Exclusive: The #Bobcats are re-engaged in acquiring Kris Humphries

[Black]

Rick Bonnell ‏@rick_bonnell
Exclusive: The #Bobcats are re-engaged in acquiring Kris Humphries to upgrade their power forward spot, an informed source tells Observer.

As always, if the price is right...

[SJackson1]

i think he wouls be a great addition to our roster, a walking double double !

[akaseinfeld]

Would that mean no Jamison?

[SWedd523]

Something like this is exactly why we didn't trade DJ for someone like Hansbrough. We wouldn't have any more cap space and wouldn't be able to go after a guy like Jamison, Haywood, or Humphries.

[spectre]

Something like this is exactly why we didn't trade DJ for someone like Hansbrough. We wouldn't have any more cap space and wouldn't be able to go after a guy like Jamison, Haywood, or Humphries.

Aw c'mon! It's much more fun to bitch and moan about us not doing anything!

[Black]

John Hollinger ‏@johnhollinger
Follow up to @rick_bonnell report: Charlotte would have to amnesty Gana Diop to fit Humphries at any plausible salary.

Good riddance.

[Mustachio]

Something like this is exactly why we didn't trade DJ for someone like Hansbrough. We wouldn't have any more cap space and wouldn't be able to go after a guy like Jamison, Haywood, or Humphries.


I have no idea why and can't back it up. but I actually sat courtside for the nets games last year. Of all the people on the court I was most impressed by Humphries. For one he's waaay bigger than I thought, hustles, and is productive.

[SJackson1]

Diop is a waste off space

[dnbman]

Tough one. Diop makes the most sense for now, but you hate being stuck with TT for three years.

[akaseinfeld]

John Hollinger (http://twitter.com/johnhollinger): Nets would likely try to do S&T, give themselves a trade exception to use for Jamison or for later. about 9 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/johnhollinger/statuses/223536663782096896)

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz20RsqcXgB

[ammofan]

Ohhh helllllll yeah! Lets get ittttt

[westbrook08]

This is interesting on alot of levels because of what it good mean.Did we really want humphries all along and we're just holding out for more to rob the nets? Are we doing this because if we sign him outright it would kill any trade for howard at the deadline and we wanna make the nets pony up an extra player(brooks),take one of our bad contracts or cough up a draft pic right now? Do we see this as as oppourtunity to get humphries locked up at a cheaper price,like 3 years at 7 mil per,now that his agent has no leverage with the trade? Or could we be trying to force jamison's hand quicker now that other teams are closing in on him? I honestly have no idea.Very interesting!

[Proudiddy]

How would it not give us any cap space if we took back salary in a DJ trade? I thought we were currently below the cap floor?

So we didn't engage in a S&T with the Pacers and get anything back, but you guys are cool with the Nets stripping us of assets to sign one-year wonder Kris Kardashian Humphries?

[skratch]

How much improved will we be with Humphris? i still want us to have a good shot at a top 3 pick next year at one of those bigs

[Potato]

This is interesting on alot of levels because of what it good mean.Did we really want humphries all along and we're just holding out for more to rob the nets? Are we doing this because if we sign him outright it would kill any trade for howard at the deadline and we wanna make the nets pony up an extra player(brooks),take one of our bad contracts or cough up a draft pic right now? Do we see this as as oppourtunity to get humphries locked up at a cheaper price,like 3 years at 7 mil per,now that his agent has no leverage with the trade? Or could we be trying to force jamison's hand quicker now that other teams are closing in on him? I honestly have no idea.Very interesting!in my opinion it means we're trying to put a package together for lebron james

[SWedd523]

Option 1: rescind Augustin... then sign Sessions and Humphries

Option 2: trade Augustin for Hansbrough and sign Sessions



I'll take option 1 all day

[Proudiddy]

But where are these limitations coming from? I thought we were below the cap floor?

And it didn't have to be Hansbrough, it could've been a 2nd round pick, or Hans and Stephenson (if there was a trade to be made).

Secondly, they aren't saying we'll just sign him outright. The Nets hold the leverage because he's a RFA. Like we should've had with DJ. The Nets want to get something out of us for him.

[SWedd523]

How would it not give us any cap space if we took back salary in a DJ trade? I thought we were currently below the cap floor?

