Ray and Adam's FG%

[ziggy]

Adam has shown some improvement in his shooting over the last three games, but its a year and a half into his career for Ray and his FG% has actually dropped below Adam's.

Adam 38.3%
Ray 38.2%

I think that in time, Adam will shoot the ball more consistently, Hes just had long stretches where hes had a horrible case of Rookie-itis. But what do you think it'll take for Ray to start shooting the ball better? Hes been playing his natural position for the last 2 months, so we can't say that its because hes playing at SG...
I'm a Ray fan, but damn! He has to find a way to knock down shots at a better clip than 38.2%

Whats it going to take for him to do it?
Thoughts.

[Slam]

The good news is that the shots that Felts are missing are ones that he should be able to make in his sleep (like easy lay ups).

He has 6 gears and try's to play in 6th way too much. If he could just learn control and poise playing between 4th-6th gears then he'll start making shots and stop jacking up circus shots.

[123together]

i think with better shot selection felton's % will go up. he misses a lot of layups, and floaters in the lane, shots that he definitely can make, but just isn't at this part in his career. hopefully they'll both be shooting above 44% next season

[iMakeItRain]

morrison is a baller no doubt

[CaptainCrunch]

aweswome aviator iMakeItRain

[dvdbumpus]

Jason Kidd's first three years his fg% was worse that Felton's on average spanning: 38.5, 38.1, and 37%: He has better rebounding but similar stats everywhere else .

Baron Davis, the player most commonly Ray is compared to, in his 5th, 6th AND 7th years had fg % of: 39.5, 38.3, and 38.9.

Jason Williams in his first 2 years averaged roughly 37%, and has improved to roughly 42%.

BAsically, Raymond will improve with time. I think once he gets a season of PG and only PG, it will help dramatically.

He just needs to learn the position more and make smarter decisions, which with time will come.

[sc0Nes]

honestly i think raymond overestimates his abilities at times...how could you blame him? he was nat'l player of the year in high school, won a title at UNC, drafted #5 in NBA draft...of course he has a very high opinion of himself. but someone has to tell him when he is taking shots that he shouldn't take *COUGH*BICKERSTAFF*COUGH*

chris paul was amazing his rookie year. deron williams is amazing this year. maybe next year ray makes the jump and raises his fg% significantly higher. i hope.

[dvdbumpus]

I've noticed that Felton tries to do too much. When we're behind, he tries to take over the game and attempts too many desperation shots t try and get back in, and that hurts it as well.

[rallydurham]

Hey guys, new to the forum and I dont get to watch that many games live so i try to keep up the best i can through the blogs here.

i think Felton's FG% will right itself by the 4th season, here are some reasons to be encouraged:

1) Felton couldn't shoot straight his freshman season at UNC and by his Sophomore season he had a nice jumper. Demonstrates the ability to improve.

2) PG's often take a little while to adjust to the NBA 3-pt line as the greater distance affects shorter players more than taller ones...

3) In HS and college he used his freakish athleticism to get to the rim and convert layups. He's having to adapt to the shot blocking presences in the NBA that are absent in the college game (any big man worth a crap goes straight to the league). He will learn to use his body and angles to overcome his height disadvantage to get his shot off better

4) Still adapting to the PG position. He's only started ~40-50 games at PG right? It took Deron Williams a full season to become productive in Utah.


With the recent hand checking rule changes speed/quickness is more valuable than ever at the PG position. We can sign shooters, let's just let Felton penetrate, dish, and get the ball down the court... Remember it took Steve Nash ~10 seasons of inconsistent play before he became the two-time league MVP.

[dav7z]

., Not takeing up for Ramond he does shoot some wild shots . But i think the biggest reason his shooting is so bad is because the shoots he has to take. a lot of his shoots come with only 2 or 3 seconds left on the shot clock . It seems the ball all ways gets kicked back to him if its not a play or the clock is running out. Time will cure that as players get more confidence no one wants to take that bad shoot. Where as Felton lives for it . not saying thats all ways good .
Once hes in the league another year or two. Hes going to get that cp3 call , That will make his percentage go way up in addition to that hes going to ave over 20pts a game just from the in cress in free throughs.
His shot is not that bad and people will see in time he can play. If they havent seen it yet. Hes does all the little things you dont see. Hes a winner and id i would take him shooting 25 percent as long as he getting us the win.

