We still got Jason Richardson

[WarioVsMooChicken]

...and some dude named Jermareo Davidson.

http://www.charlotte.com/109/story/177920.html

Do you think this was a good or bad decision?

[Defense]

I dunno, I am a big Brandan Wright fan and was excited about having him so I am a bit disappointed.... And J-rich is expensive as hell and doesn't give us a superstar, a best he fills a need. I just think Brandan will be a monster, and GS is a great fit for him really.

[Alex]

FANTASTIC DECISION!

Brandan Wright would of taken time to develop, and I'm sure fans and the organization are tired of waiting and waiting and waiting for young players to develop. With Jason Richardson you know what you're gonna get, 20 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists, 1-2 steals and a lot of hustle not to mention the veteran presence and his amazing quickness in the open court combined with his orgasmic dunking ability. I really hope we re-sign Wallace because the thought of those two running fast breaks is making me drool.

[Wallace15]

THIS TRADE WAS FUCKING AWESOME! We get our legit SG and the only thing we had to give up was BW who would take at least 2 years to develop. Plus we get a big guy in Davidson.
Our line-up next year could possibly be

Felton
Jrich
Wallace
Hermann or May
Okafor.

Damn, I can't wait till next season. We're playoff bound for sure.

[dvdbumpus]

I loved the trade!!!

J-rich is a sure thing, 26 and a future all star.


It's better to have something you know is good, rather than something that MIGHT be great. Not many here were excited on getting him, and Okafor plays his future position.

Like Richardson's desire, passion, and game. J-Rich, Wallace = :cheers1: :hypo: :dribble: :funkybanana: :wow1: :wootjump:

[GSW_BC_fan]

ok im a warrior fan and turned bobcat fan last year, and i think jason in Charlotte will be a great ideal( yet i still wish he was with the warriors :-\) with jason on the team were going to the playoffs :biggrin:

[Alex]

I loved the trade!!!

J-rich is a sure thing, 26 and a future all star.


It's better to have something you know is good, rather than something that MIGHT be great. Not many here were excited on getting him, and Okafor plays his future position.

Like Richardson's desire, passion, and game. J-Rich, Wallace = :cheers1: :hypo: :dribble: :funkybanana: :wow1: :wootjump:


Even better, JRich + Wallace + fastbreaks = gold

[Fromage]

Yes, it's expensive ... but it solves a big problem.
I think this makes us legit. yeah it's a sacrifice, but we're legit now.

[Wallace15]

I loved the trade!!!

J-rich is a sure thing, 26 and a future all star.


It's better to have something you know is good, rather than something that MIGHT be great. Not many here were excited on getting him, and Okafor plays his future position.

Like Richardson's desire, passion, and game. J-Rich, Wallace = :cheers1: :hypo: :dribble: :funkybanana: :wow1: :wootjump:


Even better, JRich + Wallace + fastbreaks = gold

Better than even better, JRich + Wallace + Felton = Even better GOLD

[Fromage]

Someone do the math - how much money do we have left?

[dvdbumpus]

Yes, it's expensive ... but it solves a big problem.
I think this makes us legit. yeah it's a sacrifice, but we're legit now.



Expensive, but less expensive than Larry Hughes, Ray Allen, Lamar Odom, AK-47 and Vince Carter.

He's also on the upswing like the others listed above, is 26, becomes a go to man, plays better in the playoffs, is a team guy, works hard all the time, is a leader, non-troublemaker, rarely injured, unselfish, and is signed for the next 4 years for under $15 million...WHICH will be far below the cost for players near his production wise now as well as when inflation hits.

Expensive in $$$ yes, but an excellent VALUE once the factors above are listed.

[Alex]

I loved the trade!!!

J-rich is a sure thing, 26 and a future all star.


It's better to have something you know is good, rather than something that MIGHT be great. Not many here were excited on getting him, and Okafor plays his future position.

Like Richardson's desire, passion, and game. J-Rich, Wallace = :cheers1: :hypo: :dribble: :funkybanana: :wow1: :wootjump:


Even better, JRich + Wallace + fastbreaks = gold

Better than even better, JRich + Wallace + Felton = Even better GOLD


Actually I'd call that platinum.

