andrew bynum

[gm in training]

andrew bynum is a head case for the lakers and if they get howard,bynum said that he's not interested in staying with orlando . bynum at this point wants money and to be the focal point of a team ,so why not send him to charlotte. any top center will always automatically make any team a playoff team.



bobcats get:
andrew bynum
turk

lakers get:
dwight
q-rich

orlando gets:
kemba
artest expiring contract
lakers first round
horford

atlanta gets :
j-rich
bismack
charlotte 1st round
derrick brown



starting line-ups/backups

bobcats

dj/ gordon
hendo/gordon
turk/mkg
jamison /tt
bynum.mullens

lakers

nash/blake
kobe/eyenga
q-rich/eyenga
gasol/mcroberts
howard/hill

orlando

jameer/walker
jj redick/walker
artest/harper
davis/nicholson
horford/gustavo

atlanta

harris/teague
j-rich/lou williams
radmonavic/mcgrady
josh smith/i.johnson
bismack/collins



even though bynum is arrogant ,his talent is too muh to pass up. i honestly think bynum is the best center in the nba. he gives you everything that howard can do and can do alot that howard cant do . howard is more appeasing to the fans because he's charismatic and flashy but deep down he only offers a few more rebounds and blocks but he cannot get the guaranteed buckets like bynum can . without kobe and gasol bynum easily can avg 25-30 pts ,when howard u may see a drop in every category now that he's playing wit gasol ,nash,and kobe. turk and jamison offers the spacing that will be needed for bynum and hendo to operate the paint. it leaves a hole at back-up point but that may give gordon his own unit to operate or mkg will have to showcase his point-forward abilities.

the lakers finally get dwight howard, dwight is more of a better defensive player than bynum and will allow kobe and gasol to become more aggressive knowing they have a player who is less of a locker room distraction ,ball hungry,and more coach friendly .q-rich gives em a good defender,great rebounder,and good career 3 shooter as a starter.

orlando gets a future point guard in walker, they drop a significant amount of unwanted cap and get a all-star big man in return.

this trade finally allows josh smith to become the teams franchise player and recognition that for the last few years he's been yearning for. horford wasn't the legit center they was looking for , so they get bismack ,even though bismack is like the same height he is a true center who is only 19 which at this point can still grow 1-2 inches .j-rich is solid and he fills that sg role for the time-being.the 1st round pick from charlotte could be any where from 5-16 and gives the hawks a future.

although i don't see jordan committing to that amount of cap but i think its a logical move on everyone's part.

[dnbman]

I'm not ready to go after Bynum. He's only had one great season his entire career. I'd rather let someone else take a chance on him. It sounds like he may be headed to the Rockets in that trade, with picks and prospects going to Orlando.

[captaincrunk]

I don't think he'd stay here

[ND22]

Didn't Bynum say he wouldn't sign a max deal with Orlando if they traded him there? To me, that sounds like someone who isn't interested in playing just for the money. If he's not signing long term with Orlando, he's not signing long term with us.

[gm in training]

I'm not ready to go after Bynum. He's only had one great season his entire career. I'd rather let someone else take a chance on him. It sounds like he may be headed to the Rockets in that trade, with picks and prospects going to Orlando.

its not taking a chance if its the 2nd best center and the hardest position to find in all sports.there has been such an decline in centers the past decade that camby still gets a 3 year -12mil contract, darko got a 4 year 20 mil contract,kwame brown is till serviceable jamaal magloire made the all-star team one year, and the lakers turned down the carmelo trade last year.half of the center spots from all-star games are pf's playing big. this is a opportunity to better our team for the next 7-10 years, a definite no-brainer to pursue

[SWedd523]

First off, I don't think that deal is possible with us owing a pick to Chicago.

Second, that deal would never happen anyway

Third, no thanks.

[gm in training]

First off, I don't think that deal is possible with us owing a pick to Chicago.

Second, that deal would never happen anyway

Third, no thanks.

i just said a 1st rounder not what year and it could be detroits,also what moves do u think the cats are better off making ?

[dav7z]

First im not intrested in Bynum . Second i wouldn't be suprized if we could get him for just MKG . After the Lakers has all ready offered Gasol for MKG straight up . They might love giving up Bynum and his big contract for MKG .

[SWedd523]

Well our first can't be conveyed until 2 years after Chicago gets it, so they'd have to wait a long time.


And as for moves, I think they're better off making smart moves than one like this that could either be cap crippling (in the unlikely scenario he signs an extension to stay here) or completely idiotic (if we trade our best prospect in Bis and the only PG currently signed to our roster) for a one year rental of a known injury plagued headcase.

[captaincrunk]

i just said a 1st rounder not what year,also what moves do u think the cats are better off making ?

I honestly think we'd be better standing pat for the rest of this season in regards to moves, just because I don't think we'd make noise in the playoffs and he'd leave super soon.

