Merged: The *cross your fingers for a Crash resigning* thread [Archive]

tamburello

07-01-2007, 10:33 AM

timang

07-01-2007, 10:44 AM

I'm keeping my fingers crossed, and Marc Stein says: "The Mavericks' No. 1 target in free agency? Folks in Dallas might have been expecting Mavs killer Matt Barnes, but I'm told it's actually Charlotte's Gerald Wallace."

Whom they can offer us? Please do your best Mr. Jordan. Keep Wallace.

oh no, not the mavs. hell no. hope fully jrich can talk him out of that like "man, remember last year's playoffs? they lost to my team in only the first round! don't do it!"

*fingers crossed* resign Gerald! resign!

Dunk

07-01-2007, 11:06 AM

Hopefully those stories about Crash wanting to stay are true. I have to think we'll show him the money. He's the lynchpin of the team. Plus, he's just hitting his prime. Hopefully a 4/40 keeps him here.

spectre

07-01-2007, 11:15 AM

Sweating bullets. Did you guys see the charlotte.com reporter saying a source is telling him Crash's house is up for sale? Gawd I hope that's BS.

Dallas worries me too. Cuban will spend anything to get what he wants.

ziggy

07-01-2007, 11:22 AM

Sweating bullets. Did you guys see the charlotte.com reporter saying a source is telling him Crash's house is up for sale? Gawd I hope that's BS.

I almost coughed up my breakfast this morning when I read that... I hope like hell that MJ, Bernie, and Vincent were camped out on his doorstep last night waiting to hit the doorbell when the clock struck midnight.

dvdbumpus

07-01-2007, 11:24 AM

Crash to be a backup to Josh Howard? Like hell he will be.

Dead_Real

07-01-2007, 11:36 AM

Crash to be a backup to Josh Howard? Like hell he will be.

Yea thats the only thing that keeps me from thinking he wont sign with them.

spectre

07-01-2007, 11:37 AM

I said the same on RealGM and Dallas fans quickly came back that they feel Howard can play the 2.

I might have to be an ass and demand Howard back in a S&T...I definitely wouldn't Terry, who's supposedly the guy they're shopping.

x2pacalypse

07-01-2007, 01:00 PM

if crash doesn't resign somebody is gonna get murked

so are we not able to find out until july 11th? or will a verbal agreement be reached before then?

and spectre did u post on bobcatsfans.com?

WarioVsMooChicken

07-01-2007, 01:29 PM

If we don't get Wallace back then we can say goodbye to any playoff hopes that are any better then 8th seed.

spectre

07-01-2007, 01:31 PM

Tupac yeah, til it got hacked out of existence the night before the draft. Don't know what's going to happen in the future, if anything.

I'm hoping we get some info...news is already out about Detroit's offer to Billups (it's a little over 14 for 4). Normally you'd think we'd hear something, but I can't honestly say that if we don't hear anything til the 11th that it's bad...the new regime has been good at keeping things quiet.

I want to know though! I doubt I can take 10 days of this.

rallydurham

07-01-2007, 03:34 PM

TheBeagle

07-02-2007, 12:22 AM

I wouldn't get too worked up over this fellas.

We're basically the only team that can pony up the $ for him...

The only way we'd lose him would probably be through a sign and trade which means we'd be getting an asset back for him.

Surely MJ isn't stupid enough to take Jason Terry for Gerald Wallace. That wouldn't go over well...
Rally is dead-on here. Our only enemy is Bob Johnson. We can match and exceed anybody's best offer, and I have no doubt GW wants to stay here, so it's all in Bob's hands. If for some reason GW would rather play in Dallas, then the sign-and-trade must include Josh or Dirk, and there is no way in hell that will happen. You're correct, MJ WILL NOT take JET or Devin Harris or anybody but Josh or Dirk for GW.

Once again, our only potential enemy here is Bob. My opinon is, if he won't pay GW to keep him here, then maybe that should be a clue that we're pulling for the wrong team. Depending on the circumstances, I'm going to seriously consider dropping the Bobcats if GW isn't on the roster for the forseeable future.

TheBeagle

07-02-2007, 12:35 AM

Here's The Dallas Morning News' viewpoint on GW:

Dallas Morning News article (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/070207dnspomavslede.2b09eab.html)

If Bumpus or Ziggy, or anybody who knows how to do such electronic wizardry, wants to make this a web-link, more power to you. Otherwise, a good old fashioned copy/paste will do.

Keetch

07-02-2007, 04:42 AM

Well at least this reporter knows the contract information, even if he doesn't otherwise seem to know basketball well..

"It will be difficult to get anything done with Wallace. Most insiders believe he will stay with Charlotte even though the Bobcats last week traded for Jason Richardson, who plays the same position as Wallace."

As I'm sure ALL of you on this board know, Wallace and JRich do not play the same position. Sheesh. Really, there are very few paper reporters out there with an in-depth grasp of the NBA; thank goodness for the bloggers.

