View Full Version : Bobcats Interested in Michael Beasley
Proudiddy
07-03-2012, 06:56 PM
Unrestricted free agent Michael Beasley has been receiving interest from a number of teams including the Charlotte Bobcats, Memphis Grizzlies, Los Angeles Lakers, Dallas Mavericks, Phoenix Suns and Detroit Pistons, according to sources close to the situation. All of these teams have been in contact with Beasley’s camp and expressed interest in acquiring the forward either through free agency or a sign-and-trade with the Minnesota Timberwolves.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-pm-paul-seems-commited-to-clippers
(would've added it to the sticky'd thread, but saw someone say we should make a thread for any legit news regarding each player as well)
Personally, I think this is stupid. Considering we could've already had him in for a "trial run," so to speak, when the Heat were dangling him for cap room around draft time a year or two ago... Whenever it was. SMH, so I don't know what to think about this.
Black
07-03-2012, 07:03 PM
I would have considered it before the draft, but now I don't know. Unless you plan on starting him at power forward, it wouldn't make a ton of sense to me.
Proudiddy
07-03-2012, 07:04 PM
I was thinking the same thing. We drafted two small forwards, and I think Beasley excels at the 3 more than the 4. Then again, he could provide that spacing that Dunlap wants at the 4.
Plowright
07-03-2012, 07:16 PM
Yeah not sure if we are the best fit for him or if he is the best fit for us. Sure he can play but...
isguros
07-03-2012, 07:23 PM
Don't like it eighter, but look at it from a bright side, with all these interested teams, there is only a little chance that he'll come to Charlotte.
Black
07-03-2012, 07:26 PM
I think he'll end up in Dallas. Now that they've struck out on Williams and likely Howard too, they will probably overpay to land someone like Beasley.
SWedd523
07-03-2012, 08:17 PM
Wow.
someone actually knows when a new thread needs to be opened. congratulations sir!
Also... Not interested. Not a Cho player and not a PF
Talent
07-03-2012, 08:19 PM
I don't think he ads more than TT does to our team. Unless we get someone to take TT from us I think he is one of those guys you take a flier on and if the price is right than you consider him.
dnbman
07-03-2012, 08:38 PM
Please no ;_;
I don't want him, but he's worth looking at a cheap 3 year deal. Kemba, Gordon/Henderson, MKG, and Beasley would be a lot on the attack. Beasley might work at the four if MKG could make up for the rebounding and overall D. We'd be a very small team though.
Twan's Kin
07-03-2012, 08:40 PM
It would be interesting to have Beasley and Delonte West on the same team.
bes628
07-03-2012, 08:45 PM
It would be interesting to have Beasley and Delonte West on the same team.
Idk if the world could handle that.
dnbman
07-03-2012, 08:54 PM
Idk if the world could handle that.
But I'll bet Lebron's mom could!!
ohara831
07-03-2012, 09:07 PM
If he can play the PF role and spread the floor, I'd rather have him than Jamison. I understand the argument for Veteran leadership, and Jamison is good for that. But Beasley is young with a high ceiling. He just needs to land somewhere where he can start, and keep himself out of trouble, and start to reclaim the name he had when he was drafted. And teams like the Bobcats dont draw high quality FA's right now, so we have to take a chance on a player who will sign for the right price and who has a high ceiling. Would it be a gamble? Heck yes it would, no doubt. Could it backfire? Yep. But it could be a steal that fills a void on the team IF the price is right. Only if the price is right.
ammofan
07-03-2012, 09:38 PM
GIMME!
I don't care what anyone says, I love B-Easy. I still believe he can be one of the league's better scorers, and on this team nothing is holding him back. He'll have plenty of shots in an up tempo offense and he shouldn't have an issue scoring 20+ ppg. I really believe that. He's also still on 23 so it's not like he's hit his ceiling or anything. He has plenty of stuff he can improve(obviously) and a coach that can TEACH him like Dunlap would really help out Beas.
He's listed at 6'10, 235 lbs by NBA.com. I have no problem at all with him at PF. We're gonna have enough rebounding from Bis, MKG, and even Kemba. Hendo helps too...our whole lineup can play defense. All Beasley would asked to do is score.
