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[Charlotteisthebest]

So who is still out there on the market worth taking a look at:

Kris Humphries
Carl Landry
Anthony Randolph
Kenyon Martin
(bring back DJ white)

Who else is worth mentioning???


Go Bobcats, lets go 5-0 this summer! ;)

[mrtarheel]

I know he is another head case but if amnestied he would come real cheap. Can rebound, score, handle the ball, play multipule positions 6'11" 260lbs. The one and only Wiz Kid ANDRAY BLATCHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Twan's Kin]

Add Craig Smith to the list.

[westbrook08]

I know he is another head case but if amnestied he would come real cheap. Can rebound, score, handle the ball, play multipule positions 6'11" 260lbs. The one and only Wiz Kid ANDRAY BLATCHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! A hundred fucking thousand times NO! We have a good locker loom that cares about each other and is buying into coach d's system right now.We've gone as far as we can this off season.No reason to overpay landry or bring in spoiled primadonna's like blatche or randolph.Let mullens,tyrus,and a re-signed dj white compete and see what we have and we'll make more calculated,reasonable moves next off season.We've done well the last month.Let's call it a day and let our young guys go play.And fuck it,bring back ups and that'll give us 15 players.We can have cory higgins play in the d-league or get the front office coffee this year! lol.

[Black]

The only thing that would be appealing about Blatche is how cheap he would be. I don't think he's worth the small gamble it would take.

[Adam42R]

I know he is another head case but if amnestied he would come real cheap. Can rebound, score, handle the ball, play multipule positions 6'11" 260lbs. The one and only Wiz Kid ANDRAY BLATCHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look at our roster, our FO moves over the last 9 months, our PR campaign.... Blatche fits us about as good as orange juice goes well with toothpaste.

[cltblkhscoach]

He's a restricted free agent with the Hawks, but I remember him being annoying as hell last year, and that's Ivan Johnson. Rugged 6'8/6'9 player who fights you for every rebound and plays with great effort. Kind of the anti-Tyrus, lol. I wouldn't mind seeing him here for the right amount of money.

[Charlotteisthebest]

What about her, I think we would have a nice boost in attendance if we had her in the starting 5 every night haha ;)
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[Plowright]

I would go with Randolph, I know its a gamble but we could get him on a short (2 year contract) for say 3 mill a year. Perhaps being with the Charlotte Bobcats would be a good fit for him, out of the spotlight, a coach who will aim to develop him

[tamburello]

Kenyon Martin would be another option. I believe he can still contribute more than TT. But we can't sign him for vet min, even sth like $3 million might not be enough because he's earned enough and he wants championship now.

One guy that can sign for vet. min is Yi Jianlian, but he's an underachiever and certainly not a starting caliber player. I wouldn't mind DJ White back, for the right price.

Today is the last day to amnesty a player this season, so expect a move from our front office if they really want a player like Carl Landry.

[Plowright]

I really dont want DJ White back here, not because he is particuarly bad... but just because I want a new fresh roster, clear out all the scrubs from that awful team we had last year. I also dont want us to go anywhere near Blatch, even if he does come cheap. You can't polish a turd.

Randolph is my option

[superb1]

At this I'll go with bringing back DJW. Let's give TT a fighting chance to see what he is capable of and let me earn his contract. We probably still need another year to suck and probably will. We will win about 20+ games, so we will improve. We don't need to tie up too much more money in guys the are not part of our future. we have picked up guys this summer already who will help us but not part of our core. After next season, we rid ourselves of Diop and Carroll (if not gone already by trade deadline) and if Tyrus has not worked out, we can amnesty him and use that cap space next summer. As far as Blathe, we have one head case project for Dunlap, we don't need another. But if we had to bring someone in Carl Landry and maybe Yi (for the same reason Tamb stated) would be my picks.

[Plowright]

Add Jordan Hill to that list... I think what were going after is a vet presence, maybe thats why were not looking into DJW, Randolph? Maybe Cho has said, okay thats enough we dont want any more young guys on the roster

I have the answer to all our questions, lets bring back Domin.. wait who the fuck was that guy? Oh Yeah Dominic Mcguire!!!!

