Who do we choose with our #8 pick?

[ziggy]

Lets asume Oden, Durant, Wright & Horford are off the board.

Who do you hope is available from the best of the rest that you'd like to fall to us at #8?

[Wallace15]

I don't know who all of you want, but I hope Brewer or Jianlian fall to us.

[Jonathanmartin7]

Brewer would be my first choice if he's not available I'd hope Hibbert was. If Neither are there I'd look at trading the pick for an afforadable vet SG.

[timang]

i'd prefer either Hibbert or Jianlian for the 8th pick... we do need a quality big guy to team up with EO50. as for our need on the 2 spot, we better start looking for a possible trade or the free agent market for it...

i'm still sad that we haven't been lucky enough to even raise our draft position to 7. :shrug:
damn! :chairshot:

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Yi...

[Dead_Real]

If we stay at that position I want Hibbert

[Keetch]

I'm figuring the Bobcats will feel they have to go with a big and take either Noah or Hibbert, *shrugs* (booorrriinnngggg) leaving better talent on board. Probably Noah since he's rated higher than Hibbert.

I'm starting to think that we'll get a better player at 22 :P which would be the SG we need in Fernandez or Rush.

[Jonathanmartin7]

What day is the draft on? If we go big it'll be Noah, if nobody slips to us like Yi.

[ziggy]

What day is the draft on? If we go big it'll be Noah, if nobody slips to us like Yi.
Its on June 28th.

[dvdbumpus]

What day is the draft on? If we go big it'll be Noah, if nobody slips to us like Yi.
Its on June 28th.


definitely going to be getting that day off work :biggrin:

[Fresh]

I dont know much about Yi Jianlian, but from what yahoo stated, he seems to know how to score, so he would definitely help!! If not him then I would have to say Brewer or Noah, although i'm not a big Brewer fan he is gonna be a good NBA player. I have the draft panning out like this

POR - Greg Oden
SEA - Kevin Durant
ATL or POR - Yi Jianlian (ATL)/Mike Conley, Jr (POR)
MEM - Brandon Wright/Corey Brewer
BOS - Al Horford/Wright
MIL - Joakim Noah/Yi
MIN - Conley (if available)/Acie Law IV

Which leaves us with a slight possibility to take Noah if Conley goes third and Yi goes sixth to the bucks or vice versa with noah where we could take Yi if the bucks take noah. But if Yi goes third then we have better options with the possibility of have of taking one of the three florida guys, or maybe even wright, but i highly doubt right falls pass Boston. The reason I have portland as a possible 3 pick here is because of speculation that portland is trying to get in position where they can take Mike Conley also to complement and comfort Oden, which isnt a bad idea at all, looking that the PG situation in Portland with Dickau and Jack. For the Hawks sake I hope they dont get screwed with either Jack or Dickau, but that would benefit us since they're division rivals. This is definitely an interesting draft a little more complex than last year's but still not enough top-flight talent to top the class of 03.

Which would leave us with the option of taking either Noah or Jianlian if they are available

[cltblkhscoach]

I would love Brewer to fall to us, but I don't think that's going to happen....so I'd love to take Al Thorton, but we can trade down a couple of spots and still get him I believe

[ziggy]

I dont know much about Yi Jianlian, but from what yahoo stated, he seems to know how to score, so he would definitely help!! If not him then I would have to say Brewer or Noah, although i'm not a big Brewer fan he is gonna be a good NBA player. I have the draft panning out like this

POR - Greg Oden
SEA - Kevin Durant
ATL or POR - Yi Jianlian (ATL)/Mike Conley, Jr (POR)
MEM - Brandon Wright/Corey Brewer
BOS - Al Horford/Wright
MIL - Joakim Noah/Yi
MIN - Conley (if available)/Acie Law IV

Which leaves us with a slight possibility to take Noah if Conley goes third and Yi goes sixth to the bucks or vice versa with noah where we could take Yi if the bucks take noah. But if Yi goes third then we have better options with the possibility of have of taking one of the three florida guys, or maybe even wright, but i highly doubt right falls pass Boston. The reason I have portland as a possible 3 pick here is because of speculation that portland is trying to get in position where they can take Mike Conley also to complement and comfort Oden, which isnt a bad idea at all, looking that the PG situation in Portland with Dickau and Jack. For the Hawks sake I hope they dont get screwed with either Jack or Dickau, but that would benefit us since they're division rivals. This is definitely an interesting draft a little more complex than last year's but still not enough top-flight talent to top the class of 03.

Which would leave us with the option of taking either Noah or Jianlian if they are available


Welcome to the board Fresh, Great first post!

