View Full Version : Trade Deadline Rumors: Feb 21st
Plowright
01-15-2013, 01:23 PM
Chicago Bulls Rumors @chicagobullsbot
Charlotte Bobcats are interested in re-acquiring that draft pick the Bulls acquired in the Tyrus Thomas Trade. (Source: Rumor Press)
Chicago Bulls Rumors @chicagobullsbot
Charlotte Bobcats and Chicago Bulls have had talks and center Bismack Biyombo was brought up in conversations. (Source: Rumor Press)
Just thought I would start a thread up for the trade deadline rumors ending on February 21st!
SWedd523
01-15-2013, 01:53 PM
They're over the cap so they'd have to send some salary back. Really the only thing of value at a low salary is Taj and the poison pill makes any trade with him involved difficult. Plus, with us getting back our first, it'd take some good value to do it. Bismack may be enough to cover it on his own, but they'd have to add at least 3 of their lower salaried players to make it work, and they might like guys like Teague or Butler too much to add to the deal.
That leaves bigger salaried guys. Bismack for Hinrich and our first works, but we really don't have much use for Hinrich. Boozer is always in play but I'd rather give up our first than take him on.
Seems like a tough deal to make unless it was a three-teamer
this is probably just a case of the bobcats calling the bulls and saying "what would it take for us to get our first back?".
can't see them trading biz for that only.
The trade is Gordon and Biyombo for Boozer and Charlotte's first. Possibly with a minor chip or two thrown in on either side.
SWedd523
01-15-2013, 04:51 PM
The trade is Gordon and Biyombo for Boozer and Charlotte's first. Possibly with a minor chip or two thrown in on either side.
according to........
according to........
Logic. Biyombo, at this point, isn't worth a first-round pick that many consider to eventually be an unprotected lottery pick. Chicago just paid Boozer's backup near-starter money and has a big hole at shooting guard that they've been trying(unsuccessfully) to fill ever since Gordon left. Charlotte has a frontcourt that is startlingly incompetent offensively and a logjam on the perimeter. Charlotte gets their draft pick back (which frees this years' pick back up to be traded, remember) for taking on the last year of Boozer's contract, and Chicago gets a big-man project to fill out their lineup because they're trading big for small. What else could it possibly be?
CampNightmare8
01-15-2013, 05:50 PM
I wish we did that Boozer trade. Let's make it happen!
SWedd523
01-15-2013, 07:42 PM
Okay I see the logic in Bismack for our pick, there's some similar value there. But Gordon for Boozer?
http://cdn.faniq.com/images/blog/akiko%20thumbs%20down.gif
Well, that's where the discussion's going to start and end. If Charlotte wants their pick back, then they have to save Chicago the last year of Boozer's contract. Nobody's giving up a potential lottery pick for Bismack now, so that's not close to similar value.
spectre
01-16-2013, 04:02 AM
I agree with Bogg...Reinsdorf is cheap as hell and I can see it coming down to us eating Boozer's salary vs. them amnestying him. It also wouldn't surprise me if there was some kind of Hamilton/Hendo swap in the discussion.
Before I'd move Biz I'd rather:
Hendo/Sessions
for
Hamilton/Hinrich/CHA 1st
but I think the money is going to mean more to Chicago than any talent/youth upgrade.
I'd rather not do it personally.
spectre
01-16-2013, 04:40 AM
Via the Bulls' board on RGM:
Rumor Press (http://www.twitter.com/nbarumorpress)
The Charlotte Bobcats protected first round pick from the Tyrus Thomas deal might have the most mystique of any asset the Bulls have. We're told from a source that the Bobcats are interested in re-acquiring that draft pick from the Bulls. The pick has protection up until 2016, and many fans see it as a way to get a cheap, productive rookie or sweeten a deal for a star.
The Bobcats and Bulls have had talks and center Bismack Biyombo was brought up in conversations. Bulls have brought up the Bobcats pick to other teams in the past, but no luck finding the right deal. Biyombo as a backup would be appealing but its hard to imagine the Bulls dealing the Bobcats pick for him. Biyombo's struggled in the NBA.
