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ashy_larry
07-25-2006, 05:24 PM
According to the Seattle Post Intelligencer Forward/Center Chris Wilcox is looking for a Nene sized contract, Something in the 6 year / 60 million dollar range.

Do you think Chris Wilcox is worth that much money, And if so, should the Bobcats make a run at him?
We\'re sitting on a buttload of cap space and we need to spend it on somebody.

dav7z
07-25-2006, 05:35 PM
With the core players we got and the contracts with players like ok5o , Ray, May, Morrison, Wallace comeing up i cant see giveing 10 mil a year to any one except a player like a WADE OR James.
But im just thinking long term.

ashy_larry
07-25-2006, 06:13 PM
dav7z wrote:

With the core players we got and the contracts with players like ok5o , Ray, May, Morrison, Wallace comeing up i cant see giveing 10 mil a year to any one except a player like a WADE OR James.
But im just thinking long term. Hes 24 years old, athletic, can run the court and put Primoz on the bench and play center. I\'d give him 9 or 10 million a year. The Bobcats are so far under the cap that its crazy.

tamburello
07-25-2006, 07:31 PM
He doosn\'t(or shouldn\'t) worth that much. If we\'ll have Ely for one more year or send him away, we can make a run at Wilcox. But if we tie Ely to a multi-year deal(which is unlikely), Wilcox is unnecessary.

We shouldn\'t spend on him more than 7 million per year.

Slam
07-25-2006, 07:55 PM
dav7z wrote:

With the core players we got and the contracts with players like ok5o , Ray, May, Morrison, Wallace comeing up i cant see giveing 10 mil a year to any one except a player like a WADE OR James.
But im just thinking long term.

Wade or James are worth $15+ million a year, not $10.

Wilcox is NOT worth $10 million a year..........but that wont stop him from getting it.

Nene isn\'t worth $10 million a year and he got it.

It\'s not always about the players skill. The monitary value of a player is usually dictated by a market rate.

Is Salmons worth $5 mill a year?

No

Is Nene worth $10 mill a year?

No

Is Wilcox worth $10 mill a year?

Is Ely worth $6 mill a year?

No, but I bet he get it (or at least close to it).

ziggy
07-25-2006, 08:06 PM
If the Bobcats could put something together for 9 mill a year for Chris Wilcox, not only would it improve the team, but it would also prove to other NBA players and agents that Bob John$on will unhinge his change purse and cut loose some cash to make the team better. I think proving that is just as important as the player acquisition in this stage of the franchise\'s development.

If hes remotely interested in the Bobcats then I say throw money at him.

heelfan
07-25-2006, 10:54 PM
Is he worth $10 million a year? No.
Should we make a run at him for $10 million a year? Yes.

Winning games is about who has the most talent that they can put on the court, not who has the most salary cap space.
The Bobcats need to spend some money on some significant free agent signings.

Slam
07-26-2006, 12:49 AM
Is he worth $10 million a year? No.
Should we make a run at him for $10 million a year? Yes.

Isn\'t that an oxymoron brother?

I mean I dig what you are saying:


Winning games is about who has the most talent that they can put on the court, not who has the most salary cap space.

I like that line a lot, but just because we have the space I don\'t think we should abuse it by over paying for someone who doesn\'t deserve it.

Jonathanmartin7
07-26-2006, 01:12 AM
Nope, no way. I don\'t think he\'s worth 5. Would we have to sign him for more than a season? Cause next year we have a chance at antwan, and vince. Don\'t want to tie up money and miss out on either one of those. And doesn\'t he play PF? Do we need another big guy? We just signed Harrington, why I don\'t know but we did. With him, mek, may, primo, ely. I mean how many guys do we need to rebound?

heelfan
07-26-2006, 01:39 AM
Big Slam wrote:

I like that line a lot, but just because we have the space I don\'t think we should abuse it by over paying for someone who doesn\'t deserve it.
Why have all this cap space if we aren\'t going to use it? I don\'t want to go hog wild with it like the New York Knicks did and wreck the cap completely, I\'d just like to use it for a player or two that will actually affect our win-loss column. Kevin Burleson and Othella Harrington are insignificant.
JonathanMartin7 mentioned the fact that it was a good idea to save some cap space for Vince Carter and Antowain Jamison who are going to be available in 2007, but I think the Bobcats are putting too much stock into their ability to sign one of those 2 ( plus, neither one is getting any younger )

Mustachio
07-26-2006, 03:44 PM
i agree with you heel fan... no way do we save up money just to get an aging antwan or an aging vince carter. granted a superstar sg would be nice... but i dont think those two guys warrant a superstar status or contract.

