What players do you think the Bobcats will get rid of?

[WarioVsMooChicken]

The season is almost over. What players do you think the Bobcats will trade/release and what players do you think will be kept?

[dvdbumpus]

Primoz: Gone via trade in package deal
Othella: released/retire
Derek Anderson: Leaves
Brevin: released




Mcinnis will be resigned to be the primary backup to Felton.
Crash will be resigned
Carroll will be resigned
Herrmann will be resigned
Hollins' option will be picked up
Anderson will be resigned


So, I see us with 4 roster spots available. 2 will go with the draft(unless a trade happens) and then we'll have 2 FA's coming in (barring a trade).

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Primoz: Gone via trade in package deal
Othella: released/retire
Derek Anderson: Leaves
Brevin: released




Mcinnis will be resigned to be the primary backup to Felton.
Crash will be resigned
Carroll will be resigned
Herrmann will be resigned
Hollins' option will be picked up
Anderson will be resigned


So, I see us with 4 roster spots available. 2 will go with the draft(unless a trade happens) and then we'll have 2 FA's coming in (barring a trade).


Don't we get 3 draft pics? I thought we got Toronto's number 1 pic.

[dvdbumpus]

Don't we get 3 draft pics? I thought we got Toronto's number 1 pic.



We do, but the Lakers get our 2nd rounder via the Jumaine Jones trade. On that topic, would he be a viable option for a backup to come back? A cheap option for a player that rebounds and can shoot the 3.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Don't we get 3 draft pics? I thought we got Toronto's number 1 pic.



We do, but the Lakers get our 2nd rounder via the Jumaine Jones trade. On that topic, would he be a viable option for a backup to come back? A cheap option for a player that rebounds and can shoot the 3.


I don't know. He really hasn't done anything in Phoenix.

[tamburello]

Primoz will use his player option with 95% probability in my opinion. Better not bring him back.
We should get rid of Othella, but that's higly unlikely.
We may trade Brevin Knight, while he still has some trade value.
IMO, McInnis will certainly go away.
Maybe Alan Anderson wouldn't be guaranteed until the beginning of the season, but I'd like to see him again.

By the way, I agree with Bumpus, Jumaine Jones would be a valuable back-up for Bobcats. He was clearly efficient in his first stint with us.

[dav7z]

1. I think we get rid of B.K. if we can get any trade value take it , but thats 4 mil in salery
2. Primoz we need to get rid of some kind of way , Best way is tell him we dont want him and not going to play him . That will make him go to another team with no fucture in Charlotte.
3. Harringiton one is tricky . We give him a bad contract for us. He will get 2.2 mil next season no matter what. So Harrington stays unless we find someone to take him off our hands with caps being so tight its doubtful.
4.Derek Anderson. Vet mim or hes gone to.
5. Mcinnis gone , Team will take a undrafteed f/a or a young point to push Felton
6. Dont want to make people mad but the BOBCATS will test the market with MORRISON. Hoping to pick up a draft pick or a decent player
7 . May he will be tested two . To see what kind if any trade value he has
Keepers in my opinion
Harrmann. might be the best rookie to come out this year. I look to see bigger and better things from him . Might want to try and lock him up for about five years be for he demands a large contract.
Wallace . redo his contract.
Okafor. Same for him .
Carroll same
Felton another year or two to inprove
Jake cheap contract play it out a banger.
Hollins another year to see if hes a keeper another cheap price.
Anderson Looks a lot better with that time in the NDBL. keeper for a NBA MIN.

[ammofan]

I think that we will keep:

-Morrison
-Okafor
-Herrmann
-Carroll
-Jake
-Hollins
-A.Anderson
-Felton

I think that Wallace will want to sign with another team.........just my opinion

So this leaves us with this roster:

PG-Felton, (I think will will draft a PG with TOR pick)
SG-Carroll, A. Anderson ( maybe we sign a free agent SG, possibly VC ???)
SF-Morrison, Herrmann ( I think we are set here)
PF-Okafor ( we might keep May but I dought it because of his injuries, maybe we sign or draft another PF, maybe we draft Joakim Noah and put Okafor at Center?)
C- Hollins, Voskuhl ( crossing my finger that we get Oden!!!)

