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DashGlobal
07-14-2012, 02:14 PM
Just finished watching the 1st summer league game and man I am pretty pumped. Granted it was against mostly scrubs. We are gonna need a deep bench to play that press every game. Outside of maybe 1 big I think we are fine on the wings.

PG: Kemba 30mpg / Sessions 18mpg

I am probably being overzealous here with Kemba's minutes with the pace and pressure we will run but I am hoping we can get 28-30 mpg out of him. Hate to say it but Dunlap needs to put a redlight on his outside shooting unless it is completely wide open and set. Kemba needs to focus on attacking the basket for easy points and easy buckets for teammates. Then look for mid range pull up jumpers. Sessions will be great off the bench imo.

SG: Hendo 27mpg / Gordon 16mpg / Taylor 5mpg

I am torn here. I actually think Taylor is a better option at SG but then we would have no depth at SF. For now though I would roll with Hendo starting. He needs to be more assertive on the offensive end though. Gordon will make for a nice offensive spark off the bench. Then sprinkle in some minutes for Taylor here.

SF: MKG 30mpg / Taylor 18mpg

Great SF rotation. They compliment each other nicely. Just gotta make sure MKG plays within himself and doesnt take to many 3's unless he can prove to shoot 35% or better. But I am sure he will play to his strengths and within the flow of the game.

PF: (free agent) 25mpg / Tyrus 23mpg

Hopefully we get a starting quality PF. Praying for Scola. Until Tyrus can prove himself I dont want him getting anymore than 23mpg.

c: Biz 25mpg / Mully 23mpg

Talk about polar opposites. They both need more minutes than this although I am not sure of their fitness level. Mully needs to ton it down about and look to find his shot within the flow of the offense. Biz just needs to focus on defense and rebounds and work on solidifying 1-2 go to post moves.


Gonna really have to wait till after the season starts to be able to really break down a rotation that is most optimal. This is just what I would roll with game 1.

teej
07-14-2012, 02:18 PM
Biz and BJ will play together I'm fairly certain. As will Kemba and Sessions. TBH I think the best lineup this team has is Kemba/Gordon/Hendo or MKG/Biz/BJ. But that probably wont get too much burn.

DashGlobal
07-14-2012, 02:23 PM
The prob is we need MKG and Taylor on the court at the same time imo. The on ball defense they can apply is outstanding.

Id be tempted to run this lineup ALOT

Kemba
Hendo
Taylor
MKG
Biz

MKG prob needs to bulk up more in the upper body to be able to defend most PF's though....

teej
07-14-2012, 02:31 PM
Taylor is a 2nd round pick, you can't expect him to play that many minutes. Gordon will play twice as much as Jeff. You also forgot Reggie Williams.

DashGlobal
07-14-2012, 02:50 PM
Taylor is a 2nd round pick, you can't expect him to play that many minutes. Gordon will play twice as much as Jeff. You also forgot Reggie Williams.

Taylor going in the 2nd round means nothing. He was projected to go in the 1st. Taylor had better stats and is a better defender and shooter than almost 90% of the players that went in the 1st round. Not to mention his athleticism. It all comes down to skill and conditioning in regards to any player getting x amount of minutes.

I guarantee you Gordon will not play DOUBLE the minutes of Taylor. Taylor will be the PRIMARY backup to MKG and will be a huge asset to this team with his defense, shooting, and athleticism. Hendo will start at SG so Gordon will also be a backup.

There just wont be many minutes for Reggie with the signing of Gordon imo

teej
07-14-2012, 02:55 PM
If stats in college were so important then why do you think MKG will be good? Oh, and Jimmer looked great in college. How's he doing?

Whether Taylor was supposed to be a 1st rounder is irrelevant. He didnt go for one reason or another and while he may be better than most second rounders he's still not going to get minutes over a proven player like Ben just because you think he looked good in one summer league game. Your expectations need a reality check.

