View Full Version : Paul Silas wants the Bobcat job.
dvdbumpus
03-23-2007, 03:01 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Silas-wants-Charlotte-job;_ylt=Airp9CzowxUuP17bB5g5RrLhKrcF?urn=nba,2718 6
I know Ziggy is hooray on this one, but what do you guys think?
From what I'm reading, other than his 3 years of coaching the Clippers back in 80-83, he's got a winning record, and that's all I can ask for.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/silaspa01c.html
tamburello
03-23-2007, 07:21 AM
If Jordan won't try to create our own Avery Johnson or Larry Krystkowiak, Silas looks like the best option.
Mustachio
03-23-2007, 08:46 AM
bring him on
Mustachio
03-23-2007, 08:59 AM
the reason i say bring him on. if he is out actively pursuing it and says he would love to be interviewed... then he obviously believes in the team and its young players and might just have a great winning plan in mind to get the wins we need.
in my opinion... this is a great opportunity for anyone out there inthe coaching world to jump on. Young core of players with a high draft pick in this years draft. Michael Jordan is the GM and becoming the business face of the team, you have a budding superstar in Gerald Wallace. theres a lot to like about this team no matter what some would say.
Paul Silas will at least get the team behind him, teams that play for him always dig em and the fans in charlotte loved him in the first go round. Maybe not the sharpest newest mind in basketball, but i think he could a lot out of this team. Not the worst we could do thats for sure.
123together
03-23-2007, 10:16 AM
he was a great coach with the hornets and got them within a game of the eastern conference finals. in cleveland he was solid. in fact i saw him when i was running over the past year. i think silas would be a great fit if there is not anyone younger
dav7z
03-23-2007, 10:52 AM
If you cant have a winning record with Salis . Then you know its the talent not the coach. I think he would make a great fit.
CaptainCrunch
03-23-2007, 11:47 AM
I think Silas would be a great fit for the 'cats and I believe the city of Charlotte will embrace him with open arms.
ziggy
03-23-2007, 01:21 PM
I'm a Paul Silas fan and would like to see him get the job (If we can't snag Iavaroni).
Silas has quite a few detractors though, Those of you who don't like Silas ( I know Big Slam is one ;) ) Lets hear why you don't want him.
I didn't follow the Hornets and have no idea about Silas or his abilities so I am impartial when it comes to him because I can't have an informed opinion of him.
ziggy
03-23-2007, 04:58 PM
I didn't follow the Hornets and have no idea about Silas or his abilities so I am impartial when it comes to him because I can't have an informed opinion of him.
Oh, I thought you were an anti-Silas guy. I must have had you mixed up with somebody else.
fatlever
03-24-2007, 01:26 PM
i am still shocked at how many people like paul silas. i don't know how much of it is just because people are comfortable with silas due to his hornets days, because they don't know enough about other viable options or because they truely believe silas is a great coach.
i just don't get it. not a fan. not a fan at all.
silas is very similar to bernie in may facets of coaching and most people on this board loathe bernie. why would you want another bernie? silas, like bernie, is an awful x's and o's coach. silas, like bernie, was terrible in end game situations, never using offensive and defensive subs (remember how many times we had stacy augmon on the floor with 2 minutes left, even on offense?). silas, like bernie, had a pathetic assistant coaching staff w/ with included a son. silas had trust issues and never wanted an high profile assistant that might challenge him. its one of the reasons the hornets fired him after they moved to new orleans.
some other negative silas traits...
he holds grudges against players (i remember hearing steve martin on the radio one day, right after silas was fired by cleveland, talking about how silas would hold grudges against players and his assistant coaches). steve did not have high praise for silas.
silas was too insistent on playing veterans over developing younger players (augmon, george lynch, eric snow, eric williams, ira newble etc...)
do you guys remember listening to silas last year on espn? was he inspiring? was he interesting? did he amaze you with his bball iq? i'm gonna say no.
silas does have his positives... he is great with big men, he is a players coach (not always a good thing with a young team), he's a straight shooter, and he preaches defense, but i just dont think he is the best candidate for our head coaching job.
Keetch
03-24-2007, 01:27 PM
I'll throw an opinion out: Players seem to like to play for Silas, that's good. Silas has a feel for talent and positions, he'll give us good rotations, unlike some others we know.
Silas is a lousy tactition. Expect his teams to be lost in crunch situations. At times it seemed the Silas Hornets couldn't even execute an in-bounds pass. I found that frustrating about him, and it seemed to be confirmed by commnets I heard coming out of Cleveland when he was there.
That's all, he's a good guy, we could certainly do worse.
