Jermaine O'neal anyone?

[Dillehay]

Hello Bobcat fans,
The trade deadline has passed and the Pacers are a very boring team these days, so i need to come up with ideas to keep my basketball cravings satisfied. So, word is that J.O. will demand a trade this summer. How would some of you Bobcat fans feel about landing him? If interested, can you come up with some trade ideas? Do any of you know off of the top of your head that if both teams need to be under the cap or just one to keep from having make the salaries match up?
Thanks,
Erik

[ziggy]

Erik, Welcome to BobcatsPlanet :biggrin:

I'm not sure of what we could put together for Jermaine O'Neal, but would you be willin to trade Danny Granger for an overweight, undersized, often injured PF with bad knees... I guess not?
We're still beating ourseves over the head for not taking Granger or Gerald Green instead of Sean May :-\

[Dillehay]

thanks for the welcome! i thought that is was a good idea to draft the north carolina guys, i wouldn't get too down about it. i actually like your young team.

[Slam]

Don't like Jermiane, his attitude, his salary or his history of injuries.

I'd pass (unless you were giving him away for scraps - which you wouldn't)

[Dillehay]

i was actually hoping may would fall down to us (some experts had us picking him at 17), i was also wanting warrick. i didn't know much zbout granger. at least something positive has happened the last couple of years.

[CaptainCrunch]

I would like to have a local baller on the bobcats squad (jermaine is from columbia, sc eau claire high school) plus he is a great player and would defenitly give us a superstar on this team along with oaknasty and g-force

[Dillehay]

him being from SC is why i posted the idea here. he want's to go to a championship contender, but i could see him wanting to play for you guys. i have seen articles of how he is highly involved with the community in his hometown.

[dvdbumpus]

I would definitely consider it. I think if he came here without a ton of headcases on the team he would work in well. Hell, we'd have the most dominant frontcourt around next to anybody but the suns or mavs. Of course, I guess many teams that added J.O. could say the same thing.

Sure, I would love to add him, as long as May got traded off in the package.

Would he come over here? Maybe, but I sure as hell know he won't decline his $19 mil option. Second thing is, would Charlotte spend money on him? Possibly, because he is one of our 2 biggest needs; only thing is we'd have to give up too much to get him. He is the Pacers franchise player and all so scraps certainly wouldn't do.

Brevin, AMMO, May and one of our 2 first rounders for O'Neal

O'neal = 19.7 million While Knight, AMMO, May, and the first rounder will roughly = $14 million. They get a quality point to replace/insurance for Tinsley, get the scorer they lack after Stephen Jackson left, May has potential to play decent/be released after next year, and the draft pick in this years draft is a highly prized treat.

Think this deal could be made?

On another note. I know it's heresy to think it, but if we traded Felton in this deal to get a good player back (Murphy, Diogu, etc) along with a pick, then we in turn signed Mo Williams to run the point? He's played with Crash so he should be able to give some insight. He's also only 24 and put it together, so what might people think, if this was the difference maker in getting J.O. and someone else? (barring we get williams and crash resigns)

[sc0Nes]

don't want him. definitely one of the most overrated players in the game. offensively challenged version of emeka okafor. bad attitude. in his prime right now, only going to go downhill from here.

[dvdbumpus]

If not O'Neal, what would the price of either Mehmet Okur or Carlos Boozer run?
on 2nd thought, why don't we just sign Anderson Varajao? Beast on the boards and doesn't need the ball. Put him at center and the lanes are officially clogged.

[Mustachio]

id consider it

but for sean may, brevin knight, and adam morrison AND a high second round pick.

That is isane. two lottery picks a solid to great back up point guard and a high second.

nah ill pass

[dvdbumpus]

id consider it

but for sean may, brevin knight, and adam morrison AND a high second round pick.

That is isane. two lottery picks a solid to great back up point guard and a high second.

nah ill pass


I realize that things would have to be reworked. But that'd be a starting point.

[Dillehay]

don't want him. definitely one of the most overrated players in the game. offensively challenged version of emeka okafor. bad attitude. in his prime right now, only going to go downhill from here.
i wouldn't call 20/10 guy "offensivley challeneged". i respect (not share) your opinion on the attitude thing, he gives the refs alot dirty looks during games. other than that he is a hard worker, you might see some negativity during a press conferance after a game, but i'd be frustrated right now myself. how many more years can he keep it up? i don't know but he only has 2 more on his contract after this year.

[dav7z]

To me he plays a lot like Okafor right now . Okafor still has a lot of up siide left to get better where as oneals carer is starting to decline just starting. I guess im saying hes reached his peak. If his price wasent so high i wouldnt mind seeing those two playing toghter. By the way welcome to the board.

[rallydurham]

Jermaine does average 20ppg but his shooting % is always in the mid 40s

btw, a good player (like murphy, diogu)


DOES NOT COMPUTE

those guys suck

and Murphy makes bank

[Dillehay]

Jermaine does average 20ppg but his shooting % is always in the mid 40s

btw, a good player (like murphy, diogu)


DOES NOT COMPUTE

those guys suck

and Murphy makes bank
think that's a bad percentage? alot of good F/C in the league shoot in the 45-55% range. JO, KG, T-Mac, Howard, Gasol, Okafor(just to name a few).

[dav7z]

To me he play s a lot like Okafor . Thats not a bad thing . For what he would cost we just dont have any thing for them but Okafor or Wallace Them two is our core and i couldnt trade either one for Oneal.

[rallydurham]

45-55% range


Um thats like saying a lot of Americans make between $20,000 and $8 million dollars a year.

There is a huge disparity between 45% and 55% for a post player that doesn't shoot threes. In fact O'neal is shooting 45% this year which is pretty brutal at 16 FGA. He's an awesome shot blocking threat but he's more of a PF than a C. Also he makes a shitload of money and is the ONLY commodity on Indiana (Granger is soemwhat valuable) so they aren't gonna jettison him for free.

O'Neal is a good player but he's got re-occuring shoulder problems, makes $$$, will probably not age well, and plays the same position as our best player.

This deal isn't happening.

[dvdbumpus]

45-55% range

This deal isn't happening.


You are correct. I'd like someone of his caliber but not for the price, albeit players or cash.

[Dillehay]

yeah, i agree with you on the whole issue of bringing out stats(that was a pretty cool analogy, rallydurham). i don't normally like to bring up stats because i give up on/lose arguments pretty easily. but, one thing that i know is that noone, who wathches basketball, can say that Jermaine O'neal.....is "offensively challenged".