[gm in training]

Well our first can't be conveyed until 2 years after Chicago gets it, so they'd have to wait a long time.


And as for moves, I think they're better off making smart moves than one like this that could either be cap crippling (in the unlikely scenario he signs an extension to stay here) or completely idiotic (if we trade our best prospect in Bis and the only PG currently signed to our roster) for a one year rental of a known injury plagued headcase.

bynum is only 24 and he is a all-nba 2nd teamer that doesn't make him a cap crippler? u trade prospects to get superstars in return alot like chris paul exchanged for aminu,1st rounder,gordon,kaman and the same carmelo for half of the knicks rosters , so how will trading kemba a point guard who isn't a point guard(not even a projected starter yet) and a center as raw as dwight howards first few years taking away from us. i forgot to mention the trade is contingent on whether he does sign like every other trade.let me remind u the lakers wouldn't trade bynum for ANTHONY , so that speaks volumes on what gm's(especially one who won 5 rings) think compared to the avg fan, who doesn't consider the the 2nd or 1b center in the lg to not be a smart move. if you have a problem with bynum as a person then say it or the contracts dont add up ,but to argue this as a basketball move that could better us , im not understanding.

[SWedd523]

bynum is only 24 and he is a all-nba 2nd teamer that doesn't make him a cap crippler? u trade prospects to get superstars in return alot like chris paul exchanged for aminu,1st rounder,gordon,kaman and the same carmelo for half of the knicks rosters , so how will trading kemba a point guard who isn't a point guard(not even a projected starter yet) and a center as raw as dwight howards first few years taking away from us. i forgot to mention the trade is contingent on whether he does sign like every other trade.let me remind u the lakers wouldn't trade bynum for ANTHONY , so that speaks volumes on what gm's(especially one who won 5 rings) think compared to the avg fan, who doesn't consider the the 2nd or 1b center in the lg to not be a smart move. if you have a problem with bynum as a person then say it or the contracts dont add up ,but to argue this as a basketball move that could better us , im not understanding.

He'll be a cap crippler as soon as he goes down with another injury or becomes disgruntled and whines his way to a trade someplace else when we can't surround him with talent.
Chris Paul and Melo both asked to be traded and wouldn't have resigned in their previous cities so they held more leverage than their respective teams. Bynum a) hasn't demanded a trade and b) hasn't said he wouldn't resign in LA. Completely different situations. And to even think he'd be willing to sign an extension here to play with a team featuring him, MKG, and..... yeah is beyond silly.

This has nothing to do with Bynum as a person. It's just a bad trade that makes no sense.

[westbrook08]

Unless the houston deal happens it's almost certain that bynum will be an unrestricted free agent next summer.So why would we want to obtain his bird rights and be forced to pay him 30 million more in the off season than he would otherwise get plus have to give up core pieces in the process.If he can stay healthy back to back years we can look at him in the off season.But any trade that derails what we have going right now and leaves us with turk,dj,and a 37 year old jamison starting is a giant pass for me.

[gm in training]

He'll be a cap crippler as soon as he goes down with another injury or becomes disgruntled and whines his way to a trade someplace else when we can't surround him with talent.
Chris Paul and Melo both asked to be traded and wouldn't have resigned in their previous cities so they held more leverage than their respective teams. Bynum a) hasn't demanded a trade and b) hasn't said he wouldn't resign in LA. Completely different situations. And to even think he'd be willing to sign an extension here to play with a team featuring him, MKG, and..... yeah is beyond silly.

This has nothing to do with Bynum as a person. It's just a bad trade that makes no sense. um in carmelo's case if your getting traded in mid-season during ur teams playoff run your a disgruntled player, dwight has put the magic through more shit than any player ,lebron publicly embarrassed the cavs (the decision special) and i dont see anybody not welcoming his services ,derrick fisher was traded to the rockets and refused to show up . in sports players ask to be traded or to be released ,just like management can cancel a contract or trade you after making a house purchase or enrolling your kids into school . this is what sports consist of and if bynum wants to be traded or becomes disgruntled then so be .sports and life in general is full of ppl who show favoritism ,ur no exception.

[gm in training]

Unless the houston deal happens it's almost certain that bynum will be an unrestricted free agent next summer.So why would we want to obtain his bird rights and be forced to pay him 30 million more in the off season than he would otherwise get plus have to give up core pieces in the process.If he can stay healthy back to back years we can look at him in the off season.But any trade that derails what we have going right now and leaves us with turk,dj,and a 37 year old jamison starting is a giant pass for me. like i said everything is contingent on if bynum signs just like any other sign and trade. not to mention chris paul didn't sign an extension yet

[BlockParty]

not to mention chris paul didn't sign an extension yet

And he's not going to until next offseason:

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2012-07-08/chris-paul-la-clippers-contract-extension-free-agent-mavericks-atlanta-hawks


Paul could have signed a three-year, $60 million extension with the Clippers this summer. If he waits until next year, that deal becomes five years, $108 million.

