View Full Version : Harden traded to Rockets!!!
harden, cole aldrich and filler for kevin martin, jeremy lamb and "significant draft considerations"
okc wins.
edit picks: dallas and toronto 2013 picks as well as Charlotte 2013 2nd
Twan's Kin
10-27-2012, 11:29 PM
Which backcourt would you rather have-- Jeremy Lin and James Harden
or
Deron Williams and Joe Johnson
??
superb1
10-27-2012, 11:29 PM
This is jaw dropping
sent from the pseudo GM offices of the Charlotte Bobcats.
fan_of_a_fan
10-27-2012, 11:30 PM
OKC just committed 10 counts of 'NBA robbery' in the first degree
Which backcourt would you rather have-- Jeremy Lin and James Harden
or
Deron Williams and Joe Johnson
??
lin and harden all day. assuming money counts.
SWedd523
10-27-2012, 11:52 PM
Hell no. Deron is an elite PG and a top 10 NBA player and Lin is nowhere near that caliber. Right now, Joe and Harden are a wash.
Toocool
10-28-2012, 12:15 AM
Wow Rockets just shot themselves in the foot.
Plowright
10-28-2012, 06:12 AM
Is it weird that I like this deal for Houston? They get their go to guy, plus Cole Aldrich who has had a really good pre season and some bench guys who will do a job. Only thing is if Harden doesnt sign an extensions with Houston then they gave up Martin, Lamb and their picks for nothing
isguros
10-28-2012, 06:18 AM
The disturbing thing is; this deal only makes sence for the Rockets if they're extending Harden's contract.
Hell no. Deron is an elite PG and a top 10 NBA player and Lin is nowhere near that caliber. Right now, Joe and Harden are a wash.
i am not sure deron is top 10 anymore. in fact i am not sure he is a top 5 pg anymore. he has played like ass the last 2 1/2 years. yes his team sucks but he has sucked pretty bad too. i think my top 5 pg's might be paul, rose, westbrook, rondo, irving or nash.
Is it weird that I like this deal for Houston? They get their go to guy, plus Cole Aldrich who has had a really good pre season and some bench guys who will do a job. Only thing is if Harden doesnt sign an extensions with Houston then they gave up Martin, Lamb and their picks for nothing
that is why i think it is a good trade. generally when half the people think one team one and the other half think the other team one, it is a pretty even trade.
big risk was for okc. you never want to break up a contender unless you absolutely have to and they didn't have too right now.
SWedd523
10-28-2012, 10:52 AM
i am not sure deron is top 10 anymore. in fact i am not sure he is a top 5 pg anymore. he has played like ass the last 2 1/2 years. yes his team sucks but he has sucked pretty bad too. i think my top 5 pg's might be paul, rose, westbrook, rondo, irving or nash.
Hate to do this, but LOL
Deron is the only player in the entire league to average 20/10/4/1 combined over the past two years. Not Paul, Westbrook, Rondo, Nash, or Kyrie. Deron averaged 8.7 assists last year passing the ball to Kris Humphries and... Shelden Williams. That's incredible.
He is very clearly a top 2-3 PG in the league and without a doubt a top 10 overall player
He's one of only 6 players in NBA history to average 18/9/3/1. That puts him with Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, Oscar Robertson, Kevin Johhnson, and Chris Paul.
Not to mention that he's one of only 3 players in NBA history to average over 19/9 for his career in the playoffs. Those three? Deron, Paul, and Magic.
So if by "sucked pretty bad too" you mean "the most productive PG in the league" then I agree
Hate to do this, but LOL
Deron is the only player in the entire league to average 20/10/4/1 combined over the past two years. Not Paul, Westbrook, Rondo, Nash, or Kyrie. Deron averaged 8.7 assists last year passing the ball to Kris Humphries and... Shelden Williams. That's incredible.
He is very clearly a top 2-3 PG in the league and without a doubt a top 10 overall player
He's one of only 6 players in NBA history to average 18/9/3/1. That puts him with Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, Oscar Robertson, Kevin Johhnson, and Chris Paul.
Not to mention that he's one of only 3 players in NBA history to average over 19/9 for his career in the playoffs. Those three? Deron, Paul, and Magic.
