Summer League Games 2012

[BlockParty]

Figured the roster page was getting a little long and games will be starting on friday.

NBA has lowered Summer League Broadband pricing from $14.99 to $4.99 https://account.nba.com/summerleaguebroadband/

You can also watch a replay of the games if your schedule doesn't match up.

[ND22]

I believe all games are on NBA TV if you get that channel. But if its $4.99 for the whole league that is worth it.

[captaincrunk]

I believe all games are on NBA TV if you get that channel. But if its $4.99 for the whole league that is worth it.

it should be, even games broadcasted when NBA TV is doing other stuff (like watching the olympic team shower or whatever)

[Mustachio]

Yeah I'm just gonna watch them on NBA TV. They will be mostly live.

Something is seriously wrong with me. I am batshit crazy excited to watch a 7-59 team play in a series of exhibition games with only about a 1/4 of its roster.

[BlockParty]

Something is seriously wrong with me. I am batshit crazy excited to watch a 7-59 team play in a series of exhibition games with only about a 1/4 of its roster.

I'm in the same boat..it's irrational, but I'm about as excited about the upcoming season as I was post-trade deadline of the playoff season as we went into the playoff run.

[Proudiddy]

Something is seriously wrong with me. I am batshit crazy excited to watch a 7-59 team play in a series of exhibition games with only about a 1/4 of its roster.
It's not crazy, it's being a fan of this team. I'm right there with you man. Then again, some would consider remaining a fan of this team to be crazy after our history, lol. We're not crazy, were just masochists, that's all.

[ND22]

It's not crazy, it's being a fan of this team. I'm right there with you man. Then again, some would consider remaining a fan of this team to be crazy after our history, lol. We're not crazy, were just masochists, that's all.

I'm with you all, I have seriously planned my friday night tomorrow around their game. What the hell is wrong with me.

[Proudiddy]

LOL, seriously, I'm really excited to see how Kemba plays compared to last year with what Dunlap has been pushing in this short amount of time. I also want to see how MKG looks, just in a general sense, on the "pro level." Same with Taylor.

[Zoolander]

Holy crap! Anyone watching the summer league games? Now on NBA TV Adam Morrison is playing for the BKN nets?!

[superb1]

I'll wait until we play tomorrow night. I'll go out of my way to watch the team but I caught it if I can for any of the other teams

[SJackson1]

looking foward to see how we do and what plays Dunlap can setup for our offense

[isguros]

in about 25 hours it'll be the first time Kamba, MKG, and Bismack will play a competitive match together. I've been looking forward to this ever since draft night.

[TheBeagle]

I'm with the rest of y'all looking forward to the games....and you can't blame us. We're coming off a seven win season...the last image of Bobcats basketball we have in our heads (or at least mine) is being pounded by a mediocre Knicks team at home to a chorus of boos, Hornets chants, and Knicks cheers. This puts that misery in the rearview mirror. Plus, the most important players on our team going forward will be balling under Dunlap Nation!

Then again, we could all be nuts....we're Cats fans after all.

[Hormel]

10pm on a friday night? ugh

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

could anyone post the times of the games EST pls? would be a ton of help

[Hormel]

http://www.nba.com/summer-league/gameline/20120713/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

it's showing all games in est for me

[Black]

could anyone post the times of the games EST pls? would be a ton of help

July 13 10pm

July 15 8:30pm

July 17 10:30pm

July 19 10:30pm

July 20 6:30pm

[x2pacalypse]

fucking las vegas

[MKGforpresident]

I really hope MKG comes out and has a big game to give ESPN, NBA TV etc. something to talk about besides MJ and how bad we were last season... It would be great for him, Kemba, and Biz to play well so people can see we are actually young and talented. Really looking forward to Jeff Taylor too! 10 oclock babyyy

[Rosstafarian21]

Also pretty excited to see the new and hopefully improved Bobcats, I don't care for the Las Vegas start time does anyone have any idea why were not playing our summer league games in Orlando?

Other then that I've been catching bits and pieces of other summer league games and wow did Utah find a stud in Alec Burks, (i know summer league) but he dropped 31 other day.

[Jennings]

I'm am so jacked for the game tonight. So many things to look forward to. How will MKG play? Is his shot better? How does Jeffery Taylor do? How much has Kimba, Biz, and Mully improved? How does the new offence and defense look under Dunlap? What does Thomas Robinson look like? Wow, does that cover it all?? haha

[MKGforpresident]

I'm am so jacked for the game tonight. So many things to look forward to. How will MKG play? Is his shot better? How does Jeffery Taylor do? How much has Kimba, Biz, and Mully improved? How does the new offence and defense look under Dunlap? What does Thomas Robinson look like? Wow, does that cover it all?? haha

Man I hope Biz destroys T-Rob.. Really don't wanna see T-Rob bulling through the lane tonight.. Hope he gets a few shots sent into the stands.

[enigmaboy89]

Should be interesting to see how the young Bobcats players play tonight, but i definitely do not expect a good game.

