B.K.. keep him or let him go.

[dav7z]

The Bobcats have a team option to keep him or let him go. He will make 4.4 mil this year if we keep him .
Do we keep him for 4.4 mil
Do we just not pick up the team option.
Do we try to packege him in a sign and trade deal.
Or do we try to sign him at a veteran min. about 2.2 mil
What do you think would benefit us the most with B.K.

[Wallace15]

Sign and trade him. He's already stunted Felton's growth at PG. Get him outta here.

[tamburello]

He hasn't got a team option actually. The truth is that there is clause which states "if we pay him 1.5 millions, he'll be a free agent" otherwise his 4.4 millions contract will go on one more year. Technically that's not a team option.

And I don't want to him be released, either in offseason, or until February trade deadline we'll surely find a customer for him. Just like Ely. This time we need to get the optimum offer.

[dvdbumpus]

Only if Mcinnis goes do i wanna keep him. Otherwise i'd prefer a sign and trade.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Who's more likely to stay, Mcinnis or BK?

[ziggy]

I thought Mcinnis until Phil Ford was hired as an assistant.

I can't imagine him and Ford working together well all season.

[Mother was a mudder]

Sign and trade him. He's already stunted Felton's growth at PG. Get him outta here.


Yep get rid of him. You may think i'm crazy but i really believe i could beat BK in one on one, and that means we dont need his ass.

[Dead_Real]

I'm going to say Jeff over BK I think Vincent will be able to keep things in line between those two.

As for the thread at hand I'd try a sign and trade anything to get Brevin off of our roster.

[timang]

keep him first and then let him go... via trade of course. :biggrin:

[TheBeagle]

I'm confused about all the "hating" on BK. I've seen 75% or more of Bobcats games, and BK just goes out there and scraps and, generally, gets the job done (except for the missed FTs in LA 2 seasons ago). Also, how does his presence "stunt Felton's growth" as a PG? Does BK sit on the bench and tell Raymond to dribble into a crowd with no idea what he's going to do with the ball? Does he yell out "BRICK" when he releases his jumper? If anyone can explain the general BK antipathy I've noticed on this board, I'd like to know its reasoning.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

I'm confused about all the "hating" on BK. I've seen 75% or more of Bobcats games, and BK just goes out there and scraps and, generally, gets the job done (except for the missed FTs in LA 2 seasons ago). Also, how does his presence "stunt Felton's growth" as a PG? Does BK sit on the bench and tell Raymond to dribble into a crowd with no idea what he's going to do with the ball? Does he yell out "BRICK" when he releases his jumper? If anyone can explain the general BK antipathy I've noticed on this board, I'd like to know its reasoning.


I like BK and think he's a great player. The thing I've noticed though is that he's production has decreased a whole lot lately. In my opinion, he is still starter material but we don't need a starter since we have Felton, so I think we should trade him while he still has a lot of value.

In the end, I'll be happy if he stays or goes.

[dvdbumpus]

He stunted Felton's growth by making Felton play off the guard. It was also rumored that Brevin gave no help to Felton on trying to learn the ropes as BK didn't want to lose his starting gig.

[Dead_Real]

He stunted Felton's growth by making Felton play off the guard. It was also rumored that Brevin gave no help to Felton on trying to learn the ropes as BK didn't want to lose his starting gig.

I blame Bernie to an instant.

[Mustachio]

I'm confused about all the "hating" on BK. I've seen 75% or more of Bobcats games, and BK just goes out there and scraps and, generally, gets the job done (except for the missed FTs in LA 2 seasons ago). Also, how does his presence "stunt Felton's growth" as a PG? Does BK sit on the bench and tell Raymond to dribble into a crowd with no idea what he's going to do with the ball? Does he yell out "BRICK" when he releases his jumper? If anyone can explain the general BK antipathy I've noticed on this board, I'd like to know its reasoning.


I think most of the hate stems from BK's relationship with Bernie. Bernie plays favorites pretty bad and people generally thought Ray was better (wether he is or not). We have a big UNC fan base so naturally they would want their guy starting. I personally feel that Raymond and BK right now are even with thier abilities... BK can do stuff Ray cant and vice versa. HOWEVER, (switching to my Stephen A. Smith voice) Ray is younger with more upside... and if we are gonna win 32 games with BK and 31 with Ray... im taking Ray everytime so that he can get better, while BK has likely topped out.

[spectre]

He stunted Felton's growth by making Felton play off the guard. It was also rumored that Brevin gave no help to Felton on trying to learn the ropes as BK didn't want to lose his starting gig.


Wow...I never heard that one. I always got the impression they got along ok, esp. on the court.

BTW Zig...love the new layout.

[dav7z]

Ive heard the romors of of rifs THET B.K. has had with Felton , Morrison and May . But i have no idea how muck of its true. To me it seemed like B.K. stayed hurt a lot last year and instead of him coming in off the beanch as a key back up. B. K goes back to point then Felton has to leave his point position and go back to playing the 2 guard enough to keep any player screwed up.
All SO a B.K Felton backcourt caused a hell of a lot of match up problems. Felton and Carol looked a hell of a lot better.

[spectre]

Also, I listened to Higgins on WFNZ this morning. He spent a good chunk of time talking about the need for a backup PG. He also spent a lot of time not answering questions, but that's what he is supposed to be doing at this stage. He spoke highly of Acie Law which is interesting since I read that he will not workout for us.

I pulled that off another message board, posted on the 8th. Doesn't it seem stange that we're supposedly "up in the air" about picking up Knight's option when both Vincent and Higgins has said backup PG is a concern?