[123together]

not joakim!!!!


honestly i think hawes would be a good big man to pick he reminds me of brad miller kinda

[Fresh]

Welcome to the board Fresh, Great first post!




not joakim!!!!


honestly i think hawes would be a good big man to pick he reminds me of brad miller kinda


Thanks Ziggy. Hawes is a decent talent, but Hawes still has a lot of polishing to do before he is a major impact anywhere in the league. You guys will learn I feel like alot of players should stay in school or should have went to college, which is how i feel about Hawes. Hawes wouldve been in great position to be the featured big man not only for Washington, but for the whole Pac-10 or West Coast. The same thing happened a few years back with Robert Swift. Hawes still has a little bit more of toning to do to his body as far as his lanky frame, but he is still a good raw talent who can develop over the next couple of years. I think if we did select Hawes that it wouldnt be bad looking at our core of big men, who were pretty darn good in their hay day in college. If Sean May can stay out of the club and stay healthy he could greatly complement EO50 in mentoring Hawes into a complete big man, that would definitely get him some money after that initial contract.

[Mustachio]

Was kinda on the fence with Yi....but after this video on Youtube... I would be willing to trade up to get him.

hes 7'0 and this is with a standout NBA player guarding him. I know its just one clip, but damn... he looks better than i thought.

z-nfAJJJV_M


fixed the video link for you -- ziggy :)

[dvdbumpus]

Wow he absolutely owned Pau Gasol. He dribbles like a guard too!

[Slam]

I'd like to acquire the Celts #5 by trading them Ammo and the #22 and they send us Wally.

Then at #5 draft Horford and at #8 draft Brewer.

Felts
Brewer
Crash
Horford
EO50

Everything Coach Vincent wants and more!!

[Dead_Real]

I'd like to acquire the Celts #5 by trading them Ammo and the #22 and they send us Wally.

Then at #5 draft Horford and at #8 draft Brewer.

Felts
Brewer
Crash
Horford
EO50

Everything Coach Vincent wants and more!!

If we could pull that off that would be greatness

[dvdbumpus]

I'd like to acquire the Celts #5 by trading them Ammo and the #22 and they send us Wally.

Then at #5 draft Horford and at #8 draft Brewer.

Felts
Brewer
Crash
Horford
EO50

Everything Coach Vincent wants and more!!


What would become of Wally? We have a cheaper version of him: Matt Carroll. If we got him we could trade him somewhere else...maybe Miami?? :biggrin:

[Slam]

The only reason Wally is in the deal would be to give the Celts some cap space which would be the reason they would send the #5 to us - we agree to take on his contract and they agree to give us #5.

I don't want Wally at all, but he would be an expiring contract after the next season which in itself can be valuable for teams looking to create space so maybe we could move him next off season for what ever we can get?

[Mustachio]

So the celtics get a player you call the worst in the NBA last season, get rid of an average SG in wally AND the number 5 pick so they can move all the way down to #22. and gain a little cap space
all while letting a conference foe move up to get a player they feel can help their team.

I wouldnt mind having Wally, the number 5 and number 8 pick in this draft. but i just dont see that happening. and with horford and brewer we would be a really small team. not one person over 6 10. if a team wanted to slow grind it on us, we would get dominated.

with the current General manager climate... no exciting trades will happen, and we will be picking 8th. not to say we cant talk about it, cause i love talkin about it. but it just sucks none of these people have the guts to gamble and take chances on trades.

[Slam]

I wouldn't consider $20 plus million (which is what is owed to Wally) "a little cap space". Especially if moving his contract frees up the space for the Celts to go after Carter or Lewis - which is what Pierce wants: some vets and no more kids.

[Jonathanmartin7]

No way they'd go for it way too lopsided. And who can hit a guarded 3 in your line up? Brewer? Crash? if Crash can hit guarded 3's he would be our SG.

The latest mock on nbadraft.net has us taking Noah, isn't that Bumpus's favorite player in the draft?

[Mustachio]

chad fords latest mock draft (which means absolutely freaking nothing by the way)

says we are most likely going after Rashard Lewis for our scoring problems and drafting Noah at the 8 spot... so that with oak, primoz, may and noah... we could give teams tons of different looks in the front court... and i suppose thats true, and theres worse scenarios to dream up... but damn id be upset if we got lazy ass lewis and lame ass noah in the same offseason.

[Keetch]

Agreed...the number 8 pick is really looking like a 'tweener for us. If we can't trade, I'd vote that we take Jeff Green (if he stays in the draft) as the "best player available." But if we can trade either up or down, we can do better. Frankly, Green would make us super athletic on the front line. I can see GForce, Okafor and Green raising hell for sure.

That's assuming Brewer is gone, as its looking at this time. Anyways, I think Brewers a little over-hyped.

I wouldn't mind us trading up for Horford, or trading down and around for a combination of Nick Young and Jason Smith. That would be awesome!

[ziggy]

Agreed...the number 8 pick is really looking like a 'tweener for us. If we can't trade, I'd vote that we take Jeff Green (if he stays in the draft) as the "best player available." But if we can trade either up or down, we can do better. Frankly, Green would make us super athletic on the front line. I can see GForce, Okafor and Green raising hell for sure.

