2007-2008 Player Predictions: Adam Morrison

[ziggy]

Continuing our player by player predictions for next season:
Give everyone your best case scenario, worst case scenario and most importantly your prediction of what you think this player will do on the court this upcoming season.
As the season progresses, we'll be able to refer back to these threads to see who had the best handle on what the players were going to do on the court.
We'll add one or two more players on the Bobcat's roster each day until we get predictions for the entire team.

Next up ( and I anticipate this being the biggest fight) Adam Morrison:
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/bobcatsplanet/d35ynk36.jpg
Best Case
Adam shocks the world and quiets the doubters. After finally getting some legitimate NBA coaching and ridding himself of a PG that hated him (BK) Adam thrives as the Bobcats designated 6th man gunner off of the bench.
17ppg, 3rpg 45% from the field
Worst Case
We come to the awful conclusion that Adam is not an NBA caliber player. He gets buried on the bench behind Fabio, Dudley etc.
6ppg, 1rpg, 39% from the field
My prediction
Adam will improve this season, I'm sure of that. Because Adam is a year older, wiser, stronger and has a year of NBA experience under his belt along with a brand new coach ( that knows more than 3 plays :) ) I think Adam is going to be OK this season.
14ppg, 3rpg, 44% from the field.

... let the fight begin

[Alex]

Best Case:
15 ppg, 6 rpg, 3 apg, 50% FG, 85% FT
This is the sort of season that I envisioned Morrison having last year but obviously he showed that he was nowhere near that and had a low confidence level throughout (I think because of bad coaching). If he puts up the numbers above this season then I will consider that an fantastic season for him and a great way to re-start the Adam Morrison hype.

Worst Case:
10 ppg, 3 rpg, 35% FG
He's going to get less minutes this season with the arrival of JRich. Worst case scenario, he won't be able to use the minutes he gets wisely and he'll fall WAY behind Herrmann in terms of productivity and struggles with yet another horrible shooting season.

My Prediction:
14.5 ppg, 5 rpg, 3 apg, 46% FG, 80% FT
I think Adam has worked a lot of his game in the offseason. He is going to be more confident and he'll ignore the criticism. He's gonna be a great scoring option for us off the bench.

[dav7z]

BEST CASE for Adam get traded to a west coast team get a starting gig.
For us 12ppg 2 boards 43 percent from the floor

WORST CASE . Falls to the end of a long list of wings and out of the rotation. 2.2 ppg 1 board 40percent from the floor.

MY PREDICTION- 6ppg about 15 mins per game. shooting around 42 percent. With RICH, WALLACE, CARROLL, HERRMANN all ADAM will get is a few fill in mins. Its best for Adam and the Bobcats to trade him befor the season starts.Give the kid a new start hes got talent thet will never be used hear.

[Jonathanmartin7]

was a neat idea to begin with Ziggy. But it just got to the point where I only want to tell the poster before me to go die, so I will not reply to anymore of these. see you guys come regular season

[jaxatax23]

well i actually agree with dav7z....an ziggy i think ur right about this being the biggest fight

[ALong13]

Best Case: Morrison gets rolling like he did at his Gonzaga days. Shuts other people and teams up and doesn't worry what others think of him. He gets consistent as well. He shoots 14 ppg, 2 rpg 2apg and 46% from floor

Worst Case: Morrison continues to dissappoint and gets put on the bench a lot for 5-10 minutes a game. He scores 6 ppg .4 rpg .2 apg and shoots 36% from the floor.

My Prediction: I think he gets one more year as a back-up after that at best. I see him improving, but not by much, not terrible, not good. 9 ppg 1.2 rpg .7 apg and shoots around 39-40% from the field.

[dav7z]

was a neat idea to begin with Ziggy. But it just got to the point where I only want to tell the poster before me to go die, so I will not reply to anymore of these. see you guys come regular season



John i hate you feel that way about me . Nothing ive said was or intended to offend you as a person . I enjoy reading your post and think you have a lot of great ideas about the players . So please dont take my thoughts about a player personaly. I have never said nothing bad about you as a person and hate you feel the way you do about me . But i stand by thoughts of Adam whitch is nothing personal tword him either. I wish the best for him playing in or out of Charlotte.

[chabber]

Best: He plays like we hoped he would last year and becomes a legit offensive threat.

15ppg

Worst: Our fears are confirmed and Morrison is a dud, hardly plays due to poor defense, inability to get his shot off on good defenders and can't seem to find consistency in his jumper even when left wide open.

6ppg

My Prediction: I think he will improve this year, however he will be fighting for his minutes. Dudley is looking really impressive and could take away from his PT. If May actually plays 50+ games then Herrmann would probably be stealing his minutes at SF too.

9-11ppg on 41% FG.