GoBobs
07-14-2012, 02:56 PM
as of right now our best rotation might be

Kemba/Sessions
Hendo/Gordon/Williams
Taylor/Brown
MKG/Tyrus
Bismack/Mullens

I won't be surprised if we end up playing a 9-10 man rotation, going small a lot, and it ends up looking something like this with Mullen the odd man out

Kemba/Sessions
Hendo/Gordon
Taylor/Williams
MKG/Brown
Bis/Tyrus

DashGlobal
07-14-2012, 03:05 PM
If stats in college were so important then why do you think MKG will be good? Oh, and Jimmer looked great in college. How's he doing?

Whether Taylor was supposed to be a 1st rounder is irrelevant. He didnt go for one reason or another and while he may be better than most second rounders he's still not going to get minutes over a proven player like Ben just because you think he looked good in one summer league game. Your expectations need a reality check.

Personally I look at the whole picture, not just stats alone. Jimmer is undersized and unathletic. So him struggling is no surprise to anyone that knows basketball.

Gordon will be playing primarily SG, so his signing means little in regards to Taylor as I see Taylor primarily playing SF.

Your reasoning needs a reality check imo

DashGlobal
07-14-2012, 03:07 PM
as of right now our best rotation might be

Kemba/Sessions
Hendo/Gordon/Williams
Taylor/Brown
MKG/Tyrus
Bismack/Mullens

I won't be surprised if we end up playing a 9-10 man rotation, going small a lot, and it ends up looking something like this with Mullen the odd man out

Kemba/Sessions
Hendo/Gordon
Taylor/Williams
MKG/Brown
Bis/Tyrus

There is no dount in my mind our best lineup is kemba / Hendo / Taylor / MKG / Biz

Only question is can MKG guard nba PF's.

I def see up going with both MKG and Taylor at the end of a tight game for defensive purposes.

Twan's Kin
07-14-2012, 08:28 PM
How many roster spots do we now have open with Haywood, Tyrus, Diop, Carroll on the team?

SJackson1
07-14-2012, 08:32 PM
Kemba/Sessions
Henderson/Gordon
MKG/Taylor
FA/Mullens
Biyombo/Haywood

notdeadyet
07-14-2012, 08:58 PM
The lineup in Vegas vs the Kings was: Walker, Taylor, MKG, Mullens, Biyombo. Of cours that could change for the season.
On Bobcats.com, Coach seemed pleased with Mullens at the 4. He wants him to go to the rim some instead of always settling for the 3, which he showed he could. Dunlap likes the 3 as a weapon, but wants him to still be productive when the 3 isn't falling...

superb1
07-14-2012, 11:51 PM
if we do bring back Higgins, we don't have any open spots but I believe if we were to sign someone significant, we maybe amnestying someone though

ALong13
07-15-2012, 01:15 AM
PG: Kemba (Sessions, Higgins)
SG: Henderson (Gordon, Carroll)
SF: MKG (Williams, Taylor)
PF: Thomas (Mullins)
C: Biyombo (Haywood, Diop)

I have this as my depth chart right now, depending on how the season goes, I think Taylor could overtake Reggie Williams, and if Jamison join town, I think Thomas is gone...

DashGlobal
07-15-2012, 01:25 AM
PG: Kemba (Sessions, Higgins)
SG: Henderson (Gordon, Carroll)
SF: MKG (Williams, Taylor)
PF: Thomas (Mullins)
C: Biyombo (Haywood, Diop)

I have this as my depth chart right now, depending on how the season goes, I think Taylor could overtake Reggie Williams, and if Jamison join town, I think Thomas is gone...

There is no need to play Higgins and Caroll outside of garbage minutes at the end of a game.

You think Williams is better than Taylor?