So we didn't engage in a S&T with the Pacers and get anything back, but you guys are cool with the Nets stripping us of assets to sign one-year wonder Kris Kardashian Humphries?


Signing MKG and Taylor puts us around $50 million

The cap is $58 million

Sign Sessions for, say, $4 million

leaves ~$4 million left over to sign Jamison/Haywood/Humphries


-----------------or----------------

Trade DJ for Hansbrough ($4 mil)

Sign Sessions for $4 million

= no cap space left over



And we'd be signing Hump for pure cap space (after amnestying Diop), so they wouldn't be stripping us of any assets. (other than cap)

[spectre]

People really need to stop worrying about the salary floor and esp. for this year. No doubt whatever Session got we are over it.

Say Sessions got around 4 we should be in the 54 range so yeah, to give Hump 6 or so we'd have to amnesty Gana. I think that's about the best we should expect out of the FO as there was really no way we'd amnesty Tyrus.

[BallDontLie]

Option 1: rescind Augustin... then sign Sessions and Humphries

Option 2: trade Augustin for Hansbrough and sign Sessions



I'll take option 1 all day

If we get that deal done I will be happy but if not it was a bad move to let DJ walk and bring in old players to a rebuild.

[SWedd523]

But where are these limitations coming from? I thought we were below the cap floor?


Now do you see why I think it's a smart move to not trade DJ and instead rescind his QO?

We wouldn't have any space leftover at all to even think of signing any vets (without using the amnesty). Wouldn't be able to go after Jamison, Haywood, or any other guy because we tied it all up in Hansbrough.

Now we have an extra $4 million to play around with that could either be used for a cheaper vet or combined with the amnesty to get us a much better player.

[spectre]

BTW...unless it changed in the new CBA the only penalty for being under the cap floor is paying the difference in equal shares to the current guys on the roster. No extra penalty...so it's not a big deal.

The team also has to the last day of the season to get over that floor which would be REALLY easy to do.

[JGib23]

The Nets were interested in Tyrus when was a RFA. Wouldn't it be great to land Humphries for Tyrus... The won't have cap space to add anyone for a few years anyway.


I know the chance of this happening is less than 1% but, if anybody would do it, it would be Billy King

[Proudiddy]

Now do you see why I think it's a smart move to not trade DJ and instead rescind his QO?

We wouldn't have any space leftover at all to even think of signing any vets (without using the amnesty). Wouldn't be able to go after Jamison, Haywood, or any other guy because we tied it all up in Hansbrough.

Now we have an extra $4 million to play around with that could either be used for a cheaper vet or combined with the amnesty to get us a much better player.

No I haven't checked any of those sites recently but last I heard, at the start of FA we were below the cap floor and even once we got there it was like 20 mil under the cap ceiling.

How would we be limited in who we signed.

And to be honest, I'm not a Hansbrough fan, but I'd rather take him at 4 mil and possibly Stephenson, or even a 2nd rounder, than commit to Humphries for a multi-year deal at 5+.

[westbrook08]

If we could sign humphries,amnesty gana,bring in haywood cheap(cause he's already getting his money anyway), and then take a flyer on greg oden and sign him dirt cheap as a 3rd stringer, i think i would literally shit! lol.

[akaseinfeld]

David Aldridge (http://twitter.com/daldridgetnt): Source says Nets are still talking 2 Humphries and hoping to re-sign him. Brooklyn not facilitating S&T w/Charlotte; Nets want him back.

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz20RwQBl54

[SWedd523]

No I haven't checked any of those sites recently but last I heard, at the start of FA we were below the cap floor and even once we got there it was like 20 mil under the cap ceiling.

How would we be limited in who we signed.

And to be honest, I'm not a Hansbrough fan, but I'd rather take him at 4 mil and possibly Stephenson, or even a 2nd rounder, than commit to Humphries for a multi-year deal at 5+.

Gordon -- $12.4
Thomas -- $8.0
Diop -- $7.372
MKG -- $4.603
Carroll -- $3.5
Hendo -- $3.101
Bismack -- $2.924
Reggie -- $2.613
Kemba -- $2.462
Mullens -- $2.253
Taylor -- $1.0


That puts us at just over $50 million with the cap at $58 and change.

Sessions and Hansbrough would eliminate any space left over

[ammofan]

Isn't Humphries unrestricted?