Fromage

07-02-2007, 03:31 PM

He'll be the last signing... with that whole "Larry Bird" thing, right?

rallydurham

07-02-2007, 05:30 PM

I don't see Dallas happening. I can't imagine they'd be willing to give up Dirk or Josh Howard for Gerald Wallace.

I highly doubt we'd be interested in Dampier, Terry, etc...

The only legitimate deal we'd consider is Wallace for Devin Harris and Diop. That would give us a pretty quality lineup with Felton, Harris, Richardson, Okafor, Diop...

Harris would cost just as much as Wallace 2 years from now and Diop would probably get a full midlevel from someone though... so i dont see how that deal saves us much money and we'd lose a fan favorite....

Orlando wants Rashard Lewis and no one else can match 10 mil per season. Wallace is a bobcat next year unless we get an offer we cant refuse from someone...

Keetch

07-02-2007, 10:32 PM

Ziggy: "For the time being, there is nothing more important than getting Crash signed."

I don't want Devin Harris. I don't want Josh Howard. I want Gerald Wallace to stay a Bobcat. I truly think that he is undervalued at $10M per year (by bizarre NBA values) and would happily see the Cats pay him more if they need too.

I've seen enough of Gerald Wallace to appreciate the guys passion for the game. I love his tenacity, heart, tremendous talent and still emerging game. We say we need veteran leadership, a go-to guy and all that; and
Crash sits there... who is becoming all that and more before our eyes.

Really folks; Gerald Wallace is a freaking stud. I don't even want to think about him playing anywhere else. Don't screw with this MJ. Get it done before it slips away.

Dead_Real

07-02-2007, 11:37 PM

Bernie and MJ keep saying Matt and Crash want to be here in Charlotte lets hope we hear some positive news later on today.

Not sure if this was posted already no good news besides Bernie's comments.

http://www.charlotte.com/bobcats/story/182665.html

TheBeagle

07-03-2007, 03:22 AM

Sam Vincent on the GW situation; his anxiety is as palpable as ours!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/basketball/nba/07/02/bc.bkn.busybobcats.ap/

DaFlameking

07-04-2007, 05:43 PM

Like michael jordan told all his bobcat fans in the letter, we want things done sooner for the team, well this is the time. Sign G-Force, G-Dub, GW, Crash back and we WILL have something done next season and become a playoff contender.

All positives so far. We just have to wait till both bobcats staff and gerald talk and finalize a deal ;D

same with matt carroll as well

spectre

07-04-2007, 05:58 PM

Starting to see some daylight I think!

http://www.gastongazette.com/sports/carroll_6619___article.html/contract_bobcats.html

Meanwhile, sources within the Bobcats organization are getting more and more hopeful an announcement will soon be made on the re-signing of Wallace.

Wallace has received interest from at least eight teams, including the Bobcats, but the recent agreements made by Orlando and Milwaukee have lessened the cap space those teams have. And officials for both the Bobcats and for Wallace have said recently they are having productive discussions and could be moving closer to a deal.

BTW, check out the gaston gazette...they have 3 new articles...and USAToday has a good one talking about Felts taking over. They're all interviews/snippets from the summer league camp yesterday.

Hearing nothing but cricket noises over at the Observer...

Dead_Real

07-04-2007, 06:23 PM

Thanks for the news spectre

ziggy

07-04-2007, 09:10 PM

Here (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/bobcats/2007-07-03-felton_N.htm) is the link to the USA Today article concerning Felton that Spectre mentioned.

DaFlameking

07-06-2007, 10:09 AM

we should all make "SIGN GERALD NOW" posters and send em to the bobcats staff or email it to them to get them to finish the deal TODAY! im tired of waiting =x

TheBeagle

07-07-2007, 12:41 AM

I agree, flame. The longer this goes on, the less likely I believe he's coming back. It really shouldn't be taking this long. He knows we desperately want him back, he's said he wants to be here, then what's going on? I'm speculating that it is money. I figure the Magic screwed us by signing Lewis to that ridiculously-absurd (and absurdly-ridiculous) over-inflated max contract. I think that because the Magic gave Lewis so much money, GW and Pelinka believe (and for good reason) they should get a similar deal becuase GW is the much better complete player. I'm thinking it'll take at least $13M per now, all thanks to Orlando's incompetence. MJ and Bernie are going to have to turn on their salesmen charm to get Bob to pony-up it looks like :-\

As you can tell, my confidence in getting GW back is not what it was a week ago :(

Grandmama

07-07-2007, 09:15 AM

Really? There's no one left to pay him other than us and maybe Milwaukee. If they want a sign and trade it has to go through us. If the market isn't there, and it may not be, then he is going to have to take what he gets. I have to think that something has been agreed upon or at least is pretty close. I don't know though

This is what Bonnell said about it yesterday
http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2007/07/chances-of-re-s.html

Like Tupac said, "keep your head up."