DCAWFAN
07-15-2012, 02:46 AM
PG: Kemba (Sessions, Higgins)
SG: Henderson (Gordon, Carroll)
SF: MKG (Williams, Taylor)
PF: Thomas (Mullins)
C: Biyombo (Haywood, Diop)

I have this as my depth chart right now, depending on how the season goes, I think Taylor could overtake Reggie Williams, and if Jamison join town, I think Thomas is gone...
no way this starts. No one on that starting line up can shoot better than 30% from 3 on any given night.

isguros
07-15-2012, 04:02 AM
I'm not sure Taylor is going to be the second string small forward. Don't get me wrong he's good, but if the Bobcats bring Derrick Brown back, he will probably get more minutes than Taylor. Brown was one of the few bright spots on last year's roster, and I believe Dunlap's style of coaching will have a positive effect on his game.

BlockParty
07-15-2012, 07:03 AM
I'm not sure Taylor is going to be the second string small forward. Don't get me wrong he's good, but if the Bobcats bring Derrick Brown back, he will probably get more minutes than Taylor. Brown was one of the few bright spots on last year's roster, and I believe Dunlap's style of coaching will have a positive effect on his game.

I agree that UPS would benefit from Dunlap's style, but if they were competing for minutes at the SF spot...Taylor would win more minutes because of his range (which is a big part of Dunlap's offense). Having said that, depending how "up tempo" we tend to go, and how long we run the full-court press, I could the rotation expanding from the typical NBA 8-9 players to 10-12 players..sure our players will be tired, but so will our opponents.

Plowright
07-15-2012, 07:26 AM
I am in a bit of a kuffuffle when it comes to the rotation. I am torn... Dunlap obviously wants better 3 point shooting as it makes getting into the paint easier as the defense has to stay true to the shooters.

Kemba/Sessions

Dunlap was hired to develop our young guys, he should start by making Kemba the leader of the team and giving him the start, it already seems that Dunlap is setting Kemba up for more of a leading role this season.

Gordon/Hendo/Williams

Gordon provides outside shooting, now I think this position depends on our power forward position and vica versa. If TT or Biyombo start at PF then I think Gordon starts. This is because a line up of Kemba,Hendo,MKG,Biz/TT, Haywood would be terrible at 3 point shooting and would again not fill Dunlap's aim of spacing the floor to making driving to the basket easier.

MKG/Jeff Taylor/UPS

I think if we had Silas back again this year UPS would be ahead of Taylor, but with a new coach who does not know UPS I believe he is more likely to go with Taylor as he will know more about him due to sumer league and Taylor will know the system that little bit more. Also it is not like UPS has some refined veteran game, he still plays like a rookie if you know what i mean? Relies on his hops to get him point, although is rebounding and jumper did improve last season.

Mullens/TT

Again like I said with our SG, this spot could change. If Hendo starts then I think Mullens does as we need some outside shooting from somewhere. I think Mullens also gets the nod as he has been with Dunlap through summer league and he will know the philosophy/offensive/defensive rotations that will be implemented. Dunlap ahs also spoken very highly of Mullens, saying he is taking all the info he throws at him like a sponge

Bizmack/Haywood

Again, Dunlap wants to develop these guys, Biz already started last year and showed he could handle the job. Haywood would be a good veteran guy to have off the bench and would relieve Biz from worrying about getting into so much foul trouble. Haywood is also 32 so coming off the bench may increase his effectiveness as he will not be hurting so much

I think if we had Silas back again this year UPS would be ahead of Taylor, but with a new coach who does not know UPS I believe he is more likely to go with Taylor as he will know more about him due to sumer league and Taylor will know the system that little bit more. Also it is not like UPS has some refined veteran game, he still plays like a rookie if you know what i mean? Relys on his hops to get him point, although is rebounding and jumper did improve last season.

dnbman
07-15-2012, 03:57 PM
I think it's too early to say who starts, but I have a strong suspicion it will be Kemba, Hendo, MKG, Mullens, and Biyombo. They will have had the most time with the coach and offer the most dynamic running five, save for three point shooting. However, I think Kemba, Hendo, and MKG will prove to be better outside shooters than expected. For one, they'll be in more of a system that makes sens and, two, all three are going to be working on outside shooting.

