Rumor has it Wallace has signed

[dav7z]

Romor has it Wallace has signed a five year 50 mollion dollar contract. But no reliable sorce just this link . Some of you computer wizzards see if you can find out more.
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?topic=684474

[Beekizzle]

would probably be posted on ESPN, but I have my fingers crossed

[Dead_Real]

Hopefully this turns out to be true.

[dav7z]

This is the only other thing i could find.
http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/charlotte-bobcats/53183-bobcats-re-sign-wallace.html

[ziggy]

I'm googling all over the place, but haven't found confirmation yet....
Please let it be true.

[x2pacalypse]

the first link is now dead :(

[Beekizzle]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2922746


From ESPN....we have to compete with Dallas, Orlando, Golden State and others...

[Dead_Real]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2922746


From ESPN....we have to compete with Dallas, Orlando, Golden State and others...

I just saw that on RealGM I expected way more teams to be targeting Crash.

[x2pacalypse]

how much money does milwaukee and orlando have to spend on him?

[spectre]

I think Milwaukee is out of the running. Reportedly they're going to resign Mo Williams to 8 million per and are targeting Desmond Mason. They did inquire, but I imagine most of those teams were just "inquiring". After Mo and before Mason they'll only have 8 million, and that's not picking up Skinner's option.

Orlando is the worry, but supposedly their 1st target is Lewis, which makes sense since it looks like they're losing Hill. Lewis' agent came out today and said that Orlando looked to be the best fit for his client.

Rest would have to be a S&T.

[TheBeagle]

Yeah, the only threat I see (aside from Billionaire Bob!!) is the Magic. No way would he sign in Dallas to be the new Jerry Stackhouse because he won't supplant Howard in the starting rotation, and I don't think he's starting 2 material. Likewise Detroit for the same reasons as Dallas. Portland needs to just worry about signing their draft picks and leave well enough alone unless they want to part with Oden. Also, Golden State's main focus is on Matt Barnes, and they've already had enough turnover with losing JRich that I don't think they'd let Barnes go also. If that is the only competition for GW, I'm pretty pleased.

[timang]

Yeah, the only threat I see (aside from Billionaire Bob!!) is the Magic. No way would he sign in Dallas to be the new Jerry Stackhouse because he won't supplant Howard in the starting rotation, and I don't think he's starting 2 material. Likewise Detroit for the same reasons as Dallas. Portland needs to just worry about signing their draft picks and leave well enough alone unless they want to part with Oden. Also, Golden State's main focus is on Matt Barnes, and they've already had enough turnover with losing JRich that I don't think they'd let Barnes go also. If that is the only competition for GW, I'm pretty pleased.


pay up bob! pay up!

[pree]

NOT EVEN CLOSE to being done. If he can get a sign and trade to a contender for the same amount, I think he'll consider it.

[tamburello]

Orlando is never in the consideration. Besides Lewis, they have also a Darko to solve. And Milwaukee has so many free agents besides Williams(Bell, Patterson, İlyasova etc). They aren't favourite to me.

Among these teams, Dallas, Portland would be a threat I think. If Dallas is targeting Wallace, my intuition says that they are willing to offer us Josh Howard. Without him, neither we nor Wallace would accept it. And Portland is in need of a SF, they may offer us a package of 3 young players, 2 draft rights and a few draft picks. But that's not the package that we should accept. Miami is also in need of SF, but they have even no desirable pieces.

Dallas is the biggest threat I think. Hopefully we'll eliminate them in the race.

[Mustachio]

what in the heck would portland be willing to give up in a sign and trade?? Lamarcus Aldridge or Channing Frye and another player? and keep in mind, that Charlotte is in the drivers seat for any of this thats going down.

We have the most money, therefore all we gotta do is worry about Orlando upping the price. because in a sign and trade the only way we lose him is if a team is willing to pay more than we want to pay for him... there fore we CAN beat them with money, but we decide to get something better in return. So unless the management is garbage, we should be ok in this.

My worse case scenario is Gerald to Dallas for Josh Howard. Howard is alright is guess, but i like Gerald better. Does anyone really think Howard is gonna be better? and if so why would Dallas give him up so easy.

I gotta think that we are the easy frontrunner. every other team would struggle to get something done, tie that with Crash's relationship to the team and i think we are in control.

[dnbman]

If Wallace really wanted out, we could do A LOT worse than getting Howard back in return. He'd become an all-star in the east in no time. Plus, his Wake Forest connections couldn't hurt.

That being said, Wallace is like family.

