Elton Brand Amnestied, Bobcats possibly Interested

[ND22]

The Sixers have amnestied Elton Brand, and the Bobcats could be interested:

http://robertogato.com/2012/07/06/elton-brand-and-antwan-jamison-charlotte-bobcats-free-agency-update/

So my question to everyone, do you take Brand or Jamison? Or both? Or neither?

[akaseinfeld]

Do Bobcats make a move for Brand?

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) Y! Sources: Philadelphia will use amnesty clause on Elton Brand, clearing way to sign Nick Young. http://tinyurl.com/82loc7k (http://t.co/86hnAfpt)


Rick Bonnell ‏@rick_bonnell (https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell)
A secondary waiver claim on Elton Brand (pay part of his guarantee) would be a bold move by the #Bobcats (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23Bobcats).


Rick Bonnell ‏@rick_bonnell (https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell)
Brand is represented by David Falk, Jordan's former agent, so there's a comfort level there. Brand is a total pro.

[Plowright]

Brand has been a victim of the amnesty by the 76ers. We have first dibs with:Bobcats, Hornets, Rockets, Cavs, Mavs, Suns, Blazers to claim him. Someone with good CAP knowledge help me out here. Would it be a bad move claiming him for just 1 year? It would basically be a rental, he could help if we miss out on Jamison, give us that veteran presence. He also has the same agent as Jordan did so there will be some connection there.

[bes628]

I think I would take Brand but idk, with him being at 18 mil per one season..or does he get a new contract if he signs with us ?

[Frosty06306]

Rick Bonnell ‏@rick_bonnell (https://twitter.com/#%21/rick_bonnell) A secondary waiver claim on Elton Brand (pay part of his guarantee) would be a bold move by the #Bobcats (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23Bobcats).


We wouldn't be on the hook for all 18 though. Between the two to make us legit better, Brand for sure. Jamison would still make more sense for the plan.

[Scottley Crue]

I think I would take Brand but idk, with him being at 18 mil per one season..or does he get a new contract if he signs with us ?

We wouldn't have to. Teams under the cap would bid for him under this waiver process. They could either put in a full waiver claim and take on his entire contract, as is. Or a partial bid can be put in and the Sixers would owe the difference. Everyone's friend Larry Coon lays it out better than I can below:

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q67

This is an interesting development. Since none of this can actually happen 'til the 11th, the 'Cats have plenty of time to get an answer from Jamison. They just got a nice veteran fallback option should Jamison go elsewhere. Not that they'd be guaranteed Brand, but he'd also fit the mold of what they're looking for vet-wise.

[SWedd523]

Threads merged.

Brand would be a better fit than Jamison and might even be cheaper. He's going to still get paid by Philly so we'd only cover a small portion of his contract. Great vet, won't make us much better, offers some low post scoring we could really use.

Also, keep in mind that MJ wanted to trade the pick that became Kwame for Brand way back in the day

I'd do it.

[dnbman]

Threads merged.

Brand would be a better fit than Jamison and might even be cheaper. He's going to still get paid by Philly so we'd only cover a small portion of his contract. Great vet, won't make us much better, offers some low post scoring we could really use.

Also, keep in mind that MJ wanted to trade the pick that became Kwame for Brand way back in the day

I'd do it.

Also, if you like veterans as tutors, Brand would be a great tutor for Biyombo, as he became a good rebounder and shot blocker with limited height.

I'd definitely like having Brand on the team. At the very least, he'd make our low post on both ends something half way respectable.

[Whiz Kid]

If we could manage to drop Tyrus and get both, I'd want that.(kinda old but whatever) But other than that, Brand.

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

At first I loved the idea of having Jamison come to Charlotte, but the more I think about it, the more I don't like it. With two SF's drafted and Tyrus, Biyombo and Mullens all able to play PF I don't see a need for him. For me Brand is better, he could play C if Cats go with a small line-up and he is far more efficient than Jamison. He also plays better defence than Jamison and overall in my opinion would be a better locker-room influence. He won an NBA sportsmanship award and ik it doesn't mean much but it points to him being a good guy. Also the last two seasons he's shot 50 and 46% from mid-range which means he could fit with Smack. Another thing he also has the girth to play with Mullens and Thomas whose post defence are both laughable.

