Fall Out New Vegas

[dnbman]

As most of you know, I'm behind the times.

Picked up Dawnguard and New Vegas with a gift card two days ago. (Dawnguard looks promising.)

Like Fall Out 3, New Vegas has been pretty awesome. Love the open world. Love the intrigue. Good story so far.

Can't wait for another Fall Out game after what Bethesda has learned from Skyrim.

[bing!]

Oh, you absolutely MUST get the all the DLC for New Vegas. Old Wold Blues is pure genius (well, Avellone is the genius in question, but that attribute is a given). You should also read All Roads, the prequel comic written by the Man himself.

As for Fallout 4, I'm hoping Bethesda lets Obsidian handle the storytelling (let's be honest, NV is the true successor to the spirit of the classic Fallout games) whilst keeping the reins over design. I can't wait to see the engine they used for Skyrim in all its, post-apocalyptic, glory.

[captaincrunk]

i played about 16 hours of new vegas but it's hard for me to get into the character development since it's so disconnected

[dnbman]

Oh, you absolutely MUST get the all the DLC for New Vegas. Old Wold Blues is pure genius (well, Avellone is the genius in question, but that attribute is a given). You should also read All Roads, the prequel comic written by the Man himself.

As for Fallout 4, I'm hoping Bethesda lets Obsidian handle the storytelling (let's be honest, NV is the true successor to the spirit of the classic Fallout games) whilst keeping the reins over design. I can't wait to see the engine they used for Skyrim in all its, post-apocalyptic, glory.

Yeah, I got a used copy of the ultimate edition. Actually installing disk 2 now before I start back up again.

I see what you mean about New Vegas being closer to the first two games, but I thought Fallout 3 fit very nicely with the first two games. I only played about 10 minutes of Tactics and stopped.

As for the character development, that usually takes place over a long time in these games. Basically, you're the "chosen one" in each game, and you develop what that means through the course of the game.

[TheBeagle]

As most of you know, I'm behind the times.

Picked up Dawnguard and New Vegas with a gift card two days ago. (Dawnguard looks promising.)

Like Fall Out 3, New Vegas has been pretty awesome. Love the open world. Love the intrigue. Good story so far.

Can't wait for another Fall Out game after what Bethesda has learned from Skyrim. It's been probably 10 months since I played it so I can't exactly remember the plot, but what I disliked about New Vegas was the lack of choice. If I remeber anything at all, it seemed that you either had to serve the dude who was in charge of New Vegas or you had to use the AI to take over New Vegas. I prefered to just fly under the radar and do my own thing and kind of play each side against the other, but the questlines didn't give me that option. I didn't play long enough to discover maybe it did allow you to do that and not HAVE to be a glorified underling, or the kingpin. Other than that, I did enjoy the story, loved the companions I met, I just didn't like feeling boxed in on choices.

Like you, I love Bethesda's take on Fallout and really look forward to seeing what they can do with the tech advances they made for Skyrim. Only thing is, it'll likely be a next-gen game, so who knows when/if we're gonna see it, that is, a Beth developed Fallout.

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It's been probably 10 months since I played it so I can't exactly remember the plot, but what I disliked about New Vegas was the lack of choice. If I remeber anything at all, it seemed that you either had to serve the dude who was in charge of New Vegas or you had to use the AI to take over New Vegas.

The player, additionally, also has the option to side with either NCR or the Legion (different quest lines). Siding with the AI (Yes Man) is basically doing your own thing and manipulating everybody (doing their quests, reaping the benefits and laying the groundwork for Vegas' independence) till the point they realize that you're doing it. I don't know how much time you spent on the game, but of all of the entries in the Fallout universe, FNV gives the player the most options on how to tackle the quests or deal with your companions (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_endings).

Heh, all this talking about FNV has prompted me to install it again. Curses. :facepalm:

[captaincrunk]

I've been playing the Witcher recently. It's pretty good

[SWedd523]

I hate getting a MOAB at the very end of a game and not being able to call it in because some doofus decides he wants to grab the tags

[dnbman]

Killed Caesar last night by just rushing in the fort. Good stuff.