Maybe there is something to the rumors. No doubt there's something going on with Jordan, etc. in regards to Knight.

[Mustachio]

i have never seen anything printed up that says BK had problems with anyone. can someone send me a link if they got it.
i did however hear that adam had problems with someone...and the likely choice to me was BK.

it just seemed to me last year that not one person besides Crash... ever talked to BK. hes not a leader, everyone thinks that Ray should have the job and i think everyone would rather play with Ray. this is of course all speculation from just seeing the games live and on TV. but regardless... BK doesnt look like hes gonna be a Bobcat this year.

Im pretty sure that guy would love to go to memphis, its his home and he has a big house there... and they need a point guard pretty bad... any trade we could work out with Memphis to get him outta here?

maybe BK, Sean may and the 8th... for the 4th pick and a second rounder???? i would take that in a hot minute...

[spectre]

It'd be hard to get Memphis to give up that 4th pick, as it'll probably land Horford or Brandon Wright.

Stromile Swift and a protected future 1st for BK? This would help somewhat in upgrading the front court, which is one of Vincent's "needs". They trade Swift's deal for an expiring. Win-win.

[ziggy]

BTW Zig...love the new layout.
Thanks man :)

On the rumors of BK not getting along with people, I wish I had this on tape, but in the T-Wolves game where Adam went ballistic in the 2nd half, there was a time at the end of the game where Adam came off of the court and everyone high-fived him and looked like they were genuinely happy for him. Brevin approached him and reached out his hand and Adam looked at him and walked right by. I wish I had that on tape.
Also, you could go literally 3 or 4 games without Brevin passing the ball to Adam. I know he was ice cold for large chunks of the season. I don't have any proof (ooooh, how I wish I did :biggrin:) but from the outside looking in, it sure looked like there were issues between BK and Adam.

[Mustachio]

i think BK feels this sense of entilment that no one else respects.

Bernie gave BK a lot of PT and i think it went to BKs head. he now thinks hes more important than he really is.

i mean i dont think he would start at point guard for any team in the league. hes a solid backup at best in my opinion

[dav7z]

The thing with Morrison is one of the things i was talking about.All so While B.K was hurt Wallace and OK50 seemed to really be starting to hook up with Felton on some damn nice passes for dunks and things. And at the home games Felton would get high fives from about everone but B.K it kinda looked like hes was pissed . And most of last year B.K. only hung around Wallace in the games.

[Mustachio]

yeah ive never seen anyone but Crash fraternize with BK. maybe not a bad thing in general... but when the guy is playing a position of leadership and distrubution...

you cant have personal conflicts and favortism getting in the way.

[Mother was a mudder]

He stunted Felton's growth by making Felton play off the guard. It was also rumored that Brevin gave no help to Felton on trying to learn the ropes as BK didn't want to lose his starting gig.


And who needs a piece of chit like that on their roster. Not only that but he cant shoot for chit, sucks at pick and roll and rarely finds open shooters. He is boring and he is mediocre at best.

[dvdbumpus]

I'll find the link for the no help to Felton by BK.

As for Crash, it's a good thing that he's a team guy (hopefully that's how the situation is) and doesn't just abandon him. I remember in a bobcats' article it stated he didn't care who started, as long as it's one of them.

I think Crash supports him, but nobody else. How is Felton and Crash's relationship?

[TheBeagle]

Thanks for the insights on BK. I've always got the impression that he's not a true leader on the court, and he has a 'prima donna' way about him, but I just chalked it up to BK being BK; I didn't realize there were probable chemistry issues with him and other players. While he had an off year last year (and it's looking like it'll be his last here), I still credit him with helping build the tough-nosed mentality that we've come to know as Bobcats basketball. He, GW, 'Mek, and Bernie were the bricklayers, so in that sense I'll remember him for the good he did, not the purported bad.

[Mustachio]

i second that beagle... BK was the only decent point guard we had in year one, and some of year 2... he was the leader then, and that first year squad was full of fighters and workers. the guard has changed though.

i think just like bernie, he had gotten us as far as he could and we should thank him and go in a different direction. It seemed to me he took being the ONLY point guard on the team as being the best point guard ya know.... it was his job because of a lack of candidates.

either way, raymond should definetly be the starter now even if BK stays on the team.

[Dead_Real]

I'll find the link for the no help to Felton by BK.

As for Crash, it's a good thing that he's a team guy (hopefully that's how the situation is) and doesn't just abandon him. I remember in a bobcats' article it stated he didn't care who started, as long as it's one of them.

I think Crash supports him, but nobody else. How is Felton and Crash's relationship?

Gerald must love all of the sick allys Ray threw up to him this past season :)

If I'm not mistaken didn't Emeka have some words about Ray Ray not getting him the ball enough? I rememer reading it on the Observer.

[dvdbumpus]

Thank you BK...I liked you in year 1 and at the beginning of year 2. Felton is now out leader and you're only hurting that and the team. Now help us out by bringing someone decent back, and you can groom someone......somewhere else.

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I'm certain Okafor will get the ball a lot this year, as we're going to have a better PG this year coming out of the summer league. Remember that thing about dishing to Okafor, Ray? I think he'll do that plenty this coming season.

[spartcock77]

sign and trade or release prefferably the first option

[ziggy]

sign and trade or release prefferably the first option
Welcome to the board Spartcock77, glad to have you here :)

[dvdbumpus]

yes,

Welcome to the board Spartcock77!