This also may bring the price down, Chauncey at 12 mil per year.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2928321

ALong13

07-07-2007, 01:41 PM

TheBeagle

07-07-2007, 11:55 PM

J-Rich is said to be moving to SG from what I've heard and Wallace would take SF. Wallace will resign, no other team can give more than the MLE which is somewhere around 6 million. Charlotte could sign him to a 6 year 54-56 million dollar contract, and it should be a done deal, I don't see Charlotte doing a S&T with anyone unless it's for a person of equal of greater talent of Wallace...
6@54-56?!? That would be a magnificent signing for us, but it would be a slap in the face for GW, I think. If Lewis is going to average $15M per, we should at least give him $12M per. That said, if he's cool with $9M per, all the better for the franchise's long-term cap room! Maybe they'll wait until the 11th, and announce a deal when it can be finalized.

x2pacalypse

07-08-2007, 02:53 AM

july 9th...its gonna happen then i can feel it

Mustachio

07-08-2007, 03:00 AM

http://www.journaltimes.com/nucleus/index.php?blogid=24

-- MORE FREE AGENT NEWS: Harris confirmed what The Journal Times reported on the first day of free agency: that he has inquired about both Desmond Mason and Gerald Wallace.

Harris wouldn’t go into details, only to say that he had conversations with the agents for both players. The scuttlebutt is Wallace is seeking a contract that averages around $8 million a season.

if thats the case, we are gonna end up straight stealing Gerald..

if teams are worried about an 8 million per contract, i think we can steal him for 9 million and go on about the business.

ziggy

07-08-2007, 07:33 AM

:yeahthat:
9 million for a player like Crash is a steal. He should fire his agent if thats all that he winds up with... after he signs for 6 years with the Bobcats of course :biggrin:

spectre

07-08-2007, 08:34 AM

Charlotte acquired Jason Richardson (and $51 million in salary commitments) last week. This week, the Bobcats and Matt Carroll agreed in principle on a $27 million deal. And those around the Bobcats expect to re-sign Gerald Wallace very soon to a contract worth more than $60 million.

From the Gaston Gazette.

That's just BS out of Milwaukee. They're trying to rationalize on how they could steal Crash from us.

ALong13

07-08-2007, 09:11 AM

Actually 9 million a year isn't too suirprising, no other team can offer more than the MLE which is between 5.8 -6 million, so I wouldn't be too surprised to see a 9 million per year deal coming around...

ALong13

07-08-2007, 09:13 AM

I hope it's before the 12th at least, because from the 12th-16th I'm without computer axcess, so I won't be able to see crap...

timang

07-08-2007, 10:21 AM

we better not get any more rumors... :(

i'm getting awfully uncomfortable the longer he stays on the market!

Edrow

07-08-2007, 11:14 AM

Likewise tadsz,

The more this gets drawn out the more I start to get paranoid that something fishy is going on. Just sign him already.

-Edrow

ziggy

07-08-2007, 11:25 AM

I strongly agree Edrow, It shouldn't take 8 days of negotiations (so far) to reach an agreement with Gerald. Logically I realize like others are saying that there isn't anyone out there that can outbid us, but paranoia is starting to creep in. :-\

rallydurham

07-08-2007, 12:07 PM

Relax...

the longer we wait the more we drive his market value down and the less we will have to offer him.

Once he realizes that his true market value is only about $7 million (since no one has any cap room) he will be happier to settle for the ~10 million we offer him.

Also, we might still be looking to acquire one more free agent which means we have to sign them first before we can sign Wallace.

Trust me, theres no way we would have re-signed Matt Carroll if we weren't going to re-sign Wallace. It wouldn't make sense to throw so much money at a backup SG if we weren't planning on re-signing our star player for $9-$10....

twebb

07-08-2007, 02:16 PM

Today I have been getting a lot of emails from my friends saying that they heard from friends-others that he is signing a 6 year / 60 million deal that progresses from around 8.5 mil the first year. Sorry don't have any sources but it is just the buzz i've been hearing

jaxatax23

07-08-2007, 05:31 PM

yea rally makes some good points...i was paranoid to but i agree with rally when he says why would we pay carroll all that money if we werent sure we could get wallace back

dnbman

07-08-2007, 05:36 PM

We can't drive the price down to low. He could go sign an MLE with another team and then cash in the year after. If it's the difference in a million or two per year, he probably wouldn't risk it. But it nets him an extra 3-4 million a year, playing on a contender, he might.

I don't think he'll drop that low though. I also don't think that's what's holding up the signing. My guess is there's a million dollar per year swing each way, and both sides are just making sure they're doing the right thing.

ziggy

07-08-2007, 06:43 PM

AOL's NBA fanhouse just made a blog entry today discussing Gerald Wallace and where he might end up:

Read it here: (http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/07/08/so-where-is-gerald-wallace-going/)

In the entry they throw out some mysterious 3 team trade involving the Dallas Mavericks thats being discussed. I believe that its just BS, but has anyone else heard any rumors of a 3 team deal in the works involving Crash?