[Plowright]

The LA Summer League is generally a higher standard, if you look at the Orlando league I think Harkless from the 76ers at 15 was the highest pick there. LA gives you a better gauge against better talent. I too am looking forward to the game! setting my alarm for 3am over here, watch it until 5, then leave for London at 8:30 for work! I fully expect MKG to struggle tonight, I really wouldn't be surprised if he did poorly. However, I expect Jeff Taylor to exceed expectations and really grab some attention.

[CableBoxCat]

The LA Summer League is generally a higher standard, if you look at the Orlando league I think Harkless from the 76ers at 15 was the highest pick there. LA gives you a better gauge against better talent.

Do you mean LA or LV? I don't think there is a summer league in Los Angeles. I also think the absence of a Top 14 pick in this year's Orlando league was more happenstance than a statement on the relative standards of the leagues. It's just a function of which teams end up playing where (and some play in both). For example, the last Orlando summer league featured the #2, 3, 9, & 10 picks.

I'm really looking forward to tonight's game too! This will be my first (sort of) Bobcats game since I decided to move to Charlotte. Probably won't be home to watch it live, but will be hitting up the DVR late night.

[Hormel]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23431365.jpg

[Frosty06306]

Is anybody paying the 5 dollars to watch it on broadband? I think that's my only offer. Also when I go back to Raleigh for next semester, what is the current situation for Bobcats games there? Yes I know that comment was off topic. Anyway I'll be paying the 5$ to watch online -_-

[Black]

Does anyone know anything about the other guys on our roster? Anyone worth keeping an eye on?

[dnbman]

Is anybody paying the 5 dollars to watch it on broadband? I think that's my only offer. Also when I go back to Raleigh for next semester, what is the current situation for Bobcats games there? Yes I know that comment was off topic. Anyway I'll be paying the 5$ to watch online -_-

I did it. I'd blow that on a drink and a snack.

By the way, Harrison Barnes and Klay Thompson would you like to know that LA's summer league team is not very good.

[Black]

I did it. I'd blow that on a drink and a snack.

By the way, Harrison Barnes and Klay Thompson would you like to know that LA's summer league team is not very good.

Well, LA doesn't really have any young talent.

[dnbman]

Well, LA doesn't really have any young talent.

Yeah, not a lot of guys on that team going to be playing the NBA.

[BlockParty]

Is anybody paying the 5 dollars to watch it on broadband? I think that's my only offer. Also when I go back to Raleigh for next semester, what is the current situation for Bobcats games there? Yes I know that comment was off topic. Anyway I'll be paying the 5$ to watch online -_-

$5 is paid...and the 'archive' portion seems like it will be well worth the money (so if you aren't able to stay up and watch the games, even if you have NBATV, spend the money and watch the games at your leisure-$1 a game is hard to beat).

Up once the Lakers get over 40 points for the game....Cats & Kings

MKG vs TRob

[CableBoxCat]

By the way, Harrison Barnes and Klay Thompson would you like to know that LA's summer league team is not very good.

Geez LA... Summer League should have a mercy rule.

[Woodsy23]

we still allowed to post streams?

[Frosty06306]

I paid the 5$, watched the LA - GS game and the Bobcats game is "not currently on air". What is this ****?!

[ncstamey]

first off lemme say that spin move layup by Kemba was INSANE... and they didn't even replay it. Glad I'm recording.

MKG is looking good. The announcers were all over T-Rob before the game and now they've forgotten he's even there.

[ncstamey]

also... F**K MULLENS. He's garbage and I get physically ill watching him shoot long range jumpers.

[ziggy]

join us in the chat room (http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/misc.php?do=cchatbox) if you'd like to chat through tonight's game.

[BlockParty]

Outstanding first game for the Dunlap era. Our draft picks were maybe the best players on the court (Kemba and TRob would be the next two).

Great win, Bismack needs to clean up his defense/fouls, Mullens needs to missed his first 5 jumpers in a practice gym somewhere and ....that's about all. Great start to the Summer League!

More important than the score or the win, is how well they seemed to play on defense, creating easy buckets, just like Dunlap said we would.

[Rosstafarian21]

Nice game last night by the cats, I'm really hoping everyone caught that dunk that MKG had last night.

If not check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6OOcy0lzwU

[Zoolander]

Picking up fellow first-rounder Thomas Robinson (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6618/thomas-robinson) at midcourt on a press, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6601/michael-kidd-gilchrist), the 2012 draft's No. 2 overall selection, smacked his hands together and barked at Robinson. New Bobcats head coach Mike Dunlap said Kidd-Gilchrist ended up on the burly power forward only because of rotations and his prized rookie's comfort guarding positions 1 through 4 & but not before Dunlap flashed a big grin and chuckle.

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-120713/daily-dime

[Black]

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-120713/daily-dime

From the same article:


While Bismack Biyombo largely hasn't been heard nationally since being selected last year, when he was really only buoyed by one strong performance at the Nike Hoop Summit, he put his deep baritone to use early and often. After the second unit forced a shot-clock violation, it was Biyombo (12 points, 6 rebounds) who led the bench in applauding them.

It's really great to see Biz trying to become a vocal leader.

[Scrapper1]

I love the duo of Taylor and MKG.. If Taylor keeps impressing like this, "Hendo" as you guys like to call him, may be losing his starting spot. Cause this man can damn sure play the 2. I cant express how much of a steal he is in the second round. I was saying the same on draft night.