The Bobcats have alot of picks right now. Their own, Portlands (top-12 prot.) and Detroit's (also protected). Bobcats could be active at the NBA Trade Deadline. Team discussed sending Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas to Brooklyn for Marshon Brooks, Kris Humphries. As we were told last week, Gordon and Brooks are both available.
I would freaking love that last bit there.
Anything that ships out Tyrus for a shorter contract is good by me. If you get a serviceable big man out of it, even better. Brooks is more of an off-the-bench type of scorer for the second unit than a real starting two-guard, but his rookie contract extends for two more years and gives Charlotte the ability to let Henderson walk if he gets a decent contract offer. I have to imagine that Brooklyn wanted one more piece that Cho wasn't willing to cough up, but if it was something like Mullens or Henderson I'd do the deal.
murphman
01-16-2013, 08:43 AM
Team discussed sending Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas to Brooklyn for Marshon
Brooks, Kris Humphries. As we were told last week, Gordon and Brooks are both
available.
I realize that Kris is no longer a starter and the Nets are playing much better now with him on the bench. I also realize that Marshon is not getting the PT from last season but that trade will not work. Brooklyn would be taking on 7+ million of additional salary and they are already 15 million into the luxury tax. Plus, from an overall talent vs future salary standpoint that trade favors us too much because of Tyrus. Even if we threw in the Portland pick, I doubt the Nets bite.
Ben Gordon and BJ Mullens for Kris Humphries, Marshon Brooks and Tornike Shengelia works OK. We may have to throw in our 2014 2nd round pick to sweeten it a little.
spectre
01-16-2013, 08:52 AM
You're right...didn't even think of plugging that into the trade checker. We're probably destined to eat every little bit of Tyrus' bloated contract.
Gordon for Hump/Brooks works. I'd probably do that. Same salary for a better need/middling prospect in Brooks. That way the original Bad Porn trade keeps on giving.
Tyrus can always be amnesty'd, and his cap number is actually useful for reaching the salary floor, if the team decides to hold onto all its' draft picks and build with more youth. Getting rid of him isn't top priority, but I do wish he had one less year on his contract.
Man Strength
01-16-2013, 02:54 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bkq4hen
just came up with this trade idea
Cha in - Humphies
Cha out - Diop, Tyrus
Brk in - Ilyasova, T. Thomas
Bfk out - Humphries, Brooks
Mil in - Diop, Brooks
Mil out - Ilyasova
would you trade diop and thomas for Humphries? I say yes to that
Mil gets a Mulligan on Ilysova deal, and the Nets get a better fit for their team
mrtarheel
01-16-2013, 07:17 PM
Bklyn wants Ersan Illyasova from the Bucks. The Bucks could use a replacement for Ersan but they already have there lineups because he hasn't been getting much burn because of his production. They could get a replacement on a rookie salary, a throw in and a pick. Ben Gordon I think could be used for a bigger fish like a starting caliber center.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b3hevdq
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bd8l8ou
Wishful thinking but we would have a lineup next year after playing together and resigning Jefferson, Hendo, Mullens and amnesty TT that would compete every game maybe even a top 4 seed in the east
Kemba, Sessions
Hendo, Brooks,
MKG, Taylor,
Humphries, Mullens, Warrick
Jefferson, Biz, Haywwod.
Plowright
01-18-2013, 08:49 PM
@stevekylerNBA: RT @jasonk0823: ---> I think the Bobcats would have a real problem with Rudy Gay's money, that seems to be the recurring theme on him.
i still think this all smoke screen stuff as far as us "determined" to get our pick back and deal biz, etc.
however, after watching the kings last night it is painfully obvious why we want dmc so bad. check out this scenario.
trade 1: goal get our pick back to trade this years to the kings by the deadline
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b8fnzlj
out: gordon and mullens plus portland pick, in:boozer and our pick
trade 2: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=abzvntp
out: hendo, diop, biz, 2013 pick unprotected and det pick
in: salmons, cousins, j johnson (or jimmer), tony wroten
mem out: gay and wroten, in: garcia, evans, hendo
kings out: cousins, garcia, evans, johnson (jimmer), salmons, kings in: gay, diop, biz, det pick, our 2013 #1 unprotected
again, not in favor of it, but it is interesting.
in
Still don't think this is the right environment for Cousins to turn things around. It's all moot at this point, though, as the sale to Seattle ownership may have taken Cousins off the table.