Really, though, I want to see free agency finish and get through pre-season training first. Too many variables at the moment. What I love about this year's roster is that we have a lot more depth and diversity of looks. Sessions, Gordon, Williams, and Taylor are a nice set of players to come off your bench. If Tyrus turns it around, we could end up with depth at every position. We should be able to handle injuries a lot better, keeping guys in their positions rather than having to play a lot of people out of position to make a line-up.

And even more to the point, I don't really care who starts. As long as our youngsters get minutes and develop, it doesn't matter to me. We have enough talent now that there's not a lot of shame in coming off the bench. As long as the coach keeps the team focused on developing individually and as a team, we'll be fine.

gm in training
07-15-2012, 04:08 PM
Taylor is a 2nd round pick, you can't expect him to play that many minutes. Gordon will play twice as much as Jeff. You also forgot Reggie Williams.
i agree that taylor may not get more than 10 min a game .even if mkg comes out the game i think they will slide henderson to sf and gordon at the 2 for the 2nd unit.also sessions will likey be the starter , he wasn't goint to sign with a team unless he was guaranteed an starting spot

gm in training
07-15-2012, 04:12 PM
Just finished watching the 1st summer league game and man I am pretty pumped. Granted it was against mostly scrubs. We are gonna need a deep bench to play that press every game. Outside of maybe 1 big I think we are fine on the wings.

PG: Kemba 30mpg / Sessions 18mpg

I am probably being overzealous here with Kemba's minutes with the pace and pressure we will run but I am hoping we can get 28-30 mpg out of him. Hate to say it but Dunlap needs to put a redlight on his outside shooting unless it is completely wide open and set. Kemba needs to focus on attacking the basket for easy points and easy buckets for teammates. Then look for mid range pull up jumpers. Sessions will be great off the bench imo.

SG: Hendo 27mpg / Gordon 16mpg / Taylor 5mpg

I am torn here. I actually think Taylor is a better option at SG but then we would have no depth at SF. For now though I would roll with Hendo starting. He needs to be more assertive on the offensive end though. Gordon will make for a nice offensive spark off the bench. Then sprinkle in some minutes for Taylor here.

SF: MKG 30mpg / Taylor 18mpg

Great SF rotation. They compliment each other nicely. Just gotta make sure MKG plays within himself and doesnt take to many 3's unless he can prove to shoot 35% or better. But I am sure he will play to his strengths and within the flow of the game.

PF: (free agent) 25mpg / Tyrus 23mpg

Hopefully we get a starting quality PF. Praying for Scola. Until Tyrus can prove himself I dont want him getting anymore than 23mpg.

c: Biz 25mpg / Mully 23mpg

Talk about polar opposites. They both need more minutes than this although I am not sure of their fitness level. Mully needs to ton it down about and look to find his shot within the flow of the offense. Biz just needs to focus on defense and rebounds and work on solidifying 1-2 go to post moves.


Gonna really have to wait till after the season starts to be able to really break down a rotation that is most optimal. This is just what I would roll with game 1.

hendo avg 33 min last year why would he go down to 27 min as a starter and sessions will avg way more minutes than that , i think you should switch sessions and walker around

dnbman
07-15-2012, 04:21 PM
hendo avg 33 min last year why would he go down to 27 min as a starter and sessions will avg way more minutes than that , i think you should switch sessions and walker around

Dunlap called Walker "the head of the dog," so I think it's safe to say that Kemba will be starting as long as he continues to play well between now and November.

As for minutes, Hendo was playing with little competition last year. It's likely that Hendo both gets better and plays less minutes just because we have more talent and will be running more. It wouldn't be a knock on Hendo to play less this year. It's just a testament to our reasonable depth.

gm in training
07-15-2012, 04:38 PM
Dunlap called Walker "the head of the dog," so I think it's safe to say that Kemba will be starting as long as he continues to play well between now and November.

As for minutes, Hendo was playing with little competition last year. It's likely that Hendo both gets better and plays less minutes just because we have more talent and will be running more. It wouldn't be a knock on Hendo to play less this year. It's just a testament to our reasonable depth.

