Official Draft thread

[dvdbumpus]

http://www.nbadraft.net/

It shows us at #6 and taking Hasheem Thabeet. It also has Marcus Williams at #18 for Toronto's pick...which is ceded to us :biggrin:

[123together]

i would trade down for chase budinger, i think he'll be awesome in the pros, he can shoot, jump, and handle the ball well. that would give us an additional pick, and hopefully we could get another solid player

[123together]

or al thornton, i think he'll be solid in the pros, like josh howard or an al harrington type of player. with wallace getting injured on occasion, he could be valuable

[dvdbumpus]

I would personally take Chase Budinger over Marcus Williams. He's a lot stronger equaling a lot better finisher. He's also a great shooter. Arizona products know how to drain the 3.

[Dead_Real]

Durant!

[Slam]

Chad Budinger wont declare this year and even if he did I'm not sure why you would place him ahead of Williams??

Williams has a better killer instinct, better ball skills, higher ball IQ, better shooter, better at creating his own shot.

Budinger is a better athlete but doesn't take it to the hole nearly enough and with force to take advantage of it.

He's like JR Smith.

[dav7z]

I think we should take the best big left with our pick. Unless we make the play offs . If that happens we going to have like a 15 and a 16th picks.Any way with that 2 nd pick its going to be a lot of good sg and sf left.
I would give up both picks and ammo for Durant

[ziggy]

I would give up both picks and ammo for Durant
In a heartbeat.

[dvdbumpus]

Ok, say we continue with this trend and end up with say, a #8 pick and we get Toronto's pick this year @ say, #22.

First, Would you guys rather go with a stud shooter like Chase Budinger/Marcus Williams, go with a raw center with a high ceiling in Hasheem Thabeet, or trade the pick away in a package deal?

Second, with Toronto's pick, should we take a 2nd tier shooter like Morris Almond (assuming we went big first). If we went with a stud shooter first, would you guys want to go with a guy like Nick Fazekas or or Tyler Hansbrough?

Personally, I would take the best big man avaiable first, regardless unless it's a #13 or lower spot. Then I would take a flyer on a guy like Daequan cook or pray marcus Williams falls to me. I think this draft is so deep with shooters, we could get someone that could turn out well for us. The big men are harder to find.

This would also be basing off who is available at our 2nd round pick assuming we still have it. If it's the 2nd round, 8th pick, that's when we go with the best player available, regarldess. Shooter, big guy, point, defensive stud: who cares? We went with the best player left to improve the team. Teams that draft based solely on need always lose. That's why Michael Jordan went #3 instead of #2.

Now, on the topic of trading the picks away, it would really depend on who's on the trade block, what drops into our laps with FA, and what Gerald Wallace decides to do. If a Pau Gasol became available for AMMO and our top pick @ #8, I'd consider it.

[Jonathanmartin7]

What position do you think we need more? SG or C or should be just take the best available?

[Slam]

What position do you think we need more? SG or C or should be just take the best available?

Tough call because it depends on who the players are.

I really think we need to get EO50 some help but if the choices are Thabeet or Marcus Williams, I go Marcus Williams.

If the choices are Jianlian or Brandon Rush, I go Jianlian

Know what I mean?

[ziggy]

What position do you think we need more? SG or C or should be just take the best available?

Tough call because it depends on who the players are.

I really think we need to get EO50 some help but if the choices are Thabeet or Marcus Williams, I go Marcus Williams.

If the choices are Jianlian or Brandon Rush, I go Jianlian

Know what I mean?

How do you guys feel about Roy Hibbert out of Georgetown? Hes impressed me a lot more than Thabeet has from the little that I've seen of both players this season.

[dvdbumpus]

What position do you think we need more? SG or C or should be just take the best available?

Tough call because it depends on who the players are.

I really think we need to get EO50 some help but if the choices are Thabeet or Marcus Williams, I go Marcus Williams.

If the choices are Jianlian or Brandon Rush, I go Jianlian

Know what I mean?

How do you guys feel about Roy Hibbert out of Georgetown? Hes impressed me a lot more than Thabeet has from the little that I've seen of both players this season.


I would definitely not be opposed to him at all. I think a lot of the reason why Hibbert has impressed more is because he's a junior on a more experienced team. Thabeet, however, is 18, a freshman, on a team that starts 3 freshman and 2 sophmores.