[ammofan]

Best case: 18.5 ppg 5 ast. and 3 reb. shooting about 40-50%

Worst Case: Very few minutes played averaging about 8 ppg 3 ast. 2 reb.
I don't see him doing this bad^^^

My Prediction:
See best case......I am not just saying this because I am his biggest fan. Adam supposedly has gained a few lbs. and worked on his game this offseason. He should improve. We also have to remember that Big Bernie B didn't let him show his emotions in the games last season like he did in college. The Stache needs to have people pass him the ball more so he can create his own shot.(Remember the game vs. Minnesota?) He should be fine this season under Sam Vincent's new offense.

[Jonathanmartin7]

was a neat idea to begin with Ziggy. But it just got to the point where I only want to tell the poster before me to go die, so I will not reply to anymore of these. see you guys come regular season



John i hate you feel that way about me . Nothing ive said was or intended to offend you as a person . I enjoy reading your post and think you have a lot of great ideas about the players . So please dont take my thoughts about a player personaly. I have never said nothing bad about you as a person and hate you feel the way you do about me . But i stand by thoughts of Adam whitch is nothing personal tword him either. I wish the best for him playing in or out of Charlotte.

I don't know if you got my pm or not. If you didn't I'll resend it to you. There really wasn't any cause for me to type that, my appologies. You would not belive the stress I've been under in the last month to a month in a have. My e-mail is Jonathanmartin7@aol.com I'll send you the novel I wrote about whenevery you e-mail me. Once again I'm sorry, and everybody should smite me for acting that way.

[dav7z]

Na i will will rep you up for being honest.Good posting keep it up..........


BTW I love the changing headers good job guys,,,,,,,,,,,,

[ziggy]

I don't know if you got my pm or not. If you didn't I'll resend it to you. There really wasn't any cause for me to type that, my appologies. You would not belive the stress I've been under in the last month to a month in a have. My e-mail is Jonathanmartin7@aol.com I'll send you the novel I wrote about whenevery you e-mail me. Once again I'm sorry, and everybody should smite me for acting that way.

No need to smite. No harm no foul :)
Hopefully the stress in you life will ease up for you soon. PM me if there is anything that I can do to help.

[Slam]

Best case:
Find his groove as a bench/role player along with the Hammer and provides an instant offense off the pine giving other team fits. He (thanks to Coach V's play book) forgets about trying to jack up 3's and instead works the post, backing dudes down with his new found strength and abusing them with the array of post and mid range moves scoring in short, sharpe bunches.

14ppg on 45% with 3rpg 2apg

Worse case:
Still struggles to work out the NBA game, continues to get pushed around by NBA sized players, continues to struggle to get his shot off, continues to be a negative on the defensive end and continues to pout. Gets lost deep on the bench behind Crash, Fabio, Dudley and Rufus Lynx.

8ppg on 39%

My prediction
Show case him for as long as possible and then trade him while we can and while he's still on his rookie contract.

[dav7z]

What position or who would you trade him for.
You say we got a lot of holes in our lineup how do we fix them.

[Slam]

A high post playing PF/C like Frye.

[timang]

A high post playing PF/C like Frye.


but that would be more of a dream than a possibility IMO. :g:

best case: takes the starting spot and score like a madman on the loose.

worst case: see rookie year.

my prediction: he improving his game well enough to make fans notice more on his play rather than on his mustache and retro looks. :wink: :biggrin:

[tray]

My prediction: Either he will be traded for an inside player or the team can forget it.

[Slam]

A high post playing PF/C like Frye.


but that would be more of a dream than a possibility IMO. :g:

best case: takes the starting spot and score like a madman on the loose.


Thinking that he'll take a starting spot away from Crash or Jrich is more or a dream than trying to land Frye!!

;)

[dav7z]

We could land a big out of the west. I think hes still well liked and i dont think all gms has wrote him off. I think with the players we have right now a trade is Adams best chance to become a starting player. It would benefit him and our team.

[timang]

A high post playing PF/C like Frye.


but that would be more of a dream than a possibility IMO. :g:

best case: takes the starting spot and score like a madman on the loose.


Thinking that he'll take a starting spot away from Crash or Jrich is more or a dream than trying to land Frye!!

;)


hahaha! :hysterical: you got me right there big slam! :biggrin:

that's just the best case anyways... :biggrin:

[spectre]

I think that the Bobcats know Ammo needs some PT regardless of whether we want to keep him or give him up in trade. I also have serious doubts that May will be ready to start the season except in limited minutes...so imagine we go with this:

Felton/Touche'
JRich/Hammer
Crash/Ammo
Fabio/Dudley/May/Harrington
Mek/Primoz/Dudley/Hollins

I'm mostly with Dav on Ammo. Defensively he'll always be a liability and he's backup material at best with us.

[Slam]

I agree with you Spectre - he needs PT but with Crash, JRich, the Hammer, Duds and Fabio on the roster who are all as productive and at least a little better on D, I can't see how he'll get the burn here.

I honestly see Portland as the besst fit for him.

Blake
Roy
Ammo
LMA
Oden

That's tight!

Like you suggested, I just hope he gets enough burn here to show case him a little and get something of value in return.