[bing!]

You should've killed him during surgery. Heh, my first Courier was one sneaky bastard.

[dnbman]

Just talked to Ricky in the Northern Passage.

Lolz.

On special abilities:
"I've got a third nut that glows in the dark."

[TheBeagle]

I've been playing the Witcher recently. It's pretty good No. It's insanely good. The most mature game I've ever played both in terms of plot and content. A fabulous, fabulous game that everyone remotely interested in RPGs MUST play.

OT: Yeah, all this talk about NV, I think I'll have to pop it back in too. Kudos, dnb, for taking out Ceaser in his fort and living to tell the tale. Because of my hate for him, I opted for killing him, but his lackeys kept working me over. What difficulty are you playing on and what level is the character? I always play Bethesda RPGs on Hard, but maybe so I can survive the assassination I could toggle over to easy for a quick bit.

[dnbman]

What difficulty are you playing on and what level is the character?

I probably should switch to hard, but right now I'm on normal. Level 19, with a high intelligence and agility, specializing in guns, speech, and lockpicking.

[Toocool]

I never got around to playing Fallout 3. Bought it at the recent steam sale, and starting to really enjoy it (especially since I've raised my small gun stat to the point where VATS can actually hit).

[dnbman]

I never got around to playing Fallout 3. Bought it at the recent steam sale, and starting to really enjoy it (especially since I've raised my small gun stat to the point where VATS can actually hit).

That Steam sale was pretty crazy. I want a gaming PC just to take advantage of that and all the indie games not on XBox.

Fallout 3 is what made me buy an XBox in the first place. Loved it. New Vegas might be better.

[captaincrunk]

No. It's insanely good. The most mature game I've ever played both in terms of plot and content. A fabulous, fabulous game that everyone remotely interested in RPGs MUST play.

OT: Yeah, all this talk about NV, I think I'll have to pop it back in too. Kudos, dnb, for taking out Ceaser in his fort and living to tell the tale. Because of my hate for him, I opted for killing him, but his lackeys kept working me over. What difficulty are you playing on and what level is the character? I always play Bethesda RPGs on Hard, but maybe so I can survive the assassination I could toggle over to easy for a quick bit.

The combat of the first one is a bit of a let down, and both 1 and 2 are a little unpolished. But yes, it's definitely something any RPG lover should play

[TheBeagle]

I never got around to playing Fallout 3. Bought it at the recent steam sale, and starting to really enjoy it (especially since I've raised my small gun stat to the point where VATS can actually hit). VATS headshots are epic in Fallout 3...seeing a head explode in slow-mo is both disturbing and gratifying. One of my top 5 games of all-time...LOVE Fallout 3. There's just this huge attatchment I got from my character from being there at his birth, and controlling him as a toddler....when I left the vault for the first time it was amazing! I guess that's why I've always been a little lukewarm with NV: that lack of attatchment, coming in in medias res with a character that already has a backstory; just doesn't have that same sense of wonder. Though, in its defense, there are a number of improvements over Fallout 3. Like I said earlier, I'll get back into it and give it another go.

[dnbman]

VATS headshots are epic in Fallout 3...seeing a head explode in slow-mo is both disturbing and gratifying. One of my top 5 games of all-time...LOVE Fallout 3. There's just this huge attatchment I got from my character from being there at his birth, and controlling him as a toddler....when I left the vault for the first time it was amazing! I guess that's why I've always been a little lukewarm with NV: that lack of attatchment, coming in in medias res with a character that already has a backstory; just doesn't have that same sense of wonder. Though, in its defense, there are a number of improvements over Fallout 3. Like I said earlier, I'll get back into it and give it another go.

Honestly, while the game play is similar, they're pretty different experiences. Both are fantastic. Unless you are arriving at these games with a deep bias towards some very specific elements of the franchise, I think anyone who likes one would enjoy the other.

One argument I've heard about most of Bethesda's RPG's is that most or your choices don't make a significant difference in the game, aside from getting an item or weapon. I would definitely like to see more of that, especially with the factions. One subplot I loved in Fallout 3 was the hotel in the south west. Your decisions there seemed to have more gravity, and I with there were more moments like that in the game other than just right thing to do/wrong thing to do options.