BrotherDave
01-21-2013, 09:20 PM
i still think this all smoke screen stuff as far as us "determined" to get our pick back and deal biz, etc.
however, after watching the kings last night it is painfully obvious why we want dmc so bad. check out this scenario.
No offense but that is a terrible deal for Sacto. Evans and Cousins were really high picks and the best they get for them is Gay and Biz and some mulligans? If that's realistic value than Sacto FO personnel should jump off a bridge with shame.
No offense but that is a terrible deal for Sacto. Evans and Cousins were really high picks and the best they get for them is Gay and Biz and some mulligans? If that's realistic value than Sacto FO personnel should jump off a bridge with shame.
evans trade value is not extremely high right now and if you think about it 2 top 4 picks this year and probably 2 top 10 picks next year will give the new ownership alot of flexibility to either start over with rookies or to trade for more vets and they have a ton of cap space for contracts.
Twan's Kin
01-22-2013, 12:03 AM
Would y'all send Biz to Portland in exchange for J.J. Hickson? Hickson is an unrestricted free agent at the end of this season.
polarcat
01-22-2013, 12:20 AM
Anybody know how much the Hawks want to hold onto Al Horford? Here's my thought..... they are a fringe playoff team and might not even make the playoffs. D12 is probably on their radar as coming back to ATL to play in his prime a little closer to home. Horford would be redundant unless they plan on sliding him to PF. Let's say ATL wants to add Howard and move around some big names (Horford, Smith) to maybe get another marquee player (Gay, Ellis). Horford could be that big man that fits exactly what we would be looking for. I'm not trying to start any rumors, just curious if anyone knows how the Hawks view Horford and what we would have to give up to land him.
Unless you're willing to give up MKG or Kemba it's a non-starter. Gordon and Biyombo isn't getting it done.
CampNightmare8
01-22-2013, 11:13 AM
Rumors that were trading bg a pick & diop for pau.
CampNightmare8
01-22-2013, 11:18 AM
Rumors from where?
Hoopshype.com
Oh, yea, there it is. I just need to see what draft pick they're discussing to know if I'm okay with the deal or hate it. Pau doesn't have much left in the tank, even if you think returning him to the low-post rejuvenates him(I think it will, for what it's worth).
CampNightmare8
01-22-2013, 11:25 AM
Probably not a big pick.
I mean pau is slowing down but if we get him he'll be out best big man ever. He's still good, BG is around the same age as Pau.
The pick is going to be a first-rounder, the question is whether it's Portland, Detroit, or Charlotte's own 2015. Ideally it's the 2015 pick, in which case I won't hate the trade. If it's one of the other picks, I'd rather it be Detroits', as it won't be conveyed for another year or two. If this goes down, I'd want to hold on to Portlands' pick to take a shot at either Plumlee or McAdoo in the middle of the first. I wouldn't hate going into next year with Kemba-Shabazz/McLemore-MKG-McAdoo-Pau. I wouldn't love it, but I could live with it.
cltblkhscoach
01-22-2013, 11:47 AM
I wouldn't mind the deal that much.....it fits with the current two year plan because Gasol would be a huge expiring contract next year. And we aren't giving up much....the only real thing is a pick if it's included. If it's our own pick I'm sure there would be a good bit of protection on it.
I wouldn't mind the deal that much.....it fits with the current two year plan because Gasol would be a huge expiring contract next year. And we aren't giving up much....the only real thing is a pick if it's included. If it's our own pick I'm sure there would be a good bit of protection on it.