Keetch

07-08-2007, 07:05 PM

...just another blogger with a Josh Howard for Gerald Wallace deal and the now standard comment about Howard being the better player ... ugh please Crash sign so we can put this stuff away...

Hopefully the Mavs will listen to their fans and leave Crash alone. I'd hate to have them lose their beloved Josh Howard, really I would hate that. Gerald Wallace > Josh Howard totally, not the least of which is hops and entertainment value.

ALong13

07-08-2007, 07:21 PM

If Wallace is traded for a guy like Howard I'd be so pissed off...

EDIT: Here is something else on a possible trade, doesn't so who for, but it says that they are trying it...

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/070807dnspomoore.3775357.html

It's about halfway down...

Beekizzle

07-08-2007, 09:00 PM

Trust me, theres no way we would have re-signed Matt Carroll if we weren't going to re-sign Wallace. It wouldn't make sense to throw so much money at a backup SG if we weren't planning on re-signing our star player for $9-$10....

I agree 100%. But I am still uneasy

ALong13

07-08-2007, 09:14 PM

Huge Update guys...and a good one too...

NOTES: The team remains hopeful of re-signing coveted free agent Gerald Wallace. A source close to the negotiations said Sunday they were confident the Bobcats and Wallace would strike a deal by the end of the week.... Veteran Emeka Okafor worked out with the Bobcats during much of the mini-camp. He's eligible to receive a contract extension off his rookie contract, but said he didn't expect any negotiations to take place until contracts with Wallace and Matt Carroll are resolved. Carroll's agent Paul Nadel said last week that his client had agreed to a six-year contract with Charlotte for $27 million.... Sean May, who has missed 106 of the first 164 games of his two-year NBA career due to knee injuries, is confident his troubles are behind him. May, who watched some of the team's drills, said he expected to be cleared to play in time for the start of the team's training camp in October.... Among some of the free agents on the Bobcats' summer roster are former North Carolina teammates Jackie Manuel and Jawad William's and former Virginia standout Elton Brown. Manuel and Williams were teammates of current Bobcats Raymond Felton and Sean May on UNC's 2005 national championship team.

Nice to see that it's getting closer, but until it's a done deal, I want rest easy....

pree

07-09-2007, 05:37 AM

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_22671.shtml

I can't confirm it .. but I can say it is very close.

rallydurham

07-09-2007, 07:08 AM

This couldnt go in one of the 18 threads already created?

Mustachio

07-09-2007, 08:52 AM

thanks pree, good news no matter what thread its in.

Edrow

07-09-2007, 09:07 AM

Agreed! Thanks pree! This could be in the "Happy Birthday Wishes" thread and it would still be good news. What a way to start a week!

-Edrow

Mother was a mudder

07-09-2007, 09:50 AM

:afro: Yes, We will be kicking ass in no time!

ammofan

07-09-2007, 09:58 AM

Yesssssssss! CAN'T WAIT!

ALong13

07-09-2007, 10:03 AM

Hope this is true, and hopefully we have a little bit of money left to go sign a backup point guard...

dav7z

07-09-2007, 10:05 AM

Wallace must be close hears another report
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/47002/20070709/wallace_to_remain_in_charlotte_for_more_than_$60m/
Its not confirmed buts its another report we must be close

jaxatax23

07-09-2007, 10:36 AM

how many years yall think its for??

ALong13

07-09-2007, 10:37 AM

I'd say the max of 6....just over 10 million a year...

x2pacalypse

07-09-2007, 12:21 PM

6 years 68 mil methinks

Dead_Real

07-09-2007, 01:07 PM

The Observer and RealGM are reporting that he's expected to sign a 60+ mil contract hopefully it's confirmed before the day is over.

Wallace15

07-09-2007, 02:14 PM

Hells yeah :afro:

timang

07-09-2007, 08:50 PM

yeah baby yeah!

Xx6vhi9nFcg

oops, not that baby... hehe :biggrin:

x2pacalypse

07-09-2007, 10:43 PM

yeah baby yeah!

Xx6vhi9nFcg

oops, not that baby... hehe :biggrin:

omg hawtttt

i bet crash would hit that

123together

07-09-2007, 10:47 PM

HYPENESS!!!

Defense

07-09-2007, 11:02 PM

As usual Pree right on top of things, keep it up man.

TheBeagle

07-10-2007, 12:26 AM

Ditto what everyone else has posted (except for that misanthropic miser, rallydurham :mad: ) You're the best messenger this side of Paul Revere!! I'm very happy for GW; he deserves at least $10M per, I think more like $12M, but this is great great stuff!!!! Looks like my Lil' GW pic will be coming down soon :biggrin:

dvdbumpus

07-10-2007, 01:01 AM

If he has, I will be as excited as the retarted kid on the back of a school bus licking the window.