[westbrook08]

I got an early copy of new vegas and it was really glitchy but i liked the game ok.I'm having the same problem with skyrim.I've actually had to stop playing it because i keep picking up something that's causing a glitch to activate that makes the whole screen flash like a strobe light when my guy moves anywhere and i can't figure out what it is.I love the concepts of bethesda's games but they are so fucking glitchy.And if anyone knows what thing i'm talking about on skyrim is i would love some help with that.Thanks!

[dnbman]

PS3? (I'm on 360.)

Fortunately, I haven't had any major glitches with any Bethesda games aside from a few weird animation bits (creatures doing weird things) and standard 3d flaws, like characters getting stuck in places. In Skyrim I had one minor quest mess up when a character wouldn't give me a dialogue option, but other than that it's been great.

It's strange when I hear people say how terrible the problems are, but I've rarely seen them. However, enough people report them that they clearly exist. Last night I read a long discussion on Bethesda games after a blog critiquing the DLC. I tended to side with the folks that said you just have to accept the issues with such an ambitious game. I'm sure I'd feel different if I was 100+ hours in and something broke my ability to move forward.

[westbrook08]

Well i've heard that most of the glitches are on PS3 which is what i bought those 2 games for.I have fallout 3 on 360 and haven't had any problems so that might be true.

[dnbman]

Well i've heard that most of the glitches are on PS3 which is what i bought those 2 games for.I have fallout 3 on 360 and haven't had any problems so that might be true.

It's pretty strange. Clearly, the 360 is a serious seller for Bethesda and gets a lot of love from them, so I'm sure the game is initially optimized for the console. I'm just surprised how the port to PS3 can be so glitchy.

[westbrook08]

It's pretty strange. Clearly, the 360 is a serious seller for Bethesda and gets a lot of love from them, so I'm sure the game is initially optimized for the console. I'm just surprised how the port to PS3 can be so glitchy.

Well it definitely is.I can attest to that first hand.

[CampNightmare8]

I've got Fallout 3 & New Vegas but at the moment i'm playing Fallout 3. I'll play New Vegas after I beat the main game and all the DLC's. Easily one of my top 5 favorite games ever. Favorite RPG, and that's saying a lot since I used to be a big Skyrim fan haha. This game's story is just so much better than Skyrim, and the fact that it's sort of in the future and you can make your own story in the sense that you can kill whoever you want and DO whatever you want in the game and it effect's the outcome.

Fallout is one addictive game haha. It's serving me well till 2K13 :)

[dnbman]

I've got Fallout 3 & New Vegas but at the moment i'm playing Fallout 3. I'll play New Vegas after I beat the main game and all the DLC's. Easily one of my top 5 favorite games ever. Favorite RPG, and that's saying a lot since I used to be a big Skyrim fan haha. This game's story is just so much better than Skyrim, and the fact that it's sort of in the future and you can make your own story in the sense that you can kill whoever you want and DO whatever you want in the game and it effect's the outcome.

Fallout is one addictive game haha. It's serving me well till 2K13 :)

Fallout 3 is definitely in my top 5 too, but I've played far less games than a lot of people on here. I've spent more time in Skyrim, but I thought Fallout 3 was a more enjoyable game. I just hope they make another one using the advances from Skyrim.

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There were some rumors regarding a couple of Bethesda guys scoping out some locations in Boston (MIT in particular). This is relevant because of...

- http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/The_Institute

... and...

- http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/The_Commonwealth

In F3, there was a quest involving a runaway android, a guy from the Commonwealth who was looking for him and a representative of the Railroad who was trying to help him. It'd be cool if those rumors ended up being true, what with the subtle foreshadowing and all.

[CampNightmare8]

Fallout 3 is definitely in my top 5 too, but I've played far less games than a lot of people on here. I've spent more time in Skyrim, but I thought Fallout 3 was a more enjoyable game. I just hope they make another one using the advances from Skyrim.

Yeah love Skyrim