Edit: heh I typed mine while the prior post was being sent. I agree with the comments well stated above. :P
Fats and Keetch -
Would you have him as a head assistant?
ziggy
03-24-2007, 03:57 PM
fatlever,
Welcome to the board! I respect your opinion on Silas, I'm an advocate for Iavaroni, but I wouldn't be unhappy at all if Silas got the coaching job. Although he isn't hailed as an X & O guru, his teams always seemed to play above their talent level.
Who would be your first choice as coach and why?
Fats is going to say Alex English!!
;)
dvdbumpus
03-24-2007, 07:27 PM
Once again, I point to this topic:
http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/joomla/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,70/topic,4180.0
P.S. Poll added!
ziggy
03-24-2007, 11:12 PM
Fats is going to say Alex English!!
;)
Alex English ?
Fats is going to say Alex English!!
;)
Alex English ?
Ya. Both Fats and I have had a thing for English as a potential head coach for some time.
Plus, Fats is an old skool type of dude so English fits his mold.
rallydurham
03-25-2007, 11:58 AM
I am among the many people who dislike Paul Silas as a coach.
He is a player's coach which can be a good thing because a lot of guys seem to like playing for him.
He is however, an awful strategist.
He flopped big time in Cleveland and his "success" in Charlotte wasn't particularly impressive given our talent level. I wouldn't say we overachieved by any means.
One single play really stands out in my mind as to why I hate Paul Silas.
In the 2nd round against the Milwaukee Bucks there was a game early in the series (1,2 or 3) where we trailed by 1-2 points with 26 seconds to go and the Bucks had the basketball. Obviously, we needed to foul.
Silas (who is clearly not a math major) told the team not to foul. The Bucks took a shot with the clock expiring and while trying to collect the rebound the buzzer sounded and the game was over.
There is absolutely NO excuse for such poor game management and I will never support a head coach who can't grasp the simple concept of fouling when you're behind and the clock is about to run out.
fatlever
03-25-2007, 12:01 PM
btw... ziggy, great site. i've been reading for a while.
as slam mentioned, i do have a love affair for alex english. iavaroni is probably my first choice followed by english and adelman. the bottom line is... i want a coach that will install more motion on offense. i had watching boring, predictable, iso/post up offenses. they only work if you have superstars to run the offense through. i prefer offenses that feature lots of screens, cuts, backdoors etc... right now, walter and wallace are the only players on our team that have a clue how to move without the ball and that's because both of them came from teams that featured movement and cuts (argentina and sacramento). i think a heavy motion type offense with lots of screening would really help guys like wallace and morrison as well as open things up for felton and okafor.
our defense will take care of itself as long as we have okafor and wallace. we need a coach with a clue about offense.
as for former hornets coaches... i'd take dave cowens over paul silas any day of the week. at least cowens had the balls to tell shinn to stuff it.
and as rallydurham and other smentioned silas is clueless about end game coaching. we was as bad as bernie or worse.
ziggy
03-25-2007, 02:09 PM
btw... ziggy, great site. i've been reading for a while.
Thank you sir! Glad to have you here. I don't think you have anything to worry about, Based on Jordan looking saying that hes looking for the next Avery Johnson, I don't think Silas is going to be the guy. I've googled around, but didn't find too much info on Alex English as a coach ( I remember that he was a hell of a player ). Is he an assistant somewhere now, or maybe a coach in the d-League?
Bobcat4Ever
03-25-2007, 04:06 PM
Silas is the perfect fit for the Bobcats.
fatlever
03-25-2007, 06:01 PM
alex english was a head coach in the d-league for one year with the low gators (they won the title). then he was an assistant with altanta and now he is an assistant with toronto.
reasons why i think english would be a good coach
1. he played with my idol fat and on my fav team the 80's nuggets
2. he played under doug moe, the king of the motion offense, so i can only assume he knows a thing or two about motion.
3. if you've ever seen an interview with english, one thing is obvious... the dude is very smart.
4. he was in a great movie called "amazing grace and chuck", which was about the cold war.
5. he has local ties... went to college at south carolina.
dvdbumpus
03-25-2007, 07:34 PM
alex english was a head coach in the d-league for one year with the low gators (they won the title). then he was an assistant with altanta and now he is an assistant with toronto.
reasons why i think english would be a good coach
1. he played with my idol fat and on my fav team the 80's nuggets
2. he played under doug moe, the king of the motion offense, so i can only assume he knows a thing or two about motion.
3. if you've ever seen an interview with english, one thing is obvious... the dude is very smart.
4. he was in a great movie called "amazing grace and chuck", which was about the cold war.