Sidenote: Robinson had a crappy attitude during his interview.. was a jerk. Trob was trying too hard.. MKG let the game come to him..damn, only 18 too..wow. Pleased with our choice.

[Black]

The game replays at noon on NBATV.

[DashGlobal]

The game replays at noon on NBATV.

do you know of a link to stream it?

or websites that stream sports tv channels?

[Black]

do you know of a link to stream it?

or websites that stream sports tv channels?

No idea, sorry.

[Black]

Reminder that they play tonight. 8:30 eastern vs Cleveland on NBATV. No Irving unfortunately because his dumbass broke his hand punching a wall.

Can't wait to watch!

[Zoolander]

Anybody watching tonite?

[dnbman]

I will be. I'll join the chat about game start time.

[enigmaboy89]

Will check out the game tonight. Expect to see more great play from the young bobcats players.

[TheDorkLord]

Anybody watching tonite?

Yes.. ready for tonight's game, I watched the first game and never thought watching a summer league game would be that much fun. Of course it helps when we should be blowing out the other summer league teams.

[ammofan]

Yes.. ready for tonight's game, I watched the first game and never thought watching a summer league game would be that much fun. Of course it helps when we should be blowing out the other summer league teams.

SAME. We deserve to enjoy this tho.

[Bleeding blue in 62]

These summer league games have been so much fun to watch so far. Am I being really biased or does Gilly & Taylor look like the best duo of newcomers so far. I know I'm such a big Gilly fan that I may not be giving all of the rookies their fair due but I think Gilly may be the best all around player in Vegas this week.

[jholland321]

Not sure if anyone else is watching cause no one else is posting about the game but MKG is sitting this game out for a tweaked knee and we've only scored 8pts in the 1st quarter. Team doesn't look near as confident. Post if you're watching im feeling lonely lol.

[Bleeding blue in 62]

I'm watching Holland. I've been excited all day, couldn't wait for the game to start. Then when they started to tip off and said Gilly wasn't playing, I sorta lost some of my jive. They'll settle down and play a little better in a few.

[jholland321]

Nice to know someone else is watching haha, I cringe every time Mullens takes one of those deep shots, they're lucky to even draw iron. Looks like guys are over-driving and trying to do too much so far. Need to settle down a little.

[DashGlobal]

That was a pretty poor 1st half, esp on the offensive end.

Players still taking bad shots. No real flow or game plan on offense.

That with the fact MKG isnt playing sorta killed my buzz for this game.

[Scrapper1]

Kemba Walker is a poor shooter.. sheesh. No MKG this eve. Bobcats stink tonight

[DashGlobal]

Kemba Walker is a poor shooter.. sheesh. No MKG this eve. Bobcats stink tonight

I think Kemba is a decent mid range pull up shooter. He just takes ALOT of poor shots that dont help his % at all.

A good coach should be able to fix that....

[Bleeding blue in 62]

The young cats are still playing hard. I still look for them to win , even without Gilly playing.

[jholland321]

Mullens 0-6 from 3pt and 2-13 from the field...

[jholland321]

Anyone still watching?? Been pretty interesting the past 10 minutes, cats down 1 with 12.8 sec left, let's see who takes the last shot

[Bobcat4Ever]

Mullens 0-6 from 3pt and 2-13 from the field...

Why the hell is he shooting the 3?

[Bleeding blue in 62]

And this one belongs to the Bobcats!!!!!!

[Scrapper1]

Cats win...wow, what an ending. Bobcats should have won by 20 honestly..atrocious shooting. The Cavs a good team too. No MKG...and no jumpers.

[dnbman]

Why the hell is he shooting the 3?

He started 0-5 on Friday and then started making them. Mullens is a shooter, and shooters have to keep shooting.

Great game! If Kemba and Mullens shoot 40% it would have been a blowout.

They combined to be 5/30. With Taylor, 10/45. Some terrible shooting tonight.

Great d and hustle saved us. Dunlap's mantra.

[SJackson1]

Im very impressed with the defensive pressure from us, everyone is working hard for the team and you can tell they want to play for Dunlap

[DashGlobal]

Dunlap has got to install better bball IQ out there in regards to shot selection.

Nothing erks me more than guys that waste possessions and kill shooting % by taking poor low percentage shots.

Loved the defensive pressure though...

[dnbman]

Dunlap has got to install better bball IQ out there in regards to shot selection.

Nothing erks me more than guys that waste possessions and kill shooting % by taking poor low percentage shots.

Loved the defensive pressure though...

The shot selection wasn't that bad; we just weren't hitting a lot of open looks.

[DashGlobal]

The shot selection wasn't that bad; we just weren't hitting a lot of open looks.

I disagree. Alot of our shots were rushed. Kemba took alot of poor shots (spinning fade away off the top of my head). Little was in the flow of the game. Mully just jacks any and every 3 even with a defender on him.

[SJackson1]

Kemba had a bad shooting night but he plays hard right until the end and got a couple of steals and hit important free throws near the end to win us the game.

[Whiz Kid]

Mixture of bad shots and shots just not falling. But we caught a break and got it done so I'm happy. Cardiac Kemba, does it again.