As far as wilcox goes. im torn id like to see a starting center option other than primoz, but how much better is wilcox than primoz i dont know. i definetly dont want to pay him 10 mil for multiple years. theres a chance that we might have a lottery spot next year again. and old greg oden is gonna be available in the draft. sure its a long shot you get that kid, hes a number one overall without a doubt. so do you tie up a bunch of money on wilcox. if we can get him for less than two years for around 8 mil per. id say go for it. otherwise nope!

heelfan
07-26-2006, 07:59 PM
Mustachio wrote:

i agree with you heel fan... no way do we save up money just to get an aging antwan or an aging vince carter. granted a superstar sg would be nice... but i dont think those two guys warrant a superstar status or contract.

As far as wilcox goes. im torn id like to see a starting center option other than primoz, but how much better is wilcox than primoz i dont know. i definetly dont want to pay him 10 mil for multiple years. theres a chance that we might have a lottery spot next year again. and old greg oden is gonna be available in the draft. sure its a long shot you get that kid, hes a number one overall without a doubt. so do you tie up a bunch of money on wilcox. if we can get him for less than two years for around 8 mil per. id say go for it. otherwise nope! Wilcox would be a nice upgrade for us over Primoz in terms of rebounding, defense and physicality.
Plain and simple, Primoz is soft.

What this signing would really do for me as a Bobcats fan is prove that we won\'t be in a perennial cycle of saving cap space for next season. I can hear the 2007 free agency excuses already. they\'ll let Vince and Antowain get away to somebody else and then they will claim that there isn\'t anybody else worth giving big bucks too in that class so the best thing to do is save money for 2008.
2008 another excuse to save money for 2009
2009 another excuse to save money for 2010

And so on And so on And so on.

dav7z
07-27-2006, 02:52 PM
Dead i agree that Primoz is soft and we need a upgrade bad. But to give Wilcox SIX years and 60mil sounds like a knicks deal to me. The 10mil dont sound that bad, but the SIX YEARS turns me away. I would not mind something like a THREE year 30mil deal . I just dont want us to tie our self up with him for SIX years.
ALL SO id allmost bet the house thet we see Jameison become a Bobcat. Hes all ready made his money and he would do all most any thing to come home.Thats why hes been at the training center most of the summer.Ive even heard him say at the charity game at HIGHLAND jr high in gastonia . That he wants to finish his carer at home. So i look to see him become a Bobcat at a mid level or even a NBA min just to be near home.

dav7z
07-27-2006, 03:10 PM
SORRY about that duble post. And im allso sorry about saying Dead when i ment Heelfan about PRIMOZ being soft.Being soft i agree 100percent

Wallace15
07-27-2006, 05:57 PM
Yeah, Primo is soft as hell but if we signed Wilcox I think it would be better to put him at the 4 and Emeka at the 5.

Felton
Wallace
Morrison
Wilcox
Okafor

dav7z
07-27-2006, 06:42 PM
THUMBS UP
Now we thinking, Wilcox or not start Emeka at the five. Dont like the SIX years 60 mil but thats been said.
1. Felton
2. Wallace
3. Morrison
4. May or Wilcox
5. Emeka
Bring in Primo,B.K.,Harrington.Carol,Anderson off the bench. And or Ely and B Rob

ziggy
07-27-2006, 07:52 PM
heelfan wrote:

Big Slam wrote:
...save some cap space for Vince Carter and Antowain Jamison who are going to be available in 2007, but I think the Bobcats are putting too much stock into their ability to sign one of those 2 ( plus, neither one is getting any younger )
Another couple of points to add about saving $$$ for Vinsanity or Jamison:

Vince relies on his athleticism to do his thing on the court. NBA players who rely on their physical skills (as impressive as they might be) as opposed to their basketball fundamentals are usually pretty worthless by the time they reach 33 or 34 years of age. By next season he\'ll be 31(I think), and IMO he\'ll e wanting a lot of years on his contract which would be a bad idea for the Bobcats. For the second half of his contract, he\'ll likely be a shell of the player that he was in the first half.

Jamison is a good solid player, a borderline all-star. But he isn\'t the type of player that would take us from 38 wins to 48 wins. Hes a good complimentary player, but not somebody that I would want to break the bank for.

Jonathanmartin7
07-28-2006, 12:21 AM
We\'d be better off with somebody else other than Ely.No matter who we sign the year Vince and Antwan are available. Isn\'t that year supposed to be one of the deepest ever? Ely simply isn\'t very good. I\'d rather keep Primo and get one or two solid FA\'s next year. We don\'t have to sign the best just keep adding solid building blocks to what we have. IMO Ely is NOT a solid building block.