Scottley Crue
07-03-2012, 09:40 PM
If he can play the PF role and spread the floor, I'd rather have him than Jamison. I understand the argument for Veteran leadership, and Jamison is good for that. But Beasley is young with a high ceiling. He just needs to land somewhere where he can start, and keep himself out of trouble, and start to reclaim the name he had when he was drafted. And teams like the Bobcats dont draw high quality FA's right now, so we have to take a chance on a player who will sign for the right price and who has a high ceiling. Would it be a gamble? Heck yes it would, no doubt. Could it backfire? Yep. But it could be a steal that fills a void on the team IF the price is right. Only if the price is right.
I really do want Jamison because I think he's got just enough left in the tank and the vet leadership can't be discounted. However, if that doesn't happen, then this could be a worthwhile gamble. Dunlap wants attack basketball (the league's going that way, really) and Beasley can play the 4 in that kind of setup, I believe. With the way the league is becoming soooo athletic, the 4 spot isn't exactly what it used to be. Beasley, with head screwed on straight, could fit that well.
Black
07-03-2012, 09:46 PM
If Dunlap could get him to rebound like he did at K-State, I'd definitely be on board. We would have major question marks at the 4 if we signed him. Huge risk, potential huge reward.
Whiz Kid
07-03-2012, 09:53 PM
I'd like him here. He can fill the 4 spot, score down low, and also take it out to the perimeter. He'd fit the system we're going for. I'd buy in on him.
westbrook08
07-03-2012, 09:55 PM
I don't personally like beasley's attitude,but on on a team like the bobcats the opportunity to add a kid with a ceiling that high to play on the front line with biz and mkg is definitely worth a look.if silas was still the coach i would say hell no,but dunlap is known as a disciplinarian and when he was hired he mentioned melo,a.i., and j.r. smith as 3 guys that he had very good relationships with.Those guys are all notorious assholes.So you never know,it might work.I think mkg and kemba will take over that locker room before too long and could help keep him in check to a reasonable degree.
spectre
07-03-2012, 10:27 PM
We couldn't have had him for a trial run...we didn't have the capspace at the time.
He'll be too expensive, make us too small and take minutes away from MKG...so I'm not really interested.
Dlpz87
07-03-2012, 11:12 PM
From everything I've seen personally and from what I've heard from a friend who works alongside a lot of Wolves players/employees, he ain't worth it. His attitude can be pretty horrible and he's a literal Cosmonaut out there. I've seen Adelman yank Beasley right after putting him way too many times, because he would freelance and play iso for a brick or lolligag back on defense.
For someone who has the talent to be a dominant wing scorer, I just don't see him mentally putting in the effort to get there. Same goes for Anthony Randolph. However, I could be proven wrong, they're both pretty young still...
kitch0202
07-04-2012, 02:59 AM
While he has ability, he is the exact opposite of Kemba, Hendo, MKG & Biz in terms of personality. They're all hard working, no nonsense guys with their heads screwed on the right way. Beasley ... not so much.
People have said he's worth the risk because of his talent/ceiling and that maybe coach can keep him on the right path. He absolutely is not worth the risk, because if he can't be kept on the right path he has the potential to destabilise what we are building by disrupting our high character, young squad.
Not interested because of who he is and the potential trouble he'd bring.
Zoolander
07-04-2012, 03:12 AM
He's 23 year's old. Not saying that we should or shouldn't, but the guy is still a kid. Admittedly there are kids like MKG who have that sturdy family foundation at an early age, but not everyone has that. He was the #2 pick and he dominated in college. It was too easy for him. Maybe being along side MKG will improve his work ethic?
kitch0202
07-04-2012, 04:58 AM
He's 23 year's old. Not saying that we should or shouldn't, but the guy is still a kid. Admittedly there are kids like MKG who have that sturdy family foundation at an early age, but not everyone has that. He was the #2 pick and he dominated in college. It was too easy for him. Maybe being along side MKG will improve his work ethic?
You are of course correct. He's young, finding his feet in life and trying to come to terms with the game that once was all to easy for him and is now a challenge. It is quite possible that a change of scenery, being surrounded by positive influences and having a coach that is able to build relationships with his players could help him turn the corner and mature. But, there's at least an equal chance that he won't get it and will destabilise the team.