[ohara831]

David Aldridge (http://twitter.com/daldridgetnt): Source says Nets are still talking 2 Humphries and hoping to re-sign him. Brooklyn not facilitating S&T w/Charlotte; Nets want him back.

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz20RwQBl54


Boo! Hiss!!

[Black]

Boo! Hiss!!

How could they possibly afford him. Outbid them, even if it's by one red penny, Dwight Schrute style.

[westbrook08]

yes he's unrestricted.And i don't see why people are opposed to a multi year deal with humphries.He's a great rebounder and a walking double double and i believe a coach like dunlap and a wide open offense would make him even better. You can't have an all star @ every position with the salary cap.Someone on any given team has to just be a solid starter who does the grunt work and i think he fits that bill fine.

[SWedd523]

Isn't Humphries unrestricted?
He is, but they could simply offer a bigger deal if they wanted him that badly and/or force us to overbid for his services

[adam187]

Isn't Humphries unrestricted?

Yeah, but you can still sign and trade. Preserves bird rights I believe. Happened with lebron to Miami.

[westbrook08]

I say just go get it done.Does anyone remember how long we looked for a decent power forward before the tyrus deal? And now he's flamed out.There's no guarantee that we're getting nerlins noel or that some perennial all star forward is signing here soon.Humphries is a good young player who plays hard on both sides of the ball and who should still have trade value even after we sign him.If he wants to be here pay the man and and let's roll!

[Mustachio]

I saw some sign and trade options that put Hump around 7 mil. I would do that. 3 years at 7 per is not bad for 13/11.

He's 27 so still young. and I think a PF rotation of Hump/Mully/TT looks good... on paper at least.

Plus he isn't going to put us in that 8th spot hamster wheel.

[ZackTB23]

I have no idea why and can't back it up. but I actually sat courtside for the nets games last year. Of all the people on the court I was most impressed by Humphries. For one he's waaay bigger than I thought, hustles, and is productive.

"For one he's waaay bigger than I thought, hustles, and is productive." That's what Kim said.

[ammofan]

Honestly I'd give him 9 a year if need be. How many guys average a legit double double every night? I'd much rather give Hump 9 than Ryan Anderson like the Hornets did.

[westbrook08]

After taking ray j's donkey penis i seriously doubt he gave her anything that she hadn't seen before! lol.

[SWedd523]

After taking ray j's donkey penis i seriously doubt he gave her anything that she hadn't seen before! lol.

http://www.ideachampions.com/weblogs/pause.jpg

[westbrook08]

http://www.ideachampions.com/weblogs/pause.jpg

What? I don't get it.

[Ghost Kat]

I don't usually LOL but when I do, I do it for Swedd's Pause Icon. Post correctly my friends...

[westbrook08]

Omg.That wasn't that bad.We're all adults here.Lighten up! lol.

[Ghost Kat]

Back on topic, I don't want this Kim K reject. I'm not a fan, I have no good basketball reasoning or stats to back up my opinion. I just don't like him. He looks,acts and talks goofy. He's a career back up and we need starter caliber

[SWedd523]

Back on topic, I don't want this Kim K reject. I'm not a fan, I have no good basketball reasoning or stats to back up my opinion. I just don't like him. He looks,acts and talks goofy. He's a career back up and we need starter caliber
He's basically a better Tyler Hansbrough as far as I'm concerned.

[skratch]

Back on topic, I don't want this Kim K reject. I'm not a fan, I have no good basketball reasoning or stats to back up my opinion. I just don't like him. He looks,acts and talks goofy. He's a career back up and we need starter caliber

lol i think hes a douche

[Ghost Kat]

He's basically a better Tyler Hansbrough as far as I'm concerned.

I'd have to disagree but again I must admit I'm basing this solely off my hate for his goofyness. Tyler just seems like a tougher player. And with Mullens in the game you need to match him up with someone who has cojonas..

[ohara831]

At almost 14 pts and 11 reb. and his hustle, I am just fine with him in Charlotte as our starting PF. Will be much better than anything else we've had. And still young enough to grow and get better along with this young team. And if he comes here of his own free will, than that means he WANTS to be in Charlotte. Can you name a better PF who WANTS to play for the Bobcats? Dont think so. And dont tell me we can get one in the next draft. There are no guarantees, especially with David Stern still running the show.