Chicago already has Charlotte's pick this year, but it's lottery protected until 2016(ish), meaning it won't actually be conveyed for two or three years, unless Cho turns the team around this summer in a big way. That turns any 2015 pick from Charlotte into a 2017 or 2018 pick, which is why it doesn't have a ton of value.
Plowright
01-22-2013, 12:13 PM
HelloLakers @HelloLakers
#Lakers-Bobcats in talks for a trade package that would send Pau Gasol to CHA for DeSanga Diop Ben Gordon and a pick (via @pantxopaniagua)
Hell, Pau Gasol might be rejuvenated in a new place where every little single thing he does gets scrutinized. He is a winner which fits the organization's frame and I have always been a fan of his. On a guard heavy team we can afford to give up Ben Gordon and getting Pau back in return would fit a need. There contract runs for the same amount of time, obviously we would want to trade for youth if we could but with BG's contract at 13 mill there isn't anyway your not going to be trading for a vet handing a big contract or a bunch of average guys. Either way, I think I like the deal, especially if it is that Portland pick. If they make the play offs this year its a weak draft so would be a good one to give it up on. Then again, if they just missed the play offs and got 12,13 or 14 it would be the best value pick as I don't see portland dropping below that seeding in the next 3 years.
polarcat
01-22-2013, 12:13 PM
Another trade rumor that I don't understand. At least Gasol fits a need area, but a soon-to-be 33 year old broken down player on a $17M salary doesn't seem like the "leader" veteran player that this young team needs. I know we need help on the blocks and on the boards, so at least it's not a rumor for another wing scorer. Personally, I'd much rather toss something at Minnesota to land a Williams/Pekovic package, keep our first rounders and keep the checkbook open.
CampNightmare8
01-22-2013, 12:17 PM
Lol you think he'll get scrutinized as much as he did on the Lakers...?
Another trade rumor that I don't understand. At least Gasol fits a need area, but a soon-to-be 33 year old broken down player on a $17M salary doesn't seem like the "leader" veteran player that this young team needs. I know we need help on the blocks and on the boards, so at least it's not a rumor for another wing scorer. Personally, I'd much rather toss something at Minnesota to land a Williams/Pekovic package, keep our first rounders and keep the checkbook open.
Minny's not trading Pekovic and Williams for anything Charlotte has to offer. Pek is getting maxed by Minny this summer, it's just the way it is.
As an interesting aside, if this happened, would anyone here look to Toronto to get Bargnani back as a perimeter four? They seem intent on trading him, and if you could do it for Diop, Mullens, and Henderson plus maybe a pick it might be worth a look.
i would nominate cho for gm of the year if pau goes for diop, gordon and portlands pick. hell, i would throw in mullens too. it basically costs us 7 mil and a draft pick to have pau next year. at that point we could flip him to any number of playoff teams for another year of salary and another pick or two. and if he returns to form (which he absolutely would in my opinion) he could net quite a bit.
JefDav84
01-22-2013, 12:42 PM
Looks like that tweet about Gasol was stolen from Bonnell. Rick posted this last night around 11:30 and was just speculating. Looks like someone found it and re-worded it to look like a rumor.
Rick Bonnell
@rick_bonnell
In fact, as bad as 2013 draft is, I'd offer Diop, Gordon and Bobcats' pick with top-5 protection for Gasol. Just conjecture...
11:38 p.m. Mon, Jan 21
Looks like that tweet about Gasol was stolen from Bonnell. Rick posted this last night around 11:30 and was just speculating. Looks like someone found it and re-worded it to look like a rumor.
Rick Bonnell
@rick_bonnell
In fact, as bad as 2013 draft is, I'd offer Diop, Gordon and Bobcats' pick with top-5 protection for Gasol. Just conjecture...
11:38 p.m. Mon, Jan 21
gotta love the "sources" age of reporting
Plowright
01-22-2013, 01:45 PM
Another trade rumor that I don't understand. At least Gasol fits a need area, but a soon-to-be 33 year old broken down player on a $17M salary doesn't seem like the "leader" veteran player that this young team needs. I know we need help on the blocks and on the boards, so at least it's not a rumor for another wing scorer. Personally, I'd much rather toss something at Minnesota to land a Williams/Pekovic package, keep our first rounders and keep the checkbook open.