Go Cats!!!!!!

[123together]

let go of

=harrington
=primoz
=brevin/mcinnis

[dvdbumpus]

Don't we get 3 draft pics? I thought we got Toronto's number 1 pic.



We do, but the Lakers get our 2nd rounder via the Jumaine Jones trade. On that topic, would he be a viable option for a backup to come back? A cheap option for a player that rebounds and can shoot the 3.


I don't know. He really hasn't done anything in Phoenix.



His value will be low, and he's been under the tutelage of Marion. Only reason he hasn't played is because the team is deep and he doesn't fit the scheme too well.

[dvdbumpus]

With a supposed 4 roster spots available, I see use grabbing these:

1 Center: Whether it be Oden or Hibbert, or some big man, we will definitely be getting a Center to replace Primo as the starter or to backup Okafor.

2. Power Forward: If we grab Oden by some chance, we will grab a PF/C backup. If we do not, and need to have Okafor move to Center full time, we'll grab a marquee PF, like Jamison, or draft one like Horford.

3. Shooting Guard: We need someone of decent size, and will probably not be a combo guard. My guess is with this draft being so deep we grab Nick Young or Marcus Williams to start with Carroll as the safety valve.

4. This pick is a wild card. It could be a big man, a point, or a shooter. Hell, it could be anything. I figure this to be the best player available if it's the draft.

[kjk2241]

6. Dont want to make people mad but the BOBCATS will test the market with MORRISON. Hoping to pick up a draft pick or a decent player

There will be no market value on Ammo if we showed we were giving up after only one season. Also, I think that wouldnt be a smart move. Just give him time. Also, I want you to go back and watch all the videos of the games we won on nba.com
Ammo was not only a decent rookie, he played a very well. His main problem has been consistency. Give any player the ball with only 5 sec on the shot clock and look at their shooting percentage.
Just my opinion.

[dav7z]

Welcome to the board kjk2241
I to am a fan of Ammo. I just get the feeling Jordon is going to be active in the off season.
And i am just looking to see a lot of changes.........

[dvdbumpus]

yes, welcome!!

I agree, we gotta give Morrison some time but he's gotta show improvement too.

[CaptainCrunch]

cut harrington, primoz, and brevin

sign Melvin Ely

[dvdbumpus]

cut harrington, primoz, and brevin

sign Melvin Ely


not surprising that we do need someone with his low post offensive skills ::)


Shoulda traded Primoz Bernie!!

[dav7z]

cut harrington, primoz, and brevin

sign Melvin Ely
I agree with you to . But do you have a idea as to how to get Harrington to give up that 2,2 mil next year. He stays a BOBCAT unless we can.

[Mustachio]

yeah harrington will be here... unless some GM is desperate for a big man to take that ridiculous contract.

primoz and brevin... are as good as gone i hope.

[Fromage]

let go of

=harrington
=primoz
=brevin/mcinnis


yep.
PG: Felton > McCinnis
SG: Free Agent > Carroll
SF: Crash > Ammo
PF: Okafor > May
C: Draft Pick > La Garra

[cltblkhscoach]

I'd say keep Primoz around just because he's 7 feet and can play the pick and pop game, but definitely off the bench. You have to get rid of Harrington, he didn't do much and is probably almost done with the knee injury. McInnis was a nice midseason pick up but he's 34 and probably on his last legs. Brevin is a tough one, because he has a calming effect sometimes for Raymond, but you know he doesn't want to be a backup here, so he's probably gone in some capacity.