[westbrook08]

I hear what your saying.I just disagree.The guy has had 2 straight years with uncertainty hanging over his head and turmoil in his personal life and has still managed to get better.That actually shows alot of character to me.Not to mention he's an above average rebounder(which we desperately need) and has had some pretty good offensive games from time to time over the last few years and seems to actually have room to get better.I would love to see what dunlap can get out of him,cause i don't think he's reached his ceiling yet.But everyone is entitled to their own take on the situation.

[ammofan]

We're offering 3years 22 mil and Nets offering 3 years 24 mil per Mark Stein. WE NEED TO GET HIM. UP THE OFFER CHO!

[westbrook08]

If they still end up trading him @ the deadline i wonder if we're actually driving the price up on ourselves right now.

[ohara831]

Have to try and outbid them. Nets have so much committed already, they cannot keep going. 3 for $25mil might be my cap tho. If the Big Russian keeps going higher, then you have to fold and let him win this hand.

[Chef]

We're offering 3years 22 mil and Nets offering 3 years 24 mil per Mark Stein. WE NEED TO GET HIM. UP THE OFFER CHO!

it will come down to how disrespected he felt by nj. if he feels like we really do want him and will respect him not as a contract to be traded, he may come here for slightly less money. place a value on him and stick to it (negotiating 101)

[captaincrunk]

it will come down to how disrespected he felt by nj. if he feels like we really do want him and will respect him not as a contract to be traded, he may come here for slightly less money. place a value on him and stick to it (negotiating 101)

Yup. Tell him 22 million, great minutes and we'd love to have him. If he wants more money, have fun in New Jersey!


Then you move to one of the other 500 NBA players and try again.

[notdeadyet]

He is flat out one of if not THE best OFFENSIVE rebounders today. He hustles, is relentless and generally gets his points off putbacks; nothing soft about him at all... IMO, he'd be a GREAT fit here. I think our style would indeed elevate his game. With that said, I wouldn't break the bank to get him, as there are other PFs available. Whether he signs with them or us is totally up to him. With all the "stars" they've assembled, he may choose to leave (fingers crossed).

[westbrook08]

He made 9 mil last year.So i think whichever team wins is gonna have to go 3 years and 27 million at least i think.oh' and negotiating 101 might work when your buying a car.But to steal a starting pf away from a potential championship contender,we're probably going to have to outbid them.We were 7-59 last year.We're gonna have to pay to get talent here right now.

[Chef]

He is flat out one of if not THE best OFFENSIVE rebounders today. He hustles, is relentless and generally gets his points off putbacks; nothing soft about him at all... IMO, he'd be a GREAT fit here. I think our style would indeed elevate his game. With that said, I wouldn't break the bank to get him, as there are other PFs available. Whether he signs with them or us is totally up to him. With all the "stars" they've assembled, he may choose to leave (fingers crossed).

i would like to introduce you to a guy named kevin love.

[Chef]

He made 9 mil last year.So i think whichever team wins is gonna have to go 3 years and 27 million at least i think.oh' and negotiating 101 might work when your buying a car.But to steal a starting pf away from a potential championship contender,we're probably going to have to outbid them.We were 7-59 last year.We're gonna have to pay to get talent here right now.

negotiating 101 is negotiating 101. place a value on the asset you wish to accumulate and don't pay more than your value. period.

[westbrook08]

i would like to introduce you to a guy named kevin love.

True.But i would very happy with a guy who makes about half of what love does and is still an extremely solid contributor.

[westbrook08]

negotiating 101 is negotiating 101. place a value on the asset you wish to accumulate and don't pay more than your value. period.

I see what your saying.But he made 9 mil last year and if we're really in this thing to get him,you can't expect him to take a pay cut to come here.I think 3 yrs. 27 mil is probably the least his agent would want to come here.However, his camp has been saying all along that they want 4 years,so if we truly expect to steal him away i wouldn't be surprised if the price tag was 4 yrs. and between 36 and 40 million.That's up for our front office to decide.

[Chef]

I see what your saying.But he made 9 mil last year and we're really in this thing to get him,you can't expect him to take a pay cut to come here.I think 3 yrs. 27 mil is probably the least his agent would want to come here.However, his camp has been saying all along that they want 4 years,so if we truly expect to steal him away i wouldn't be surprised if the price tag was 4 yrs. and between 36 and 40 million.That's up for our front office to decide.

he made 9 million on a 1 year deal. he would much rather have the security of 3 years at 7 and change guaranteed than 1 year at 9 mil and have to do free agency again. this is probably going to be his last shot at a decent deal given his age.