The shnozzberries taste like shnozzberries!

Shrimpy_Jackson

07-10-2007, 01:06 AM

If he has, I will be as excited as the retarted kid on the back of a school bus licking the window.

The shnozzberries taste like shnozzberries!

Mmmmmm.... shnozzberries.... but on a serious note. If he does sign, imagine the season after next.... the cats of Bob going deeeeeeeep into the playoffs, Jordan living it up as the new hipster who not only was a god (even though I hated him) as a player but as a Director of whatever the hell his title is as well. Ahhh sweetness, sweetness.

Shrimpcules

jaxatax23

07-10-2007, 09:25 AM

The same old same old...i hope this finally becomes official!

"Small forward Gerald Wallace (Charlotte) is the last of the upper-tier free agents yet to sign a deal. The Mavs, who would have to pull off a sign-and-trade to acquire Wallace because he'll command more than the midlevel exception, were one of about eight teams to contact his agent, Rob Pelinka, on the first day of free agency. But recent reports suggest that Wallace is closing in on a deal to stay in Charlotte. Multiple teams have been in negotiations for players in the next tier such as Mikki Moore (New Jersey), James Posey (Miami), Morris Peterson (Toronto), Joe Smith (Philadelphia), Darko Milicic (Orlando), Matt Barnes (Golden State) and P.J. Brown (Chicago). Fort Worth Star-Telegram"

http://www.hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

Proudiddy

07-10-2007, 10:50 AM

From the Fort Worth Star Telegram:

Small forward Gerald Wallace (Charlotte) is the last of the upper-tier free agents yet to sign a deal. The Mavs, who would have to pull off a sign-and-trade to acquire Wallace because he'll command more than the midlevel exception, were one of about eight teams to contact his agent, Rob Pelinka, on the first day of free agency.

But recent reports suggest that Wallace is closing in on a deal to stay in Charlotte. Multiple teams have been in negotiations for players in the next tier such as Mikki Moore (New Jersey), James Posey (Miami), Morris Peterson (Toronto), Joe Smith (Philadelphia), Darko Milicic (Orlando), Matt Barnes (Golden State) and P.J. Brown (Chicago).

dav7z

07-10-2007, 12:15 PM

It really sucks when you have to go to other team sites to get news about our players. Hell we as fans have no idea at what to and not to belive. News about Gerald from DALLAS ,What in the hell has happen to the Bobcats reporting any thing at all. We cant get a damn thing from our local team or the local media . The offical Bobcats site is all most useless. Thank god for this site . thanks Ziggy and members.

dav7z

07-10-2007, 03:23 PM

Is it ever going to be over. Im getting worried now damn.
http://www.charlotte.com/sports/story/191293.html

Dead_Real

07-10-2007, 03:28 PM

Is it ever going to be over. Im getting worried now damn.
http://www.charlotte.com/sports/story/191293.html

Beat me to it

dav7z

07-10-2007, 03:51 PM

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/detroit.htm

Prince is about the only one out of those three teams i would do a sign and trade for.dont even know if i would do that
No way we get Wade or ONEAL

http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

dav7z

07-10-2007, 08:53 PM

More on Wallace signing
http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2007/07/dominoes-pushin.html

ALong13

07-10-2007, 09:10 PM

They need to resign him ASAP, I'm still worried about this, and I've gotten so hyped up on resigning Wallace, I don't think I'd take Prince for him...

Tully

07-10-2007, 09:32 PM

LOL I saw Wallace at the Food Lion on Providence road tonight around 7. It was him and a guy who may be his little brother with two carts of groceries. He was driving a silver Excursion. I didn't say anything but whats up. I didn't want to bother him about the contract. But its interesting to see us worried about his future and him in there like a regular person making groceries.

At least we know he's not out taking Free Agent visits.

dnbman

07-10-2007, 09:37 PM

Did the food look more like it was for a house party or long trip? :g:

Tully

07-10-2007, 09:50 PM

Did the food look more like it was for a house party or long trip? :g:

Good question. But I can't answer that one. Just looked like groceries to me. lol

TheBeagle

07-10-2007, 11:26 PM

ALong13

07-11-2007, 12:11 AM

Well now that free agency signing has been open for 11 minutes, Crash you can sign now...please...hurry...

dvdbumpus

07-11-2007, 01:57 AM

Wallace! Sign damn you!!!

dav7z

07-11-2007, 07:42 AM

This may of been what we have been waiting on.The soft cap come out to day and it around 55 milion 600
I think do all this without geting into luxery tax.
1 . Sign Wallace starting at 9 or even 10 milion to a six year gig.
2. Sign Darko to a 7.5 to 8 mil contract for 3,4,5 years
3. Sign Davidson to a mim contract about 672k
4. sign two good points from summer league at 672 k
We will still be just below the 55 milion 600k.
5. Hard cap is 67 milion so that alows us to sign OK50 to a six year starting at 12 milion per year .
All this can be done and still stay out of the lux tax.
We will just have to look at point guard the next year.
1 . Felton , point , point.
2. J- rich, Carroll,Morrison
3. Wallace, Dudley,
4. OK50, May, Walter,Davidson
5. Darko, Premoz, Hollins,
Contracts
Rich 4 years , Wallace 6 years , OK50 six years, Darko up to five years. Resign Felton next year after contracts expire and we set for the next four years.

