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Dead_Real
12-30-2006, 01:40 PM
Charlotte Observer -
The Charlotte Bobcats , in need of a fill-in point guard, have been in discussions with the New Jersey Nets , possibly about acquiring Jeff McInnis, the Charlotte Observer is reporting.

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/43973/20061230/bobcats_might_seek_mcinnis/

I would much rather target a young project player like Julius Hodge what are you guys thoughts on this possible deal?

tamburello
12-30-2006, 03:08 PM
I would much rather target a young project player like Julius Hodge what are you guys thoughts on this possible deal?


Nuggets are also willing to unload Hodge for luxury tax reasons. But he looks as such a problematic player. We should target other youngs.

In current situation, I cannot suggest a better option than McInnis or Banks. Banks' contract is so huge to absorb. But McInnis + 2nd rounder for Ely is OK for me. He's also problematic but in the last year of his contract, hasn't played since Jan. 2006, and wants to re-attract attentions of clubs. That'd be last chance of him. So he'd be satisfied with any role he is demanded.

Wallace15
12-30-2006, 05:25 PM
I'm all go for getting Hodge. I'm a huge NCSU fan, and I loved watching him play when he was there. He'd cause a lot mismatches at the point.

ziggy
12-30-2006, 06:58 PM
I'm all go for getting Hodge. I'm a huge NCSU fan, and I loved watching him play when he was there. He'd cause a lot mismatches at the point.
I'd prefer Julius Hodge way more than Jeff McGinnis. Jeff has a tendency to disrupt every team that hes on, and the last thing that we need is chemistry problems.
Also we could get Hodge for next to nothing.

dvdbumpus
12-30-2006, 08:43 PM
I'm all go for getting Hodge. I'm a huge NCSU fan, and I loved watching him play when he was there. He'd cause a lot mismatches at the point.
I'd prefer Julius Hodge way more than Jeff McGinnis. Jeff has a tendency to disrupt every team that hes on, and the last thing that we need is chemistry problems.
Also we could get Hodge for next to nothing.



While Hodge would be good, he's unproven. We do need to get a talent boost on the roster though, and either would help, but Hodge has upside. A big reason I'd get Micinnis is that since he is in a contract year, he'd probably play better, and be on his best behavior to attract suitors.

Banks would be nice to have as a stud backup/insurance poilicy. We could get rid of BK after the year or trade him. Having Felton/Banks in the backcourt would be great, and Banks only makes 5mil a year, which isn't HORRIBLE since he was the starting PG for minnesota last year, and is learning under Steve Nash.

Give me Hodge, Mcinnis, Banks, or Conroy if the oppertunity or bargain is there. We at least have options.

djack
12-30-2006, 08:54 PM
Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but I get the feeling that Bob Johnson and company aren't going to choose the best option for a backup point guard, They'll simply choose the cheapest option for a backup point guard.
With that being said, It'll probably be Conroy since they could get him on a 10 day contract really cheap.

dvdbumpus
12-31-2006, 12:38 AM
Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but I get the feeling that Bob Johnson and company aren't going to choose the best option for a backup point guard, They'll simply choose the cheapest option for a backup point guard.
With that being said, It'll probably be Conroy since they could get him on a 10 day contract really cheap.



I'll be happy with any option. but I'd prefer getting someone with some actual use for more than 10 days; but who knows? Maybe Conroy can become our stud backup and make Brevin expendable. I don't really care who it is, as long as it allows Brevin to become even more expendable. :rock: on Felton!


And on another note, what if we signed Jay Williams to a 10 day contract. His upside is tremendously higher than Conroy or any other player in the NBDL or the FA wire..regardless of crash or not. He's a SMART basketball player. It also helps he's a NC college alumni - even if it is the hated Dukies.

tray
12-31-2006, 10:40 AM
I have come to the conclusion that the Bobcats management team is as dumb as dirt.

If they had a brain, they'd be building for the future. This team is never going to be good enough to win without a capable two-guard.

Adam Morrison is a scorer, not a two-guard, in the new mold. This does not affect him.

They need to go out and get JR Smith if they can. Someone young like that who can grow in between Felton (PG) and Morrison (SF), along with them.

Gerald Wallace has been on a scoring frenzy, but the way he scores is not in a way that provides any long-term success for the Bobcats. If they have to get rid of him in order to get someone like JR Smith who can operate within the flow of an offense, instead of scoring (Like Wallace does) when the offense breaks down through rebounds and putbacks only, then I'm all for it.

Going out and getting someone like McInnis is yet another plug that adds nothing long-term to the Bobcats. They aren't going anywhere this year, they need to be constructing a team that can grow together and win in at least 2 seasons. It's never going to happen with the current make up of this team.

They need an athletic two-guard with potential, like JR Smith. Then they can get a center in this year's draft, and they'd have a team that will show dramatic improvement next season, and make the playoffs in 2 seasons.

If they keep the team in the way that it is, with Wallace as the fixture, they aren't going anywhere. Wallace is a grind-it-out player, not a player that scores within the flow of an offense, so you can't really run one with him out there.

djack
12-31-2006, 11:00 AM
I have come to the conclusion that the Bobcats management team is as dumb as dirt.

If they had a brain, they'd be building for the future. This team is never going to be good enough to win without a capable two-guard.

Adam Morrison is a scorer, not a two-guard, in the new mold. This does not affect him.

They need to go out and get JR Smith if they can. Someone young like that who can grow in between Felton (PG) and Morrison (SF), along with them.

Gerald Wallace has been on a scoring frenzy, but the way he scores is not in a way that provides any long-term success for the Bobcats. If they have to get rid of him in order to get someone like JR Smith who can operate within the flow of an offense, instead of scoring (Like Wallace does) when the offense breaks down through rebounds and putbacks only, then I'm all for it.