Wrote that from my phone, bivouacs meant won't get scrutinised.
QC Thundercats
01-22-2013, 02:31 PM
I actually can see good logic in the Pau trade. Getting him would not be for us or for building our foundation, at least not directly. At this point, we're 10-31, and adding him this year won't improve us too much out of the top pick runnings. Maybe we go 15-26 the rest of the way - 25 wins will still keep us right at the top of the lottery.
But this would be great for the offseason before the draft. He can probably get back to his 20-10 averages with us. Once all the contenders see that he's still got it, there will probably be a bidding war for his services. I'm sure the Knicks, bulls, thunder, spurs, nets, insert contender, would love to add a versatile scoring/rebounding/passing big. This opens up a ton more options for Cho to explore, since Gasol by himself would be much more valuable than Ben Gordon or a mid teens pick.
It's like that Barter Wars tv show, or whatever it's called. You just keep trading up your assets for slightly higher and higher value, and at the end you have enough value to trade for what you really want, without as much investment as you would have at first.
SWedd523
01-22-2013, 02:49 PM
If Pau can't find the sack to get on the floor for the best franchise in the sport, I can't wait to see the excuses for why he can't take the floor for us.
If all these teams will trade for him next year or this offseason, they'll trade for him now. The man is 30+, has been hurt all year, and we want to cash in three assets for a guy who may be here no more than a full season? Barf.
I'd rather have traded for Rudy Gay
QC Thundercats
01-22-2013, 03:07 PM
I haven't really paid much attention to the train wreck Lakers, but is he really bitching out, or is he just being scapegoated?
I know teams could trade for Gasol now, but maybe they don't like dealing with the Lakers and helping them out in any way, or maybe they are enjoying the hell out of seeing them implode and keeping a contender out of the race this year. Or maybe they don't trust Gasol because of said uterine issues. If the last one's the case though, then thats where I could see the logic in rehabilitating his image in the eyes of the league, and maybe getting a bidding war started and obtaining a higher asset than what we sent out.
But it probably is too many variables to count on to be a reliable trade, so I'm good standing pat.
Unless we could then trade him for Rudy Gay...:ohhh:
CampNightmare8
01-22-2013, 06:25 PM
Pau is still good it's just the lakers offense is terrible. What could Pau have lost in one year? He's still got his post game, mid range, and can hit a three from time to time.
ziggy
01-22-2013, 06:42 PM
In July of this year, Pau will be 33 years old.
Too old.
Too much mileage.
Too much salary.
Even if he we got him with the intention of flipping him after a year, you would have the risk of him coming here and playing like garbage and lowering his trade value.
I'll pass.
CampNightmare8
01-22-2013, 07:57 PM
In July of this year, Pau will be 33 years old.
Too old.
Too much mileage.
Too much salary.
Even if he we got him with the intention of flipping him after a year, you would have the risk of him coming here and playing like garbage and lowering his trade value.
I'll pass.
What did you want us to do with BG then? Pau may be 34 but he is still a good player.
mrtarheel
01-23-2013, 11:54 AM
Read Plowright and polarcat's post earlier about the rumored Gasol trade and polarcat stated that he would rather have Pek and Williams from Minny. I think that is Cho's thinking, Minny said that they want a big and if the Lakers want BG and Diop so be it. We would have to take on about 5 mil more along with Pek and Williams but who cares. We have a young C and pf that we can use instead of and old Gasol.
Read Plowright and polarcat's post earlier about the rumored Gasol trade and polarcat stated that he would rather have Pek and Williams from Minny. I think that is Cho's thinking, Minny said that they want a big and if the Lakers want BG and Diop so be it. We would have to take on about 5 mil more along with Pek and Williams but who cares. We have a young C and pf that we can use instead of and old Gasol.