In the draft you need a big guy to pair with Emeka down low, of course Oden is #1 choice but Hibbert wouldn't be bad if we dont get lucky in the lottery. The second pick from Toronto could go to a point guard to push Raymond or a guy like Corey Brewer from Florida, who I would love on our second unit and insurance if they can't or choose not to resign Gerald.

[dvdbumpus]

I'd say keep Primoz around just because he's 7 feet and can play the pick and pop game, but definitely off the bench. You have to get rid of Harrington, he didn't do much and is probably almost done with the knee injury. McInnis was a nice midseason pick up but he's 34 and probably on his last legs. Brevin is a tough one, because he has a calming effect sometimes for Raymond, but you know he doesn't want to be a backup here, so he's probably gone in some capacity.

In the draft you need a big guy to pair with Emeka down low, of course Oden is #1 choice but Hibbert wouldn't be bad if we dont get lucky in the lottery. The second pick from Toronto could go to a point guard to push Raymond or a guy like Corey Brewer from Florida, who I would love on our second unit and insurance if they can't or choose not to resign Gerald.


I certainly hope that Mcinnis stays another year. He's 32(33 in October) so he's got a year or so left of real usefulness.

I would definitely like a ooint guard or Brewer on our team. Brewer will be gone before the Toronto pick, so he's basically out. As for a point guard, we do not have much of a choice in this draft.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Are there any reliable back up Point Guards that will be a free agent?

[dav7z]

Hate to say this but Harrington will be back next year. I dont see any one giving 2.2 mil for a washed up power foward.
Primoz As bad as hes played this year we may be stuck with him to. I hope not and i dont know what the player opt, is for him . But i hope some fool offers him a contract.
B.k is another one with a player option whitch i think is about 4 mil if thats true hes a BOBCAT another year . I dont think any one pays 4 mil for him.
Jeff is gone either way you look at it . No contract left and 33 years old . We will sign a f/a for that spot . some young player.
Just guessing with Harrington , Primoz, B.K staying because of contracts.
And we got 2 first round draft picks . Who dowe get rid of . Anderson Hollins who
Thoughts

[WarioVsMooChicken]

We should just get someone to pay Harrington 2 million to not play for us.

[tamburello]

Maybe we're underrating Brezec in a way. He is poor man's Ilgauskas. I certainly believe that if he opts out he can easily get a contract over $2.500.000. Maybe he's not a good defender but there're few big men out there with a reliable 15+ feet jump shot.

There's never ever a chance that some dumb would take Harrington's contract. If you remember his signing reason, that's just because of veteran presence etc. Nobody in this club expects him to be in the 12 man squad unless an injury occurs. And we can never get rid of him.

I'd like to see both Knight and McInnis going. But that is highly unlikely. I'm afraid that both would be staying. The best available PG in the market will be Chauncey Billups, but there is 0% probability of signing him with the Cats. The other big name is Mo Williams, but he wouldn't be settled as a back-up PG. Then Smush Parker, Steve Blake, Sarunas Jaskevicius(probably will go back to Europe), Chucky Atkins, Travis Diener etc. would be candidates.

[dvdbumpus]

I think we are underestimating Brezec as well. As much as we dislike him, at least he's cheap and a viable backup - his first year playing here he actually did decent and being on an option year he might be a contract year player(like Erik Dampier?)

Othella - Staying , but 2.2 isn't too much I suppose.

Brevin - Team Option :biggrin: not player option. I think he'll start somewhere else, because he's not total scum, I just hated the fact he started with Ray at the 2. Other than that, I never really had a problem with his game - other than when he was on the floor we weren't at our best.

Mcinnis - take him or leave him. As a backup I'm happy, but will he command too much and will he be a problem?

Personally, I would really like us to grab Steve Blake. In Denver he's averaging 33 minutes, 8 pts. and 6.5 assists. He's a very good distributor and a good character guy to complement Raymond as a backup.