5. he has local ties... went to college at south carolina.
Other than 2 and 3, they don't have anything to do with him being a probable good coach. Jordan wants somebody who can be googled and recognized, at least.
fatlever
03-25-2007, 09:23 PM
alex english was a head coach in the d-league for one year with the low gators (they won the title). then he was an assistant with altanta and now he is an assistant with toronto.
reasons why i think english would be a good coach
1. he played with my idol fat and on my fav team the 80's nuggets
2. he played under doug moe, the king of the motion offense, so i can only assume he knows a thing or two about motion.
3. if you've ever seen an interview with english, one thing is obvious... the dude is very smart.
4. he was in a great movie called "amazing grace and chuck", which was about the cold war.
5. he has local ties... went to college at south carolina.
Other than 2 and 3, they don't have anything to do with him being a probable good coach. Jordan wants somebody who can be googled and recognized, at least.
geez... tough crowd. what, you didnt think #4 was a valid reason? did you see that movie? he saved the world from nuclear holocaust.... NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST! i doubt paul silas ever saved the world.
ziggy
03-25-2007, 09:54 PM
Ridding the world from Nuclear Holocaust....... Yep, that trumps coaching the Hornets during the Anthony Mason era :) .
FatLever, while googling for some funny pics from Amazing Grace & Chuck, I actually found some quality pics of Alex English, heres one that you might like.
http://www.scafricanamericanhistory.com/images/photos/honorees/0590.gif
dvdbumpus
03-25-2007, 11:43 PM
alex english was a head coach in the d-league for one year with the low gators (they won the title). then he was an assistant with altanta and now he is an assistant with toronto.
reasons why i think english would be a good coach
1. he played with my idol fat and on my fav team the 80's nuggets
2. he played under doug moe, the king of the motion offense, so i can only assume he knows a thing or two about motion.
3. if you've ever seen an interview with english, one thing is obvious... the dude is very smart.
4. he was in a great movie called "amazing grace and chuck", which was about the cold war.
5. he has local ties... went to college at south carolina.
Other than 2 and 3, they don't have anything to do with him being a probable good coach. Jordan wants somebody who can be googled and recognized, at least.
geez... tough crowd. what, you didnt think #4 was a valid reason? did you see that movie? he saved the world from nuclear holocaust.... NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST! i doubt paul silas ever saved the world.
Haha you're right. SOrry man I was in a bad mood...all better now cuz i'm not at work :)
Nuclear war savior hmm? Well. He sure seems like the 2nd coming of Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris will introduce martial arts to Sean May and his knees will miraculously heal with his tears.
rallydurham
03-26-2007, 11:31 AM
I think we'd all rest a little easier if we stopped bumping this thread and never talked about Paul Silas again.
The thought of him at the helm makes my stomach turn.
Chuck Norris would be a great coach!!
I like his beard.
ziggy
03-26-2007, 07:17 PM
Chuck Norris would be a great coach!!
I like his beard.
Chuck Norris could turn Ray and Adam into 57% jump shooters.
Keetch
03-26-2007, 09:35 PM
ooh sweet the Paul Silas thread morph's (I see nothing...) into the secret Chuck Norris thread.... ::)
Chuck Norris would be a great NBA Coach...
A team coached by Chuck Norris would only get one bad call all year.
Chuck Norris would never get a technical foul called on him; well, maybe one.
I know Chuck Norris jokes are very yesterday, but heck its been awhile, why not?
and umm.. English and Iavaroni both sound like great choices to me, better than Adelman and the one who shall no longer be named.
dvdbumpus
03-26-2007, 11:28 PM
Chuck Norris would be a great coach!!
I like his beard.
Chuck Norris could turn Ray and Adam into 57% jump shooters.
Chuck Norris is the next zen master. Him and Phil Jackson look alike, don't they? I think they're father son :biggrin:
http://www.sportidag.no/bilder/norris-chuck-emb-100x126.jpg http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/basketball/nba/06/14/jackson/t1_jackson_si.jpg
WarioVsMooChicken
03-27-2007, 12:08 AM
I wouldn't mind Paul Silas
Bobcat4Ever
03-27-2007, 08:12 AM
I would hate to piss off Chuck Norris in practice. Roundhouse kick to the back of the head!!
ziggy
03-27-2007, 07:48 PM
If Chuck Norris were coach he would strike fear into the refs becuase its a known fact that:
When Bruce Banner gets mad, he turns into the Hulk. When the Hulk gets mad, he turns into Chuck Norris.
Fromage
03-27-2007, 11:10 PM
I'd be down with Silas - but my (long shot) top pick is still Adelman.
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