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buckethead
06-04-2006, 01:55 PM
The Houston Chronicle is reporting that JJ Redick measured out at 6\'3 & 1/4 \" with an unusually short wingspan of 6\' 2\".
He won\'t have a prayer of guarding any SG in the league. They\'ll either take him down low, or just shoot over the top of him.

Dead_Real
06-04-2006, 02:14 PM
I don\'t hate JJ its just that I would hate for us using a lottery pick on him.

heelfan
06-04-2006, 02:58 PM
Dead_real wrote:

I don\'t hate JJ its just that I would hate for us using a lottery pick on him. I\'ll be the first to admit that I AM a Redick hater, and that height measurement and wingspan combined with his inability to play any point guard minutes, his inability to create his own shot and his lack of athleticism drops him all the way down to a 2nd round pick if I were a GM doing the drafting.

Wallace15
06-04-2006, 08:49 PM
I\'ll be the second one to admit that I\'m also a JJ hater. JJ will have no shot in the NBA.

ziggy
06-04-2006, 09:27 PM
If JJ is real lucky and finds the perfect coach in the perfect system, surrounded by the ideal group of players then MAYBE he could get to the level of Steve Kerr.... MAYBE.

Slam
06-04-2006, 09:50 PM
Why is everyone so sure that Morrison will have an NBA career and at the same time can say that JJ is going to be a bust?

JJ on the Rockets or Jazz would be the right environment for him to shine.

I\'m no JJ lover, but I like the way he works so hard off the ball and works for his shots.

ziggy
06-04-2006, 10:27 PM
Theres a couple of things that make me believe that Morrison can make it but Redick can\'t but the biggest reason is size: Morrison measures out at 6\'8\" which is a legitimate small forward height. Now if he measures out at 6\'6 &1/2\", then all bets are off.
Redick measuring at 6\'3\" and change. making a living at the shooting guard spot being undersized without an over abundance of athleticism are a couple of big strikes against him. Somehow hes going to have to get his shot off over 6\'6\" and 6\'7\" long armed guards, and for the life of me I just don\'t see how that can happen routinely enough for him to be effective.
If I\'m wrong though, I\'ll be the first one to admit it.

To be fair Morrison\'s build concerns me quite a bit, hes built like someone who\'s been living off of meth and diet coke his whole life.

Slam
06-04-2006, 10:51 PM
Sorry Zig, that doesn\'t wash with me.

I don\'t care if Morrison is a viking giant with a basketball in one hand a club in the other, he aviods contact, doesn\'t box out, doesn\'t playa lick of D and is the poster child for an unathletic world.

You ask how JJ will get his shots off in the NBA?

How the hell with Morrison get his shots off against LeBron, Bowen, Crash and the 30 or so other athletic SF\'s in the game?

At least JJ plays the passing lanes, can pick off passes and has some quikness coming off screens.

The fact that Morrison is meant to be a SF but has none of the required SF skills other than shooting (which I\'m still not sure he wil be able to do in the NBA) makes no difference that he is 6\'8\" - in fact the fact that he has some height and doesn\'t use it makes it worse.

ziggy
06-04-2006, 11:22 PM
Morrison doesn\'t have much of a history of playing defense, I\'ll give you that, but at 6\'8\" he DOES have the capacity to develop into at least a mediocre defensive player.
Mechanically and physicallly its possible.
He doesn\'t immediately have one strike against him for being undersized. Offensively I think that he\'ll be able to get his shot off in the NBA, because he releases the ball very high making it tough to block.

On the other hand, I look at JJ being undersized, short armed, without much of a vertical and for the life of me, I don\'t see how he can succeed playing the two guard in the NBA. With his physical attributes it just can\'t be done succesfully.
I can\'t figure out how it can happen anyway.

Slam
06-05-2006, 11:43 AM
Kerr was undersized, Wesley is undersized, Gilbert is undersized, Barbosa is undersized, Gordon is undersized but what they all have in common is their ability to make space for themselves by working hard off the ball (Gilbert is the exception - he can break you down off the dribble too).

JJ can do the same thing. He, unlike Morrison, is continual motion. Morrison needs the rock in his hands to create (not that that is a bad thing) but doesn\'t work as hard as JJ.