Going out and getting someone like McInnis is yet another plug that adds nothing long-term to the Bobcats. They aren't going anywhere this year, they need to be constructing a team that can grow together and win in at least 2 seasons. It's never going to happen with the current make up of this team.

They need an athletic two-guard with potential, like JR Smith. Then they can get a center in this year's draft, and they'd have a team that will show dramatic improvement next season, and make the playoffs in 2 seasons.

If they keep the team in the way that it is, with Wallace as the fixture, they aren't going anywhere. Wallace is a grind-it-out player, not a player that scores within the flow of an offense, so you can't really run one with him out there.

I plugged Gerald Wallace for JR Smith into the ESPN Trade Machine and it didn't work out because Denver is over the cap and Crash makes 4 million more than JR. In order for it to work the Nuggets would need to dump one of their big salaries on us too. Nene Hilario maybe?

dav7z
12-31-2006, 02:51 PM
In current situation, I cannot suggest a better option than McInnis or Banks. Banks' contract is so huge to absorb. But McInnis + 2nd rounder for Ely is OK for me. He's also problematic but in the last year of his contract, hasn't played since Jan. 2006, and wants to re-attract attentions of clubs. That'd be last chance of him. So he'd be satisfied with any role he is demanded.
[/quote] I agree totaly Mcinnis is our best out right now. A 2nd ROUND pick and Mcinnis for our number 10 or 11 th player off the beanch. Plus that also gives us about 3,3 mil more to pick up what our biggest need is next year . As deap as that draft is going to be we could put them 2 2nd round picks toghter move up and and have a good chance of getting a very nice player. THIS TRADE IS A NO BRAINER

Slam
12-31-2006, 03:06 PM
McInnis is a cancer and we all know you cant cure cancer.

Trade Ely to them for McInnis and 1st round pick and then cut McInnis.

OR

Trade Primoz for Banks.

Banks is solid and just was just given a community appreciation award in Pheonix for work he has done there.

Solid sort of guy.

ziggy
12-31-2006, 03:17 PM
If the Bobcats are able to trade Primoz straight up for Banks, then I'll buy Primoz' bus ticket to Phoenix myself.

Primoz has been M.I.A. for the Bobcats all season, but he would flourish in that Suns wide open offense.

dav7z
12-31-2006, 07:01 PM
If the Bobcats are able to trade Primoz straight up for Banks, then I'll buy Primoz' bus ticket to Phoenix myself.

Primoz has been M.I.A. for the Bobcats all season, but he would flourish in that Suns wide open offense.
I agree with you Ziggy on one thing Primoz is M.I A. and lets get real the suns wouldnt trade thair ball boy for Primoz right now.
Lets get down to what we need. We need a back up point yesterday.So it comes down to Primoz or Ely for who. Who is the best point do you guys think we can get for either one of those two.

dvdbumpus
12-31-2006, 07:12 PM
McInnis is a cancer and we all know you cant cure cancer.

Trade Ely to them for McInnis and 1st round pick and then cut McInnis.

OR

Trade Primoz for Banks.

Banks is solid and just was just given a community appreciation award in Pheonix for work he has done there.

Solid sort of guy.


If they did this, I would be happy. that first round pick would be nice and shiny for this years draft. Then we could pick up a stopgap PG until Brevin is back, and then we'd be able to trade that 1st rounder + Primo or Ely for a SG (Kevin Martin) or someone along this lines to solidly fill the 2. J.R. Smith would be a great addition but risky, and I don't think the Cats are fans of players coming out of high school. They seem to like championship players.

Dude, what about Rip Hamilton? Give them Crash and the 1st rounder from the nets for Hamilton and a 2nd rounder. What would it take to get him?

Slam
12-31-2006, 11:24 PM
McInnis is a cancer and we all know you cant cure cancer.

Trade Ely to them for McInnis and 1st round pick and then cut McInnis.

OR

Trade Primoz for Banks.

Banks is solid and just was just given a community appreciation award in Pheonix for work he has done there.

Solid sort of guy.


If they did this, I would be happy. that first round pick would be nice and shiny for this years draft. Then we could pick up a stopgap PG until Brevin is back, and then we'd be able to trade that 1st rounder + Primo or Ely for a SG (Kevin Martin) or someone along this lines to solidly fill the 2. J.R. Smith would be a great addition but risky, and I don't think the Cats are fans of players coming out of high school. They seem to like championship players.

Dude, what about Rip Hamilton? Give them Crash and the 1st rounder from the nets for Hamilton and a 2nd rounder. What would it take to get him?


Can't see us getting Rip at all and with Ammo on the roster, I don't see a position for him (unless we moved Ammo). They are too similar.

The Pistons have Prince which pretty much removes the need of Crash for them.

If it was me, I'd trade Crash and Jake to the Raptors for Joey Graham and Rasho plus they pift the protection from the pick they owe us. I don't see them making the playoffs this year (regardless of how they are placed right now) so it would also be a lotto pick.

With our 1st pick I'd hope like hell to be in a position to draft Oden or Durant and with the 2nd pick draft Marcus Williams from Arizona.

Williams is going to be a pretty sweet SG in the NBA.

Slam
12-31-2006, 11:25 PM
P.S. I'd rather Banks than McInnis

dvdbumpus
01-01-2007, 01:13 AM
I'd rather have Banks than Mcinnis as well. A shoot first point guard, and 5 mil may be expensive, but he'd probably end up getting starter's minutes so 5 mil a year would be worth it.

We're so far under the cap anyways that it wouldn't be a bad investment for a 25 year old good player that could easily start.

As long as it improves the team, the money is 2nd to me!