Mustachio

07-11-2007, 08:45 AM

can darko run at all.... like is he gonna fit into this teams offense?

im kinda on board to sign him, just so no one else can get him. haha

ALong13

07-11-2007, 10:21 AM

Are Bobcats actually interested in Darko, we need to sign a point guard as well though....

ziggy

07-11-2007, 12:36 PM

They've been officiating for 10 days, Today players can officially be signed and the 2007-2008 cap number has been set. But nothing is done yet, whic side do you think is playing hardball? Are Gerald's people asking for a max (or close to max ) deal or are Bernie, MJ and company trying to lowball Crash into something barely above the MLE since there isn't really anyone else left that can outbid them?

What are your thoughts?

ziggy

07-11-2007, 12:41 PM

Merged the Crash resigning threads :biggrin:

dav7z

07-11-2007, 01:06 PM

No i just think we have been waiting on the cap to come out to make our moves. I think the deal for Wallace has been done for a long while now . We have been tight liped about next moves waiting on the cap to come out . Now thet it is i expect us to get a point and or a big to go along with Wallace now thet we know how much we can spend

Mustachio

07-11-2007, 01:13 PM

how hilarious is it, that Orlando and Charlotte both had tons of cap space.... Orlando goes out and spends 126 freaking million dollars on a player, while we wont spend more than 60 on Gerald and we will get similiar if not better production.

We can make moves next year, while Orlando is toast... between Howard and Lewis... they have like 9 dollars and 44 cents left for the next 3 years.

GSUEagle

07-11-2007, 04:41 PM

http://www.charlotte.com/bobcats/story/193233.html

Its a great day!

jaxatax23

07-11-2007, 04:44 PM

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! :biggrin:

nckat291

07-11-2007, 04:45 PM

Why is this a good thing?

WarioVsMooChicken

07-11-2007, 04:46 PM

Now I can stop worrying.

dav7z

07-11-2007, 04:48 PM

Great news Wallace signs . Had a feeling thats what that stupid artical was about. I s that offical. It kinda sounds like it. A smaller contract than i thought . Great job M.J and BERNIE.

jaxatax23

07-11-2007, 04:48 PM

Why is this a good thing?

Ur obviouzly not a bobcat fan if ud ask a dumbass question like that

Beekizzle

07-11-2007, 04:48 PM

No Doubt! I can't wait until Nov!

Lets got Bobcat fans! We have a squad to deal with now!

terrapin97

07-11-2007, 04:48 PM

Nice....playoffs next year and beyond....

Beekizzle

07-11-2007, 04:49 PM

Now I wish I would ahve picked up one of those authentic Wallace jerseys at the end of the season. :(

Slam

07-11-2007, 04:51 PM

I just cried a little...............and I bet I wasn't the only one!!

HAPPY DAYS!!!

x2pacalypse

07-11-2007, 04:51 PM

my post didnt show up

anyways lets just say im "over-elated" =-O

Beekizzle

07-11-2007, 04:56 PM

Congrats to Bernie and MJ for getting this done! Thanks for opening the wallet Bob!

dvdbumpus

07-11-2007, 04:58 PM

Orlando just got pwned!!! Great signing guys!!

Dead_Real

07-11-2007, 05:14 PM

About damn time

chabber

07-11-2007, 06:10 PM

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

ALong13

07-11-2007, 06:18 PM

YESSSSSSSS! Great sign, about damn time and thanks Bernie and MJ for getting this done, J-Rich, Carroll, Wallace, what's happened? I think MJ lost his golf touch lol....

Cantgetright

07-11-2007, 06:34 PM

Awesome. It is a steal of a deal aswell. Wow!!! I'm so excited to see this team play next season.

twebb

07-11-2007, 07:07 PM

Its great seeing us get him for under 10 mil. It turns out that the time they took was in our favor. Does anyone know how this puts us with the cap???

pree

07-11-2007, 07:23 PM

Well, I thought it was going to be a little bit more than this, but there was never anything for you guys to worry about!

ziggy

07-11-2007, 07:30 PM

Whew.... We are officially a LOCK for the 2007-2008 playoffs :rock:

Dead_Real

07-11-2007, 07:35 PM

Front office gets major props from me J-Rich, Wallace and Hammer for 6 and to solid rookies in Dudley Do Right and Super J all we need now is vet PG for this offseason to be amazing (not that it already isn't)

Beekizzle

07-11-2007, 08:20 PM

all we need now is vet PG for this offseason to be amazing (not that it already isn't)

I might be partial because I am from Maryland but we can get Francis for CHEAP

http://devlin.olsza.krakow.pl/~misiek/francis6.jpg

Think how sick that would be. He just got 30 mil from Portland and his value is super low.