27 min is 6th man minutes and this is hendo's 2nd full season as a starter and history has shown that players on the up rise gain minutes not the opposite

dnbman
07-15-2012, 04:47 PM
27 min is 6th man minutes and this is hendo's 2nd full season as a starter and history has shown that players on the up rise gain minutes not the opposite

The number of minutes a guy plays is all relative to the team. In an 82 game season where our guys are playing a fast up-tempo style, you're not going to have many guys playing in the high 30s. As an example, Steve Nash was an MVP caliber player and only averaged 32 minutes for his career, maxing at 35 for two seasons. And he was the undisputed best player on the team that made the entire offense work.

There were only 50 guys in the league that averaged more than 33 minutes a game, about 1.66 players per team. The 100th man in the league in minutes was 20 mpg. Considering that there are 150 starters, playing 28 minutes or so is not a bad thing at all and certainly starters minutes.

There's no shame in playing less minutes, especially if you're very productive in those minutes and you plan on a team with depth.

gm in training
07-15-2012, 05:20 PM
The number of minutes a guy plays is all relative to the team. In an 82 game season where our guys are playing a fast up-tempo style, you're not going to have many guys playing in the high 30s. As an example, Steve Nash was an MVP caliber player and only averaged 32 minutes for his career, maxing at 35 for two seasons. And he was the undisputed best player on the team that made the entire offense work.

There were only 50 guys in the league that averaged more than 33 minutes a game, about 1.66 players per team. The 100th man in the league in minutes was 20 mpg. Considering that there are 150 starters, playing 28 minutes or so is not a bad thing at all and certainly starters minutes.

There's no shame in playing less minutes, especially if you're very productive in those minutes and you plan on a team with depth.

i agree somewhat but hendo(24) is young and up coming , and nash was in his mid 30's. i dnt see how hendo getting good minutes is less reasonable than kemba's increase in minutes when we just acquired a starting quality point-guard and i dnt know if ya noticed but kemba's in the summer lg and usually the summer lg is to judge where the player game is at or what progress has been made. that shows me that the team isn't 100% sold on kemba(his summer lg game wasnt that good) . even the kings sat out isaiah thomas for the summer league because he's pegged as their starting point guard.

dnbman
07-15-2012, 05:28 PM
i agree somewhat but hendo(24) is young and up coming , and nash was in his mid 30's. i dnt see how hendo getting good minutes is less reasonable than kemba's increase in minutes when we just acquired a starting quality point-guard and i dnt know if ya noticed but kemba's in the summer lg and usually the summer lg is to judge where the player game is at or what progress has been made. that shows me that the team isn't 100% sold on kemba(his summer lg game wasnt that good) . even the kings sat out isaiah thomas for the summer league because he's pegged as their starting point guard.

Age doesn't matter. At his peak Nash never played more than 35 minutes per game. Again, look at the rest of the NBA. Only 50 guys played more than 33 minutes. What does that tell you? Up and coming has a lot less to do with it than needs. We needed Hendo to play a lot more minutes last year. We don't need him to play as many minutes this year. Our highest paid player plays the same position. And we have other capable backups that will get time there. It's unreasonable to expect Hendo to play more, barring injuries, with Gordon and Reggie Williams around.

As for Kemba, I don't think who gets sent to summer league has much to do with it. Kyrie Irving is considered one of the best young point guards in the league and was on his summer team.

Again, the COACH referred to Kemba as the "head," presumably the thing that leads the body. If that's the case, I'd expect him to start over a journeyman point guard who is not clearly better than the sophomore. Kemba is a valuable piece of the Bobcats future that needs to play to get better. Sessions is a relatively inexpensive veteran with a two year contract that just adds stability.

gm in training
07-15-2012, 06:08 PM
Age doesn't matter. At his peak Nash never played more than 35 minutes per game. Again, look at the rest of the NBA. Only 50 guys played more than 33 minutes. What does that tell you? Up and coming has a lot less to do with it than needs. We needed Hendo to play a lot more minutes last year. We don't need him to play as many minutes this year. Our highest paid player plays the same position. And we have other capable backups that will get time there. It's unreasonable to expect Hendo to play more, barring injuries, with Gordon and Reggie Williams around.