So if by "sucked pretty bad too" you mean "the most productive PG in the league" then I agree
can't argue with stats and those are much more impressive than i thought. you win, but when i watch him since he left utah, i am very very unimpressed. when he was with utah i agree he was often tied with paul as best pg in the league, but my eyes tell me a different story when i see him playing on the nets.
Plowright
10-28-2012, 11:08 AM
Sign of a good point guard is when you don't notice him, as he is so good at getting the ball to his teammates when They need it. Plus he can take over... Eg his 50+ point game against us
SWedd523
10-28-2012, 11:28 AM
can't argue with stats and those are much more impressive than i thought. you win, but when i watch him since he left utah, i am very very unimpressed. when he was with utah i agree he was often tied with paul as best pg in the league, but my eyes tell me a different story when i see him playing on the nets.
He was mighty impressive in this one against us:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgVcR5mXQHE
He was mighty impressive in this one against us:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgVcR5mXQHE
just for fun. if you were either of these two teams would you do this one:
okc out: martin, serge, toronto pick for port out: aldrige, wes matthews
a lineup of westbrook, matthews, durant, aldrige and perkins will beat both the lakers and spurs and make the heat really really work to beat them.
SWedd523
10-28-2012, 12:14 PM
I think OKC would probably do it but Portland wouldn't. Martin was mostly contract filler and has value as a large expiring when he gets there. Serge is a great shot blocker, but isn't an elite rebounder and is an overrated defensive player. Aldridge is a star, adds a bit more size, and can provide interior scoring that they definitely use and Wes Matthews is a better player than he's given credit for
I think OKC would probably do it but Portland wouldn't. Martin was mostly contract filler and has value as a large expiring when he gets there. Serge is a great shot blocker, but isn't an elite rebounder and is an overrated defensive player. Aldridge is a star, adds a bit more size, and can provide interior scoring that they definitely use and Wes Matthews is a better player than he's given credit for
yeah, i thought about it for a minute. the blazers need more value and it assumes they are going to go with a rebuild, which i think they are. okc adds both the dallas pick and our pick. that should get it done. and i would do it if i were both teams.
Toocool
10-28-2012, 08:55 PM
Would be a sweet line-up wouldn't it be though.
Aldridge gives them that post presence that all teams need (and that most teams don't have, shows the quality of the big men nowadays).
He's got the size and with Perkins can go about equal with the front court of the Lakers.
CampNightmare8
10-29-2012, 07:13 AM
JH & MKG are my favorite players, so happy for James thought..fair trade IMO, HOU got there go-to guy, and the thunder got a lil deeper.. Plus don't count J lamb as being a steal for OKC.. Homeboy is going to be a bust.
James is going to get the credit he deserves in HOU.
SJackson1
10-30-2012, 06:56 PM
Wow!, great trade for the Rockets. i think they will be a real threat in the West now
Zoolander
11-02-2012, 10:10 PM
Damn he dropped 45 tonight. I really, really didn't think he would be this good this early. Didn't OKC offer him in a trade for the #2 pick? No? I thought he was. Oh well, Rockets GM is smiling big time.
SJackson1
11-02-2012, 10:24 PM
Damn he dropped 45 tonight. I really, really didn't think he would be this good this early. Didn't OKC offer him in a trade for the #2 pick? No? I thought he was. Oh well, Rockets GM is smiling big time.
unreal stuff from Harden !, 82 points in 2 games !
While Harden won't average 41, the way that team is set up is perfect for him to be the #1 option with his ability to create out of trouble and they have lots of shooters for him and Lin to dish to.
Houston knew they had to give up a lot to get a star, and OKC should be fine in the long haul. But this year I think the West is up for grabs.
SJackson1
11-03-2012, 11:48 AM
While Harden won't average 41, the way that team is set up is perfect for him to be the #1 option with his ability to create out of trouble and they have lots of shooters for him and Lin to dish to.
Houston knew they had to give up a lot to get a star, and OKC should be fine in the long haul. But this year I think the West is up for grabs.
Rockets have also got Lin and Osik who are stars in their line up, Osik will be close to rebounding champion this season
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