Dunk

07-11-2007, 08:29 PM

This is a great move by the front office. Man, we are in real good shape going into this season.

ALong13

07-11-2007, 08:32 PM

I'm 50/50 on Francis, I think he could go a lot cheaper, but he probably wants to start, and right now I watch Felton, I'd rather sign a true veteran back-up, plus francis can become a ball hog at times...

Beekizzle

07-11-2007, 08:37 PM

moved comment to another post. Go Cats

Mustachio

07-11-2007, 09:20 PM

dnbman

07-11-2007, 09:30 PM

I can think of 57 million reasons not to feel sorry for Crash.

I love him, but we really needed a sensible deal here.

Edrow

07-11-2007, 09:55 PM

What a great move by the B-Cats front office. I think they are really showing the fans that they want the team to win just as much as we do. Next year is going to be sick! I can't wait!

-Edrow

123together

07-11-2007, 10:44 PM

http://www.charlotte.com/456/story/193474.html

6 years, 57 million

6th year is a player option

this is awesome!!!

ALong13

07-11-2007, 10:47 PM

lol this has been posted in like 2 other threads lol...and then they were merged into the already merged "Cross your fingers for a Crash resigning" thread...

timang

07-11-2007, 11:50 PM

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! !!!!!!

I'M SOOOOOOOOOO HAPPPPPPPPPPPY I'LL FORGIVE MYSELF FROM FORGETTING TO PUT THE CAPS LOCK OFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL :afro:

WOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wootjump:

best news eva!
congrats!

WarioVsMooChicken

07-11-2007, 11:51 PM

I have a good feeling for a 60+ win season.

dvdbumpus

07-11-2007, 11:52 PM

I have a good feeling for a 60+ win season.

Don't get ahead of yourself man. I'll be happy for 45 wins and a playoff spot.

WarioVsMooChicken

07-12-2007, 12:05 AM

Oops I meant 50.

>_>

TheBeagle

07-12-2007, 12:19 AM

Congrats to Bernie and MJ for getting this done! Thanks for opening the wallet Bob!
Couldn't have said it better myself! Many thanks to go around. I'm proud of MJ for putting the pressure on Bob, and for Bob to have the faith in MJ to listen to him and spend the money (an incredible value!!). If it weren't for Bernie, GW wouldn't have been here in the first place, and probably wouldn't be the Crash that we know today! This is just phenomenal!!!! Rob Pelinka is my favorite Michigan alumn!! Plus, I get to keep my auto cards on display!! JUBILATION!!!!!

Regarding another thread, looks like I'm in the market for a Crash jersey!

TheBeagle

07-12-2007, 12:33 AM

I almost feel bad for Crash... that seems kinda low thinking back on it.
what an offseason!... get the scorer we need, resigned the players we need... all why not crippling ourselves cap wise.

Way to go Orlando, sign half the player for twice as much.

Agree, Must. I always thought GW was worth 12-13M per, basing that on the horrendous Lewis 15M per deal. I think it illustrates a couple of points:

1. GW really DOES like it here!
2. GW is as much of a class act as we perceive him to be. He doesn't want to cripple us cap-wise, so he takes less than he's worth. Being an Astros fan, the analogy I see is like the contract Bagwell signed in '95. He signed a "hometown discount" to stay in Houston, but we rewarded him with a bigger contract in '00 I think it was. I hope we do this for GW after this contract. It would be the classy thing to do, plus he'd be able to retire a Bobcat!
3. MJ has something cooking for next year with that extra money that wasn't given to Crash. That's right, Bob, don't get too comfy counting the money you saved on Crash just yet :P In all seriousness, though, Bob really has come through for us this off-season.

TheBeagle

07-12-2007, 01:09 AM

Here's the AP of the signing with a good Pelinka quote, and an awesome end of the article!!! Looks like we know where our money saved from the "hometown discount" GW contract is going, and I couldn't be happier!!!!!!

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/2007-07-11-3606116655_x.htm

TheBeagle

07-12-2007, 01:21 AM

Very funny aol fan piece! Y'all should get a kick out of it :biggrin: How true it is!

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/07/11/rashard-lewis-wont-let-gerald-wallace-eat/

dnbman

07-12-2007, 01:37 AM

Very funny aol fan piece! Y'all should get a kick out of it :biggrin: How true it is!

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/07/11/rashard-lewis-wont-let-gerald-wallace-eat/

:biggrin:

timang

07-12-2007, 01:37 AM

Very funny aol fan piece! Y'all should get a kick out of it :biggrin: How true it is!

