really up against it in a year or two after throwing money around this offseason. That new luxury tax (and the rules surrounding MLE and such) will make capspace so very valuable. If we hold steady, we'll be able to take on some good players that others will have to get rid of. Cho's already seen this though and I trust this is part of his strategy.

The last estimate I've seen with just the roster moves they've already made has Brooklyn paying over 100 million in luxury taxes alone over the next 4 years.

Sure the owner can afford it...but because of the rules it's going to severely limit them being able to improve.

[dav7z]

Agreeded Cho is siting back watching teams go crazy with contracts . Its got to come back and bite them in the a$$.

[Black]

The Ersan Ilyasova Tour is about to begin.

Ilyasova, the Milwaukee Bucks talented young forward who is an unrestricted free agent, intends on meeting with representatives of several NBA teams over the next week.

“We plan on visiting three teams in the next week and maybe some after that,” said Tolga Tugsavul, one of Ilyasova’s representatives, in a telephone interview from Turkey. “We will be talking to some teams in Europe, too.”

Ilyasova is a coveted free agent. Just 25 years old, he is coming off a stellar season in which he averaged 13 points and 8.8 rebounds in just 27 minutes a game.

In the last 13 games, Ilyasova scored 16 or more points in eight of them. In that same span, he had eight games where he collected 10 or more rebounds.

Ilyasova raised eyebrows around the NBA with a monster game against Brooklyn, nee New Jersey. That’s when he scored 29 points and grabbed 25 rebounds.

The Bucks have presented Ilyasova with a guaranteed five-year contract, apparently between $7-8 million a year. That would make Ilyasova the second-highest paid player on the Bucks’ roster behind Monta Ellis, who’ll be paid $11 million this season.

However, at $8 million a season, Ilyasova would be paid just slightly more than backup guard Beno Udrih, who’ll be paid $7.8 next season. Udrih’s number paled in comparison to Ilyasova’s as he averaged a mere 5.9 points and 18 minutes a game as a non-starter.

http://journaltimes.com/sports/basketball/bucks-beat-ilyasova-free-agency-tour-set-to-begin/article_4e562cd0-c709-11e1-9fed-0019bb2963f4.html

[WAM9]

Although I agree with the sentiment that we should bide our time and wait to capitalize on our cap space but, at some point, you just have to look at the huge benefit of adding a 25 year old with this type of potential to the roster and make the move regardless of timing.

I would personally be for getting him in the $7-$8 million range. No question.

Has anyone seen our name mentioned though? I know the teams with that kind of cap space are dwindling, especially if he doesn't want to return to Milwaukee.

I still don't expect it.

[Whiz Kid]

Idk where he's going...but I do know he is a lock for anywhere other than here. We don't seem to be expressing any interest in anybody really (besides the Hometown Jamison). I hate it, but I think it means we're trying to save and clear for next year's free agency where there's more big names. I think that's the master plan right now and that's what I'm most looking forward to. They aren't trying to commit to anymore overpaying contracts.

[polarcat]

Idk where he's going...but I do know he is a lock for anywhere other than here. We don't seem to be expressing any interest in anybody really (besides the Hometown Jamison). I hate it, but I think it means we're trying to save and clear for next year's free agency where there's more big names. I think that's the master plan right now and that's what I'm most looking forward to. They aren't trying to commit to anymore overpaying contracts.

Eric Gordon, Dragic, Jamison, and Hickson have already been connected to us, so I wouldn't say we aren't expressing interest. I would love Ilyasova, especially if we miss on Jamison. Too young, too talented to not take a swing at especially at that price to Milwaukee.

[Whiz Kid]

Eric Gordon, Dragic, Jamison, and Hickson have already been connected to us, so I wouldn't say we aren't expressing interest. I would love Ilyasova, especially if we miss on Jamison. Too young, too talented to not take a swing at especially at that price to Milwaukee.

Gordon is NO or Pho. Dragic signed elsewhere (suns I think) I saw we contacted Hickson but haven't heard any other news since. Ilyasova is getting a decent amount of offers from other teams.

[Plowright]

Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO

Free agent forward Ersan Ilyasova will re-sign with Bucks, his agent tells @hoopshype.

that would make it 5-6 power forwards on the Bucks Roster... they must be looking to move one of them. I wonder if Tobias Harris is available, he didnt really crack the rotation last year

[captaincrunk]

Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO

Free agent forward Ersan Ilyasova will re-sign with Bucks, his agent tells @hoopshype.

that would make it 5-6 power forwards on the Bucks Roster... they must be looking to move one of them. I wonder if Tobias Harris is available, he didnt really crack the rotation last year

I'm interested in Tobias Harris on the Bucks as well as Royce White on the Rockets.