[dnbman]

I disagree. Alot of our shots were rushed. Kemba took alot of poor shots (spinning fade away off the top of my head). Little was in the flow of the game. Mully just jacks any and every 3 even with a defender on him.

Cool.

Bonnell agrees with me.


Rick Bonnell @rick_bonnell Bobcats now shooting 4-of-24. Not getting bad looks.


Rick Bonnell @rick_bonnell @pastorjesse1397 they've trailed because they've missed a slew of open shots.

Kemba had some forced shots, for sure. But, I'm guessing he's being told to attack like that. As the last couple of minutes showed, he can be successful taking it to the rim and pulling up.

[DashGlobal]

I am gonna rewatch the game tomm and actually track every shot just to get an idea of the % of poor and good shots.

The good thing is even with poor shooting, if you play solid D and hustle you can still compete out there. But if we want to really get to the next level we have to maximize every possession.

[dnbman]

The good thing is even with poor shooting, if you play solid D and hustle you can still compete out there. But if we want to really get to the next level we have to maximize every possession.

True, but a lot of our shots tonight were just open looks that clanged, especially off of the front of the rim in the first half.

[DashGlobal]

Cool.

Bonnell agrees with me.





Kemba had some forced shots, for sure. But, I'm guessing he's being told to attack like that. As the last couple of minutes showed, he can be successful taking it to the rim and pulling up.

Dont really care about Bonnell or any figure head. I can see perfectly fine with my own eyes. Cant wait to rewatch the game tomm and breakdown every possession on offense. If the facts paint a diff picture Ill own up to it and digress.

And the key to your last comment was "pull up". Alot of times Kemba doesnt pull up and goes to far and forces a very tough shot or gets blocked.

All this can be fixed with a smart coach, so I am hoping Dunlap can get it done.

[SJackson1]

I thought Biyombo had a decent game aswell, getting to the free throw line and doing some nice moves in the paint

[dnbman]

Dont really care about Bonnell or any figure head. I can see perfectly fine with my own eyes.

Goes without saying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtUH2YSFlVU

Just adding what a guy sitting right next to the court thought.

[Bobcat4Ever]

He started 0-5 on Friday and then started making them. Mullens is a shooter, and shooters have to keep shooting.

Great game! If Kemba and Mullens shoot 40% it would have been a blowout.

They combined to be 5/30. With Taylor, 10/45. Some terrible shooting tonight.

Great d and hustle saved us. Dunlap's mantra.

No way you can tell me with a straight face Mulley should be shooting 3's

[DashGlobal]

No way you can tell me with a straight face Mulley should be shooting 3's

Mully is not a bad shooter at all. He just needs to cut back and take better shots.

[SJackson1]

im looking foward to the new season, we have a much better roster this season than last year. I think we should start with youth and have experience:

Kemba / Sessions
Henderson / Gordon
MKG / Taylor
Jamison / Mullens
Biyombo / Haywood

i like this lineup

[dnbman]

No way you can tell me with a straight face Mulley should be shooting 3's

Since you can't see me, I'm going to let Bill Murray be my stand-in.

http://www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/profiles//bill-murray/2578-bill-murray-pb.jpg

Mullens shoot 3s if he's open.

[SJackson1]

Mullens got some stick last season and rightly so for not giving 110% on the floor but you can see a difference this season

[gm in training]

today validates everything i've been saying. kemba isn't ready to start, his shot selection is very erratic and his court vision is very poor.tonite i've watched him miss like 4 cutters and a few open teammates .in both games kemba hasn't made any progress,and i know he's young and all but thats not an excuse to just start him . sessions will be the starter and he may be our future point because he is still 25 and he's a true point with good athleticism and good d. kemba might not ever start and if he does it won't last for long.another point of mines is that jeff taylor isn't a starter and may not even be in the rotation. jeff taylor may be a ok role player but some the ppl got him pegged as the future sg when he can't dribble or create his own shot. don't get me wrong he's a good shooter but thats where it ends ,he just a good shooter who may be used for spotting up and good d.

[SJackson1]

today validates everything i've been saying. kemba isn't ready to start, his shot selection is very erratic and his court vision is very poor.tonite i've watched him miss like 4 cutters and a few open teammates .in both games kemba hasn't made any progress,and i know he's young and all but thats not an excuse to just start him . sessions will be the starter and he may be our future point because he is still 25 and he's a true point with good athleticism and good d. kemba might not ever start and if he does it won't last for long.another point of mines is that jeff taylor isn't a starter and may not even be in the rotation. jeff taylor may be a ok role player but some the ppl got him pegged as the future sg when he can't dribble or create his own shot. don't get me wrong he's a good shooter but thats where it ends ,he just a good shooter who may be used for spotting up and good d.

i think we need to give him a bit more time to be honest, 2 summer league games can't decide on wheather he starts or not.

