PDA

View Full Version : Who is the pick?



hoss89
04-05-2006, 01:12 PM
It looks like we will be in top three picks. How do you guys rate the guys coming out? If Aldridge is there dont we have to get him? Or is it thomas or morrison? What position would Thomas play?

ziggy
04-05-2006, 01:56 PM
I\'ve been on the Adam Morrison bandwagon for the last few months, but before I can be completely sold on him, I want to see how he does in the predraft workouts. Does he have the quickness to play solid NBA defense. One thing that we do know is that he can put the ball in the basket, and the Bobcats desperately need more of that.

I\'m a big Rodney Carney fan, and if we wind up with the 4th pick or lower then he should get serious consideration. Supposedly he has Vinsanity-type athleticism.

Lamarcus Aldridge, I\'m not too sure about. If he can bulk up to play center at the NBA level, then I\'d be more willing to pick him. I\'ve only seen him play a few times and each of those he had bad games, so thats all I have to judge him on.

Once again, Welcome to the board, make yourself at home!!!

buckethead
04-05-2006, 05:53 PM
If Joakim Noah can play center then I pick him ahead of Aldridge, If not then I\'d take Adam Morrison.

ashy_larry
04-06-2006, 09:05 PM
If you draft Aldridge you could play him at center and Okafor at the power forward. With Aldridge\'s length, and Okafor\'s shot blocking, they would be able to shut down the lane.

ziggy
04-07-2006, 12:59 AM
Clark056 wrote:

If you draft Aldridge you could play him at center and Okafor at the power forward. With Aldridge\'s length, and Okafor\'s shot blocking, they would be able to shut down the lane. Aldridge is going to have to hit the weight room and put on some muscle if he is going to play center and not get destroyed in the NBA.

heelfan
04-07-2006, 02:08 PM
hoss89 wrote:

It looks like we will be in top three picks. How do you guys rate the guys coming out? If Aldridge is there dont we have to get him? Or is it thomas or morrison? What position would Thomas play?
If hes on the board, you have to take Adam Morrison pure and simple. We need the scoring, hes going to be a big time scorer. Its a perfect fit.

ziggy
04-13-2006, 09:54 PM
HeelFan wrote:

hoss89 wrote:

It looks like we will be in top three picks. How do you guys rate the guys coming out? If Aldridge is there dont we have to get him? Or is it thomas or morrison? What position would Thomas play?
If hes on the board, you have to take Adam Morrison pure and simple. We need the scoring, hes going to be a big time scorer. Its a perfect fit.
Heelfan, As the draft gets closer, it looks like there is a growing concern about Adam Morrison, and the possibility that he may be overhyped.

The Article

tray
04-13-2006, 11:55 PM
Honesly, this year\'s draft is a waste of time. None of these players would even be top 10 if last year\'s class was coming out this year.

I wouldn\'t be surprised to see a lot of trading of picks going on this year, because this draft is so weak that it\'s not even worth wasting a lot of money on these guys coming out.

Hopefully the Bobcats will realize that and trade their pick and a player or two to another team for a good young player.

tray
04-13-2006, 11:56 PM
ziggy wrote:

HeelFan wrote:

hoss89 wrote:

It looks like we will be in top three picks. How do you guys rate the guys coming out? If Aldridge is there dont we have to get him? Or is it thomas or morrison? What position would Thomas play?
If hes on the board, you have to take Adam Morrison pure and simple. We need the scoring, hes going to be a big time scorer. Its a perfect fit.
Heelfan, As the draft gets closer, it looks like there is a growing concern about Adam Morrison, and the possibility that he may be overhyped.

The Article

Every player in this year\'s draft looks overhyped to me. None of them look worth the investment.

ziggy
04-14-2006, 12:21 AM
tray wrote:

Honesly, this year\'s draft is a waste of time. None of these players would even be top 10 if last year\'s class was coming out this year.

