Assuming Wallace and Carroll resign, whats the lineup looking like?

[thebigabd]

PG: Raymond Felton
-Averaged 14 points, 7 assists, and 3.5 rebounds per game last season.

SG: Jason Richardson
- Averaged 16.0 points, 5.1 rebounds, 3.4 assists and 1.1 steals per game last season.

SF: Gerald Wallace
- Averaged 18.1 points, 7.2 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 2.0 steals, and 1.0 blocks per game last season.

PF: Emeka Okafor
- Averaged 14.4 points, 11.3 rebounds, 1.2 assists, and 2.6 blocks per game last season.

C: Primoz Brezec
- Averaged 5 points and 3 rebounds per game last season.

Bench: Sean May, Adam Morrison, Matt Carroll, Ryan Hollins, Othella Harrington, Jared Dudley, Alan Anderson, Derek Anderson, Jeff McInnis, Jermarrio Davidson, and Jake Voskhul.

With positions 1-4 being very good players, and a bench that has 3 guys averaging double figures, this should be a playoff team if everyone stays healthy... The talent is there and now Wallace/Richardson/Okafor provide 3 experienced stars....

Agree or disagree?

[ziggy]

C: Primoz Brezec
- Averaged 5 points and 3 rebounds per game last season.
Please... Lord.... no.

[Fromage]

Primoz... man we gotta do better there.

[thebigabd]

lol, yea I thought with the other guys on the floor he could just be tall out there.

Maybe Charlotte should make a move on Darko? He is a free agent and had a pretty good year for the Magic. He would be a guy that could come in, be tall, block shots, and rebound as he continues to get better.

[ziggy]

lol, yea I thought with the other guys on the floor he could just be tall out there.

Maybe Charlotte should make a move on Darko? He is a free agent and had a pretty good year for the Magic. He would be a guy that could come in, be tall, block shots, and rebound as he continues to get better.


Darko is definitely a step up from Primoz, If he weren't too much of a strain on our cap space, I could deal with him being our starting center.

[Edrow]

Agreed, except I think that Fabio deserves a spot on your roster too :biggrin:

As far as Darko goes, I could go for that. Brezec is horrid.

[jaxatax23]

haha yea primo is a scrub...but yea i like herrmann in our line up...what bout this:

PG- Felton
SG- JRich
SF- Herrmann
PF- Wallace
C- Okafor

Basically have 2 SF's out there...we wouldnt have to stick wallace on the block but that 5 is probably our most soilde line up...i also wouldnt mind looking into the darko signing

[jcstone07]

haha yea primo is a scrub...but yea i like herrmann in our line up...what bout this:

PG- Felton
SG- JRich
SF- Herrmann
PF- Wallace
C- Okafor

Basically have 2 SF's out there...we wouldnt have to stick wallace on the block but that 5 is probably our most soilde line up...i also wouldnt mind looking into the darko signing


I'm more partial to this:

PG - Felton
SG - J-Rich
SF - Wallace
PF - May
C - Okafor

[Mustachio]

haha yea primo is a scrub...but yea i like herrmann in our line up...what bout this:

PG- Felton
SG- JRich
SF- Herrmann
PF- Wallace
C- Okafor

Basically have 2 SF's out there...we wouldnt have to stick wallace on the block but that 5 is probably our most soilde line up...i also wouldnt mind looking into the darko signing


I'm more partial to this:

PG - Felton
SG - J-Rich
SF - Wallace
PF - May
C - Okafor


as much as people are gonna be shocked to hear me say this... i like may in the starting lineup

hes gonna give you a ton of points from that position when hes able to play.

of course he wont be able to play consistently, so you gotta think its gonna be a rotation of a bunch of player in the front court.

[Dead_Real]

I agree Must if he can stay healthy I don't mind him in a starting role my line up would look something like this...

Felton
J-Rich
Crash
May
Okafor

Great line up overall I think.

[ziggy]

I agree with eaton and Mustachio tha May works well in the starting lineup next to Emeka, but with his injury history hes just too unreliable to count on.

[Defense]

^^^ Ditto

May is a player, I don't doubt that one bit...

I doubt his Knee, with it being a main support for his fat ass and I doubt his work ethic and desire to win. Hopefully I won't have to doubt these things this year, but we will see.

[tray]

After saying the Bobcats would pick Wright at #8, and then having the hunch that they would trade him, let me speak something else into existence.

The Jason Richardson trade does not work if the SF is Brian Morrison instead of Gerald Wallace. If you lose Wallace, you end up with the same situation you had last year basically, which is an athletic hustler in JRich playing beside a defensive liability in Adam Morrison.

Will the Bobcats even try to re-sign Gerald Wallace and put Adam Morrison out of the line up in the name of "WINNING" with the best line up, or will the bow to the "put seats in the stands" people yet again and choose to keep Adam Morrison instead of paying Gerald Wallace what's he's worth?

I say that if the Bobcats do not get someone like Rashad Lewis in free agency, then the Bobcats will look for a trade for a big man, and Adam Morrison and Sean May are the two lottery picks on the team who are the least safe.

Without Wallace, the Richardson trade was a waste of time.

