What do we do

[dav7z]

You the G.M. . You got the 8 th pick and the 22nd pick in the draft. You have the BOBCATS as your team . What do you do . Who do you pick in the draft , Trade up or down , try to land a no 1or2 pick. Trade players who and for who . all off season moves anticaped .LETS SEE IF WE CAN GET ANY MOVES RIGHT...............

[dvdbumpus]

1. Resign Okafor (not going into prices)
2. Resign Wallace (not going into prices)
3. Resign Matt (not going into prices)
3. Sign Antawn Jamison to a 3 year, front loaded contract with mutual option 4th year, with the contract running about 33 million.
4. Trade down to #10 Sacramento so they can draft Hibbert, and they will give us a 2008 1st round pick. With this we will trade Raymond Felton and Adam, and recieve Kevin Martin. (In turn Mike Bibby will be traded for PF help). The kings will rebuild quickly, as the roster indicates:
PG: Raymond
SG: Artest or Adam/Francisco Garcia
SF: Artest or Adam/John Salmons
PF: whoever Bibby is traded for
C: Hibbert/Brad Miller

5. With the above trade, @ #10 we will draft Mike Conley to replace Felton
6. I think Hollins or Anderson will be cut, to make room for the 2nd drafted player
7. We Will draft Marcus Williams from Arizona, who can play both guard postitions, or SF.
8. May will stay. He won't be packaged, as his value is too low and he still has potential to be o.k. as a backup.

Our big signing will be Jamison, with the possibility of Mcinnis/Brevin/D.A. staying - I predict 2 out of 3 will stay.

After these trades, our lineup will look like this:

PG: Mike Conley/Jeff Mcinnis or Brevin released then resigned/Marcus Williams
SG: Kevin Martin/D.A./Marcus Williams
SF: Crash/Matt/Herrmann
PF: Antawn Jamison/Herrmann/May
C: Okafor/Primoz/Jake/Othella

Obviously this is a work in progress but your thoughts? Or what can you guys do to build on this?

[CaptainCrunch]

are you serious? we are losing a PG and rookies usually don't lead teams to the playoffs (conley). we are building towards the present now, not the future (conley)

[dvdbumpus]

I think in the weak East it won't be too hard to garner a playoff spot, and be stronger for the future.

We lose:
Felton
Ammo

We Gain:
Mike Conley
Kevn Martin - Improved SG positon
Marcus Williams - improved guard depth
Antawn Jamison - Improved PF position
Oak @ center - improved C position
Unprotected 1st rounder from Sacramento in 2008.

While Conley is a rookie, he's a good rookie prospect that is more pass first. Felton may become pass first, but with Conley being more of a distributor currently, his teammates (studs) would pick up his slack until he adjusts. There's also the idea of a veteran (Mcinnis, etc) splitting time - Bernie's off the bench, so there can't be anymore of "his guys".

Once again, half the east can't get into the playoffs with decent point guards because the rest of their team sucks. I'd predict we'd still make it based on the rest of the team.

Besides, this is just brainstorming - I know it'd never truely happen.

[dav7z]

Crunch what do you do . You so quick to judge others lets hear your great ideas. And love to take thair rep . Lets hear your ideas Crunch........

[Dead_Real]

Draft Hibbert at the 8 spot and Acie Law/Marcus Williams with the second pick they have both of those guys falling late and I wouldn't mind having them on our team.

[dav7z]

Good ideas ,Im thinking all most like you. With my first pick i would pick Harford, Hibbert, Noah , woh ever is left. likely Noah. True i dont think hes a big star . But i like his work ethic ,drive and desire to win. And i think hes got a place in the N.B. A.
Hear is where i go after a shooting guard. Then i pick between Nick Young and Williams . All most cant miss home run players.
Next we got to resign our three Okafor , Wallace, Carroll.

[spectre]

Bumpus well done!

I do think Sac would want Conley instead, but if it'd get them to give up Martin IMO we should certainly do it. With Martin to drive and help dish I think Felton would work well.

Here's mine:

Draft Conley with the 8th pick, Stuckey with the 22nd. Assuming Memphis gets Oden we do a 4 way...

Charlotte out: Ammo/May/Primoz/BK/Conley/Harrington
Charlotte in: Gasol/Swift/Webster/Jack

Memphis out: Gasol/Swift/Lowry
Memphis in: Conley/May/Primoz/Jones (cap relief bigtime...plus Oden plays with the PG he's been with since 6th grade)

Portland out: Webster/Jack/Dickau/Jones
Portland in: BK/Ammo/Lowry

Milwaukee out: Gadzuric
Milwaukee in: Harrington/Dickau (expirings)

Final roster:

Felton/Jack/Stuckey
Webster/Hammer/Stuckey/DA
Crash/Fabio/Webster
Gasol/Swift/Fabio
Mek/Gadzuric/Jake/Hollins

Getting Jack included might be a sticking point but I wouldn't mind Stuckey getting the PT. Pretty sure Milwaukee will do Gadz for the expirings, and he along with Swift would be a major upgrade to back up Mek.

[tamburello]

I respect spectre's and Bumpus' ideas, but they look very very unlikely to me. Kevin Martin is a player that I love to see as a Bobcat, but he's by far the most important part of Kings' rebuilding plan. If they'd like to acquire Adam+Raymond, they'd offer something like Ron Artest+may be Ronnie Price at most.

Antawn Jamison would be refusing a $ 16 million budget if he opts out. How on earth would he be settled for a 3-4 year contract averaging 11 millions per year? Moreover, he's putting extra values on himself by playing as the only star of Wizards in Cavs series.

