2 good draft additions if we keep our core and get the Portland pick

[Veteran_Picksetter]

It's nice to fantasize. But please keep it realistic.

One scenario:

Noel and Olynyk. We desperately need quality bigs and these two guys bring a lot of different skills to your lineup. Noel brings you the length/rebounding/shotblocking, and Olynyk gives you the bulk and superior ball skills. Both have decent mobility and can be somewhat interchangeable on defense.

Who do you covet??

[Veteran_Picksetter]

Two more thoughts:

Shabazz/Plumlee An inside/out infusion of scoring and rebounding

Bennett/Plumlee Bolstering the frontline with a guy who can score from anywhere and 2 strong, athletic guys with rebounding potential. Only issue: Are they both "4's" who would cut into each other's playing time? Or can Bennett slide over to the wing position?

[GoBobs]

I really think we need help in the front court so I am taking two big guys. Noel with our pick, hopefully he can become what we hoped Tyrus Thomas could be.

With the other pick I would target a center with legit size, either Isaiah Austin or Gobert. Might look to trade up into the 10 range with that second pick for a shot at one of these guys. Maybe combine the detroit and portland picks to move up. There is actually a good chance of having both this year, but even if we don't we could combine them in a trade.

If all the centers I like are off the board I want a combo guard with great passing and ball handling ability, either Marcus Smart or Carter-Williams.

Problem with taking a guard with the top pick is we don't have any big guy prospects in the pipeline. Only way I like that is if we use our pick on a guard then trade the det and port picks for a vet big like Al Horford.

[Veteran_Picksetter]

Problem with taking a guard with the top pick is we don't have any big guy prospects in the pipeline. Only way I like that is if we use our pick on a guard then trade the det and port picks for a vet big like Al Horford.

But if Shabazz or Mclemore emerge as the two sure-fire studs with superstar potential, we gotta take them, right?? Regardless of whether we add a big man....

I'm kind of hoping that Bennett emerges as the next Barkley/LJ. That would really fit our needs.

Or if Noel develops offensively, that could be nice.

[Aircat]

About Gobert and Olynyk: I'd say the Cats should stay away from a 7 ' French center as well as from a long haired player from Gonzaga...
historic reasoning as the body of proof....

I say Cho should go with the Baby Bulls strategy (Curry and Chandler in 1 draft) and pick two out of Zeller / Noel (with the own pick) and Plumlee / McAdoo / Cauley-Stein / Austin (with the POR pick).
Reasoning : You cant teach size! (Picks projected by current big boards)

[Pepperz]

I would go with 2 bigs. Noel/Plumblee. We need interior D and rebounding. Noel is going to be a really great talent in the NBA. His hands are what I love about him the most. Half his highlights are of him stealing the ball. That would work really well with our team since transition basketball is very vital to our style.

[GoBobs]

But if Shabazz or Mclemore emerge as the two sure-fire studs with superstar potential, we gotta take them, right?? Regardless of whether we add a big man....

I'm kind of hoping that Bennett emerges as the next Barkley/LJ. That would really fit our needs.

Or if Noel develops offensively, that could be nice.

No, I agree if it's like a D-Rose vs Beasly situation you take D-Rose every time even if your team needs a PF bad. We pretty much have to trust the scouts to do their job in this.

Generally though, big guys are usually less ready to contribute right away, take more time to develop but have a longer shelf life. Drafting the big guys first and the guards second is usually a better plan.

The other thing we need to decide is if we are trying to be a playoff team next year or if we are trying to get Wiggins. Taking two big guys that are not ready to contribute a whole lot could put us in a good position to get another top pick.

[CampNightmare8]

About Gobert and Olynyk: I'd say the Cats should stay away from a 7 ' French center as well as from a long haired player from Gonzaga...
historic reasoning as the body of proof....

I say Cho should go with the Baby Bulls strategy (Curry and Chandler in 1 draft) and pick two out of Zeller / Noel (with the own pick) and Plumlee / McAdoo / Cauley-Stein / Austin (with the POR pick).
Reasoning : You cant teach size! (Picks projected by current big boards)

Agreed. I would like us to go with either

Zeller/Cauley-Stein
or
Noel/Leslie

[Veteran_Picksetter]

About Gobert and Olynyk: I'd say the Cats should stay away from a 7 ' French center as well as from a long haired player from Gonzaga...
historic reasoning as the body of proof....

I say Cho should go with the Baby Bulls strategy (Curry and Chandler in 1 draft) and pick two out of Zeller / Noel (with the own pick) and Plumlee / McAdoo / Cauley-Stein / Austin (with the POR pick).
Reasoning : You cant teach size! (Picks projected by current big boards)

Perhaps you are half-kidding, but I don't think Morrison should have anything to do with drafting Olynyk, UNLESS Olynyk also happens to have diabetes, in which case, yeah, I'm spooked away from him as well.....

I personally think size is often a little overrated on draft day.

[jmanvelocity]

As i said in my other thread

Mclemore and Olynyk
Bazzy and Olynyk

[CampNightmare8]

I'm going to look in on this olynyk guy you guys are all talking about.

[Veteran_Picksetter]

I'm going to look in on this olynyk guy you guys are all talking about.

I can't find good highlights from THIS season, in which he has completely turned things on, but I will say this:

26 points against BYU with something like 9 shot attempts.

Averages 18+ points on 10.5 shot attempts a game.

The type of efficient production we could definitely use in a big man.....