[DashGlobal]

today validates everything i've been saying. kemba isn't ready to start, his shot selection is very erratic and his court vision is very poor.tonite i've watched him miss like 4 cutters and a few open teammates .in both games kemba hasn't made any progress,and i know he's young and all but thats not an excuse to just start him . sessions will be the starter and he may be our future point because he is still 25 and he's a true point with good athleticism and good d. kemba might not ever start and if he does it won't last for long.another point of mines is that jeff taylor isn't a starter and may not even be in the rotation. jeff taylor may be a ok role player but some the ppl got him pegged as the future sg when he can't dribble or create his own shot. don't get me wrong he's a good shooter but thats where it ends ,he just a good shooter who may be used for spotting up and good d.

Kemba is the best option @ PG for us and has some upside. His shot selection can be fixed, and he has decent vision. He has a great handle and can beat his man off the dribble at will, I am not even sure why we use that many screens for him as he certainly doesnt need them. Sessions has no business starting in our rebuild and development mode. He is what he is which is a good backup PG.

Taylor is best suited at the SF position and will prove to be a great backup / situational role player. Crazy to think he wont be in our rotation. Good shooter, great defender, good rebounder.

[Black]

I didn't get to watch much of this one, but I checked the score occasionally. Very similar to last year judging by the numbers, but a win's a win. If MKG had played, it probably would have been a double digit win. Mullens looks like he needs to chill out. Unless Dunlap is telling him to shoot that much, he needs to seriously develop some post moves. Kemba got to the line a lot, which is promising.

Anyway, go Cats. Hopefully MKG will be back for the next one.

EDIT: Anyone feel like doing a brief breakdown of the key players?

[Whiz Kid]

today validates everything i've been saying. kemba isn't ready to start, his shot selection is very erratic and his court vision is very poor.tonite i've watched him miss like 4 cutters and a few open teammates .in both games kemba hasn't made any progress,and i know he's young and all but thats not an excuse to just start him . sessions will be the starter and he may be our future point because he is still 25 and he's a true point with good athleticism and good d. kemba might not ever start and if he does it won't last for long.another point of mines is that jeff taylor isn't a starter and may not even be in the rotation. jeff taylor may be a ok role player but some the ppl got him pegged as the future sg when he can't dribble or create his own shot. don't get me wrong he's a good shooter but thats where it ends ,he just a good shooter who may be used for spotting up and good d.

Where are you seeing that JT can't dribble or create his own shot? Just because he takes the simpler route with a pump fake and a side dribble or a dribble pull up instead of trying to make hero plays and make things complex. Plus he has the range to knock down things. He may very well become a starting SG for us in the future. And Kemba will start. Sessions is going to be the backup PG that keeps the tempo up with the second rotation. That really is a vital role. The backup PG must be able to keep things in check. But also, don't be surprised if you hear trade rumors on Sessions mid season.

[SWedd523]

today validates everything i've been saying. kemba isn't ready to start, his shot selection is very erratic and his court vision is very poor.tonite i've watched him miss like 4 cutters and a few open teammates .in both games kemba hasn't made any progress,and i know he's young and all but thats not an excuse to just start him . sessions will be the starter and he may be our future point because he is still 25 and he's a true point with good athleticism and good d. kemba might not ever start and if he does it won't last for long.another point of mines is that jeff taylor isn't a starter and may not even be in the rotation. jeff taylor may be a ok role player but some the ppl got him pegged as the future sg when he can't dribble or create his own shot. don't get me wrong he's a good shooter but thats where it ends ,he just a good shooter who may be used for spotting up and good d.

Today validates pretty much nothing about any of these players.
Sessions is a horrible defender.
Viking will almost definitely be in the rotation


They would all look much better if they had Hendo out there. The team needs their top 20 player

[gm in training]

Where are you seeing that JT can't dribble or create his own shot? Just because he takes the simpler route with a pump fake and a side dribble or a dribble pull up instead of trying to make hero plays and make things complex. Plus he has the range to knock down things. He may very well become a starting SG for us in the future. And Kemba will start. Sessions is going to be the backup PG that keeps the tempo up with the second rotation. That really is a vital role. The backup PG must be able to keep things in check. But also, don't be surprised if you hear trade rumors on Sessions mid season.
i watched him in college and in the summer games, i dont think one move is considered creating. ya see a 6'7 player who can hit the 3 and automatically think starter ,news flash everybody in the nba damn near shoots the 3 and is athletic but nobody has a mid or postgame . oj mayo can shoot the 3 and is athletic but he cant create nor play d and memphis didn't even attempt to tender him and he's still a free agent,nick young is only 27 and signed a 1-year deal because he's another high volume 3 chucking fool,dorrell wright shoots the 3 and is athletic and got bench for richard jefferson and then traded . basically this isn't a videogame you don't start somebody because he has a 83 three pointer or because his potential is high.im not against 3 point shooters or ppl who can stretch the floor but its when ppl glorify them to be more than what they are and thats specialist or role players.its very clear that kemba's game has not evolved since last year dispite how much u wanna believe in him and sessions isn't a backup he's a good starting player who haven't found a stable situation alot like ; chauncy billups in his early years, andre miller,marcus camby so just because this is sessions 5th team doesn't make him anyless because he can ball.

[BubbaGolf]

Everyone is reading way too much into only 2 summer league games. This team has a long way to go but is in a good position to get much better in the future. That is a lot more than we can say about this team two years ago. I think we should be happy about that. This is the 1st year of the future and I have complete faith in Rich Cho after the moves the Bobcats have made so far this off-season.