[ammofan]

it will come down to how disrespected he felt by nj. if he feels like we really do want him and will respect him not as a contract to be traded, he may come here for slightly less money. place a value on him and stick to it (negotiating 101)

True. But if he we think he's gonna go with Nets instead I'm upping the offer real fast. He's worth it. That's what Im trying to say. Do what you gotta do to get him here.

[BlockParty]

it will come down to how disrespected he felt by nj. if he feels like we really do want him and will respect him not as a contract to be traded, he may come here for slightly less money. place a value on him and stick to it (negotiating 101)


Yup. Tell him 22 million, great minutes and we'd love to have him. If he wants more money, have fun in New Jersey!

Then you move to one of the other 500 NBA players and try again.

And the clincher...he and Matt Carroll are buddies. They played together in Dallas, Matt & Wife went to the Kardashian wedding....

yeah, ok, that won't clinch anything.

[westbrook08]

Of course he would rather have security.But his agent isn't stupid.If us and the net's are both seriously bidding he's gonna go for years and money.I think whichever team gets him will have to go to 4 years regardless of money.I know it's not popular,but i think we should consider using the amnesty of tyrus so we can get him and still have cap room the next few years.I know jordan doesn't wanna pay it,but it would go along way towards showing if he really wants to build a contender.

[ohara831]

I understand the art of Negotiating 101. But you also have to factor in that we are the Bobcats. Just came off the worst winning % year in NBA history. We very well may have to go a little bit beyond to get some FA talent here. But once we start winning, then you can be more selective. But all things being equal, right now, equal is NOT our friend.

[polarcat]

BK is looking at a 3 or 4 seed in the East and will be in that "next tier" below Miami and Chicago. In Brooklyn, he needs them, more than they need him, IMO, whereas here in Charlotte, we need him more than he needs us. I think realistically, we have to match the Nets in offers and hope that his view of them is tainted in order to tip the scales in our favor. We won't be getting a bargain deal on him coming here in order to spite a team that had their goals set on top-flight players over a solid 4th or 5th option player.

[Frosty06306]

He's a quality player no doubt, I remember a show talking about Humprhies and players imploring their coach to not take him due to his personality. Pretty positive this happened at Kansas, not positive though. I'm just not sure his personality would click with Charlotte especially if the team isn't successful. I could see him being a big cancer in the locker room. Just my two cents.

[dnbman]

He's a quality player no doubt, I remember a show talking about Humprhies and players imploring their coach to not take him due to his personality. Pretty positive this happened at Kansas, not positive though. I'm just not sure his personality would click with Charlotte especially if the team isn't successful. I could see him being a big cancer in the locker room. Just my two cents.

A buddy of mine who's a Nets fan said he was one of the few guys who kept working hard for the last two seasons despite the team being bad. He rated him a B+ player, which is a pretty good thing. He could be terrible in the locker room, but I didn't get that impression.

[bes628]

I like Hump. He's a good player.

[polarcat]

My wife is a ridiculously involved Kardashian's (sp.) fan, and said that most of what was on that show was staged, and that Humphries is a pretty chill dude. She was saying something about him suing them for such a staged thing on the show. I remember when he came out of Minnesota and was exactly painted as what he has been thus far in the League. Not an All-Star, but a starter that did the essentials that doesn't show up in the box scores or on SC. I wouldn't go overboard to get him, but he would be a great piece to have here on a 3-year deal.

[captaincrunk]

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
League sources believe that, eventually, Kris Humphries is likely to return to the Nets rather than go to Charlotte. No other teams involved

[Black]

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
League sources believe that, eventually, Kris Humphries is likely to return to the Nets rather than go to Charlotte. No other teams involved

Well shit.

Scola anyone?

[ALong13]

Man is a double double machine, and would instantly be are best and most established player. Not the highest potential, but right now he's the best we'd have. I'd certainly be willing to overpay a little if we could amnesty Tyrus Thomas in his place. We were willing to give a max contract to Lopez, but can't offer 9 million a year for a constant double-double guy like Kris?

[bes628]

Well shit.

Scola anyone?
too old ..??

