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ziggy
06-29-2006, 03:02 PM
about drafting Morrison. Do you think they\'re excited about it? Disappointed, or do you think that it doesn\'t matter to them?

dav7z
06-29-2006, 03:18 PM
I think Felton,Crash,and B.K. will love it because hes a hard nose refuse to lose kind of guy.
But you know ok50 had to want Rudy GAY,
Hope something like dont get in the way of how they play toghter.

tray
06-29-2006, 03:28 PM
If they were determined to \"draft\" someone just because a draft was taking place, which I knew they were going to do from the moment they brought Jordan in because he had to have his \"first pick\" with the Bobcats, instead of doing the smart thing like the Boston Celtics did and look within the league for the Specific Position that they needed (for the Celtics it was PG and they got Telfair), then they may as well have taken Morrison, even though it didn\'t matter who they took from this draft.

None of them fit the 2-guard slot that the Bobcats needed the most.

They should have dealt the pick for Gerald Green and Wally Szczerbiak. Gerald Green and Felton would have been the best backcourt in the East in a few years time, and Morrison will be no better than Szczerbiak in a few years.

ziggy
06-29-2006, 03:35 PM
I don\'t remember Wally S. lighting people up for 40+ at the college level.
I think Morrison is going to put up some numbers at the pro level.

dav7z
06-29-2006, 03:51 PM
No way you can put Wally and Morrison in the same class. Morrison will see 30 ppg at least 10 times this year.Morrison is old school if you want to compare him to somebody. Larry Bird is better to compare him with than Wally. Not saying hes a L.Bird.

Dead_Real
06-29-2006, 04:06 PM
^I agree but when its all said and done I think Gay will be the better player, Morrison will be a consistant starter for us though and will see some all star games.

On to the players you have to think Felton is happy and so is Wallace, first Felton because is dimes will be out of this world I\'m calling 10+ this year, Wallace is going to be scoring a lot this year and so is Okafor with the many bodys Ammo will be drawing.

Slam
06-29-2006, 05:04 PM
There is no way Wallace and Okafor get more looks this year. In fact if anything, they will get less.

Morrison HAS TO HAVE THE BALL IN HIS HANDS to be effective. That means he\'s going to be the one jacking up the shots, which means less shots for Wallace, Okafor and Felton.

All Morrison does is shoot. He doesn\'t board. He doesn\'t create for others and he sure as shit doesn\'t play D.

Tray is right, he\'ll be Szczerbiak V.2 at best.

Szczerbiak had 24 games of 25pts or more this last sesaon. If Morrison ever get\'s close to that I\'ll be amazed.

To use the name Bird and Morrison in the same sentance, unless the words \"nothing like\" are put in the middle is wrong.

Bird could shoot. Bird could rebound. Bird could play D.

All Morrison can do is shoot.

I expect he\'ll be a younger Peja at best, a Szczerbiak more likely

dav7z
06-29-2006, 05:37 PM
Felton will have more dimes,Wallace will get his shots off better because he want have three people waiting on him to go to the hole.Because of a out side presence in Morrison. OK50 now may see less shots.But hes in thair 4 his defence and rebounds anyway.So far ok50 has never been a great shooter any way.Premo WILL STILL POP OUT 4 THE 15 FOOTER .Just tell me how opening up the defence hurts the team . It makes no sence at all.
You must not have been around when Bird came out of college. He wasent that good on defence either. He had to learn to play angles just like Morrison will have to do. Jordon and Bernie both said hes going to have to learn to play angles because of the foot speed.
Hard work and playing angles is what made Bird make the all defencive team. ALL so how many rebounds did Bird average in college. Dam just give the guy a chance.

Slam
06-29-2006, 07:15 PM
dav7z wrote:

Felton will have more dimes,Wallace will get his shots off better because he want have three people waiting on him to go to the hole.Because of a out side presence in Morrison. OK50 now may see less shots.But hes in thair 4 his defence and rebounds anyway.So far ok50 has never been a great shooter any way.Premo WILL STILL POP OUT 4 THE 15 FOOTER .Just tell me how opening up the defence hurts the team . It makes no sence at all.
You must not have been around when Bird came out of college. He wasent that good on defence either. He had to learn to play angles just like Morrison will have to do. Jordon and Bernie both said hes going to have to learn to play angles because of the foot speed.
Hard work and playing angles is what made Bird make the all defencive team. ALL so how many rebounds did Bird average in college. Dam just give the guy a chance.

Good God hot shot. What are you talking about? Bird averaged 10 boards a game coming into the leauge!!

He also averaged 5 assist and almost 2 steals a game!!

Bird was always a solid defender. In his final year at Indiana in \'79 alone he won the Collegiate Player of the Year awards from Associated Press, United Press International, and National Association of Coaches; won the John Wooden Award, given to the nations best college basketball player; selected to the 1979 All-America team; leads ISU to the NCAA Final Four, losing in the championship game to Magic Johnson-led Michigan State University.

His NBA career and selection to the All NBA defensive team didn\'t just happen over night.

He was always a solid defender.

heelfan
06-29-2006, 07:58 PM
Hes not going to be the next Larry Bird, and I\'m ok with that. If he can be the next Chris Mullin then I\'m absolutely comfortable with him being a Bobcat. If Chris Mullin could figure out how to guard people then I KNOW that Ammo can. Mullin looked like he was walking through molasses in slow motion when he was on the court, but somehow he figured out how to get the job done.

dav7z
06-29-2006, 08:33 PM
So you do know something about Bird. He was one of the greats of all time.And if you read all of the post you would read i said hes NOT, L Bird .But you come on hear and trash Morrison, The guy plays hard . Hes won the awards ,and he loves the game more than most.He led the nation in scoring and with his passion he will learn to play good defence.
Oh i forgot you know more about talant than Jordon and Bernie ha.May be they shuld put you over the cats so Johnson dont lose any more money.
So what do you peedict with the addition of Morrison the cats win 5 games this year.Its like you said hes just trash. He hurts ok50 hurts Felton he hurts Wallace hurts Premo.May be we shuld just cut him.Would that be the right thing to do being the basketball mind you are , PLEASE let all of that dont know nothing the right thing to do.