As for Kemba, I don't think who gets sent to summer league has much to do with it. Kyrie Irving is considered one of the best young point guards in the league and was on his summer team.

Again, the COACH referred to Kemba as the "head," presumably the thing that leads the body. If that's the case, I'd expect him to start over a journeyman point guard who is not clearly better than the sophomore. Kemba is a valuable piece of the Bobcats future that needs to play to get better. Sessions is a relatively inexpensive veteran with a two year contract that just adds stability.

do u mean the soph kyrie who was playing for the usa team ? also the teams best players usually leads the team in min or amongst the top .even though nash maxed out at 35min he didn't go nowhere near the 20's because his team may have not needed his services . well we all know that gerald isn't avg under 30 min because thats not even realistic .he averaged 24 min behind captain jack ? so why would he......?

dnbman
07-15-2012, 06:18 PM
do u mean the soph kyrie who was playing for the usa team ?

No, not the fictional Kyrie Irving that is on the Olympic team. The guy in this article:
http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-cavaliers/cleveland-cavaliers-1.275356/scott-on-irving-injury-that-was-just-something-stupid-on-his-part-1.320494


LAS VEGAS: Byron Scott was anxious to see his new starting backcourt of Kyrie Irving and Dion Waiters during summer league games this week.

Note: Kyrie was playing a scrimmage team against team USA.


also the teams best players usually leads the team in min or amongst the top .even though nash maxed out at 35min he didn't go nowhere near the 20's because his team may have not needed his services . well we all know that gerald isn't avg under 30 min because thats not even realistic .he averaged 24 min behind captain jack ? so why would he......?

We're talking about smaller degrees here. I don't think Hendo is going to be playing 20 minutes a game, but mid to high 20s would certainly seem realistic considering he plays at our deepest position. Again, it wouldn't be a knock on him to play less minutes unless he was being evaluated by superficial analysts who hold minutes played in especially high regard.

cltblkhscoach
07-17-2012, 03:58 AM
Ok, this is where we are right now overall:

PG: Kemba/Sessions
SG: Hendo/Gordon/Williams/Carroll
SF: MKG/Taylor/D.Brown
PF: Tyrus/Mullens
C: Biz/Haywood/Diop

We still have one roster spot left, and we know Higgins and DJ White are still remote possibilities. We know we want a Power Forward, and we have to decide by the end of the day whether or not to use the amnesty clause, with Diop being the only real candidate. If we have a real shot at Landry, we have to use the amnesty on Diop in order to get his salary under the cap. So today we should have some movement in some type of way hopefully.

Question is, who gets spot #15? Is it Higgins, DJ White, or someone else off the summer league roster? Or do we just leave it open and pick up another team's trash at the end of training camp? I wouldn't mind leaving it open honestly if we sign another power forward and amnesty Diop.

kitch0202
07-17-2012, 04:09 AM
Question is, who gets spot #15?

Hopefully nobody. I really want that spot left open to provide Cho with the maximum flexibility to trade/sign during the season.

Gordon can fill in as the 3rd option @ 1 if required, and Brown has the length to be 3rd option @ 4 (though Biz would probably see time there if needed).

I'd hate to see us use the Amnesty on Diop as his expiring contract is an asset to us and we have to keep the Amnesty in our back pocket for Tyrus if he doesn't get it together this season.

cltblkhscoach
07-17-2012, 05:29 AM
If we could sign a power forward real cheap, we wouldn't have to use the amnesty. But with us going after Landry and Humphries, we'd have no choice but to use it. I'd prefer to save it too honestly, hell we're gonna suck anyways but Landry would be nice...