[superb1]

I forgot about Jordan Hill. I think we have enough vets here

[isguros]

I don't think we need to add a power forward anymore. We already got Tyrus. And with Haywood on the team I won't be surprised if Bismack is going to play some minutes at the 4 position. So unless we amnesty Thomas, or make a (stupid) trade, I don't see any problem in giving White a one year contract to fill the garbage minutes.

[westbrook08]

I would take white back or sign jordan hill.But if we sign any of the 4's left @ this point it needs to be on a one year deal so that we can keep all of our flexibility for next year.

[Mustachio]

DJ White all the way.

[Black]

Humphries getting twelve million a year to stay with the Nets.

It might be time to force ourselves to jump on the Tyrus bandwagon.

[ohara831]

Posted it in the Free Agent thread. Man, they overpaid him badly. They are screwing themselves with these contracts.

[Black]

Posted it in the Free Agent thread. Man, they overpaid him badly. They are screwing themselves with these contracts.


David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
Don't have it down to the dollar, but new deals for Deron, Wallace, Lopez, Hump, Watson, Stack, plus JJ contract, in neighborhood of..$325M.


Insanity. I can't say a blame them really, they need to make a huge splash.

[polarcat]

WOW to Humphries' new contract. As for what's left on the scrap heap, I'm all for bringing in Jordan Hill, DJ White or someone on the cheap that we don't have to make a serious commitment to. If we would've gotten Jamison, Humphries, Scola, etc. it would've added too much commitment to a player that was older and would've probably added a few more W's that could've affected draft position. Plus, like many others, I would rather save the amnesty clause for Tyrus next summer. Diop is a bum, so let his rich, bum-ass ride the pine all year on a bad team, than sign as a random chip on a contender like Diaw and Morrison did.

[Black]

We offered Humphries 3 years/28 million.


Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Kris Humphries 2-year, $24 million deal with Nets totally guaranteed,his co-agent Byron Irvin tells Y! Source said CHA offered 3-yr, $28mill

[murphman]

^ I'm glad we didn't pay that. Kris is pretty good but 9.4 million per year would wipe out a lot of our cap space next summer. Probably most of it.

[Charlotteisthebest]

Golden State is pretty high on Kenyon Martin right now, that might leave the door wide open for us to go in and grab Carl Landry.

I would be fine with either:
Carl Landry
Jordan Hill
Anthony Rand.
DJ White


Looking forward to seeing if we use the amnesty or not today, and also big time looking forward to the summer game tonight against the Wolves, MKG is expected to play!

[TheBeagle]

We offered Humphries 3 years/28 million. Ooof. Thank you, Brooklyn. If Tyrus wasn't on the books, I'd be okay, but no way can we have that much money wrapped up in a couple of 4s who just aren't worth nearly that much combined money, amnesty or no.

[Charlotteisthebest]

As far as I am concerned Carl Landry should be our top target right now.

[polarcat]

As far as I am concerned Carl Landry should be our top target right now.

As nice as Landry would be, for the price tag and having to use the amnesty clause on Diop makes me not want him. We aren't trying to tank this coming season, but I don't think we should be tying money up in a player that isn't our long-term goal at the 4 and pushing us out of the top-5 in the draft. Landry is oft-injured, undersized and outside of one huge season, he averages about 11ppg over his career. If there's a way that we don't have to amnesty Diop or Caroll, and the price tag/length of contract is reasonable, I'd take him. Unfortunately, he is the last "decent" FA out there at the 4 and I don't think we will get him on a cheap enough deal to make it worth it.

[spectre]

Would the price for Landry be that high? Who else besides GSW is interested in him? I'm limited here in looking up things but last I remember GSW didn't have but like a couple million to offer.

[Charlotteisthebest]

Would the price for Landry be that high? Who else besides GSW is interested in him? I'm limited here in looking up things but last I remember GSW didn't have but like a couple million to offer.