I would not be opposed to either. Thabeet is better on defense, while HIbbert is a better post scorer. Thabeet has a LOAD more athleticism, quickness, and has a higher ceiling.

So it's either a more seasoned guy with better offense and decent defense, or a potential Dikembe Mutumbo who's in his first year out of high school.

I'll take THabeet based on Okafor's success at Uconn from being a raw player to a low post stud. He's a bigger risk, but more reward.

Hibbert = Zydrunas Illgauskas with the soft hands, size, scoring ability and decent defense.
Thabeet = Mutumbo = shot blocker, raw, scoring potential.

I'll lean towards defense because defense wins championships!

P.S. Just give me either and I'll be pleased :biggrin:

[CaptainCrunch]

Hibbert is a baller but I agree with 123 Horford would also be a great pickup

[Knightz]

The Bobcats most pressing need is a Shooting Guard or Centre.

Bring Lewis in and the Small Forward position is settled.

Voshkul(sp?) is a bum, Emeka is a PF, Sean May spends half of his day at McDonalds and that's really all there big men.

[Slam]

Bring Lewis in and the Small Forward position is settled.

What do you call Crash and Ammo?

[dav7z]

You resign Crash for 10 mil a year and for get about Lewis for a 100 mil . We still got to resign Okafor , Get the best big we can in the draft and all so get the best s/g we can in the draft .OR trade both picks to get Derant.

[rallydurham]

No way anyone would take both our picks for Durant.

I doubt we could offer our next three first rounders honestly. ('07, '09, '11 since you cant trade consecutive picks)

Thats how sought after Oden/Durant are

[Bobcat Heart]

i think we defenitly need to take a big man like Greg Oden. But since we wont get him i feel that Roy Hibbert would be the next best choice. I mean we just arent getting it done on the inside. Sure with okafor we got some power. its just primoz isnt the type of caliber player we need to get better. We dont need durrant with okafor and g force. And morrison will come through. All thats left in center, and with roy hibbert displaying that he is just as good or better in the final 4 game today, i think roy could be a huge differnce maker.

Also he is way better than Thabeet. I mean UCONN is my favorite team and i would love to see another huskie on the bobcats, but thabeet hasnt had the experiance that hibbert has. Look at how well uconn did compared to geogretown. Roy is used to winning and knows how to do it, against other high caliber players in presuure situations

[tamburello]

i think we defenitly need to take a big man like Greg Oden. But since we wont get him i feel that Roy Hibbert would be the next best choice. I mean we just arent getting it done on the inside. Sure with okafor we got some power. its just primoz isnt the type of caliber player we need to get better. We dont need durrant with okafor and g force. And morrison will come through. All thats left in center, and with roy hibbert displaying that he is just as good or better in the final 4 game today, i think roy could be a huge differnce maker.

Also he is way better than Thabeet. I mean UCONN is my favorite team and i would love to see another huskie on the bobcats, but thabeet hasnt had the experiance that hibbert has. Look at how well uconn did compared to geogretown. Roy is used to winning and knows how to do it, against other high caliber players in presuure situations

Man, I agree with you roughly. Hibbert seems like he'll heal all our pains, if we wouldn't get Oden. But what if we get 2nd pick and Oden is selected with 1st? It looks extremely difficult to pass on Durant. If we pass him it'd remind me 1984 draft: 1. Olajuwon, 2. Bowie, 3. Jordan. 2007 draft: 1. Oden, 2. Hibbert, 3. Durant.

Hope Hibbert won't be a Bowie.

[ziggy]

Hibbert to Cats, Welcome to bobcatsPlanet!!!
After Oden and Durant, Roy Hibbert is at the top of my list. I liked what I saw in his matchup with Oden and I think that he would fit in great with the Bobcats.
I also agree with you on Thabeet, Hes way too raw to invest a first round pick on.

[dvdbumpus]

i think we defenitly need to take a big man like Greg Oden. But since we wont get him i feel that Roy Hibbert would be the next best choice. I mean we just arent getting it done on the inside. Sure with okafor we got some power. its just primoz isnt the type of caliber player we need to get better. We dont need durrant with okafor and g force. And morrison will come through. All thats left in center, and with roy hibbert displaying that he is just as good or better in the final 4 game today, i think roy could be a huge differnce maker.