I wouldn\'t be surprised to see a lot of trading of picks going on this year, because this draft is so weak that it\'s not even worth wasting a lot of money on these guys coming out.

Hopefully the Bobcats will realize that and trade their pick and a player or two to another team for a good young player.
On the surface it doesn\'t look too impressive but its drafts like this where the quality GMs seperate theirselves from the rest of the pack, They have to find the diamonds in the rough out of these group of players. For example Brandon Roy, he doesn\'t get a lot of hype, but he has a lot of qualities that could make him a star at the pro level.
We\'ll see what kind of GM skills Bickerstaff has with the way that he handles this draft.

Dead_Real
04-14-2006, 02:00 AM
We go after Rudy Gay or Morrison and we will have to scorers that could help us.

tray
04-14-2006, 04:07 AM
Dead_real wrote:

We go after Rudy Gay or Morrison and we will have to scorers that could help us.

If the Bobcats have to settle for the draft because they can\'t trade the pick for someone already in the NBA, then I\'d rather they take Rudy Gay who has the most potential on the wing, although I still don\'t think his upside is as good as Gerald Green\'s.

Morrison is that stiff, upright type player whose not too flashy, and I\'m not saying this just because he\'s a white guy, but his game could end up being like Larry Bird\'s was, or he could end up like Tom Gugliotta.

The Bobcats need wing players. They don\'t need any more inside players. They need a good shooting guard because Matt Carroll and Jumaine Jones are role players. They need a 2 guard who can blossom into a star. That\'s not Morrison, he\'s not a 2. Rudy Gay would be incompatible with Gerald Wallace, in my opinion.

Gerald Green could be a Tracy McGrady type 2.

Dead_Real
04-14-2006, 04:14 AM
Gerald Green is not better than Rudy Gay let me tell you that. I gurantee we will get a SG threw FA this offseason.

ashy_larry
04-14-2006, 08:36 AM
ziggy wrote:

tray wrote:

Honesly, this year\'s draft is a waste of time. None of these players would even be top 10 if last year\'s class was coming out this year.

I wouldn\'t be surprised to see a lot of trading of picks going on this year, because this draft is so weak that it\'s not even worth wasting a lot of money on these guys coming out.

Hopefully the Bobcats will realize that and trade their pick and a player or two to another team for a good young player.
On the surface it doesn\'t look too impressive but its drafts like this where the quality GMs seperate theirselves from the rest of the pack, They have to find the diamonds in the rough out of these group of players. For example Brandon Roy, he doesn\'t get a lot of hype, but he has a lot of qualities that could make him a star at the pro level.
We\'ll see what kind of GM skills Bickerstaff has with the way that he handles this draft. You may be on to something with Brandon Roy, If he were an east coast player and was on a team that was on TV every weekend, they\'d probably be hyping him up as the next Dwyane Wade by now. With that being said though, I still beilieve that we could trade down and get him in th 5 to 10 range.

tray
04-14-2006, 10:50 AM
Dead_real wrote:

Gerald Green is not better than Rudy Gay let me tell you that. I gurantee we will get a SG threw FA this offseason.

I thought I made it clear that I was talking about \"potential.\"

Heck, look at players like Jason Capel who peaked coming out of High School, so they were ranked in the top 10 in High School and fell off of the map in college because they peaked too early and the other players surpassed them.

Gay hasn\'t peaked yet, but Gerald Green is no where close to peaking, and his upside is still better than Rudy Gay\'s because of the skills that Green possesses.

He is every bit as athletic as Rudy Gay, with more of a stroke. Plus he seems to have the intangibles that Gay does not. Gay is one of those thinkers, that\'s why he disappeared during the NCAA tournament. I think Green has that killer mentality that T-Mac has, and that\'s what I want along with his skills and potential.

tray
04-14-2006, 10:55 AM
Clark056 wrote:

ziggy wrote:

tray wrote:

Honesly, this year\'s draft is a waste of time. None of these players would even be top 10 if last year\'s class was coming out this year.