Agree, I think we could get him today if we played our cards right, it would certainly make me happy.

[superb1]

the Lakers and Magic are talking a D12 trade again. maybe we can get involved somehow and bring in a re-signed Jordan Hill and extra goodies like a pick. But our cap is about capped and slim, I'll throw in Williams, Diop or Carroll.

[BrotherDave]

Screw DJ White, we saw what he is last year, a waste of a roster spot. I'd rather sign somebody like Al Thornton for cheap b/c at least he can do more than shoot J's from the FT line.

[GoBobs]

I would rather just find some talent in the summer league that another team doesn't have a roster spot for

[westbrook08]

Screw DJ White, we saw what he is last year, a waste of a roster spot. I'd rather sign somebody like Al Thornton for cheap b/c at least he can do more than shoot J's from the FT line.

How do you figure he's a waste of a roster spot? He came in and rebounded and scored well in the low block in limited minutes.He even got a few starts last year and did pretty good.We're not trying to sign him as a long term starter, but as a 2nd or 3rd power forward i think he's great.Plus he's a young kid whom we've already invested time in who still seems to be working hard and improving.Why not keep him? To overpay for someone who's not gonna really make us any better?

[SJackson1]

I think Dunlap likes Mullens at Power Foward and i think he will be a better player playing at the 4.

[Black]

Scratch Randolph off the list.


John Hollinger ‏@johnhollinger
also, @nuggetsnews says Birdman a last-second amnesty and Nuggies sign anthony Randolph


Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Nuggets signed Wolves free agent forward Anthony Randolph to a three-year deal paying $6 million, source tells Yahoo! Sports.

Great deal for Denver.

[BrotherDave]

How do you figure he's a waste of a roster spot? He came in and rebounded and scored well in the low block in limited minutes.He even got a few starts last year and did pretty good.We're not trying to sign him as a long term starter, but as a 2nd or 3rd power forward i think he's great.Plus he's a young kid whom we've already invested time in who still seems to be working hard and improving.Why not keep him? To overpay for someone who's not gonna really make us any better?
What? No! He did none of that. He's a turnstile on defense, he needs a week to jump high so most rebounds evade him, he runs like he is smuggling a ship in a bottle in his bum, and all he does is look to shoot his little push shot jumper.

[Black]

White had a chance to prove himself at the end of the season and he failed. I liked him, but I could take him or leave him at this point.

[BlockParty]

Give that last roster spot to Othello Hunter..he's earned an opportunity to be invited to training camp, and he'll definitely out work Diop and possibly Tyrus.

And there is room for UPS and Hunter (as long as we don't sign anyone else).

[dnbman]

Give that last roster spot to Othello Hunter..he's earned an opportunity to be invited to training camp, and he'll definitely out work Diop and possibly Tyrus.

And there is room for UPS and Hunter (as long as we don't sign anyone else).

Wasn't he the one that took it in the face tonight? That should count for something.

[BlockParty]

Wasn't he the one that took it in the face tonight? That should count for something.

He's a Dunlap type of guy, grind it out, etc. Hard to go wrong when the guy gives so much effort, nearly a double double tonight for a guy that didn't even start (and game that lasts 40 minutes).

[westbrook08]

What? No! He did none of that. He's a turnstile on defense, he needs a week to jump high so most rebounds evade him, he runs like he is smuggling a ship in a bottle in his bum, and all he does is look to shoot his little push shot jumper.

Dude your out of your mind.He had very good rebounding numbers in limited minutes and he has a nice 15 footer.You must not have watched him play very much.And if you don't think he's worth a roster spot then you must have forgotten about the sean may days pretty quick.I'll gladly take what white gives us off the end of the bench.

[spectre]

White is a low BBIQ player that did one thing decently. I can't count how many times our team D failed because of him.

[ohara831]

Anthony Randolph to the Nuggets. They let Bird Man go.

[superb1]

I think Othello has been in summer league for a couple of summers now. Even that should count too

sent from the pseudo GM offices of the Charlotte Bobcats.