That's assuming Brewer is gone, as its looking at this time. Anyways, I think Brewers a little over-hyped.

I wouldn't mind us trading up for Horford, or trading down and around for a combination of Nick Young and Jason Smith. That would be awesome!
Keetch,
I've been trying to figure out the hype around Jeff Green for a while. What is it about Green that you like? Every time that I've watched him play he looks like a solid college player, but thats about it :-\

[Jonathanmartin7]

My take is he is a team player. At GT he was playing for the best of the team, Hibbert. He has some good sides but I'd not take him with the 8th pick. I'm really stumped this year. From what I saw(read)about the pre draft camp, if Conley is within our reach we'd be foolish not to take him. I'm happy with Ray but this guy is really,really good.

[Keetch]

I'm not exactly enamored with Green for sure. His combine results were very good for whatever thats worth, and I do remember him taking over some games at G-Town (but not often enough IMO). But if Brewer and Conley are gone and we're left with the choice of Green, Wright or Noah, what to do? Nobody seems to like Noah, and Green/Wright is a toss up for me.

That's why I think we're in an awkward position. Nick Young would make a great pick, but 8 is too high. Maybe take him anyway.

[Jonathanmartin7]

Why is 8 to high for nick? He'll be the next best player on the board that plays SG and we gotta get one of those in the draft! I wouldn't care one way or the other as long as we get him.
I am probably the only guy on the board that likes Noah, but after combine and his poor performence there, I'd rather take Young with the 8th pick. Would you guys rather take Rudy then? I mean who else is going to be able to play SG on opening day?

[dav7z]

Im big on Nick to. I think he might be the best s/g in the draft but they are so many good ones its hard to tell. Hawes can put it in the hole and his stock keeps going up he may be the one to take at eight.I kinda think Rudy might be around at 22 not sure though. The way Wrights stock is falling he may be around at eight too.

[Mustachio]

speaking of hawes... i just read that he beat Kevin Duranat in most agility drills during this predraft camp. Hawes was supposed to be one of the least atheletic guys comin in and durant the best....

that... if true... is terrifying if your a fan of seattle.

[Keetch]

Agree with everyone. I'm just saying that if we can trade around and get Nick a little lower, while trading up our 22 to get Jason Smith, then thats a win-win. I know its a huge reach to think our managers could be so savvy to figure out how to do that..very difficult. From what I'm reading online about Nick Young, the consensus is just that he's in the low 10's, not 8. Otherwise, hey I don't know, never really watched him play :P I'm going on you-alls recommendations!

Hey I used to think Noah was just so cool; then I started reading this stuff...LOL; now I just want to fit in...Noah sucks!

As for Durant; I wonder if they have a drill called "playing basketball" LOL. I imagine Kev would do rather well at that.

The combine does bring to light the risk-side of Durant though. He is still very thin and lacking in strength. Don't know, but he may be very injury-vulnerable once he starts logging large NBA minutes. It'll be verrry interesting.

By the way, I am now a season-ticket holder - 4th Row! WOOT there's one born every minute...umm, not season ticket holders LOL

[Dead_Real]

Only if we don't plan on moving up and if Brewer is gone I'd strongly consider taking Nick Young at 8 to be honest.

[Jonathanmartin7]

Keetch, congrats on the season tickets! 4th row!!! If you can't go to any games I'll buy the ones for a Wensday, or a Sunday game. You should paint www.bobcatsplanet.com somewhere, on a sign I guess was going to say on your forehead or something but that is a lot of paint. lol
your head isn't that big is it?

[Dead_Real]

Hopefully I can make it up to Charlotte for a few Bobcats games this season.

[Keetch]

Yes, I'm right behind the Bobcats bench too...and my hat size is 7 1/2 because of all the brains...

I'll for sure look to sell some; there's no way I can use them all.

And apologies, don't wish to redirect the thread. Maybe I'll start one soon to generally discuss ticketholding...

[dvdbumpus]

Why is 8 to high for nick? He'll be the next best player on the board that plays SG and we gotta get one of those in the draft! I wouldn't care one way or the other as long as we get him.
I am probably the only guy on the board that likes Noah, but after combine and his poor performence there, I'd rather take Young with the 8th pick. Would you guys rather take Rudy then? I mean who else is going to be able to play SG on opening day?


I'd try to trade down to get Nick Young or trade the pick with a player for someone in return, then draft a shooter @ 22. Maybe Portland would consider the 8 and Adam for Lamarcus Aldridge? They need a good SF and the fans would love him. We, in return would get the big man we've been aiming for (may cost something, but we know what we get more than many of the draftees). Portland might also have enough picks to package to get Conley.
Then with the #22 we grab the best SG available.

I think it could be done.

[timang]

Would you guys rather take Rudy then? I mean who else is going to be able to play SG on opening day?


rudy is projected as the #1 SG on the draft according to draftexpress.com, and i'm sure as hell to root for him if we get him on the team...