[captaincrunk]

too old ..??

and jamison isn't?

[bes628]

and jamison isn't?

he absolutely is. Im not crazy about Jamison, but to be fair he is cheaper.

[ohara831]

David Aldridge makes stuff up about the Bobcats because he's an ass!

[bes628]

David Aldridge makes stuff up about the Bobcats because he's an ass!

considering league sources are usually wrong about us, that tweet means nothing in my book.

[polarcat]

It is intriguing that we have been involved in a large chunk of the offseason signing madness. 3 max deals (Gordon, Lopez, Gay), Dragic, Jamison, Humphries, Hickson, Thompson, Brand, Marshon Brooks, Haywood, and I'm sure there's interest in Scola. I know I probably left a couple of players out, but we have been rumored in a number of trades, which could be good and bad. Good if players really do want to come here. Bad, if they are using us as leverage for facilitating their respective deals due to us coming off the worst record in league history. At least it's been an eventful start to the summer and as 'Cats fans, we are at least entertained.

[BrotherDave]

too old ..??

Scola's game was never predicated on athleticism though. He has some of the best Bball IQ in the league and would be a perfect mentor for Biz. Biz with Scola's post game = perennial All Star.

[notdeadyet]

i would like to introduce you to a guy named kevin love. No doubt Love is a better offensive player and defensive rebounder, but Humphries is right with him stat-wise on the offensive glass. And I consider Cousins a C more than a PF...
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/rebounds/sort/avgRebounds/year/2012/seasontype/2

[dnbman]

David Aldridge: Asking around, not as much interest among uncapped teams for Scola bid as you'd think. Minimum bid is $3+ million in year one, $10M total. Twitter

Wow. Let's do this.

[Adam42R]

Wow. Let's do this.

He's a defensive black hole. And whereas Jamison isn't known for his defensive prowess, there's a logical tie to the area and there's a genuine want (from him) to be here. I think a Scola deal would be a bad fit with this team

[TheBeagle]

Yeah, for me priority one is still Antawn, priority two is Humphries (dead though it's looking), prioirty three Scola. Still, can't go wrong from a personnel standpoint on any of them....let's just hope we do land one of them.

[dnbman]

He's a defensive black hole. And whereas Jamison isn't known for his defensive prowess, there's a logical tie to the area and there's a genuine want (from him) to be here. I think a Scola deal would be a bad fit with this team

Scola can rebound, run, shoot, and finish. He'd be a great 4 for our uptempo offense. I appreciate Antawn's ties, but Scola would be a much better player to add, especially if he's discounted.

[SWedd523]

I dunno if I'd call Scola much of a runner or uptempo type of player.

He never really was an up-and-down guy, probably less so now with his age. He's a great halfcourt, dump it down and let him go to work, guy.

[dnbman]

I dunno if I'd call Scola much of a runner or uptempo type of player.

He never really was an up-and-down guy, probably less so now with his age. He's a great halfcourt, dump it down and let him go to work, guy.

YOU SHUT YOUR FACE!

You may be right, but the last several times I watched that guy play he was very good moving with the ball and did quite a bit of running. He seemed like a crafty player to who could make buckets and passes, which I loved about him.

[westbrook08]

if we strike out on jamison and humphries i say go after carl landry.Given that all the major guys have been bid on, i don't think he'll command more than the mid-level at the most.They also said tonight that haywood can be had for as little as 1.3 mil a year.Given his ties and family here as well as our ability to offer playing time, i expect he'll be a bobcat in a few days.And yeah, david aldridge is full of shit! lol.

[BallDontLie]

The Warriors are reportedly closing in on Landry but $ may be an issue.

[westbrook08]

The Warriors are reportedly closing in on Landry but $ may be an issue.

Yeah,but if he had a chance to start here i think that would tilt it in our favor if we decided to get in on him.He won't start over lee.

[Black]

Landry is unrestricted?