Also he is way better than Thabeet. I mean UCONN is my favorite team and i would love to see another huskie on the bobcats, but thabeet hasnt had the experiance that hibbert has. Look at how well uconn did compared to geogretown. Roy is used to winning and knows how to do it, against other high caliber players in presuure situations



Welcome to the board! At least someone else is a big fan of Uconn, instead of all you UNC'ers :P. If we get #2, we have GOT to take Durant. If we don't look into Mr. Hibbert for sure. He'll be a stud.

[dav7z]

Bumpus i like Hibbert too but i think hes gome at the five pick . Who do we pick then . Thabeet and Hayes either one is a gamble its no other bigs i feel good about except big baby.

[Dead_Real]

With Brandon Wright all but confirmed NBAdraft.net has Hibbert sliding to us at 8 that would be a ideal situation with Durant and Oden more than likely being out of reach. With the second round pick I hope we pick up a SG/PG I wouldn't mind picking up Law or Marcus Williams.

[DaFlameking]

o god. what is wrong the bobcats coaching staff. it seems like every year they are in love with forwards. according to the bobcats website, it looks like they're very interested in joakim noah. WHY WHY WHY?! i hope to god they dont draft him. on top of that on the poll, they are asking for suggestions, all of them are small forwards and power forwards.

I understand filling a backup spot for sean may's random injuries to sub for okafor is necessary but go to the spot that we needed to fill 3 years ago. SG!! Shooting Guard. We needed one for 2 years now to have a decent lineup and they're still looking for Power Fowards and Small Forwards. SF is pretty much set. Gerald Wallace (keeps the team together) and Adam Morrison (you drafted him, he's an awesome shooter) and Matt Carroll to side in and rotate a couple (awesome 6th man). I know Matt Carroll plays both SG and SF but he does better like Jerry Stackhouse coming off the bench.

Although it would be nice to get Yi and have him replace Primoz (primoz let us down after the first year (he did well that year) but now he's mediocre) we need scorers. With 2 first round picks in this years' draft, I truly hope the bobcats make the right choice this year.

I remember our 1st year we had like 5 point guards, 2nd year we had 5 power forwards, 3rd year alot of small forwards (4 i think) dont ruin it again bobcats

[Defense]

I can see your point on that one, and I am defanitely 400% against drafting Noah bc he is basically Anderson Verajao v.2 (sp?). Now if Yi were to fall to us, I think we have to take him, he would be a perfect fit to go next to Meka on the front court and would give us a bonafide low post threat and a big that can also step out and knock down the jumper. He, Horford, and Wright, are the 3 bigs (outside Oden) that I would take if they fell to us. I would take them simply bc Big men are more important than guards and this draft will also have a lot of good shooting guards available at 22, guys like possibly Thad Young, Nick young, Jarvis Crittenton, Stuckey, Bellinelli, Marcus Williams, etc... there are plenty of very good scoring guards that have the possibility of being available at 22.

There are about 30 players supposed to go in the top 20... you do the math.

[ExplosionsInTheSky]

This is just my take on who the Bobcats should draft if they end up keeping their two first round picks. If they still want to become a crazy offensive team like they have been talking about recently, they should use their #8 for Hawes and #22 for the best shooting guard available.

With a line-up:

Hawes
Okafor
Wallace
Felton
N. Young / Fernandez / Affalo / etc...

...the Bobcats could be up with the Suns in the highest points per game average especially if the picks follow though and Felton & Morrison improve their FG%. Though I don't know about the defense.

And if they want to pursue being a crazy defensive team I think the should go after Corey Brewer with the #8 and Sean Williams with the #22.

With a line-up:

Williams
Okafor
Wallace
Felton
Brewer

....whose going to score on us with 3 big time shot-blockers on the inside and Corey Brewer on the perimeter? But then again I don't know about the offense.

So in my opinion I think they should, if they do not end up trading their two first round picks, go after a great PF with the #8 such as Brandon Wright and use the #22 for the best SG available.

And the 2007/08 starting line-up:

Okafor
Wright
Wallace
Felton
N. Young / Fernandez / Affalo / etc...