Felton
Richardson
Wallace
Rashad Lewis
Emeka Okafor

Get rid of Primo Brezec as fast as you got rid of Brevin Knight.

[dav7z]

I read on the magic site about a week ago that Darko was wanting to get a five year 50 mil contract. With Wallace and OK50 to resign i dont think our cap can stand it.And i don't think hes worth it.

[dav7z]

I want you guys to see the wrighting on the wall . We drafted Dudley as a back up three and hes solid enough to be a back up. Marrison still has value and he makes about 3.5 milion. I look to see a packege of him and Primoz whos at about 2.7 milion to get a five. and hope we can stick Harrington in the deal to for cap relief for a team. Two favorable contracts and a 3rd pick in last years draft who can score. SO i look to see us pick up a five that is worth about six milion a year for the next 3 or 4 years. I All so look to see us go cheap on a back up point mabe a undrafted player . Mcinnis is gone too with a veteran min at 2.1 milion fo some one like him.

[Mustachio]

i like the current team myself

i dont know of any bigs out there, that id shed our future for.
i mean at least any that could be traded.

I say resign the FA's and lets run out on the court with this lineup... see how it goes and save money for a player next year to finish the puzzle. I think no matter who we bring in, were too young to win a championship right now. so lets take this team and some money through the year, gain experience and then see what we got.

[dvdbumpus]

I agree Must if he can stay healthy I don't mind him in a starting role my line up would look something like this...

Felton
J-Rich
Crash
May
Okafor

Great line up overall I think.


Agreed. Walter can spell May. Adam or J-rich can sub for Crash. Matt can sub for J-rich or Crash. Crash can play damn near anywhere.

Just remember guys, our entire lineup is as versatile as the NE Patriots, so nothing is set in stone with the exception of Felton being exclusively at the Point.


No way we go after Rashard Lewis. We don't need him now. Jamison would be the only expensive new option we would even consider at this point in time.

[tamburello]

After J-Rich's arrival and potential Wallace and Okafor signs, I don't think we'll pay Carroll something around 4 millions averaging.

My solution at PF is Chris Wilcox. May+Primoz+future 1st rounder that I'm willing to give up. Sonics may want to part with him because he occupies same position with Durant. But I'm sure Sonics would demand the local boy Morrison as well.

If that happens:
Felton
Richardson
Wallace
Wilcox
Okafor

but that thins our bench depth. Only legitimate man would be Herrmann off the bench.

In the current team, I'd like to see Primoz starting and taking 25-30. He is not a scrap. He is a really good offensive player. Last year's Primoz wasn't the real Primoz, we all know.

[ziggy]

My solution at PF is Chris Wilcox. May+Primoz+future 1st rounder that I'm willing to give up. Sonics may want to part with him because he occupies same position with Durant. But I'm sure Sonics would demand the local boy Morrison as well.

Tamburello, I think your biggest concern is the same as mine. If we play Emeka at center, we MUST find some help for Emeka in the paint. May isn't reliable enough, Othella is too old, and all of the other bigs are too young.
Wilcox would be a nice fit, I would love to get him without giving up a future 1st round pick though.

[thebigabd]

Why? Chris Wilcox is worth a first round pick... Wilcox and Okafor would be animals in the paint.

[dav7z]

Thats why we drafted Dudley. Morison is as good as gone . May makes next to nothing so he stays.
So its Morison who has VALUE and Primoz. and a expiring contract of Harington for cap relief. No first rounders
mabe a second. Thats over 8 milion thair. For say a Wilcox.
That gives us
1 Felton. Jack. UNDRAFTED PLAYER
2 J-Rich, Carol, A. Anderson
3 Wallace. , Dudley. with the twos all so being able to play the three position.
4. Wilcox, Walter, , Davidson
5. OK50, Jake , Hollins,
Then we need two cheap Back up points aT least one undrafted player. Could thade may for someone like Jered Jack. Im a carolina fan and a Morrison fan but i want a winning team more.
That might just win the east this year. very balanced team once we get rid of Morison and May its no need to have them any more fill them with pieces thet fit.

[Mustachio]

haha i dont think we need to go crazy... if we keep this up we wont have any of the same players.

We need to keep our core. were constantly improving, new coach, new star.. and we havent lost our core. Morrison started pretty damn good last year, and lost his legs later and wasnt a factor and i think had a fallin out with Bernie.
Giving him up would be a big mistake... i think.

plus id have to get a new name for this board, and im not prepared for that trauma.

[dvdbumpus]

I doubt the Sonics are really interested in Morrison, besides nostalgically. They just drafted KD, Jeff Green, and recieved another forward in Wally(not saying much). After all this, there's the possibility(small as it is) that Lewis returns as well.


With that in mind, I predict that Matt will be the primary J-rich backup. Adam will be the primary Crash backup. With the flexibility of the lineup I predict about 25ish minutes from both.

[tray]

I doubt the Sonics are really interested in Morrison, besides nostalgically. They just drafted KD, Jeff Green, and recieved another forward in Wally(not saying much). After all this, there's the possibility(small as it is) that Lewis returns as well.