Minnesota's not making that trade. Minny wanting Gasol is a relic from when they had Darko at center, they have zero reason to move real assets for Pau now that Pekovic has established himself.
mrtarheel
01-23-2013, 04:51 PM
Minnesota's not making that trade. Minny wanting Gasol is a relic from when they had Darko at center, they have zero reason to move real assets for Pau now that Pekovic has established himself.
Pek is going to be offered alot of money in the offseason and they don't have money to match any offer as he has outplayed his 4mil contract. Instead of loosing him for nothing why not get Gasol which they want since he plays with Rubio on the Spanish team. They want to get rid of Williams anyway and maybe a pick might sway them.
Ghost Kat
01-23-2013, 06:06 PM
If Pau can't find the sack to get on the floor for the best franchise in the sport, I can't wait to see the excuses for why he can't take the floor for us.
I think he would go back to Spain before he played for this team. He would be so butt hurt like Lamar Odem was when the Lakers traded him to Dallas. He wont show up, It hurt me to say it but Mullens is a better choice then him.....in my opition
Pek is going to be offered alot of money in the offseason and they don't have money to match any offer as he has outplayed his 4mil contract. Instead of loosing him for nothing why not get Gasol which they want since he plays with Rubio on the Spanish team. They want to get rid of Williams anyway and maybe a pick might sway them.
A) If I understand the CBA correctly, Pekovic is a restricted free agent because he's been in the league only three years, so Minny can match literally any offer Pekovic gets.
B) Pekovic is outperforming Gasol this season and is five years younger. It's safe to say that Pekovic should be able to sustain his current level of play over the next several seasons, which you can't say about Gasol.
C) Gasol makes $15 million more than Pekovic this year and will be making around $5-6 million more than Pekovic next season. If they can't afford to re-sign their own guy, they definitely can't afford a guy making $20 million more between this year and next.
D) Minny doesn't "want to get rid of Williams". They know that he's their last decent trade chip (well, until Love forces his way to OKC or Houston) so they're holding out for a good starting swingman (no, not Henderson) and/or a draft pick of a quality that depends on what it's being packaged with. If they just wanted to get Williams off the payroll, he'd be gone by now.
A) If I understand the CBA correctly, Pekovic is a restricted free agent because he's been in the league only three years, so Minny can match literally any offer Pekovic gets.
B) Pekovic is outperforming Gasol this season and is five years younger. It's safe to say that Pekovic should be able to sustain his current level of play over the next several seasons, which you can't say about Gasol.
what is the maximum you would offer for pek and do you think minny matches?
SWedd523
01-24-2013, 09:00 AM
Pek is my #1 target, and he's also probably high up on many lists across the league so bids will be abound.
Bigs command big money so it may seem inflated, but I'd offer a deal in the 12-14 per year range. Hard to tell if they'd match though.
what is the maximum you would offer for pek and do you think minny matches?
Look at last summer with Hibbert and Lopez. Pek's going to get offered the maximum, and Minnesota has to match if they intend on keeping Love around. I'd be hesitant to tie up money in signing Pekovic to a restricted free agent sheet, unless there were no other free agents the team was targeting that you could miss out on by tying up your money for a few days.
Look at last summer with Hibbert and Lopez. Pek's going to get offered the maximum, and Minnesota has to match if they intend on keeping Love around. I'd be hesitant to tie up money in signing Pekovic to a restricted free agent sheet, unless there were no other free agents the team was targeting that you could miss out on by tying up your money for a few days.
i wouldn't care so much as to that. if we aren't signing a starter to a big deal, i could care less about middling free agents who are going to only serve to tie up space and make us marginally better.
i would be fine offering him bigger money if for no other reason than to force minny to match. but looking forward, he would allow us to play a lineup of wiggins or mclemore and mkg, with a solid offensive pf. and he is a "back alley guy" to steal the phrase from jalen rose.
Don't get me wrong, he'd be a great addition to the squad, if they think they can get him it's worth a shot. However, if there are other guys the team's also looking at who are unrestricted, it may be better to lock them up immediately than run the very real risk of missing out on everyone because option numbers 2 and 3 signed elsewhere while you were waiting to see if Minny matches. This is assuming, obviously, that options 2 and 3 are smart signings who can help the team in the first place.
mrtarheel
01-24-2013, 11:26 AM
A) If I understand the CBA correctly, Pekovic is a restricted free agent because he's been in the league only three years, so Minny can match literally any offer Pekovic gets.