[SJackson1]

i wanted Humphries or Scola but its dissapointing that we didn't push to try and sign one of them becasue they would have added alot to our roster.

[Black]

i wanted Humphries or Scola but its dissapointing that we didn't push to try and sign one of them becasue they would have added alot to our roster.

We did push to sign Humphries, and I think we probably put a bid in on Scola. Things just didn't work out.

[Mustachio]

We did push to sign Humphries, and I think we probably put a bid in on Scola. Things just didn't work out.


exactly... the front office has made an attempt at almost every decent free agent big. Just not dumb gigantic contracts.

[westbrook08]

Honestly @ this point i'm not disappointed.I want them to sign cheap 4 on a one year deal so we can see what we have.Mullens looks like he's getting ready to break out and thomas has supposedly already put on 20 pounds of muscle this off season and is still working as we speak.If those 2 can actually step up we may be a vastly improved team this year.And i honestly think we need to give those guys some playing time and see if they really want it.If not,we always have the option of using the amnesty clause on tyrus(which i think becomes more likely next off season if he doesn't produce) and pursuing ibaka or another young 4 down the road.No one on the market that's left right now is worth us displacing our young talent.

[Black]

Honestly @ this point i'm not disappointed.I want them to sign cheap 4 on a one year deal so we can see what we have.Mullens looks like he's getting ready to break out and thomas has supposedly already put on 20 pounds of muscle this off season and is still working as we speak.If those 2 can actually step up we may be a vastly improved team this year.And i honestly think we need to give those guys some playing time and see if they really want it.If not,we always have the option of using the amnesty clause on tyrus(which i think becomes more likely next off season if he doesn't produce) and pursuing ibaka or another young 4 down the road.No one on the market that's left right now is worth us displacing our young talent.

I agree. The way we're currently constructed, we either get a pleasant surprise with Mullens and Thomas stepping up, and we're better than we expected, or, we struggle at power forward, get a better pick, and still have the amnesty for Thomas, and a lot of cap space with Diop, Carroll, and Thomas off the books.

Us being active in free agency is enough for me even though we struck out a lot.

[BrotherDave]

Dude your out of your mind.He had very good rebounding numbers in limited minutes and he has a nice 15 footer.You must not have watched him play very much.And if you don't think he's worth a roster spot then you must have forgotten about the sean may days pretty quick.I'll gladly take what white gives us off the end of the bench.

No way, I watched every Bobcat's game last season but a handful of known slaughters. You must be J White's cousin or something b/c that dude is an awful player. Sean May with a bad knee had more NBA skill than White.

[spectre]

Honestly @ this point i'm not disappointed.I want them to sign cheap 4 on a one year deal so we can see what we have.Mullens looks like he's getting ready to break out and thomas has supposedly already put on 20 pounds of muscle this off season and is still working as we speak.If those 2 can actually step up we may be a vastly improved team this year.And i honestly think we need to give those guys some playing time and see if they really want it.If not,we always have the option of using the amnesty clause on tyrus(which i think becomes more likely next off season if he doesn't produce) and pursuing ibaka or another young 4 down the road.No one on the market that's left right now is worth us displacing our young talent.

I like the tone of this and it's a good way to think.

IMO Mully is going to improve a lot under Dunlap; he's already doing better at boarding and at overall D. He's hustling getting in the passing lanes and he's doing more "big guy" things inside.

Tyrus had the team's best PER year before last and as stated above there definitely seemed to be something wrong with him this past season. I don't think he's ever going to get strong BBIQ but he can be a very serviceable player.

Take a chance on an unproven backup 4. Might gain a free asset out of it.

[Black]

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
Rockets announce they have waived Jon Leuer and Jerome Jordan.

Both very young, very cheap bigs.

[westbrook08]

Both very young, very cheap bigs.

And both suck! lol.