With that in mind, I predict that Matt will be the primary J-rich backup. Adam will be the primary Crash backup. With the flexibility of the lineup I predict about 25ish minutes from both.


If you are going to keep Morrison, a #3 pick last year, just to be a back up player, what's the point of having him. Good-bye Morrison if the Bobcats resign Wallace. IF they don't resign Wallace, they can still pick up Rashard Lewis in free agency and let him play the three, and still get rid of Morrison.

The J-Rich effect is neutralized if you have Adam Morrison at the #3. You need an athletic 3 to play beside him. Morrison doesn't fit the bill. Hermann or Morrison, I doubt they'd keep both of them, and that "they have to win now" mentality should say that Hermann is more prepared to contribute than Morrison is.

The Bobcats won more games last year than any 3rd year team in NBA history, so I'm frankly sick and tired of hearing people dog them saying, "these guys have to start winning." Well idiotic logic, based on 3rd year NBA teams, they have "started winning."

[jaxatax23]

yea i agree...i dont think we should keep both herrmann an morrison...herrmann did so much better than morrison...he has putting up points consistantly AND playing good DEFENSE!...so i say we package morrison an a pick for either a solid PF or PG

[dnbman]

The J-Rich effect is neutralized if you have Adam Morrison at the #3. You need an athletic 3 to play beside him.


While I think we're keeping Wallace, I don't think if we lose him it diminishes J-Rich's value. Of course, losing Wallace would change our dynamic. But, J-Rich is a shooter who can hit threes. That's a big plus for us since only Carroll has been able to do that for us at the 2 spot. Hermann could step in be our 3 with Morrison and Dudley backing him up.

However, I think we're going to move Morrison too. I think he needs to go to a team who can nurture him a bit more. We don't need him at this point. Hopefully that secret Portland trade will see us sending them Morrison for one of their bigs.

[dvdbumpus]

I would love one of Portland's bigs...hell I'd love Tyrus Thomas.

I don't think that Morrison is gone, but is probably never going to be a starter on our team. I know he's definitely got the potential to be great...in a different style of offense. I've bashed him before, but I think he can be successful.

On another note, J-rich doesn't NEED to be in a run and gun system to be successful. He's very versatile so if Adam is on the floor, we can run half court sets with him and not be limited. See his Michigan State years and the style of offense, while he was still very successful. He's not just a system guy.

[x2pacalypse]

i just realized...im pretty sure crash will be staying with us...he owes this franchise a lot...and he knows this...so if he wanted to go elsewhere he would have at least done us the favor of not opting out...and being trade bait

[TheBeagle]

The Jason Richardson trade does not work if the SF is Brian Morrison instead of Gerald Wallace. If you lose Wallace, you end up with the same situation you had last year basically, which is an athletic hustler in JRich playing beside a defensive liability in Adam Morrison.

Brian Morrison?!?!? ARRGGGGHH The human turnover!!!!! Having....flashbacks of....Matt Doherty....8-20.....Adam Boone.....Dear lord, never mention that name again, accidently or not!!

Now that I'm reasonably recovered, I agree, GW is THE must sign for this franchise. The trade will have indeed been a waste of time, and we will win less than 33 games if we don't have GW, I guarantee that!! Because it's in Bob's hands, I'm still nervous, but it should be a slam-dunk signing without much worry, should being the operative word.

[Mustachio]

Morrison isnt going anywhere. Morrison had a great start to the season. Hermann had a crappy start. Morrison had a crappy end of the season, Hermann had a good end. Meanwhile, back at the arena... Morrison is one of the most popular figures there. You see mustaches, signs, and people who come to the games just to see him. he sells tickets, hes not goin anywhere.

Tray, "whats the point in having a #3 draft pick sitting on the bench" because not every first round pick blows it up in his first year. And if hes a bench guy that gives us 30 minutes a game, sells tickets, gets fans... hes worth every penny. HE WILL BE FINE... dont forget he had a good start to the season, people wanna write him off as a bust, without any substantial evidence. Wait till you see what he can do with the new coach, a new set role, a new team before you say anything about him. knee-jerk reactions on a player in his first year, makes you a terrible GM. if people reacted like that you wouldnt have such greats now as Dirk, Nash, Billups... two MVPs and a world champion PG, none of which were good for maybe their first 2-3 years. im glad your not running this team.

[Beekizzle]

Best Line Up would be

PG: Felton
SG: Richardson
SF: Herrmann
PF: Wallace
C: Okafor


That is a playoff line up. If we cant re-sign G-Force, I would like the team to make a run at Bibby.

[timang]

Best Line Up would be

PG: Felton
SG: Richardson
SF: Herrmann
PF: Wallace
C: Okafor


That is a playoff line up. If we cant re-sign G-Force, I would like the team to make a run at Bibby.


beekizzle, i would interchange crash and fabio on the idea that herrmann can play on the post w/out having to injure himself, thus allowing crash to play his natural position. if we could get a good big to play the PF position, the better.

also, welcome aboard!

[Beekizzle]

Thanks for the welcome...


I just figure putting Wallace at the 4 would allow him to get on the boards with Okafor. I am not sold on Herrmann and rebounding as of yet