[Mustachio]

i do agree with dav that a lot of times hes shootin quick jumpers from distance to avoid a shot clock violation. but the layups he misses are not a problem i dont think... he occassionaly misses a wild yet atheletic lay up...

but the random 3 pointers he takes when theres time on the clock and people open thats when it kills me and his fg %.... McInnis needs to tell him that a 15 footer aint always bad

[ziggy]

Hey guys, new to the forum and I dont get to watch that many games live so i try to keep up the best i can through the blogs here.

i think Felton's FG% will right itself by the 4th season, here are some reasons to be encouraged:

1) Felton couldn't shoot straight his freshman season at UNC and by his Sophomore season he had a nice jumper. Demonstrates the ability to improve.

RallyDurham,
Welcome to BobcatsPlanet!

You made several valid points on reasons for Ray's subpar shooting. The one that gives me the most encouragement is #1, he showed siginificant improvement shooting the ball following his freshman season at UNC. He has the work ethic to put in the necessary time to become a better shooter.
He just has to do it.

[dav7z]

Mustachio what is it he has to show us three of them a game.
Its all most like it kills him if he dont . LOL

[rallydurham]

Another good point above...

We don't really have anyone who can create their own shot besides Felton. He gets the ball stuck in his hands a lot with the shot clock winding down so it's only natural that his shooting % will be a little lower than it otherwise would be.

Once we get a true wing scorer (either SG or SF) or a go-to big man in the post his percentage should rectify itself a bit..

[ziggy]

At SG or SF we'll either have to draft that guy, sign via free agency or Adam will have to develop into him.

But I believe we have the go-to big man already (Emeka). In my opinion he should be getting at least 15 shots per game at a minimum. He's currently shooting 54.2% and not all of it is putbacks and dunks.

[dav7z]

Felton is getting Okafor more toches the past 15 games or so and he is producing. But he still needs to shoot more with his field goal percentage. But you can tell real quick Okafor is not going to force nothing. He would rather kick it back out to Felton and reset . Some times its just not enough time for that and we would be better off with Okafor taking the shot.
But you can see chemristry starting to grow in that starting five. Its kinda like dont mess with it just give it time to grow toghter.

[Slam]

Wow - I don't agree with a lot of what you guy's are saying at all.

Most games if I had to make the choice between Felts shooting the 3 ball or trying his lay up circus shots I think I would take his 3pt shot. At least he looks like he's half a chance to make that. A lot of time lately his lay ups don't look close to going in.

And he's not jacking up long J's with the clock running down. The shots that he is taking and missing are well within the 24 and are more of a result of him just not being able to finish at the rim.

You can't compare Paul and Williams to Felts. They are on a different level to him right now.

You need to be comparing Felts to TJ Ford and Luke Ridnour to keep things in prespective.

At the end of the day, he has all the tools to be a top grade PG in the league - it's just a matter of him learning some poise and adjusting the speed that he plays at a little.

Oh, and I agree. A SG who can handle the rock and is a solid passer would help out a whole lot.

If only we had drafted Roy, maybe it would have helped Felts, Crash and EO50??

[sc0Nes]

i think drafting brandon roy could have helped us out a little...but he has been hurt, and he and ammo are both still rookies, so right now it's hard to tell.

and when i mention deron williams and chris paul, i'm thinking of the amount of time it took for them to make the leap and start producing at all-star level (paul 1 year, williams 2 years felton 3 years?)

is it possible that ray has a mechanics problem? after paying special attention to his jumper tonight it looks kinda...funky.

[Dead_Real]

A lot of times it looks like Ray tries to lay it up with his left hand instead of going up strong with the right.

[Slam]

is it possible that ray has a mechanics problem? after paying special attention to his jumper tonight it looks kinda...funky.

I would say with his lay ups 100% yes - which as a direct result he jacks up so many circus shots.