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/07/11/rashard-lewis-wont-let-gerald-wallace-eat/

loved it! rep up man. haha :biggrin:

x2pacalypse

07-12-2007, 01:55 AM

looks like my thread saved our lives

Mustachio

07-12-2007, 10:49 AM

i was gettin ready to run a thread entitled how stupid are the Orlando Magic and put Rashard and Crash's stats side by side to make them feel ridiculous.

But that chart should do the trick.

As much as we rib bernies coaching and face it.... we (myself very much included) gave him pure hell while he was coach. But man you gotta give this guy some credit... hes been the architect behind this team since the get go, and now Jordan comes in and starts getting most of the credit.

But Bernie, found this guy, built this team on hard work and team play, then made sure we kept him, at a very reasonable price. He has made a couple bone head moves, but hell thats gambling probally. Right now we have a very solid YOUNG, team that can grow together for years, and we are still not cap screwed. He deserves a lot of credit here.

DaFlameking

07-12-2007, 11:46 AM

yes. i was watching sportscenter and i saw rashad lewis on the ticker and i was like damn, still talking about him? and then i saw gerald wallace's name next and i was like could this BE?

YESSSSSS
WE GOT HIM BACK
When sportscenter was announcing, i couldnt stop smiling!!!!!

PLAYOFFS!!

dav7z

07-12-2007, 12:04 PM

I agree Bernie is great in his position . He knows talent and how to get the most for the money . But i would all so like to add with out M.J. and his final desinions to turn lose of the money none of us would be this happy. Vincent and M.J. AND Bernie did a great job with the two draft picks in Dudley and Davidson. It looks like to me the whole organisiton is turning around .
It seems like fresh air the last few weeks for the Charlotte Bobcats. Just look at all the new and welcome people who has joined our board the past three weeks .
I HOPE TO SEE PACKED OUT WILD CROUDS THIS YEAR.

Chris#3

07-12-2007, 12:08 PM

i'm so happy they finally sign him. Finally the J-rich and G-dub duo is going to happen. Funny thing is, just a few months ago I was telling a friend of mine that if J-rich comes to Charlotte and join Gerald, it'll be crazy. I guessed I jinx it. Oh well, it benefited me. J-rich and Wallace connection all day. Felton assist is going to sky rocket next season. Can't for the season to start. PLAYOFFS!!!! :biggrin:

dav7z

07-12-2007, 12:50 PM

Michee welcome to the board . Best Bobcats site thair is . So join in and have fun...... PLAYOFFS...........

Mustachio

07-12-2007, 01:12 PM

nothing would make me happier than the arena being as packed as the Coliseum was.
Those years the fans didnt need music, the blasted that joint with voices alone. It was like Golden State last year in the playoffs... Only we were a below .500 team and it was regular season.

Between Duke fans, and Tarheel fans and everyone in between... we should be loud every night.

Alex

07-12-2007, 08:54 PM

Between Duke fans, and Tarheel fans and everyone in between... we should be loud every night.

Great point, there are no excuses.

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YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!! Wallace for 6 more years!!! :D :D

DaFlameking

07-13-2007, 11:44 AM

is it just me or does it look like the web developer for the bobcats website doesnt like this deal and would not put up the excellent news on the bobcats news or the flash rotator. =/

dav7z

07-13-2007, 12:14 PM

They will the site is just that bad . They seem to allways be a week behind . I could't belive they put Darkos signing and picture over Wallace . They just plain stupid no wander we cant sell tickets ........

Alex

07-13-2007, 12:55 PM

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/sports.aol.com/fanhouse/media/2007/07/wallace_rashard_chart_tz.jpg

:D

Mustachio

07-13-2007, 12:56 PM

Wallace hasnt signed yet. they just reached an agreement. When the papers are signed, then they can make an official announcement.

believe me, that site loves this signing, they in fact love everything that happens. that site is a propaganda machine.
just look at the rave reviews they gave adam morrisons summer league action, when in truth it was just average.

they just cant say anything until its official and signed.

ziggy

07-13-2007, 05:48 PM

.. believe me, that site loves this signing, they in fact love everything that happens. that site is a propaganda machine.
You speaketh the truth Mustachio, Remember how they made a huge deal over the Othella Harrington signing a year ago? You would've thought that we had signed Tim Duncan.

rallydurham

07-13-2007, 05:53 PM

Getting Wallace re-signed for $9.5 million seems like very good value.

I'm glad the Bobcats waited one more year before they locked themselves into Wallace, I think everyone is a little more sold on him after the 2nd half of the season he had.

We just have to hope he stays healthy and continues to develop offensively. Also, he still has some work to do on defense as well. His steals/blocks numbers are certainly flashy but he's predominantly an "off the ball" defender and he still needs to get better on the ball...

Chris#3

07-13-2007, 06:57 PM