[gm in training]

i watched taylor in college and in the summer games, i dont think one move is considered creating. ya see a 6'7 player who can hit the 3 and automatically think starter ,news flash everybody in the nba damn near shoots the 3 and is athletic but nobody has a mid or postgame . oj mayo can shoot the 3 and is athletic but he cant create nor play d and memphis didn't even attempt to tender him and he's still a free agent,nick young is only 27 and signed a 1-year deal because he's another high volume 3 chucking fool,dorrell wright shoots the 3 and is athletic and got bench for richard jefferson and then traded . basically this isn't a videogame you don't start somebody because he has a 83 three pointer or because his potential is high.im not against 3 point shooters or ppl who can stretch the floor but its when ppl glorify them to be more than what they are and thats specialist or role players.its very clear that kemba's game has not evolved since last year dispite how much u wanna believe in him and sessions isn't a backup he's a good starting player who haven't found a stable situation alot like ; chauncy billups in his early years, andre miller,marcus camby so just because this is sessions 5th team doesn't make him anyless because he can ball.

[DashGlobal]

i watched taylor in college and in the summer games, i dont think one move is considered creating. ya see a 6'7 player who can hit the 3 and automatically think starter ,news flash everybody in the nba damn near shoots the 3 and is athletic but nobody has a mid or postgame . oj mayo can shoot the 3 and is athletic but he cant create nor play d and memphis didn't even attempt to tender him and he's still a free agent,nick young is only 27 and signed a 1-year deal because he's another high volume 3 chucking fool,dorrell wright shoots the 3 and is athletic and got bench for richard jefferson and then traded . basically this isn't a videogame you don't start somebody because he has a 83 three pointer or because his potential is high.im not against 3 point shooters or ppl who can stretch the floor but its when ppl glorify them to be more than what they are and thats specialist or role players.its very clear that kemba's game has not evolved since last year dispite how much u wanna believe in him and sessions isn't a backup he's a good starting player who haven't found a stable situation alot like ; chauncy billups in his early years, andre miller,marcus camby so just because this is sessions 5th team doesn't make him anyless because he can ball.

Sessions... a GOOD starting PG that has been in the league for years now who has only managed to average 10ppg and be bounced around teams?!? Let me get some of what your smoking bro.

Taylor is much more than just a shooter. He is an ATHLETIC 6'7 wing that is a great DEFENDER and a good REBOUNDER,

[Whiz Kid]

i watched taylor in college and in the summer games, i dont think one move is considered creating. ya see a 6'7 player who can hit the 3 and automatically think starter ,news flash everybody in the nba damn near shoots the 3 and is athletic but nobody has a mid or postgame . oj mayo can shoot the 3 and is athletic but he cant create nor play d and memphis didn't even attempt to tender him and he's still a free agent,nick young is only 27 and signed a 1-year deal because he's another high volume 3 chucking fool,dorrell wright shoots the 3 and is athletic and got bench for richard jefferson and then traded . basically this isn't a videogame you don't start somebody because he has a 83 three pointer or because his potential is high.im not against 3 point shooters or ppl who can stretch the floor but its when ppl glorify them to be more than what they are and thats specialist or role players.its very clear that kemba's game has not evolved since last year dispite how much u wanna believe in him and sessions isn't a backup he's a good starting player who haven't found a stable situation alot like ; chauncy billups in his early years, andre miller,marcus camby so just because this is sessions 5th team doesn't make him anyless because he can ball.

Sessions is nothing more than a good backup. I'm not sure what more you are seeing in him.

Simple, smart, yet still hard play beats making things complex. Jeff Taylor plays simple, smart and hard. He's doing more than you are getting credit for.

[BubbaGolf]

Sessions is nothing more than a good backup. I'm not sure what more you are seeing in him.

Simple, smart, yet still hard play beats making things complex. Jeff Taylor plays simple, smart and hard. He's doing more than you are getting credit for.

Agreed with you and @DashGlobal

[CTownSC]

Just now watching - its been a struggle - how the hell was that foul on Kemba

[Plowright]

i know we are all saying JT is a really good rebounder but the fact is in the first game I think he had maybe 1 or 2 rebounds? Yes he did really well this game (prob because we kept missing all our shots!) But lets just not pigeon hole people after two games

[ohara831]

Sessions is an above avg backup. And that is what we wanted and got. Someone who will be there to back up Kemba. We were not hunting for a new starter. They got exactly what they wanted when they got Sessions.

Jeff Taylor will be an important player for the Cats this year. Not just his minutes off the bench. He will have spot starts due to injury, illness, etc... Good shooter, good defense, and plays with the hustle we need.

Cats had a bad year last year. But there is no reason to be Negative Nancy during Summer League. Hey, we are 2-0. Can't you find anything to write that is positive?

[Scrapper1]

There were easy shots missing.. but they made terrible shot selections most often.If youre not a 3pt shooter and youre open at the arc, that doesnt make it a good look...YOU CANT SHOOT THE 3, lol. Kemba needs to develop a better basketball IQ. He was terrible... he did make the go ahead basket to win the game (and free throws). Gilly was missed this eve. Sometimes, you just gotta comprehend when somethings not working for you.. Kemba should spend entire summer shooting. Wish he was more of a distributor..but, hey..