It's quite unrealistic to acquire an extra(and unprotected) 1st round pick to move down two spots(If it'd be from 3 to 1, maybe understandable. But from 10 to 8, we maybe acquire a decent player or two second rounders).

spectre's trade proposal is equaling the largest trade in NBA history(recall Miami-Memphis-Boston etc. trade). It's generally a good balanced proposal, but it's also unlikely. I don't think we're ready to shake things as quick as of 2007.

These are ,my little and moderate GM movements(ready to be refuted :D)in chronological order:
1)Exercise the rookie scale options of Adam and Ray, not Sean so that he'd be a restricted FA in 2008 summer(meaning the acception of the fault of selecting him)
2)Exercise option of Hollins, not Herrmann so that he'd be a restricted free agent.
3)Choose either Hibbert or Yi Jianlian with the first pick(if both available pick Hibbert)
4)Choose Marcus Williams, Morris Almond type SG with second pick.
5)Sign Gerald Wallace to a 48 millions/5 year contract.
6)Sign Matt Carroll to a 14 millions/4 year contract.
7)Sign Walter Herrmann to a 17 millions/4 year contract(Carlos Boozer model).
8)Re-Sign Derek Anderson, if Brevin stays let McInnis go, if Brevin goes, re-sign McInnis to a vet min 1 year contract. But I think Brevin would be a valuable trade chip as trade deadline approaches with his expiring 4 million contract.
9)Not hit free agent market as of 2007, sign at most two MLE-type players.
10)Extend Okafor's contract with 65 millions/5 year.

[dvdbumpus]

Tamb, I know that trade would never happen, that's the fun of it! :biggrin:

I think realistically we go best big man 1st, best shooter 2nd in the draft.

We'll sign a FA PF, but probably not Jamison because he'll be too costly. I still say Anderson Varajao, depending on his restricted FA status.

PG: Felton
SG: Marcus Williams/Adam
SF: Crash
PF: Okafor
C: Hibbert

This could definitely change, but I see this as a realistic possibilty.

[dav7z]

Bumpus those two guys is the ones i like
if its any way Hibbert falls to us . That would be great only thing better is we get lucky and get a[ 1st or 2nd pick]that would give us WOW

1. Felton,DA..M Williams or best combo guard
2. .Williams , Carroll ,Morrison,A.Anderson
3. Wallace, D Anderson , Carroll, Morrison,
4. Walter, May , Jake, Harrington, Okafor.
5 Okafor, Hibbert, Premoz, Jake.
Still think we sign a free agent Jamison for help at 3 and 4 and to put buts in the seats . And let the man play at home.
45 to 50 with that group OMG

[spectre]

Alrite...I don't think mine got due consideration because of it's size (sounds good anyway lol!)...but what about the main component of drafting Conley and trading him + filler for Gasol? Of course this helps immensely if Memphis gets Oden, and coincidentally this came out today in a Chicago paper:

"One of the rumors floating around with teams is whomever gets Greg Oden will be pushed to deal a major player for a draft pick to select Mike Conley Jr. because Oden, despite his mature look, is considered more a follower and a playful kid compared with Conley."

Having the Conley chip plus cap space would put us in a good position for Gasol, no?

BTW, all my proposals will have some type of star coming back to Charlotte based upon Jordan's assertion that we must have that "go to guy".

[dvdbumpus]

Alrite...I don't think mine got due consideration because of it's size (sounds good anyway lol!)...but what about the main component of drafting Conley and trading him + filler for Gasol? Of course this helps immensely if Memphis gets Oden, and coincidentally this came out today in a Chicago paper:

"One of the rumors floating around with teams is whomever gets Greg Oden will be pushed to deal a major player for a draft pick to select Mike Conley Jr. because Oden, despite his mature look, is considered more a follower and a playful kid compared with Conley."

Having the Conley chip plus cap space would put us in a good position for Gasol, no?

BTW, all my proposals will have some type of star coming back to Charlotte based upon Jordan's assertion that we must have that "go to guy".


I don't blame you at all, and I would definitely want Gasol. Would that trade happen? Probably not. I would be happy with Rudy Gay, Mike Miller or Hakim Warrick.

I'd be happy if one of those 3 got packaged, and we also got a 2008 first rounder. We need players, but getting one of those guys and a 1st rounder next year, all the while getting rid of Othella, would be beautiful.

[spectre]

Like I've said all along the main thing other than Conley would be cap relief. They came out with some proposal at the beginning of last season about how to run a franchise on the cheap...and don't forget that they've been threatening to sell the club to the ex Duke guys. If we could wipe away 10 million on their payroll as well as a couple of young guys I have to think they'd consider it.

But maybe not.

[ziggy]

Spectre, I like it. But I think the part that would make the deal a no go is that the Blazers probably value Webster a lot more than they do Morrison.

[spectre]

Spectre, I like it. But I think the part that would make the deal a no go is that the Blazers probably value Webster a lot more than they do Morrison.


Zig I'd have thought so too, but check this out:

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=650564

A 3 page thread on that very thing, and they're fairly split. Seems their coach said that Webster is grumbling, so a change of scenary (for both him and Ammo) might be the ticket. Remember Portland's fans had a "Draft the Stache" thing going on before the draft...newspaper involved and everything.

Course the fact that Webster hasn't really panned out doesn't get me all that excited either...figured he'd be a better fit at the 2 (the position we're not loaded at currently).

[dav7z]

Spectre good post and great find. I had no idea Morrison was so well liked and still had that much value.
Good post...............thumbs up