By the way after acquiring JRich I think it's fair to say that we can take the "cheap" tag off of the shoulders of Bob Johnson and the organization as a whole.

[dvdbumpus]

Someone do the math - how much money do we have left?




We are currently @ $32 million (excluding Crash, Matt, DA, or Mcinnis) I see crash back ($11/year), Matt 75% back(being a MLE of 5.5 million), and DA/Mcinnis 15% or so back.

So we'd be at roughly 48 million there. Sign Okafor and Herrmann to an extension, we'll be around 60'ish, but below the cap. I don't think we'll do too much via FA other than to fill the roster. With the draft picks and keeping Hollins, Brevin, and Herrmann, Crash and matt we have the roster filled while being right near the $65 million mark as the bottom line.

[Fromage]

as a bobcats fan living in northern california i've seen a bit of him. He's a little clumsy at times, and not a highly skilled guy - but he's a bobcat. he's tough, and fiesty. he's the kind of guy that will make your proud like Crash, Matt & Oak ... more importantly, he's certainly capable of filling one of our two needs: he's a solid SG. we now have a legit starting 5 for the first time. did it cost big money? yeah. but we're a big step closer.

[Fromage]

Bumpus - you the man.

[tamburello]

It looks like the only who feels raped is me.

No, I won't be like Stephen A. Smith. But I wonder very much, did that trade arranged before the draft or not? If before the draft, why didn't we try to get their 18th pick? If during the draft(that means "we" select at 36 instead of them), why didn't we select McRoberts, Marc Gasol etc? Why did we give up on Wright that easily?

I clearly got Jordan's, Johnson's idea. They want "instant" success. And they might be right. Since I'm thousands of miles away from where you are, since I'm not buying for season tickets, I was content to wait for better players. I cannot understand your feelings, your impatience. But that's a one sided trade, we'll understand it better as the years go by. While we settle for a first-round exit, Warriors will be aiming Western Conference Finals. Richardson is not a player that can carry a team to anywhere. Legit but it could be better.

One year ago, I was thinking that how stupid Mullin was as a GM. He had 4 horrible contracts all signed by himself, not acquired via trade(Richardson, Foyle, Dunleavy, Murphy). But in a year, he got rid of 3 them. And ironically, the two executives who took those are legends, Bird and Jordan. The two players who are known for their high basketball IQ's. That proves always there are dumbers than dumbs.

I'm frustrated maybe because I was sooo stick with that Amare rumor, I'm disappointed we'll have to have unproven J-Rich instead of TNT explosive Amare. But I have nothing to do with that. Hopefully he'll make me the real dumb when the day comes and he'll be the contributor we demand. I have nothing to say more.

At least we didn't take Noah.

[timang]

It looks like the only who feels raped is me.

No, I won't be like Stephen A. Smith. But I wonder very much, did that trade arranged before the draft or not? If before the draft, why didn't we try to get their 18th pick? If during the draft(that means "we" select at 36 instead of them), why didn't we select McRoberts, Marc Gasol etc? Why did we give up on Wright that easily?

I clearly got Jordan's, Johnson's idea. They want "instant" success. And they might be right. Since I'm thousands of miles away from where you are, since I'm not buying for season tickets, I was content to wait for better players. I cannot understand your feelings, your impatience. But that's a one sided trade, we'll understand it better as the years go by. While we settle for a first-round exit, Warriors will be aiming Western Conference Finals. Richardson is not a player that can carry a team to anywhere. Legit but it could be better.

One year ago, I was thinking that how stupid Mullin was as a GM. He had 4 horrible contracts all signed by himself, not acquired via trade(Richardson, Foyle, Dunleavy, Murphy). But in a year, he got rid of 3 them. And ironically, the two executives who took those are legends, Bird and Jordan. The two players who are known for their high basketball IQ's. That proves always there are dumbers than dumbs.

I'm frustrated maybe because I was sooo stick with that Amare rumor, I'm disappointed we'll have to have unproven J-Rich instead of TNT explosive Amare. But I have nothing to do with that. Hopefully he'll make me the real dumb when the day comes and he'll be the contributor we demand. I have nothing to say more.