Dead_Real
06-29-2006, 08:51 PM
Lets just give him a chance, I wasnt that high on Morrison but if he helps us get to that next level maybe 30-38 wins I will be happy. His intensity is what seperates him from most \"white\" ballers, he isnt afraid to go in the paint and hit a crazy looking shot. One thing that is underrated about Morrison is his passing, Felton and Morrison should work well together and become cool with each other. We are talking about Emeka we don\'t even know if he is even close to 100% yet lets just give Ammo time, I will mark out if he drops 40+. My question is how will we run and gun with Morrison maybe if Felton is in the paint he can dish out to a great scorer sort of like we do already with Primo and JJ.

tray
06-30-2006, 09:43 AM
ziggy wrote:

I don\'t remember Wally S. lighting people up for 40+ at the college level.
I think Morrison is going to put up some numbers at the pro level.

Szczerbiak was Mr. Everything in College, and he was good his first few years in the league. He peaked early, as will Morrison.

It won\'t last.

tray
06-30-2006, 09:44 AM
Dead_real wrote:

Lets just give him a chance, I wasnt that high on Morrison but if he helps us get to that next level maybe 30-38 wins I will be happy. His intensity is what seperates him from most \"white\" ballers, he isnt afraid to go in the paint and hit a crazy looking shot. One thing that is underrated about Morrison is his passing, Felton and Morrison should work well together and become cool with each other. We are talking about Emeka we don\'t even know if he is even close to 100% yet lets just give Ammo time, I will mark out if he drops 40+. My question is how will we run and gun with Morrison maybe if Felton is in the paint he can dish out to a great scorer sort of like we do already with Primo and JJ.

It\'s not about \"chance.\"

The Bobcats still need a Shooting Guard, and they\'ll be trying to get one, probably next season.

dav7z
06-30-2006, 01:18 PM
Bernie said yesterday Wallace was going to play the 2 and gard the better off. player. Defending ,playing the passing lanes, and takeing the ball to the hole, the way he does. All i see for Wallace this year is dunk city. A nice back court Wallace and Felton , Shuld be a lot of steals and fast breaks.

heelfan
06-30-2006, 05:03 PM
Felton & Wallace in the backcourt would be awesome... If thats the case though, I hope Crash is in the gym working on his jumper this summer.

bravez88
07-02-2006, 04:01 AM
Big Slam wrote:



All Morrison can do is shoot.

How many games have you seen the guy play? He is a good shooter and he can also get to the basket really well, he is not the best rebounder but most people one this site completely underrate his passing. He can pass very well but, it did not show in his stats because his team could not knock down the shots, he will be a very solid NBA player. He is not as selfish a player as he is made out to be but in order for his team to win he had to carry them on his back. I do however agree that his D needs a lot of work.

ziggy
07-02-2006, 10:19 AM
bravez88, Welcome to the Board!!:) :P :)

You made a very good point about Adam Morrison\'s low assist numbers at Gonzaga. Outside of J.P. Batista, there wasn\'t anybody else on that team that could consistently knock down a shot when he passed them the ball. With that lineup there was no way for him to have decent assist numbers. In fact the leading assist guy on the team was Derek Raivio with a measly 2.8 apg.
Once again welcome to the board!!!

psycho
07-02-2006, 10:37 AM
bravez88 wrote:

How many games have you seen the guy play? He is a good shooter and he can also get to the basket really well, he is not the best rebounder but most people one this site completely underrate his passing. He can pass very well but, it did not show in his stats because his team could not knock down the shots, he will be a very solid NBA player. He is not as selfish a player as he is made out to be but in order for his team to win he had to carry them on his back. I do however agree that his D needs a lot of work. bravez88, glad to have some more Ammo fans on board, I\'d say the board was split pretty evenly on who they wanted the Bobcats to draft between Gay and Morrison. BUT, the first time that Morrison drops 30+ on somebody\'s head, those Rudy Gay fans will be breaking their ankles jumping off of the Rudy bandwagon trying to climb onto Morrison\'s bandwagon.
Welcome to the funB)

bravez88
07-02-2006, 04:23 PM
thanks for the nice welcome my top 3 favorite college teams have always been UNC, Gonzaga, and Ohio State. I had never really watched NBA but when I saw their draft last year I started to get really into them. With AMMO I am now in love with the team.

heelfan
07-02-2006, 04:49 PM
I think that once Adam gets on the court with the Bobcats hes going to surprise a lot of his doubters. Last year at Gonzaga, all of the opposing coaches double and triple teamed him game in and game out. But he still managed to get 28+ a game. In the NBA he won\'t have to deal with a bunch of crazy junk defenses, because if they double him either Felton or Wallace will kill them.
As a Gonzaga fan, what do you think we\'ll see from Morrison in his rookie year?

bravez88
07-02-2006, 05:22 PM
I think you will see him shoot more from the outside in the beginning of the season, but as the season goes on he will start to drive to the basket which he does extremely well. He mas struggle with the speed of the game for a while but you will see him progress. Another thing he has the most emotion and passion for the game I have ever seen.