[jaxatax23]

yea i love josh howard but i would MUCH rather have wallace!

[Mustachio]

I say we resign wallace to a 10 mil a year contract.

theoretically if we could somehow find a way to shed Brezec, Othella, alan anderson, and Jeff Mcinnis's contracts... we would clear around 9 million dollars... maybe in a sign and trade with Seattle if they feel they will lose him anyway. either way i say we go over the cap and try and bring in Rashard Lewis.

Offensively... a lineup of Felton, J-rich, Crash, Lewis (6'10) and okafor would never be stopped.... not a way in the universe to stop that. Defensively wed be a little small, and would get chewed on a little down low. but itd be worth it.

not gonna happen, prob not even in the realm of possibilities for a team... im just dreaming, but damn it would be fun to watch. and it would be a really young team as well. trade some of those contracts for younger lesser paid back ups with potential and it may be a possibility.

[tamburello]

We're surely favorites to get Crash. And Dallas' run doesn't make me sense. They probably are trying to get Wallace without giving up Howard or Nowitzki. But without Howard, this trade is simply unacceptable. Also swapping Wallace for Howard shouldn't make a sense to Mavs, nor to us. So what the hell are they trying to do?

[dnbman]

This is my guess on the Wallace situation:

We'll have a basic verbal agreement in place, but he'll be one of the last FAs we sign. That way we can add a couple of low budget FAs without worry about digging into our MLE and still sign Wallace using Bird rights.

It would benefit Wallace because he'd have a strong team around him when he resigns.

Lewis and Orlando seem to be in contract talks that can best be described as "get a room." I think he's their man, making us clear front runners for Wallace.

[Mustachio]

yeah, im with you... Orlando or Seattle will have Lewis, or the long shot NY. Id rather have the combo of J-rich and Crash.. than Lewis singularly.

[spectre]

DNB I sure wish that's the case, but it sounds like we're not close yet if Bonnell is to be believed. "Not insulting, but not locking him up either". Geesh.

Did you guys see in the Palm Beach paper that Crash is wanting 10 million per? If that's true...what in the hell is the holdup? Losing him would be devastating, and we should just get it done.

[Dunk]

If it's $10 a year then we gotta do it. I think that's pretty good for how he'll perform with our other nucleus of young players. His peak years will be from 25-32. Years 4,5, or even 6 at $10M is gonna be a steal for him.

[dav7z]

I hope he signs with us quick . To put us as ease . And time to make other moves.

[Fromage]

We'll have a basic verbal agreement in place, but he'll be one of the last FAs we sign. That way we can add a couple of low budget FAs without worry about digging into our MLE and still sign Wallace using Bird rights.


that's my understadning. still, i'm holding my breath.

[dnbman]

DNB I sure wish that's the case, but it sounds like we're not close yet if Bonnell is to be believed. "Not insulting, but not locking him up either". Geesh.

Did you guys see in the Palm Beach paper that Crash is wanting 10 million per? If that's true...what in the hell is the holdup? Losing him would be devastating, and we should just get it done.


No team throws out their top number unless their desperate. We'd like to get Wallace for 8-9 million. That's probably what the Bobcats started with. Unless Orlando tops that, Wallace doesn't have any other realistic options, despite how much of a priority Dallas or any other team has made him. The Bobcats aren't in a position to throw around money, so if they can save a million here or there, they'll try to. However, I don't think they'll do at the risk of losing Wallace.

How much you want for that?
20.
I'll give you 15.
How about 17.50?
Sold.

[spectre]

DNB I sure wish that's the case, but it sounds like we're not close yet if Bonnell is to be believed. "Not insulting, but not locking him up either". Geesh.

Did you guys see in the Palm Beach paper that Crash is wanting 10 million per? If that's true...what in the hell is the holdup? Losing him would be devastating, and we should just get it done.


No team throws out their top number unless their desperate. We'd like to get Wallace for 8-9 million. That's probably what the Bobcats started with. Unless Orlando tops that, Wallace doesn't have any other realistic options, despite how much of a priority Dallas or any other team has made him. The Bobcats aren't in a position to throw around money, so if they can save a million here or there, they'll try to. However, I don't think they'll do at the risk of losing Wallace.

How much you want for that?
20.
I'll give you 15.
How about 17.50?
Sold.


Normally I'd agree with that (and that's probably what they're doing), but there's a lot riding on the outcome of these negotiations.