If someone would ever put his BYU highlight on youtube, that would be cool....

[kitch0202]

I'm currently looking at McLemore & Plumlee as our two picks. Though I think Noel is a hell of a prospect ... a more athletic & higher BBIQ'd Biz.

I either want us to draft McLemore or trade for Lamb, so we can get Kemba's longterm Guard partner on our roster for next season. If we can get a trade for Lamb sorted we can then focus on Noel or possibly Bennett (if he starts to show equal effort on Defence as he does on Offence) in the draft.

Plumlee has the look of a really good bench player who does everything well at the 4. I think he's someone who will be an extremely productive player, though without any star potential.

However Veteran_Picksetter has got me intrigued with this Olynyk kid. Never seen him play, but talk about efficient scoring! I'd love to see better rebounding or shot blocking on his stat sheet though.

PS: It's obviously best player with both picks, but in the spirit of the OP the above is what I'm thinking.

[iowabobcat]

I would like to see McLemore then either Isaiah Austin or Kelly Olynyk

[CampNightmare8]

Man I'm loving this olynyk kid. Who would you guys compare him to? I'm about to watch a bunch of this kids games from now on.

[gamecocksmitty4]

Extremely unathletic version of Mullens. Not as good of a rebounder either.

[SWedd523]

Extremely unathletic version of Mullens. Not as good of a rebounder either.

Again, not really. Maybe in his younger days but now he's a post player who has range while Mully is a floor spacer who posts (rarely)

He plays a similar style to guys like Aldridge and Bosh with the way they score in a variety of manners with average rebounding numbers, obviously a homeless man's version.

[gamecocksmitty4]

Do we really need another guy who can't rebound, play defense, and won't be able to body any one up at the NBA level?

[Veteran_Picksetter]

Do we really need another guy who can't rebound, play defense, and won't be able to body any one up at the NBA level?

No, but I think he at least has the bulk to body up on people. His improvement is so dramatic since the last year he played, I wonder if he'll turn around his rebounding issues soon enough. One thing at a time.

Unfortunately none of these big men are a complete package. We desperately need an efficient-scoring big. MKG and Biyombo should have the defense/rebounding on lockdown for years to come with expected improvement...

[BrotherDave]

I'm going outside the box a bit on this one.

1) Noel as BPA; and Victor Oladipo with the Portland pick (or maybe Tim Hardaway, Jr if he dominates in workouts or something)

2) Shabazz as BPA; and really outside the box, Patric Young or Tony Mitchell with the Portland pick.

[CampNightmare8]

Anyone considering CJ Leslie? I love this kids game I think he can be something in the league.

[Veteran_Picksetter]

I'm going outside the box a bit on this one.

1) Noel as BPA; and Victor Oladipo with the Portland pick (or maybe Tim Hardaway, Jr if he dominates in workouts or something)

2) Shabazz as BPA; and really outside the box, Patric Young or Tony Mitchell with the Portland pick.

I've been wondering about P.Young. Dude was coming on as a possible pick last year but he kind of disappeared. He was HIGHLY touted coming out of h.s. as I understand it.

Definitely a physical stud, and with a solid wingspan if I'm not mistaken. How is his rebounding? (something we obviously need).....

[Veteran_Picksetter]

Anyone considering CJ Leslie? I love this kids game I think he can be something in the league.

Every time I see him he has nice bounce scoring around the basket. But how is his outside game? Something he definitely needs at his size.....

[BrotherDave]

Anyone considering CJ Leslie? I love this kids game I think he can be something in the league.
I'm a State fan but I'm not real high on him. He's the epitome of a 'tweener. Very similar game compared to Tyrus and Warrick actually. He should be a little better than both if his post game continues to develop beyond out-athleting his opponent. In high school all this guy did was catch lobs from John Wall so he has come a long way but for a 3rd year guy he should be better IMO. He has decent range out to the college 3 but he falls in love with his jumpshot too much.

I've been wondering about P.Young. Dude was coming on as a possible pick last year but he kind of disappeared. He was HIGHLY touted coming out of h.s. as I understand it.

Definitely a physical stud, and with a solid wingspan if I'm not mistaken. How is his rebounding? (something we obviously need).....
Young is definitely on the short list of guys with bodies of chiseled steel. His rebounding is very solid, he's an immovable object when he wants to be. The problem with him this year, why nobody is really talking about him, is that he's been kind of grumpy Gus and let his cardio slide which caused Donovan to bench him a while back. I have him bookmarked as early candidate for a serious draft day steal. He'd give us a more athletic, better sized Jeff Adrien basically.

[CampNightmare8]

I'm a State fan but I'm not real high on him. He's the epitome of a 'tweener. Very similar game compared to Tyrus and Warrick actually. He should be a little better than both if his post game continues to develop beyond out-athleting his opponent. In high school all this guy did was catch lobs from John Wall so he has come a long way but for a 3rd year guy he should be better IMO. He has decent range out to the college 3 but he falls in love with his jumpshot too much.

Young is definitely on the short list of guys with bodies of chiseled steel. His rebounding is very solid, he's an immovable object when he wants to be. The problem with him this year, why nobody is really talking about him, is that he's been kind of grumpy Gus and let his cardio slide which caused Donovan to bench him a while back. I have him bookmarked as early candidate for a serious draft day steal. He'd give us a more athletic, better sized Jeff Adrien basically.

Oh man you brought back them old Word of god days! Used to go to all their games haha.