[adam187]

why do people seem surprised that mullens is shooting so much? he shot just as much last year in real NBA games, whether he was hot or cold.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mulleby01/gamelog/2012/#pgl_basic::11

and, partially because it's summer league, i'm glad he's shooting 3s. he shoots so many damn long 2s, it can be really frustrating. IF he can just stretch his range back 2 feet, it would make his game so much more effective. let him shoot the 3 in summer league; if he can't start knocking em down consistently, drop it by the time the season rolls around and try again next summer.

[DashGlobal]

why do people seem surprised that mullens is shooting so much? he shot just as much last year in real NBA games, whether he was hot or cold.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mulleby01/gamelog/2012/#pgl_basic::11

and, partially because it's summer league, i'm glad he's shooting 3s. he shoots so many damn long 2s, it can be really frustrating. IF he can just stretch his range back 2 feet, it would make his game so much more effective. let him shoot the 3 in summer league; if he can't start knocking em down consistently, drop it by the time the season rolls around and try again next summer.

The problem is he will never shoot consistently by FORCING CONTESTED 3's.

The only thing that will come of that is a BAD HABIT.

[spectre]

I think Kemba is thinking way too much when he's shooting and I can't blame him for that. As much confidence as that boy exudes it has to be shaken by now. It's just something he has to work himself out of; thankfully I think we have the perfect coach to help him do it.

Taking that out (and I agree that's a BIG part to take out) he's looked stellar so far.

Mullens taking 3s has to be coming from Dunlap. He's the main one who shot those long 2s last year and Dunlap mentioned specifically about moving that out a little for the extra point. I'd love to see him inside more though.

[SWedd523]

The problem is he will never shoot consistently by FORCING CONTESTED 3's.

The only thing that will come of that is a BAD HABIT.
typing in caps doesn't make your point any better.

[DashGlobal]

typing in caps doesn't make your point any better.

I dont remb saying it did.

Thanks though ;)

[SWedd523]

any time sweet cheeks, just lookin' out for ya

[anton273]

I think Haywood will start at centre if we aquire Jamieson or another PF, Mullins will become an off the bench spark along with Gordon and Taylor... Those 3 can just jack 3's for the 10-15 mins they play...

[Black]

Reminder: Charlotte VS Minnesota tonight at 10:30 eastern on NBATV.

[Plowright]

The worrying thing is that Kemba said in an interview in Vegas his shot is all he has been working on over summer... if this is a shot that has been worked on... its looking bleak

[DashGlobal]

The worrying thing is that Kemba said in an interview in Vegas his shot is all he has been working on over summer... if this is a shot that has been worked on... its looking bleak

I don't put much faith in players suddenly becoming good 3 point shooters. 20+ year old guys either have it or they dont. It takes a lot of touch and muscle memory that is hard to wire down late in the game. Sure there are a few exceptions but I am not holding my breathe.

For now, id like Kemba to not shoot 3's and taylor his game to mid range jumpers and working off scoring and dishing in the lane.

[dnbman]

I don't put much faith in players suddenly becoming good 3 point shooters. 20+ year old guys either have it or they dont. It takes a lot of touch and muscle memory that is hard to wire down late in the game. Sure there are a few exceptions but I am not holding my breathe.

Every comment on the subject from a professional coach or gm has said otherwise, though I know how you feel about figure heads.

Outside shooting is something that a lot of players have developed later in their careers, but there's a difference between taking a lot of shots to practice and actually working on your shot in an instructive way. If guys are just practicing their bad technique, then they're not going to get better. Instruction is key.

[DashGlobal]

Every comment on the subject from a professional coach or gm has said otherwise, though I know how you feel about figure heads.

Outside shooting is something that a lot of players have developed later in their careers, but there's a difference between taking a lot of shots to practice and actually working on your shot in an instructive way. If guys are just practicing their bad technique, then they're not going to get better. Instruction is key.

You are certainly correct about players that "practice" and work on their shooting with the same bad form / technique. Although there is more than one way to skin a cat so form / technique isnt the end all be all.

I am praying someone re-tools MKG's jumpshot. That double hitch is painful to watch.

[anton273]

Anyone got extended highlights of both bobcats games? Or just MKG highlights?

Nba 1.41min showing was poor!

[BlockParty]

@NBASummerLeague
Sources say Michael Jordan will be at the #NBASummerLeague for tonight's @bobcats game

[SJackson1]

any news on MKG playing tonight ?

[Black]

any news on MKG playing tonight ?

Rick Bonnell ‏@rick_bonnell
Not official yet, but it appears Kidd-Gilchrist will not play tonight vs. Wolves.

[DashGlobal]

Rick Bonnell ‏@rick_bonnell
Not official yet, but it appears Kidd-Gilchrist will not play tonight vs. Wolves.

WTF. That is some BS

[Black]

Everybody remember to check out the chat if you're watching.

[bes628]

We're not exciting at all without mkg on the floor.

[DashGlobal]

There is no way MKG played the whole game just fine then had this many days and cant suite up tonight!