Unless spot 15 is a difference maker that can crack the rotation I'd like to keep it open also. If we do fill it, I'd like someone with some real potential instead of washed up veterans unless they bring us another 1st round pick :)

superb1
07-17-2012, 06:16 AM
I think the FO will we burning up the phones today, gauging the plans of Landry and Humphries before pulling the plug on Diop. Ideal would be to save it but if it lands us someone significant, they will do it. As far as the 15th spot, I hope Higgins is gone, no real need for him, The back court is good and tight right now. So they may use it on DJW or another cheap free agent.

SWedd523
07-17-2012, 09:26 AM
Hopefully we buyout Hammer, sign a PF, and leave roster spot 15 open to rotate D League PGs all season as third stringers

Ghost Kat
07-17-2012, 10:04 AM
Having not read through the whole thread yet I find it ridiculous you folks keep putting MKG at the PF. Seriously what video game are you playing in your head to think that would work in real life

teej
07-17-2012, 05:22 PM
Having not read through the whole thread yet I find it ridiculous you folks keep putting MKG at the PF. Seriously what video game are you playing in your head to think that would work in real life

Not as a starter, but there are plenty of teams that go small. You did notice that the Celtics played Paul Pierce at the four spot for at least 15 mpg in the playoffs, right? Spurs played Jack at the 4. Knicks and Carmelo when Amar'e or Tyson sat down. We don't have a ton of good power forwards, and with the amount of running Dunlap wants to do, going with a small lineup makes sense now that we won't have a 5'11 shooting guard in said lineup.

DashGlobal
07-17-2012, 06:58 PM
I certainly think MKG can handle a few min at the PF spot. He has a strong lower body.

BubbaGolf
07-17-2012, 07:31 PM
Everyone is correct. As far as I am concerned positional designations are very overrated. For example, the Heat's starting lineup in the NBA Finals was:

PG: Chalmers
SG: Wade
SF: Battier
PF: James
C: Bosh

In reality the Heat Starting Lineup was:

PG: Chalmers
SG: Wade
SF: Battier
SF: Lebron
PF: Bosh

If the Bobcats were facing that lineup I would like for them to be out on the court with:

PG: Kemba
SG: Henderson
SF: Taylor
SF: Kidd-Gilchrist
C: Bismack

Even though you could "technically" argue that MKG was playing "Power Forward" in reality he is still playing Small Forward. It is okay for Kidd-Gilchrist to technically be the 4 in that lineup, but I would not want to see us playing MKG at the "4" if he was going to have to matchup against a LaMarcus Aldridge, Blake Griffin, Tim Duncan or somebody like that. That would just not be smart because MKG is only going to be 19 years and old and no matter how much you prepare yourself mentally and physically you are going to get beat up over the course of an NBA season. We don't need to wear him out by playing him out of position against big bodies that will bang on him all day long and wear him out.

cltblkhscoach
07-17-2012, 07:48 PM
Excellent point. I forget if it was Paul Silas or Jeff Van Gundy who said the NBA is getting away from those stereotypical positions we've always known and moving towards just wings and post players. How many true back to the basket players are out there now? It's great that we have more of an ability this year to be flexible with our matchups defensively.

SJackson1
07-17-2012, 08:38 PM
Kemba
Henderson
MKG
Mullens
Biyombo

Sessions
Gordon
Taylor
Thomas
Haywood

itsbcbaby
07-18-2012, 11:16 AM
Strange to see so many people automatically filling in Taylor as MKG's backup. D-Brown (behind Hendo) was probably our 2nd most consistently player last year. Granted, Taylor has looked good during the summer league, but remember, it's just summer league. This of course is assuming D-Brown will be back. Haven't heard any news of any offer sheets for him so at this point I'm assuming he will be back.

dnbman
07-18-2012, 11:36 AM
Strange to see so many people automatically filling in Taylor as MKG's backup. D-Brown (behind Hendo) was probably our 2nd most consistently player last year. Granted, Taylor has looked good during the summer league, but remember, it's just summer league. This of course is assuming D-Brown will be back. Haven't heard any news of any offer sheets for him so at this point I'm assuming he will be back.