Wallace is reportedly asking for 10 per. Comparable players would be:

Josh Howard - 4 yrs, 40 million
Tayshawn Prince - 4 yrs, 40 million
AK47 - 4 years left, approx 15 million
Richard Jefferson - 4 years left, approx 13 million

I'd rather have Crash than all those guys.

Instead of trying to save a buck or two on our best player IMO we should just pay him the reasonable 10 million and call it a day. He could be asking for a lot worse.

[x2pacalypse]

DNB I sure wish that's the case, but it sounds like we're not close yet if Bonnell is to be believed. "Not insulting, but not locking him up either". Geesh.

Did you guys see in the Palm Beach paper that Crash is wanting 10 million per? If that's true...what in the hell is the holdup? Losing him would be devastating, and we should just get it done.


No team throws out their top number unless their desperate. We'd like to get Wallace for 8-9 million. That's probably what the Bobcats started with. Unless Orlando tops that, Wallace doesn't have any other realistic options, despite how much of a priority Dallas or any other team has made him. The Bobcats aren't in a position to throw around money, so if they can save a million here or there, they'll try to. However, I don't think they'll do at the risk of losing Wallace.

How much you want for that?
20.
I'll give you 15.
How about 17.50?
Sold.


Normally I'd agree with that (and that's probably what they're doing), but there's a lot riding on the outcome of these negotiations.

Wallace is reportedly asking for 10 per. Comparable players would be:

Josh Howard - 4 yrs, 40 million
Tayshawn Prince - 4 yrs, 40 million
AK47 - 4 years left, approx 15 million
Richard Jefferson - 4 years left, approx 13 million

I'd rather have Crash than all those guys.

Instead of trying to save a buck or two on our best player IMO we should just pay him the reasonable 10 million and call it a day. He could be asking for a lot worse.


wait wtf is that money per year or total contract value?

[spectre]

That is per year, and it represents (to quote the idiot SAS) STUPID money. I knew AK had an outrageous contract but I didn't realize Jefferson did until this year.

Facts are you sometimes have to overpay for a player when you allow him to hit free agency. When another team threatens to steal your guy away you have to ask yourself "if I decide to pass what are my options...can I replace said player?". IMO there's nothing out there available that would be as good...much less better...than Crash at 10 per. Lewis, the best alternative would give us a few more PPG, but there's no way he replaces Crash's defense...and a lineup of:

Felton
JRich
Lewis
Fabio
Mek

SUCKS defensively.

[rallydurham]

The thing is Wallace can't get $10 million from anyone else unless they do some really creative salary dumping.

I know we aren't looking to take on any bad salaries thats for damn sure...

If Orlando takes Rashard then they are out.

Memphis has like $8 million which we'd match easily. They're targeting Varejao.

Milwaukee has like 6-7 milion but they've gotta get a PG or re-sign Mo Williams. They're too busy with Yi to worry about Wallace...


Wallace is a Bobcat next year for about $10 million. We could prob get him signed for 8-9 million but that might just piss him off. Offer the $10 million so he feels compensated fairly. It's not worth saving $1-$2 million if it causes him to become a malcontent and not give 100% effort. I'd rather us just trade him if we aren't going to pay him fair market value...

[dnbman]

We need to learn from that AK contract!

People in Utah were saying the similar things about AK, the original 2 blocks/2 steals SF. Not many folks on here have been saying we need to break the piggy bank, but plenty of other folks online have been making such claims.

[TheBeagle]

We need to learn from that AK contract!

People in Utah were saying the similar things about AK, the original 2 blocks/2 steals SF. Not many folks on here have been saying we need to break the piggy bank, but plenty of other folks online have been making such claims.
EXCELLENT POINT, DNB!! I was just thinking the same thing today, but more significantly with the C-Webb love affair in Sacramento. The fans pleaded for him to stay, and the Maloofs threw the bank at him, and suddenly he was never the same player, and the waves of antipathy began in earnest. In my opinion, $10 mill. per is a very good deal for the Bobcats, and should be jumped on if that is what he and Pelinka are requesting. I would say anything over $12 mill., we need to consider a sign and trade because we can't risk an AK or C-Webb or LJ (in his Hornets days) scenario; it would set us back light years, and maybe send the franchise into oblivion. Crash is named Crash for a reason, and anything can happen, as much as I platonically love the guy.

[x2pacalypse]

i saw on another forum lewis signed with the magic...i would post a link but its 5am and im too tired....ill do one tomorrow

[x2pacalypse]

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/10244724
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in case u missed it...

so lewis and the magic are out....we couldnt have afforded him anyways