[dav7z]

Brezec i would like for us to get rid of him because i think we take a big with at least one of our picks . And i would like to see Hollins and the draft pick get mins. Be sides we still got jake it might become a log jam at the power foward center position.

[dvdbumpus]

Brezec i would like for us to get rid of him because i think we take a big with at least one of our picks . And i would like to see Hollins and the draft pick get mins. Be sides we still got jake it might become a log jam at the power foward center position.


This is true. Jake has been playing surprisingly well this past month or so. In March he average 7ish points and 6ish rebounds a game. Not bad, considering who it is.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

With the way we've been playing, we could have the same exact line up for next year and do well in the playoffs.

[spectre]

Crash, Fabio, Mek, Felton all are the core players

I think Touche' is gone...least I hope so. I'm afraid of what could happen without Bernie on the bench to control him.

BK NEEDS to be gone. He's one of our few tradable assets and we need to cash him in before it's too late (which it might be...him being out due to injury this year hurt his stock).

Primoz...He'll take that player option and run...after his disappointing play this year I doubt he gets many offers.

Harrington...hopefully packaged in a trade for a quality FA. About the only way we get rid of him.

I think we'll be outbidded for Hammer...but Jordan is very high on him so it's hard to say.

Ammo & May get another year.

Jake stays, Hollins maybe. AA totally dependent on the draft/offseason...I'd say odds are less than 50%. DA probably moves on unless he's offered some type of player/coach position or is moved to the coaching staff exclusively.

[dvdbumpus]

I actually think the idea of having DA be a player/assistant coach or just a assistant coach would be rather brilliant, DA is a pretty smart guy and has that Avery Johnson potential on the style of coaching.

[Mustachio]

dude id love to see that happen, DA as Head Coach even. who cares whoever it is will be better than Bernie at x-o type stuff.

however i dont think it will happen, DA has shown this year that hes still got some left in the tank. I think we should make sure and re-sign at the end of the year to keep that bench scorer around. whenever wallace, ammo, carroll or whoever we got arent getting it done, he seems to step up and score... so id like to keep him.

[Aymi]

I think they'll get rid of Sean May. The way MJ is about really hardworking guys, (Matty, Hermann, Gerald) I don't see them having the patience to work through May's problems.

Even better, if we could get Noah, no question about May leaving. Noah busts his butt like Wallace and would fit in nicely here!

[dav7z]

I dont think we get rid of him this year . Hes still under contract. Not many teams will take a player with bad wheels . So he goes to the end of the beanch til his contract is up . IF i did say if he comes out fireing and healty look to see us try to trade him then.
The two i think is gone is Jeff and B.K.and hope Premoz dont coe back next year.

[rallydurham]

A) The six players under contract who will be back with certainty (barring a trade):

Emeka Okafor ($5.43 million)
Adam Morrison ($3.89)
Ray Felton ($3.27)
Othella Harrington ($2.38)
Jake Voskuhl ($2.05)
Sean May ($1.86)

Combined 6 players ($18.9 million)


B)[b] Two players with team options that will be picked up with near certainty:

Walter Hermann ($1.94)
Ryan Hollins ($0.69)


Which brings us to a total of 8 players at $21.51 million.


[b]C) Primoz Brezec has a $2.75 million player option that he will almost certainly utilize.

Which brings us to a toal of 9 players at $24.26 million


Now this is where it gets interesting:


D) Brevin Knight has a team option worth $4.2 million. I have heard rumor that the team would have to pay him 1.5 million if they do not pick up the option. It's my opinion that Brevin will not be back and that we will use our 2nd first round pick on a backup PG. However, they may wish to retain his services and/or use him as a trade bait during the season. He has an expiring deal and is productive so he certainly has SOME trade value.

E) Free agents on our own team. We technically have 4 free agents but I will also treat Gerald Wallace as one because its a foregone conclusion that he will opt out of his player option.