I'm guessing most people are like me and see Taylor as a needed three point shooter with a nice skill set. Brown is more of a tweener that is more hustle than skill. Not to mention that many viewed Taylor as a first rounder that dropped, giving him more clout than a typical second rounder.

walkerisai
07-18-2012, 11:45 AM
I think the rotation has to look like this!!

PG: Walker-would like to see him develop as a passer this year and work on that jumper. Dude gets open when ever he wants then misses his wide open shots
SG: Henderson- He has to start over gorden because of walkers size. We would be too small to start Ben. But Henderson will break out this year... leads the team in scoring
SF: MKG-This up tempo style is going to cover up his bad jump shot.... Hell be fine and will push davis for ROY
PF: TT- I know everyone is bashing TT. But the dude can play and Coach will put him in check. He perfect for this offense. I believe hes gonna buy in once he gets in camp. He will flurish if he buys in!!!
C: Haywood- Hes only going to play 20-25 mins a game. So biz and mullens will rotate in alot

bench
PG: Sessions- Will be great coming off the bench and helping Walker develop
SG: Gorden- wins 6th man of the year..... MAYBE!
SF: Brown- Hes going to get the nod here because the dude plays soooo hard
PF: Biz- I think by the end of the year if he develops and keeps working like I have heard he'll end up starting at the C by the end of the yr
C: Mully- Hes like a cheap version of paul gasol. Streaky.... but I like his game

I think because we were so bad last year ppl are writing this team off. I know winning right now isn't the most important thing right now but the bottom of the east is weak. The bobats might just mess up and end up with a #7 or #8 seed!!

DashGlobal
07-18-2012, 01:06 PM
Mully a cheap version a Gasol?

Mully has much more range than Gasol and Gasol has a way better post game.

walkerisai
07-18-2012, 01:48 PM
In this way. Mully can hit threes and has some post game. But can't play defense or rebound. He's very streaky, shows up one game then the next he doesn't.... Who's that sound like.

Gasol may not have Mullys range... and Mullys post game isn't there yet as Gasols is
but the defense is the same!!!! The streakyness and the show ups and no show ups is.
They both are soft on the boards on on defense. In my opinions its a cheap Gasol!

SWedd523
07-18-2012, 02:06 PM
Not even remotely close to Gasol.


He more a poor man's Ryan Anderson or Channing Frye than anything resembling Gasol

DashGlobal
07-18-2012, 02:08 PM
I want the 7ft European that is on the Rockets summer league. That dude is straight SMOOTH.

raleigh
07-18-2012, 03:10 PM
I like the idea of Mullens playing next to Haywood to start games. Plus, I think he fits better next to the slashing of MKG and attacking of Kemba. At the first substitution, I would bring in Biyombo (in place of Mullens) and Gordon (in place of Kemba or Hendo).

If it were up to me, I'd have Sessions starting, but that's not Dunlap's intent. I also like the idea of having Brown (or Hunter) as a "small ball" 4.

Ten man:
PG- Kemba, Sessions
SG- Henderson, Gordon
SF- MKG, Taylor
PF- Mullens, TT
CR- Haywood, Biyombo

End of bench: Williams, Brown, Diop
IR: Carroll

gm in training
07-18-2012, 04:47 PM
Not even remotely close to Gasol.


He more a poor man's Ryan Anderson or Channing Frye than anything resembling Gasol

we finally agree.yeah at this point in mullens career he does resemble more of stretch 4 but during the summer lg games he is working on his post play unlike frye or anderson ,but i agree that his game at this point is more of a pf/sf skill set but unlike the rest of the players mentioned he does run the transition.

teej
07-19-2012, 01:05 AM
I want the 7ft European that is on the Rockets summer league. That dude is straight SMOOTH.

Donatas Motiejunas. He was their 1st rounder last year, and I've always loved his game.

As for Mullens, I always think of Memo Okur.

DashGlobal
07-19-2012, 04:43 AM
Donatas Motiejunas. He was their 1st rounder last year, and I've always loved his game.

Wondering if maybe we should have drafted him instead of Biz...

Love his game!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUWfVtO3h7o&feature=related