I wouldn\'t be surprised to see a lot of trading of picks going on this year, because this draft is so weak that it\'s not even worth wasting a lot of money on these guys coming out.

Hopefully the Bobcats will realize that and trade their pick and a player or two to another team for a good young player.
On the surface it doesn\'t look too impressive but its drafts like this where the quality GMs seperate theirselves from the rest of the pack, They have to find the diamonds in the rough out of these group of players. For example Brandon Roy, he doesn\'t get a lot of hype, but he has a lot of qualities that could make him a star at the pro level.
We\'ll see what kind of GM skills Bickerstaff has with the way that he handles this draft. You may be on to something with Brandon Roy, If he were an east coast player and was on a team that was on TV every weekend, they\'d probably be hyping him up as the next Dwyane Wade by now. With that being said though, I still beilieve that we could trade down and get him in th 5 to 10 range.

It seems to me that a lot of people just want to take what\'s in the Draft just because it is the draft and they get caught all up in the pageantry and the hoopla of Draft Day.

From a business perspective, the players in this year\'s draft are not worth a top-five pick. The Bobcats would be better served getting a 2 guard from somewhere else. They don\'t need a 6\'8 player like Rudy Gay or Brian Morrison whose games are taylored for the 3, and then Morrison isn\'t all that athletic either.

If they are going to get a 6\'8 guy, he should be a 2 guard, like Gerald Green. Of course, it\'s harder to get someone like that from another team, but it can be done. The Bobcats have more than enough players they can dump and a high enough draft pick to make it interesting.:woohoo:

ziggy
04-14-2006, 11:54 AM
It\'ll take some luck to put together a deal to get Green. The Bobcats would have to wind up with a #1 or #2 pick and the Celtics would have to wind up low in the lottery. The Bobcats blew their shot at him last season, they could have picked him up at #13 instead of Sean May. Felton / Green / Wallace / Okafor at the 1/2/3/4 spot would have been a real nice foundation.

Dead_Real
04-14-2006, 12:29 PM
I see us getting rid of Ely and BK over the offseason. We could get Peja he goes on the market this offseason and he is a leathal shooter something we don\'t have on our roster.

tray
04-14-2006, 02:42 PM
Dead_real wrote:

I see us getting rid of Ely and BK over the offseason. We could get Peja he goes on the market this offseason and he is a leathal shooter something we don\'t have on our roster.

If they could get Peja in free agency, that still doesn\'t preven them from not wasting a high draft pick on this year\'s class. They could still get Green.

tray
04-14-2006, 02:42 PM
ziggy wrote:

It\'ll take some luck to put together a deal to get Green. The Bobcats would have to wind up with a #1 or #2 pick and the Celtics would have to wind up low in the lottery. The Bobcats blew their shot at him last season, they could have picked him up at #13 instead of Sean May. Felton / Green / Wallace / Okafor at the 1/2/3/4 spot would have been a real nice foundation.

I agree. May is a great talent, but he isn\'t durable enough. That\'s just a fact.

Slam
04-15-2006, 12:53 AM
Green >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gay.

Who ever said that he \"gurantee\'s\" we will get a SG through FA this season obviously hasn\'t taken the time to look at what SG FA\'s are available this summer.

The Celtics are never going to give up Green.

Like Ziggy said, we blew it last summer when we could have taken him at #13.

Why take Peja and the fat contract that will come with him when he can\'t play the 2 and neither can Crash?

I doubt we will be able trade down our pick this year to pick up 2 first round picks. Too manhy other teams will be looking to do the same.

The best that we can hope for is something like:

Our pick and Knight

for

The Hawks pick and Childress

Then draft either Carney or Roy

or

Our pick and Ely

for

The Hornets highest pick and JR Smith

Then draft who ever is left out of Carney, Roy or Brewer.