Gerald Wallace, Matt Carroll, Alan Anderson Jeff McInnis, and Derek Anderson

Gerald Wallace is obviously the most interesting of this group. I have no doubt the Bobcat's would love to sign him to a 5 year/~$45 million deal. However, he is likely to ask for the max. I find it unlikely that he will get a max deal and will probably wind up in the 5 year/~$50-55 million range. There aren't a lot of teams with cap flexibility so I find it unlikely that he finds a deal much better than this but it only takes one team to make it happen.

Matt Carroll is intriguing. He's not strictly a one-dimensional shooter, but he's clearly not a full mid-level exception guy. There are tons of shooters on the market this year (Kapono, Peterson, etc) so this isn't a great year from his perspective to be a free agent. I think he will find that his services are not in very high demand and will take a deal with the Bobcats in the 4 years/~10 million range.

I feel that Alan Anderson will be back for a few reasons. He will sign cheaply, he is a fairly talented young player, and he offers flexibility as a 3rd PG option.

Jeff McInnis is tough to read. I don't think we will offer him more than the minumum to stay in Charlotte. If we decide to keep Brevin next season then McInnis likely won't be back under any circumstance. I have a feeling McInnis signs elsewhere regardless of whether Knight is back or not.

Derek Anderson: MJ has always made it clear that he has man love for DA. He even got him signed to Nike before he'd even played a game in the NBA. That's the only reason I'm not sure what to predict when it comes to DA. His knees are pretty much shot but he would probably take the minimum or close to it so maybe he's back for another year.


F) Contract Extension

Emeka Okafor is eligible for a contract extension this year and there's pretty much no doubt we're going to get this done. The only question is whether we'll be able to get him at a 5 year/~65 million deal or if he'll hold out for the max. In all likelihood I think he gets the max. He's not technically valuable enough to be a "max" player but he's pretty much got us by the balls in this situation. This is why the "max" rule sucks dick. It really undermines the fairness of a competitive market, but at the same time it does keep stars from holding out for exorbitant amounts and then being surrounded by inferior talent (think A-Rod in Texas)



Free Agency: After the huge extension granted to Okafor if we re-sign Gerald Wallace we really won't have the resources to go after a VC or Rashard Lewis type player. If G. Wallace skips town I fully expect us to offer Vince Carter a max deal to bring him to Charlotte. Otherwise the only "outside" free agent I could see us signing is a cheap under the radar guy like Azubuike.


The draft: If we pick #1 or #2 we take Oden or Durant obviously. If we pick #3 we probably take Brandon Wright. If we pick around the ten range I look for us either to take a Center or a SG.

With the late first round choice I think we take a backup PG or perhaps a SG (if we go big man with our first pick)

[WarioVsMooChicken]

I doubt we'll re-sign Hollins. I hope we keep though, I still feel that if we actually gave him some playing time and he grew a tiny bit of intelligence of basketball then he could be the center we're looking for...

[rallydurham]

Um I really doubt we let him go. Why would we let a guy go that can be signed for $690,000 that is ~23 years old when we are in need of big men?

That wouldn't make any sense at all

[dvdbumpus]

D) Brevin Knight has a team option worth $4.2 million. I have heard rumor that the team would have to pay him 1.5 million if they do not pick up the option. It's my opinion that Brevin will not be back and that we will use our 2nd first round pick on a backup PG. However, they may wish to retain his services and/or use him as a trade bait during the season. He has an expiring deal and is productive so he certainly has SOME trade value.



It's true, Brevin has a 1.5 million buyout option See: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/129/story/90991.html


I think we'll sign a PG through FA because we do not have a 2nd round draft pick this year (Jumaine Jones trade). This is why I feel that Marcus Williams, if available, will most likely be our draft pick because he's 6'7" but can run the point as the backup or be the primary SG.

I would try to get a guy like Chris Duhon if available. If not, Chucky Atkins is availble as a backup, or I'd personally just keep Jeff Mcinnis because he knows the system and is a vet.