Chris Paul has opted not to sign a three-year contract extension with the Los Angeles Clippers for financial reasons. (AP Photo)
"I'll wait until next summer to decide everything," Paul told ESPNLosAngeles.com. "It's funny, ESPN doesn't put at the bottom of the ticker, like why you don't do the three-year. But I opted in for this year or I would've had the opportunity to do that again this summer."

Paul stresses that he hasn’t made up his mind about his future and said former GM Neil Olshey, who is now with the Portland Trail Blazers, “had a lot to do with me being here with the Clippers so I'm always going to be grateful to him for that.” Despite Olshey's departure, he sees a bright future for the franchise.

[captaincrunk]

um in carmelo's case if your getting traded in mid-season during ur teams playoff run your a disgruntled player, dwight has put the magic through more shit than any player ,lebron publicly embarrassed the cavs (the decision special) and i dont see anybody not welcoming his services ,derrick fisher was traded to the rockets and refused to show up . in sports players ask to be traded or to be released ,just like management can cancel a contract or trade you after making a house purchase or enrolling your kids into school . this is what sports consist of and if bynum wants to be traded or becomes disgruntled then so be .sports and life in general is full of ppl who show favoritism ,ur no exception.

Are you sure you read his post before responding? :)

He's saying it's a bad trade. Beyond the little quibbles over which player is more of a headcase. The end result would be bynum leaving us. Stick to the plan!

[westbrook08]

like i said everything is contingent on if bynum signs just like any other sign and trade. not to mention chris paul didn't sign an extension yet

The point is why would we even mess with bynum if we can bid on him in the offseason?He hasn't proven he can stay healthy and there is no reason to give up assets for him. And like i said before,why would we want to get his bird rights now and him to pay him 30 million extra and lose players?Makes no sense to me.

[gm in training]

Are you sure you read his post before responding? :)

He's saying it's a bad trade. Beyond the little quibbles over which player is more of a headcase. The end result would be bynum leaving us. Stick to the plan!
did you read wedd's first two sentences? but anyway i was just stating how much a opportunity this is for us to acquire a elite player ,even if this is far fetched i feel its something we snatch from under the lg the same way the nets got deron from the jazz.

[isguros]

I don't like this trade, but if this trade really occurs, I think instead of kemba and the first round pick, we could give Diop and Mullens.

[BETCATS]

We could use some three point shooting. I like Bynum for that reason alone.

[westbrook08]

We could use some three point shooting. I like Bynum for that reason alone.

You do realize we're talking about andrew bynum and not will bynum right? lol.

[SWedd523]

You do realize we're talking about andrew bynum and not will bynum right? lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GEbgtvOfr8

[captaincrunk]

You do realize we're talking about andrew bynum and not will bynum right? lol.

Andrew Bynum can shoot threes like a boss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX1As8ZP3Zo&feature=related

[westbrook08]

Andrew Bynum can shoot threes like a boss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX1As8ZP3Zo&feature=related

Um, yeah they should just trade kobe now! lol.

[Potato]

I would do that trade in a second. Like OP said, if you can find a dominant center you are set. Bynum is 24 and is unanimously the second best center in the NBA, really there's only 2 true dominant centers in the NBA and he's one of them. He's an idiot, he needs to mature but if we think we can resign him that's a no-brainer. Dunlap would be the perfect coach for him. That's not a realistic trade and will never happen, but I'd jizz buckets.

[adam187]

You do realize we're talking about andrew bynum and not will bynum right? lol.

http://dc363.4shared.com/img/9nzs15qt/s3/over_your_head.gif

[ND22]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GEbgtvOfr8

Quin Snyder looks like he's going to kill someone in that video. No surprise considering he's a serial killer.

[PDXKass]

does anyone else have the feeling that Bynum has already peaked? i just don't see him getting any better than he already has shown.

[captaincrunk]

does anyone else have the feeling that Bynum has already peaked? i just don't see him getting any better than he already has shown.

why would he need to get better?

[Black]

why would he need to get better?

He hasn't peaked, but even if he had, he's the second best center in the league.

[BlockParty]

I'll pass on Bynum all day long, his pay range vs production doesn't warrant special consideration. He may be the 2nd best center in the league, but he's already making $16.5M and will expect a raise in his next deal after this season.

I think Dunlap could improve him, but I don't think for a second he's a Dunlap type player. Bynum at various times in his career has earned descriptions of lazy, unmotivated, self-centered, immature...all things that would be in direct conflict with Dunlap's core beliefs/expectations. Bringing a project player in (Biz) makes sense on a rookie contract, or with Tyrus (an inherited commitment for Dunlap), inviting a new project (Bynum's attitude) in voluntarily on a Max contract doesn't make sense.