B) Pekovic is outperforming Gasol this season and is five years younger. It's safe to say that Pekovic should be able to sustain his current level of play over the next several seasons, which you can't say about Gasol.
C) Gasol makes $15 million more than Pekovic this year and will be making around $5-6 million more than Pekovic next season. If they can't afford to re-sign their own guy, they definitely can't afford a guy making $20 million more between this year and next.
D) Minny doesn't "want to get rid of Williams". They know that he's their last decent trade chip (well, until Love forces his way to OKC or Houston) so they're holding out for a good starting swingman (no, not Henderson) and/or a draft pick of a quality that depends on what it's being packaged with. If they just wanted to get Williams off the payroll, he'd be gone by now.
A) Yes he is restricted but they don't have money to match an offer worth what he is expecting to command
B) Yes he will and Gasol is on the decline but they want playoffs because Love wants a run in the playoffs or he is gone
C) True but why not get something for him instead of letting him walk for nothing because he will not be in Minny next yr.
D) They are said to be wanting a big instead, so maybe even they could get a big and wing out of this deal.
A) Yes he is restricted but they don't have money to match an offer worth what he is expecting to command
...
C) True but why not get something for him instead of letting him walk for nothing because he will not be in Minny next yr.
Minnesota's committed to around 50 million in salary next season before you start talking about things like rookie contracts, extensions, and new players. Pekovic's new contract is going to start between $13 and $14 million, putting them right around the amount of money they're laying out this year. After factoring in rookie contracts and few journeymen signings that every team makes, they'll still be paying under $70 million in salary - and they can get back down to around $65 million if they decline the options on Stiemsma and Cunningham in favor of minimum guys.
So, once again, yes - they do have the money for Pekovic, and won't be forced to let him walk.
B) Yes he will and Gasol is on the decline but they want playoffs because Love wants a run in the playoffs or he is gone
All well and good, but Gasol has been worse than Pekovic this season and comes with more injury risk for a team that's already had their season derailed by injury. Pekovic is giving them an efficient 16 and 9 - it's unlikely Pau does any better even in the short term.
D) They are said to be wanting a big instead, so maybe even they could get a big and wing out of this deal.
Maybe they can get all sorts of things. However, they're only trading him if it makes the team a good deal better. The motivation won't be that they want to get rid of him anyway, so they might as well toss him in the trade.
spectre
02-19-2013, 04:13 PM
It looks like the Bucks have a plan to net Smith & Redick while dumping Monte. Hope so...as that pushes BKN to trade us Hump for the Cancer.
Mustachio
02-19-2013, 04:38 PM
Wait I'm confused. Why would anyone pay max money to Pekovic? Explain this to me. I haven't seen much of him. looking at his numbers.... ?
isguros
02-19-2013, 05:06 PM
I heard the Hawks don't want Humphries back in a package for Smith. Do you see this becoming a three team trade that'll land us Humphries?
spectre
02-19-2013, 06:35 PM
I heard the Hawks don't want Humphries back in a package for Smith. Do you see this becoming a three team trade that'll land us Humphries?
No, because I seriously doubt we add any value to Gordon from our end...and ATL doesn't want Gordon.
spectre
02-19-2013, 06:48 PM
FWIW
MASS. Paper Speculating Boston Could Make Play for Sessions (http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2013/02/boston_celtics_trade_rumors_20_19.html)
adam187
02-19-2013, 09:42 PM
Wait I'm confused. Why would anyone pay max money to Pekovic? Explain this to me. I haven't seen much of him. looking at his numbers.... ?
skilled big. i feel like, overall, he's a better player than brook lopez, who's getting max money. pek is a huge dude, who's gonna bang down low, gobble up rebounds, and he has a good touch around the rim. generally very efficient as well. every team could use a guy like that.
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