At least we didn't take Noah.


tamb, i share your sentiments on the j-rich trade, also as i might never live to see a bobcats game in person, but i see the move by the front office as a "business" solution to their present problems. the fans and the community over charlotte are still pissed and stuck w/ the hornets leaving. "business" i mean providing what the community wants right now and salvaging their investment, not to mention their faces. it might be a good trade, but it wasn't great(i.e. like you said also, why couldn't they ask for the 18th?). clearly GSW got the better of the deal, as we are now left with a roster of forwards, primo still our center(as of this moment), and not getting the better of this draft class.

i feel happier though that something was done. the worst case scenario didn't happen, good Lord(noah), but i have this stingy feeling that we sure could have done better. i hope that our off-season's still not over.

to 2008 playoffs everyone :rock:

[tray]

...and some dude named Jermareo Davidson.

http://www.charlotte.com/109/story/177920.html

Do you think this was a good or bad decision?


I'm done with the Bobcats.  Trading Brandan Wright for Jason Richardson is beyond stupid.  They could have gotten rid of some more players to get Jason Richardson, instead of an interior player that they need.  I will not sit around and watch Okafor struggle in the paint by himself for another year, nor will I watch the Bobcats have no interior presence whatsoever when Okafor inevitably misses a few games.  And no, nothing they could get in Free Agency will have the talent of a Brandan Wright.

Michael Jordan once again blows a draft.  Just like he did last year, like I said last year, and definitely like he did with Kwame Brown.  Screw the Bobcats. They should have shipped Brevin Knight out of town somewhere, if not GS, then somewhere else. I'm sick of this team with ONE OKAFUR in the paint, and Brevin Knight in the way.

[Dead_Real]

Love the pick like I told Bumpus last night expect a lot of Allys from Felts to Crash and J-Rich :D

Also reading MJ's comments he thinks that there will be no problem resigning Wallace so that's also great news.

[Mustachio]

See ya Tray dont let the door hit ya.


Im not worried about the trade so much. We got a great team guy, a proven scorer and a position of need. Not to mention we got a project very similiar to the one we gave up. Basically it amounts to this.
We got J-rich, and a 6'11 Project... for a 6'10 Project who played on a better college team.
I really just see that as a wash man. we now have a guy we dont have to break the bank on, and we can count on him in the SG role. step by step filling the positions.

Its really only being second guessed because a better deal seemed to be in the works with Amare. Had that trade deal never been discussed, we would all be a lot happier with this deal. At least this way we didnt have to give up any of our core players, and we added a guy to the core.

The draft grade from me was about an A at that point.. then they took Dudley. wow... i dont know man. im sure they know what they are doing here, and maybe its a trade option that didnt get talked about.... all i know is if we drafted him for this team, i gotta be worried about the resigning of Gerald Wallace.

[Dead_Real]

Agreed Must I think at that 22 pick we should have took Gasol or hell even McRoberts. I'm not sure how Dudley will fit with Fabio that's the only questionable move we made last night IMO.

[Mustachio]

MAYBE, vincent and the staff have decided to run and gun with a small lineup this year similiar to Golden State last year.

Maybe they want to go with a lineup that includes Okafor being the center and the tallest guy out there. and playing guys like hermann, dudley, and May at the PF spot. those are all guys that can run pretty well. i guess... i have no idea really

Felton, Richardson, Wallace, Hermann, Okafor. i could live with that lineup. not a whole lot of big guys we need to worry about in the East. and when we wanna slow the tempo down, we still got Primoz, Hollins, Voshkul, Davidson to beat and bang... so well see.

[ammofan]

Sportscenter will end up making a Bobcats Top 10 plays to show every night! Can you imagine the dunks of G-Dub and J-Rich!!!! Along with amazing shots from The Stache and Matt!! I can just imagine Steve Martin or Henry Williams saying........."Al Horford backs down Emeka, The ball is knocked away by Raymond! Raymond passes to Morrison on the fast break and he throws up an alley oop to Richardson!!!! What a play!"

I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!