Dead_Real
04-15-2006, 11:27 AM
I see your point if Sean May is hurt again next year he was a wasted pick. We need to draft a SG in the draft on mock drafts on the internet they got us taking Jakim Noah or Adam Morrison I want Morrison because we need a closer something we do not have. Carney can jump out the building but how will that help if he is throwing up bricks on the regular, his jump shot has to improve he settles for his jumper way to much. But Brandon Roy would be our best pick if we are looking for a natural SG who can do it all at the 2 guard position imagine Roy and Felton in the front court that would be deadly. I just wouldnt give up on a deadley scorer like Ammo.

tray
04-15-2006, 11:49 AM
Big Slam wrote:

Green >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gay.

Who ever said that he \"gurantee\'s\" we will get a SG through FA this season obviously hasn\'t taken the time to look at what SG FA\'s are available this summer.

The Celtics are never going to give up Green.

Like Ziggy said, we blew it last summer when we could have taken him at #13.

Why take Peja and the fat contract that will come with him when he can\'t play the 2 and neither can Crash?

I doubt we will be able trade down our pick this year to pick up 2 first round picks. Too manhy other teams will be looking to do the same.

The best that we can hope for is something like:

Our pick and Knight

for

The Hawks pick and Childress

Then draft either Carney or Roy

or

Our pick and Ely

for

The Hornets highest pick and JR Smith


Then draft who ever is left out of Carney, Roy or Brewer.

If that\'s the best we can hope for, we are screwed.

Dead_Real
04-15-2006, 12:03 PM
Our 2007-2008 roster should look like this.

Raymond Felton/Brevin Knight/Alan Anderson
Gerald Wallace/FA/Matt Carroll
Adam Morrison/J.Jones
Jamison/Sean May/Ely
Emeka Okafor/Premo

tray
04-15-2006, 08:33 PM
Dead_real wrote:

Our 2007-2008 roster should look like this.

Raymond Felton/Brevin Knight/Alan Anderson
Gerald Wallace/FA/Matt Carroll
Adam Morrison/J.Jones
Jamison/Sean May/Ely
Emeka Okafor/Premo

I disagree. I say the top players should be:

Raymond Felton/Kevin Burleson
Gerald Green/Matt Carroll
Antawn Jamison or Gerald Wallace/Alan Anderson
Okafor/May
Brendan Haywood

Gerald Wallace is not a 2 and should not be expected to be a two unless his shooting improves 360%.

Without Gerald Green, I put Jamison at 2.

Dead_Real
04-15-2006, 08:39 PM
I would not let Kevin B. back up Felton he sucks ass and we are not getting Gerald Green. Boston would not give him up and BK will return next season.

ziggy
04-16-2006, 10:16 PM
Let me throw some more gasoline on the this fire. These are the website poll results through this evening on who to draft if we have the top pick in the 2006 draft:

Adam Morrison 29.3% *** Can\'t argue with this, we need scoring in the worst way

Rudy Gay 19% *** A higher percentage of people like him than I would have thought

Lamarcus Aldridge 13.8% *** Do we need to draft another PF

JJ Redick 10.3% *** These people need their basketball licenses revoked

Tyrus Thomas 10.3% *** Is he the next Stromile or the next Amare?

Brandon Roy 5.2% *** Nice player, too high for #1 though

Ronnie Brewer 5.2% *** Ditto

Rodney Carney 3.4% *** Ditto

Andrea Bargnani 1.7% *** Is he the next Dirk?

Tiago Splitter 1.7% *** Supposedly whoever drafts him will have to buy out his Euro contract.

tray
04-20-2006, 02:05 AM
Dead_real wrote:

I would not let Kevin B. back up Felton he sucks ass and we are not getting Gerald Green. Boston would not give him up and BK will return next season.

I\'m so glad that you know that Boston will not give up Gerald Green. Obviously, you don\'t know.