I would be happy with any of those line-ups really. I just hope that the Bobcats will not draft a SF or a PG that wouldn't be able to play PF or SG, even if it's the BPA.

[Dead_Real]

Look at the most recent updating mock on NBAdraft.net has us taking B.Wright at 8 and Cook at 22.

[King Taharqa]

Id like to see us take..
http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_photos/2006/12/23/gators.jpg




*Image fixed :biggrin:

[Dead_Real]

^^^
Glad you showed up King :D and yea I'd be happy as hell with Corey.

[Mustachio]

yeah man, where is the old guard this week...

no word from guys like King in a while... what about Big Slam, and some others.

this is prime time.

[Mustachio]

PS. ive just now started drinking in preperation for the draft tonight... that way if we come out awesome i can just continue the party... but if we screw it up... i can just drink myself to sleep.

[ammofan]

lol mustachio

[Dead_Real]

I wouldn't mind taking a chance on Sean Williams at 22.

No drinking yet but if Noah is taken... :g:

[DaFlameking]

watching at the moment and greg oden got picked number 1. pray that someone picks noah up before we get to him or we pass him up

[tray]

For crying out loud, I was hoping that Noah wuld be gone by now!!! If the Bobcats are going to pick an inside player, they better PICK BRANDAN WRIGHT OVER NOAH!!!

Man, I'm terrified!

[tray]

This board does not work for me. None of the icons are showing up. I just see boxes with question marks in them.

PLEASE GOD!!! NOT NOAH!!!

[tray]

If these bastards pick Noah, I'm changing the television!!!

[tray]

Bingo!!! Bingo!!! Jordan, you done good!

[dvdbumpus]

Thank god it's not Noah

[tray]

Thank god it's not Noah



I agree. Love the avatar.

[Dead_Real]

Agreed Bumpus best player available dude has to put on weight though.

[ammofan]

I was at the arena. They showed the official "draft central" in the locker room. (Jordan, Bickerstaff, Higgins, etc....) They did not stand and applaud after pick or anything. The Blazers cheered and put hats on, etc.
We did nothing! B.W. will probably be trade bait.

[tray]

I was at the arena. They showed the official "draft central" in the locker room. (Jordan, Bickerstaff, Higgins, etc....) They did not stand and applaud after pick or anything. The Blazers cheered and put hats on, etc.
We did nothing! B.W. will probably be trade bait.


Well, as an "ammofan," you clearly are a poor judge of talent. How many other people stood up and applauded after the first 2 picks? It's just business as usual.

[tray]

Wizards make me sick. Wow, Nick Young's girlfriend or sister, whatever she is, has the body of a goddess.

[tray]

Jared Dudley??? Are the Bobcats planning on getting a "TRUE SHOOTING GUARD" in free agency, because they still need one.

[Wallace15]

What the hell was that? Why would we draft Dudley. We needed a SG and didn't get one.
Damnit, Dudley pisses me off. Always hated him. :mad:

[Muttley]

Agreed. This draft is starting to disappoint me, but it could have been worse. (Read: Noah)
However, something amazing could still happen.

[DaFlameking]

we need to acquire a SG bad. we have all the other spots good but SG then Center and then we're set. either get free agents or trade picks

[Dead_Real]

I hear a trade could still be on the table with GS I'm guessing Wright for Ellis.

[DaFlameking]

OMFG. the trade was proposed!!!!

Jason Richardson for Brandan Wright.

SG problems could be solved or no?

[DaFlameking]

anyway we could have a chatroom made for us bobcat fans? irc? msn? or aim chat room?

[DaFlameking]

the deal is done. im not sure if the bobcats thought it over but we got J Rich

[Alex]

the deal is done. im not sure if the bobcats thought it over but we got J Rich


what is there to think over?

[Dead_Real]

Thoughts on the Jermareo Davidson pick up reading his NBAdraft.net profile he seems like a very good pick up no doubt a project similar to what Wright would have been for us.

http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/jermareodavidson.html

[Mustachio]

everybody is freakin out about Wright needs to read that article.

homeboy is taller, same attributes and didnt play on the UNC team that was pretty damn solid at every position. Freeing up Wright to do some things. it was a great move the more i think about it man...

Brandon Wright = the next Starvin Marvin Williams