[dnbman]

At first I loved the idea of having Jamison come to Charlotte, but the more I think about it, the more I don't like it. With two SF's drafted and Tyrus, Biyombo and Mullens all able to play PF I don't see a need for him. For me Brand is better, he could play C if Cats go with a small line-up and he is far more efficient than Jamison. He also plays better defence than Jamison and overall in my opinion would be a better locker-room influence. He won an NBA sportsmanship award and ik it doesn't mean much but it points to him being a good guy. Also the last two seasons he's shot 50 and 46% from mid-range which means he could fit with Smack. Another thing he also has the girth to play with Mullens and Thomas whose post defence are both laughable.

That being said, what bid would you make?

[superb1]

If we could manage to drop Tyrus and get both, I'd want that.(kinda old but whatever) But other than that, Brand.

Yeah, if we could drop TT or trade him to Philly rather than them amnestying Brand, I'll take both. Brand could mentor Biz and Mullens and split some time at PF and C while Jamison Split time at SF and PF with him mentoring MKG, Jeff and UPS. Hopefully they understand PT is needed for our young team and not to gripe about their own PT.

[Whiz Kid]

Yeah, if we could drop TT or trade him to Philly rather than them amnestying Brand, I'll take both. Brand could mentor Biz and Mullens and split some time at PF and C while Jamison Split time at SF and PF with him mentoring MKG, Jeff and UPS. Hopefully they understand PT is needed for our young team and not to gripe about their own PT.

Agreed. If We get both and drop Tyrus, I'd start brand at 4 and have him rotating 4 and 5, and have Jamison rotating in at 3 and 4. That would be a pretty nice rotation.

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

That being said, what bid would you make?
3 years 16mil

[spectre]

Does total dollar amount for the contract win out or total per year?

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

i'dd assume it would be total per year. "blind auction to claim an amnestied player by bidding the amount of the player's contract they're willing to eat."
from that i'd take it's total per year over duration of contract

[SWedd523]

In Brand's case, it's whoever is willing to pay the most up front.

[BlockParty]

Are we able to trade him during the length of his contract? If so, that makes the decision a little more complex. He would have value at the trade deadline to a contender (and he'd like us to honor that option I would assume). Just not sure how the amnesty works w/ trades to the 'acquiring team'. I do know he can't be traded/resigned back to Philly for 2 seasons.

[BlockParty]

‏@KBergCBS
League executives believe Dallas, a rare big-market team with cap room, is the odds-on favorite to pluck Elton Brand off the amnesty wire.

[SWedd523]

Are we able to trade him during the length of his contract? If so, that makes the decision a little more complex. He would have value at the trade deadline to a contender (and he'd like us to honor that option I would assume). Just not sure how the amnesty works w/ trades to the 'acquiring team'. I do know he can't be traded/resigned back to Philly for 2 seasons.
As long as it isn't back to Philly, then yes

[Black]

That's a really interesting point. He would most definitely have value at the deadline. I wonder if the front office is considering that.

[Scrapper1]

If the Mavs lose him to the Bobcats, Cuban will be on suicide watch. That would be final straw, lol. Im thinking about size.. our team is lacking it. We could use a good 6'10 pf and a big, 7ft center.. this team is undersized..but, between the two, i would prefer Brand. this free agent period is like a big soap opera..exciting, to say the least.

[TheBeagle]

To me it's about money and leadership/mentoring, not about winning. So whichever player between Brand and Antawn can be had cheaper for 2-3 years, that's who to go with, but I still prefer Antawn for the local ties.

[spectre]

I wonder how good of a teacher he'd be to Smack.

[superb1]

sounds like UNC vs. Duke