Im pissed

[DashGlobal]

Taylor splitting that double team was a thing of beauty. Maybe his handle is better than I thought.

[Charlotteisthebest]

Mullens goes for 33 and bobcats get another win baby!! Only summer but still loads of fun to watch a W ;)

MKG should be back in the starting line-up for Thursday nights game as the Bobcats try to go 4-0!!!

[DashGlobal]

A big difference when Mully isnt forcing a ton of 3's and plays within the flow of the game.

[polarcat]

I saw an entirely different Mullens last night. I watched him actually bang inside a lot, draw contact and use his height at both ends of the floor. It 'tis only SL, but good players do dominate in these games, and Mully has done just that in 3 games. Maybe we stole ourselves a late-blooming rotational big from OKC. Regardless, I like what I'm seeing from our young guns.... Kemba, Biz and Mullens. Now, if I can just get some more MKG in my life, all will be well..... though I do like the precautionary measures we're taking with his knee.

[SJackson1]

he played a great game yesrerday and showed just what he can do when he's on form.

[Zoolander]

MKG playing tonight?

[Jennings]

MKG playing tonight?

Man I hope so. I'm so excited to see him play again.

[Charlotteisthebest]

Man I hope so. I'm so excited to see him play again.


Me too!!!!!

[Chef]

that is the key thing that determines if my dvr records the whole game or not.

[Whiz Kid]

MKG sitting this one out as well according to the announcers.

[Scrapper1]

MKG will not be playing tonight.

[ammofan]

I iz upsetttttt

[Chef]

MKG will not be playing tonight.

my dvr will not record

[DashGlobal]

I mean come on! This is getting ridiculous. If he is fine to play let him play! Wtf

[Black]

Another nice win. Kemba played great.

[Charlotteisthebest]

4-0 babbyyyyy!!!!!!!!! Get your brooms out for the game tomorrow guys, we will be going for the summer league sweep, maybe MKG gets to play as well!!!!

Go Bobcats!!!!!

[dnbman]

'Tis the season.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_PDns23RWY

[DashGlobal]

4-0 babbyyyyy!!!!!!!!! Get your brooms out for the game tomorrow guys, we will be going for the summer league sweep, maybe MKG gets to play as well!!!!

Go Bobcats!!!!!

I doubt he will play. The FO is being way to cautious

[ALong13]

I must be the only one not having a problem with MKG playing, I wasn't for his selection, but if he is aching in the slightest I'm not going to risk further aggravation in the most meaningless part of the year. Kidd can keep practicing and be ready for camp, I'd rather be safe than sorry.

[kitch0202]

I doubt he will play. The FO is being way to cautious

Sorry, but none of us know to what extent he is injured. Is his knee swelling after practice? ... we don't know. Does he feel a slight hesitancy when he looks to explode off the knee? ... we don't know.

They (front office, coaches etc.) want him to play so to criticise them for being overcautious with an injury none of us know the extent of does seem a bit puerile. I share your frustration that he isn't playing, but if he's good to go they'll play him, if there's any doubt they won't.

[Plowright]

If they didn't play him for the last 3 games, not sure why they would risk it with the last game, it doesnt make sense for them to really. However, I really want them to as I jsut want to see this kid play! Part of me thinks it is a good thing though, it has kept him out of the national media and there has been nobody bashing him or his jumper. However, again we have a rookie who has basically had no summer league. I just hope it doesn't hurt his development too much and he is still absorbing like a sponge in practice

[Chef]

I must be the only one not having a problem with MKG playing, I wasn't for his selection, but if he is aching in the slightest I'm not going to risk further aggravation in the most meaningless part of the year. Kidd can keep practicing and be ready for camp, I'd rather be safe than sorry.

totally agree, i just have no interest in watching any of the games especially at 1030 if he isn't playing.

[cltblkhscoach]

Today's game is at 6:30 pm guys. And he's been practicing, so outside of just enjoying him play I'm not really too concerned about it. I'll just replay the DVR until preseason, lol.

[BlockParty]

MKG is not hurt, he missed one practice due to his knee and that was precautionary. The Bobcats are probably sitting him to keep him from being another Greg Oden/Blake Griffin rookie season injury statistic, especially the way he plays (full speed with reckless abandon) versus competition that will mostly be overseas or in the D-league at the start of the NBA season.

If there was any sign of a real problem, he would've been flown out of Vegas for additional tests...I'd love to see him play, but I'd rather see that in November then July.

[Scrapper1]

I think that they are doing the right thing. No need to risk the health of the future face of your franchise on summer league games. I am interested in seeing him play like everyone else.. but, health first. I honestly think its been good for the team.. they are winning without him and others are displaying their abilities and potential.

One more thing... am i the only one that thinks Cory Higgins wouldn't have a NBA roster spot if his dad wasn't who he is? Never good to mix business and family..

[Charlotteisthebest]

Going for 5-0 in the summer today guys, Go Bobcats!!

[spectre]

The game is on at 6:30 Eastern tonight, checked the guide to make sure.

[DashGlobal]

where the heck is Taylor?!?

[ammofan]

where the heck is Taylor?!?

Hurt. Right groin.

[Plowright]

Hurt. Right groin.

Code for not worth playing him in case he gets injured