[Plowright]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/222286/Nets_Bobcats_Competing_To_Sign_Kris_Humphries77 apparently we have offered 22 million over 3 years, Brooklyn have offered 24 million over the same length of time, not sure why we would win this... maybe Humpries doesn't like Brooklyn? :S

Maybe Humphies is just dancing the dance with us to drive up his price to Brooklyn,wouldn't surprise me

[captaincrunk]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/222286/Nets_Bobcats_Competing_To_Sign_Kris_Humphries77 apparently we have offered 22 million over 3 years, Brooklyn have offered 24 million over the same length of time, not sure why we would win this... maybe Humpries doesn't like Brooklyn? :S

Maybe Humphies is just dancing the dance with us to drive up his price to Brooklyn,wouldn't surprise me
If I'm anyone not signed this offseason already, I'd be saying "fuck brooklyn" right now. they're dumping everyone trying to get howard.

[Plowright]

Not really, by signing Lopez they have really limited the likelihood they trade for Dwight. Lopez now cannot be traded until Feb 2nd and with him out the picture I don't see Orlando even bothering talking to the Nets about a trade.

[westbrook08]

Not really, by signing Lopez they have really limited the likelihood they trade for Dwight. Lopez now cannot be traded until Feb 2nd and with him out the picture I don't see Orlando even bothering talking to the Nets about a trade.

It doesn't end anything with the nets if they get humphries back in the fold.If orlando trades howard to houston or L.A. that's one thing,but if howard is still there at the trade deadline and brooklyn has all it's pieces these talks will start right back up.Guaranteed.I think it makes more sense anyway.You've got one guy with a hurt foot and one with a hurt back.I would want to see if they were healthy before trading for a max contract.

[notdeadyet]

I think Humphries is the best fit due to his offensive rebounded skill, but Landry is a little better defender in half-court. Scola has exceptional BB IQ offensively, and is also a clever defender and still a decent enough rebounder. I suspect we'll get whatever's left... Then we get to pick between Kwame, Brendan, and Darko... In a run and gun, Darko could be interesting...

[superb1]

Peter Vecsey: ...and Nets working to re-up Humphries. Contrary to reports, there is no bidding war going on. He wants to return. $ & yrs being worked on Twitter

Rod Boone: Billy King said ‪#Nets‬ are "close" to potential new deal with Kris Humphries. Twitter

Tim Bontemps: Billy says the goal is to re-sign Kris Humphries. Twitter

[ohara831]

I aint heard the fat lady sing yet. There is still time for Cho to do something.

[enigmaboy89]

Humphries would be a awesome addition to the team. He would definitely be much better than Diop.

[Plowright]

It doesn't end anything with the nets if they get humphries back in the fold.If orlando trades howard to houston or L.A. that's one thing,but if howard is still there at the trade deadline and brooklyn has all it's pieces these talks will start right back up.Guaranteed.I think it makes more sense anyway.You've got one guy with a hurt foot and one with a hurt back.I would want to see if they were healthy before trading for a max contract.

ummmmmm no? If they sign Humphries they can't trade him until Feb either. Also I guarantee you DH will be gone before a basket is shot in the NBA this season, there is no way he is in Orlando in Feb. The Nets deal is all but shot now, the Lakers and Rockets are the best fits now...

[superb1]

The Rockets are getting ready to throw in everything and the kitchen sink plus take back some bad contracts


The Houston Rockets are doing everything possible to land Dwight Howard and that includes opening up a lot of salary cap room by waiving Luis Scola via the amnesty rule, reports ESPN.com's Marc Stein and Chad Ford.

According to Stein and Ford, the Rockets will have enough room to take on a combination of Orlando's bad contracts -- Hedo Turkoglu, Jason Richardson, Glen Davis and Chris Duhon -- and they will send them a bunch of young players and future draft picks.

As far as the players Orlando would get, Stein and Ford write: "Sources say that the Rockets would have to send Kevin Martin, Patrick Patterson, Marcus Morris and Chandler Parsons to the Magic from their current roster to make the salary-cap math work, as well the draft rights to Jeremy Lamb, Royce White and Terrence Jones.

The Rockets would also waive Shaun Livingston, Courtney Fortson, Josh Harrellson, Jerome Jordan, Jon Leuer, Diamon Simpson and Greg Smith as none of them have guaranteed contracts.

The Magic reportedly won't consider any Howard trade until next week.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

[krazyrumpshaker]

The Rockets are getting ready to throw in everything and the kitchen sink plus take back some bad contracts


The Houston Rockets are doing everything possible to land Dwight Howard and that includes opening up a lot of salary cap room by waiving Luis Scola via the amnesty rule, reports ESPN.com's Marc Stein and Chad Ford.