[Plowright]

Jon Leuer had a pretty good season last year, he will land on a roster somewhere. I also remember we worked him out last year and we didn't have any 2nd rounders so he must have been someone we thought about trading or buying into the draft for as he was always going to get drafted. Whenever he got playing time last year he really produced, have a look here if you don't believe me http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jon_leuer/game_by_game_stats.html

We all forgot about Jermain O'Neal... he says he feels the best he has in 5 years as he has been constantly playing through injuries. However, I dont think he would have any interest in signing here to be honst :/

[dnbman]

However, I dont think he would have any interest in signing here to be honst :/

Here's from down the road in Columbia, but I think I've heard he may go minimum to play with the Lakers.

[Plowright]

I know he worked out for them, but maybe with them getting Jamison they may not go after him now

[notdeadyet]

OMG; in looking at Wiki, Jerome Jordan went to Florida Air Academy in Melbourne, FL, where I grew up!!
Another guy who has intrigued me for a while, played for Dallas last season. A legit 7'0" who early on in the NBA was too light for PF or C, so played mostly SF. Always puzzled me why he hadn't developed. Now I see he's bulked up to 250. If he'd come here cheap, he might benefit from Dunlap's no-nonsense style and hands-on coaching. http://www.nba.com/playerfile/yi_jianlian/

[SWedd523]

OMG; in looking at Wiki, Jerome Jordan went to Florida Air Academy in Melbourne, FL, where I grew up!!
Another guy who has intrigued me for a while, played for Dallas last season. A legit 7'0" who early on in the NBA was too light for PF or C, so played mostly SF. Always puzzled me why he hadn't developed. Now I see he's bulked up to 250. If he'd come here cheap, he might benefit from Dunlap's no-nonsense style and hands-on coaching. http://www.nba.com/playerfile/yi_jianlian/
He hadn't developed because he was 26 when he came into the league

[Plowright]

I love how everyone thinks that under Dunlap below average guys can suddenly flourish into players twice what they were before... He is not Superman!

[notdeadyet]

He hadn't developed because he was 26 when he came into the league

Yi is listed as being 24 NOW...

[notdeadyet]

I love how everyone thinks that under Dunlap below average guys can suddenly flourish into players twice what they were before... He is not Superman!
Often it's a question of how much TIME is a coach going to spend one on one with a young NOT YET developed player. On a team with a lot of established vets, he is more likely to spend most of his time with them, working to better the team's core to get deeper into the playoffs. On a team such as ours, a coach is looking to develop anyone and everyone willing to put in the extra work, and Dunlap is already showing signs of doing that.
LOL; not Superman, but let's hope he's SuperCoach...

[isguros]

He is not Superman!

Ofcourse he's not Superman, Superman has a weakness. :P
I know dunlap is just a normal human being like the rest of us, but sometimes al it takes to make from a good player a great player is a small change. after what Jeremy Lin did last year or even someone Byron Mullens. They couldn't have done all that with just any coach. Lin benifitted from the up tempo offence d'antoni played, and the same thing goed for Mullens and the 'shoot every time you touch the ball' offence which Silas used. Dunlap is no superman, he's a Batman at most, but for some that's all what it takes to jump-start their carreer.

[Black]

John Hollinger ‏@johnhollinger
Will be very surprised if a Charlotte or New Orleans type team doesn't claim Leuer on waivers. Solid rookie year.

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[SWedd523]

But Leuer is sooooo white

[Black]

As much as I hate white people, I'd be willing to take him.

[BrotherDave]

But Leuer is sooooo white

And yet the Bucks didn't want to keep him. Hmm. Something doesn't add up here.

[LiquidWayno]

Landry at a reasonable price is a great choice, but I like Leuer as well. Yi Jianlan kind of sucks, but would have no pressure if he played here. Heck, China might make him the 2nd all-star in team history.

[amour217]

I wonder if someone like Andrei Kirilenko would be willing to do a short-term deal here...though I've been reading so far the Nets are the best bet for him

[tamburello]

Leuer is claimed by the Cavs, it was highly expected.

[Black]

Jordan Hill staying in LA.