Not to mention he's a 3, who can do nothing more than spot-duty/small ball at the 4, and would further crowd that position (unless we see Jeff Taylor as a 2/swing man and are willing to/can switch/trade some pieces around).
BlockParty
07-04-2012, 09:24 AM
You are of course correct. He's young, finding his feet in life and trying to come to terms with the game that once was all to easy for him and is now a challenge. It is quite possible that a change of scenery, being surrounded by positive influences and having a coach that is able to build relationships with his players could help him turn the corner and mature. But, there's at least an equal chance that he won't get it and will destabilise the team.
Exactly...We already have a player with a similar path on the team...Tyrus Thomas....one headcase project at a time. Larry Brown thought he could change Thomas, he did for a couple of months, but I see Dunlap having less patience (and more teaching to be done with other players-we will be one of the youngest teams in the league.
notdeadyet
07-04-2012, 11:15 AM
IMO we're touching base with many different agents, as the majority of NBAers aren't gonna want to come to Charlotte, leaving us what's left. We may not get anything significant in FA; wouldn't surprise me.
Ordinarily I'd say NO WAY to Beasley, but it really comes down to the COACH's opinion on whether he can get enough positive basketball out of the guy to win games. No question Beasley is scary-talented basketball-wise. I could see him thriving as a 4 in a run-and-gun offense, maybe better than Tyrus. His problem to date has all been between the ears. Dunlap's call, really.
This from Doc Rivers on Beasley:
"Offensively, I've been a big believer in him, I just think he can score. I said it two years ago: I think one day he may lead the league in scoring. He has a Carmelo Anthony (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmelo_Anthony) ability to score the ball. He's a matchup problem every night, He has quickness and a shot at that size. That makes him tough to guard." —Doc Rivers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_Rivers)[40] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Beasley#cite_note-39)
polarcat
07-04-2012, 11:44 AM
If we can play him at the 4, I'm alright with it. I know the TT experiment is almost over and can be chalked up to a fail, but Beasley is a tad different. Beasley was a much better collegiate player than Thomas and isn't as wirey and inconsistent. Yes, the headcase part is there for both, but I'm not willing to cast a 23 year old player like Beasley off yet as not being an option. However, I'd prefer Hickson, Jamison and Thompson over him, and if Beasley's coming in as more of a 3/4 hybrid that cuts into MKG and Taylor's minutes, then I don't want him. We are pretty set at the 2 and 3, we need a taller more true PG and a serious PF with decent size. At 6'10", Beasley could be that fluid scoring atypical PF that the league is seeing more of, and I feel that Hendo, MKG and Biyombo's defense will allow Beasley and Kemba to light it up on the offensive end. Rather than look at it negatively and say that he has all of these issues, another view of it could be that he's already been on 2 teams in 4 years and heard the same negativity. Maybe Miami and Minnesota is where he learned his lessons and at this point can put his immaturity behind him, and grow into that dominant player that he is capable of being here with our young nucleus.
ohara831
07-04-2012, 12:03 PM
If we look at Beasley simply as a 3, then he would cut into the growth of MKG and I dont think anyone here wants that to happen. I would viewing him more as a PF. He is a little light, but he can play the position. And from an offensive point, he can step out and hit the outside shots, so it stretches out the Defense. That will be a huge benefit to both Hendo and MKG by clearing out the lane and allowing them to drive to the hoop. He is athletic which fits a running team, so I can see Coach thinking that we can be a bit undersized at the position but that is countered by all the things he can bring to the table. As said, this will only make sense if he is to be playing the 4 for us, and if the price is right.
polarcat
07-04-2012, 12:18 PM
I know highlight vids can make anyone look like a 5-time All-Star, but this video was put together from the year that he averaged 19/6 at 21 years old. He is an attacking and athletically gifted kid that thrives in the transition game up and down the court, which appears to be our approach under Dunlap. My favorite part is him getting back on D and blocking Kobe on the fast break. I doubt anyone is questioning his skills, but more the risk and supposed "cancer" attitude that is attached. We have to decide if the risk is worth the reward.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL6HrrZtiv8
stun704
07-04-2012, 01:17 PM
I don't want him, but he's worth looking at a cheap 3 year deal. Kemba, Gordon/Henderson, MKG, and Beasley would be a lot on the attack. Beasley might work at the four if MKG could make up for the rebounding and overall D. We'd be a very small team though.