[jaxatax23]

yea this is for tray...dude why r u so upset?? u act like wright could come in an be a dominant player next year...NOOO...he's a project! can u say marvin williams?? he was given the hype of having tons of potential and was even given more hype than wright...an lemme ask u sumthin tray...what did marvin williams do this past year?? yea he did absolutely nothing! so u can say screw the bobcats, but they made an excellent move last night in getting Jrich...i mean seriously...ever since we started our franchise, the player we have always lacked a good SG...and we got him last night so i think u should reconsider being a fan...now the dudley picked sucked, i wont lie...but ayy Jrich will help us tray...u should be excited

[Mustachio]

... not to mention, wright played on a great college team that had plenty of options to go to. we are not missing out on anything in Brandon Wright... Stephen a smith just talks to hear his own mouth and to get people to disagree so his ratings go up.

there is only one thing in this world that binds every person, race and culture... its the utter disdain for Stephen Ass Smith.

[DaFlameking]

tray. you have to look at what we needed first ever since our 2nd year. a starting SG. ever since our inaugural year, we had the most problems in our SG spot. First Kapono was there until we signed Kareem Rush. Kapono did excellent and was a good rotation putting Rush in starting position in a few games.

But, Bernie that idiot just let Kapono leave to the Heat even though Kapono wanted to stay on the team even. Kapono even said he'll take lower cash just to play here but Bernie said "go and win a ring at the heat". Kareem was left to play SG all by himself until he got snobby and we just dropped him. Ever since we hadnt had a good starting SG (matt carroll is our jerry stackhouse, does good coming off the bench) until now. J Rich is finally here and it does two things for us.
Bring a veteran in (who has plenty of experience whoopin them mavericks lol and fills our needed spot for 2 years.)

our job is almost accomplished. just find someone to play the center to back up okafor and we're perfect

[tamburello]

My complaint isn't about that Wright is the best player in this draft. He could be Noah, Julian Wright or someone else whom we lost. And don't worry, I wasn't influenced by the stupid words of idiot Stephen A. Smith. The only thing that I wanted is that getting a better caliber player. Or maybe getting 18th pick instead of 36th. Shortly I just wanted more. And I still think we could bring a better player with better conditions. Because we had heck of cap space then.

But all said and done. I'm ceasing moaning right now. Since Jason Richardson is a bobcat at the moment, I'll be supporting him as well as the whole team. Like I said before, hopefully he'd be masterpiece of our squad. Hopefully he fills the exact need of us, and fills completely. Hopefully he'll lead or help us to make a run to playoff. I'm completely positive :).

[Dunk]

I think we had to go get one piece of the puzzle. We needed a SG that can score and we got a very good one. If the coaching strategy is to run, then Dudley makes sense. We've got a quick team that hustle and can shoot.

I was not happy with the Wright pick and glad this trade worked out. I think we've got enough young guys that we've developed and I don't think a lot of fans were going to tolerate another year or two of that. I wasn't.

With the nucleus of guys that we have now: Okafor, Felton, Richardson, Wallace (assuming he's re-signed) and Carroll (also hoping he stays), Morrison, and Hermann coming off the bench. It's a pretty good team. We should have enough assuming we lock up our free agents to be a playoff team for the next couple of years.

Still think we need to upgrade at C, though.

[dvdbumpus]

Tray, I hope you don't leave officially because we'll miss your good posting.

However, you can't deny, when looking at what we faced in the draft, we came out with a pretty damn good option.

Look at what the Celtics gave up: #5 in turn losing Green, Delonte West, and Wally and got 32 year old surgery to both ankles no defending Ray Allen and Big Baby Davis.

Now what did we give up? #8 Brandan Wright, who MIGHT be good, MIGHT be great, MIGHT be a bust. We get a player that is not a rookie, younger than our already young team. Richardson is also not a injury risk with the exception of last year.


All in all, remember this: we are changing our entire offensive system with a new coach teaching the guys new things. We have no ideas what his official plan of action is, so Dudley might fit a need, or be something bigger. We have no idea about any plans Vincent has, so we have to take everything with a grain of salt. I'm giving them a chance to express their plans, but obviously Richardson fits their plan. See what they have in mind, and decide from that point what you think of the trade.