According to Stein and Ford, the Rockets will have enough room to take on a combination of Orlando's bad contracts -- Hedo Turkoglu, Jason Richardson, Glen Davis and Chris Duhon -- and they will send them a bunch of young players and future draft picks.

As far as the players Orlando would get, Stein and Ford write: "Sources say that the Rockets would have to send Kevin Martin, Patrick Patterson, Marcus Morris and Chandler Parsons to the Magic from their current roster to make the salary-cap math work, as well the draft rights to Jeremy Lamb, Royce White and Terrence Jones.

The Rockets would also waive Shaun Livingston, Courtney Fortson, Josh Harrellson, Jerome Jordan, Jon Leuer, Diamon Simpson and Greg Smith as none of them have guaranteed contracts.

The Magic reportedly won't consider any Howard trade until next week.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors


How would they be able to field a team. that is 4 players traded to orlando currently on the team, 3 draft picks, and then cutting 7 players. that is 14 players out and they also amnestied Scola. So 15 players gone. And they only have 5 players coming in. So they would have to pick up players somehow, why would they have to waive the 7 listed above as well, none of them make much money.

[westbrook08]

ummmmmm no? If they sign Humphries they can't trade him until Feb either. Also I guarantee you DH will be gone before a basket is shot in the NBA this season, there is no way he is in Orlando in Feb. The Nets deal is all but shot now, the Lakers and Rockets are the best fits now...

After feb? Ummmmmmm no? They can't trade lopez until jan 15 because of some way his contract was done.Normal same year signees can be traded dec.15.Both of those are before the feb trade deadline.Is it more likely that orlando will move howard to houston or L.A. because they want him gone before training camp? Yes. If they want to pick things back up with the nets later in the year is it still an option? 100% absolutely Yes! As long as they still have all the original parts to the deal.

[dnbman]

How would they be able to field a team. that is 4 players traded to orlando currently on the team, 3 draft picks, and then cutting 7 players. that is 14 players out and they also amnestied Scola. So 15 players gone. And they only have 5 players coming in. So they would have to pick up players somehow, why would they have to waive the 7 listed above as well, none of them make much money.

You can add as many guys you want at the league minimum over the cap to field the team. So, they could get rid of all those guys to make the acquisition and the field the rest of the team with league minimum guys. It feels like they'd just become Disney Land Texas style, but they must have some kind of plan.

[notdeadyet]

The forgotten team in the Dwight sweepstakes is the Atlanta Hawks. Did they bail, or is Ferry putting together a plan?? They got plenty of assets...

[superb1]

I was thinking of the players Houston will waived, we could pick up one or two. I think Jerome Jordan was one. Idk how everyone feels about him but it was an idea.

sent from the pseudo GM offices of the Charlotte Bobcats.

[mrtarheel]

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The issue with Carl Landry is durability: He's missed 25 or more games each of the past 3 seasons. Mostly lower-body injuries.
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Obviously you know about Humphiries and Jamison as #Bobcats possibilities. Carl Landery also fits in the mix somewhere as PF option.
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Bonnell is at work again, but Landry might be an option. With him though we would have to get Jamison because he is injury prone.

[westbrook08]

The forgotten team in the Dwight sweepstakes is the Atlanta Hawks. Did they bail, or is Ferry putting together a plan?? They got plenty of assets...

From a basketball standpoint i agree that atlanta can offer some good assets but it's extremely rare for teams to trade within their own division.Especially when talking about a star player.If they were to get him and dominate that division it would probably get hennigan fired sooner rather than later.

[notdeadyet]

Back to the Nets. 2 years, 24 mil.... Wow...
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8173231/2012-nba-free-agency-kris-humphries-brooklyn-nets-agree-deal

[BountyHunter]

HoopsHype (http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/source/S-991991)




Agent Byron Irvin on Kris Humphries' decision to re-sign with the Nets: "It came down to Brooklyn Nets and Charlotte Bobcats for Kris Humphries. Kris really liked what Rod Higgins of Charlotte had to say when free agency began and it was close, but he picked Brooklyn







We are trying. At least players are giving us consideration.

[Plowright]

Money talks louder than words

[westbrook08]

I wouldn't want him for that much.I said 2 weeks ago that he wasn't take a pay cut and if we got him it would be a steep price.But even i didn't think the nets were crazy enough to give him 12 million a year.Damn!