Beasley is 6'10-6'11
I'd say lets bring him Hinrich and Jamison in. Beasley is exactly what our starting line up needs... Offense.
spectre
07-04-2012, 01:36 PM
6'8 1/4" in shoes back in '08 combine per DX.
ohara831
07-04-2012, 01:46 PM
6'8 1/4" in shoes back in '08 combine per DX.
He might have grown a tad since he was 18/19. I was going by Yahoo and ESPN who both have him at 6'10 and either 230 - 235 lbs. So he is likely a shade under 6'9 without shoes at this time. 6'9 at the tallest I would guess. Not ideal for a PF, I grant you that. There is a legitimate downside and risk. But I am thinking more in line with his ability to stretch the defense by being able to hit those jumpers and requiring the Defense to move out. Clearing the lane some will help Hendo and MKG a great deal with their ability to slash and take it to the rim. And he can rebound for us. I just see his upside as being worth the risk - assuming he signed for something reasonable. Maybe he takes less money because he knows he can start for Charlotte? Make a name for himself on this Contract (at only 23 years old), and he makes his big money on the next Contract.
SWedd523
07-04-2012, 03:01 PM
Beasley is just over 6'8 in shoes, you guys are being way too generous with his measurements
Ghost Kat
07-04-2012, 03:14 PM
So we are back to this again. Yeah two yrs ago I wanted him on this team, now, well we can do better.
SJackson1
07-04-2012, 03:23 PM
he would be a monster player for us
Scrapper1
07-04-2012, 04:20 PM
He is absolutely a scorer. But, i think he will land in Phoenix. Hard to find people to come play for a team that won 7 games out of 66.
Mustachio
07-04-2012, 04:25 PM
Beasley is just over 6'8 in shoes, you guys are being way too generous with his measurements
I dont care if we get him or not, im leaning towards no. I think if we are going to invest in a pf, it should be Ersan. Just as much potential but legit height and rebounding. But how are they being generous? if espn and nba.com say 6'10 what else are they supposed to put?
SWedd523
07-04-2012, 04:27 PM
They always give players another inch or two, so they lie. If i'm quoting height, i'm going by officially measured numbers.
ohara831
07-04-2012, 05:07 PM
They always give players another inch or two, so they lie. If i'm quoting height, i'm going by officially measured numbers.
No. Your officially measured numbers are conservatively inaccurate. ESPN, Yahoo and nba.com are correct. So there. :)
Adam42R
07-04-2012, 10:34 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Just going up online: Michael Beasley has committed to sign with Phoenix Suns on a three-year, $18 mil, sources close to situation tell ESPN
Black
07-04-2012, 10:39 PM
I'm going to be sick. That cheap? Would have been worth the gamble to throw a little more cash on that deal. Unreal.
ohara831
07-04-2012, 10:56 PM
That is a good signing for the Suns.
With all these other contract numbers that have been offered around the league, this seems like great value...unless he is a cancer.
dnbman
07-05-2012, 12:07 AM
With all these other contract numbers that have been offered around the league, this seems like great value...unless he is a cancer.
I think the team cancer thing is part of it, but, aside from the Landry Fields contract, I think we're going to see small deals in general, especially after a few of the main chips fall into place and teams aren't stock piling talent just to entice another player to come there.
BlockParty
07-05-2012, 07:44 AM
He's listed at 6'10, 235 lbs by NBA.com.
At 6'10"
Beasley is 6'10-6'11
6'8 1/4" in shoes back in '08 combine per DX.
He might have grown a tad since he was 18/19...... shade under 6'9 without shoes at this time.
Beasley is just over 6'8 in shoes, you guys are being way too generous with his measurements
If pot really does stunt your growth, with Beasley...he might be 6'2" now. In all seriousness though, hopefully he's kicked that vice, at least until his playing days are over.
captaincrunk
07-07-2012, 01:21 PM
Beasley is 7'2" on a pogo stick
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