[dav7z]

Do you guys think he has to be show cased to be traded. I would think he has great value with a favorable contract. And a year to show all that untaped talent. A Gm gets the best of both worlds with Ammo . A lot of upside and a contract where you could drop him the next three years.Any year you wanted. Great contract to take on. That in its self should get us a solid but not great big. I kinda think Ammo and a second could land a player like Gooden out of clevland about that clabier of player. Or a Jaminson for him and a first but his contract would have to be redone and his age. Im sure we could make a move........

[spectre]

I think our guys will make sure he gets the PT (heh Slam...where did I get that idea!); they don't want to lose total value for him no more than we do. Coach V has said he projects both Dudley and Fabio as 4...which works out well being as how we're weak with conventional PFs...so if that's how we run it'll give Ammo plenty of opportunity.


I honestly see Portland as the best fit for him.

Me too now that Seattle has drafted 2 SFs in Green & Durant. That sucks too, as they have a bunch of big guys who'd fit well in our system. I know you want Frye Slam...but after the article in the Oregonian (Frye could challenge Aldridge for the starting gig) I see no way they give him up. Would you take Przybilla instead?

Dav I'd like to ship Ammo out west if we trade him, but I'd have to consider Gooden as he could start (trading a backup for a starter is kind of a no brainer isn't it?)...but I'd rather utilize capspace instead if the Cavs would be willing. Maybe some convoluted 3 way?

[Slam]

Przybilla is too one dimensional for my liking and way too injury prone.

[chabber]

I see Portland as a good fit for Ammo too but I just don't see them moving Aldridge or Frye for him. Maybe if we'd have played hardball with Chicago last year on Thomas, Aldridge would have fallen in our laps instead of us getting jumped by the Blazers to get him.

I'd love to get Collison from the Sonics but like you spec said they've got Green, Durant, Wally etc. they don't need any more SF's.

I am in agreement with you guys though. It's probably best to move him now and see if we can get another piece to the puzzle in a different position.

[qchoops]

I doubt the Bobcats executives are ready to admit defeat after only 1 season with Ammo. MJ had to leave DC before the Wizards were able to get rid of Kwame Brown (and I don't see anyone gifting us with a player like Caron).

[Slam]

I'd trade Ammo for Kwame.......if Kwame didn't have 9 mil coming his way.

[spectre]

I doubt the Bobcats executives are ready to admit defeat after only 1 season with Ammo. MJ had to leave DC before the Wizards were able to get rid of Kwame Brown (and I don't see anyone gifting us with a player like Caron).


Being as how all Bernie could talk about was getting a go to guy before we selected Ammo last year and then we trade the 8th pick for a real honest to God go to guy this year I'd say they probably see the writing on the wall.

I doubt they give him away at this stage, but boosting his stock up at the beginning of the year has to be a priority. Jordan has always preached defense (and so does our new coach), so I can't see Ammo ever endearing himself to management. Primoz either really, but that's for another thread.

[dav7z]

With all the bigs Portland is sporting Morrison at small foward would be a good fit thair. Check out the roster.

http://www.hoopshype.com/Library/teams/portland.htm

They need a shooter and we could use a big for sure . They have to many bigs and we have to many wings.

[tray]

I'd trade Ammo for Kwame.......if Kwame didn't have 9 mil coming his way.


I agree. Having someone inside with Okafor is my main objective at this point. At this point in his career, Kwame Brown would probably do better in the east than he did when he was with the Wizards.

[Jonathanmartin7]

just about the only trade I'd consider for adam would be for Aldrige. If we could get him I'd let go of Adam. I still say that doing it now would be jumping the gun on him though. With our luck with injuries, we should hold on to every able body we can. I mean we are baseing his ability on 1 season, a shitty one yes, but still I don't think he's gotten a fair shake yet.

[Alex]

I'd trade Ammo for Kwame.......if Kwame didn't have 9 mil coming his way.


You're crazy

[Mustachio]

Its just not an Ammo thread without me... haha.

First of all slam... if you think Jordan would bring Kwame into a franchise of his twice... i want what your smoking.

Second this thread is completely off topic, its a prediction thread not a trade Ammo thread...but ill play along this time.

There is plenty of playing time available with this roster. if you think we are gonna go a full season without either May, Crash, Richardson, or Mek getting hurt your crazy.
I definetly see what you guys are saying... crazy wing depth and crazy lack of big depth. but there are just so many factors against a trade its not funny.
-It was his first year, not everyone lights it up, and if you dont see potential there your blind. the risk of improvment and getting hosed on a trade is far too high
-High fan popularity, jersey sales, marketing $$$$$
-#1 trade rule---never a big for a small.
-and most importantly... if his own teams fan base is beggin to trade him... what GM out there is gonna jump all over a trade for an underacheiving SF who apparently cant play defense.

Buckle up boys,
Best case- Vincent employs a run and gun system with multiple size looks and lots of substitutions for fresh legs. For long stretches we could have the offensive explosion of Ray, Rich, Mo, Crash and Mek.... if that team cant score no team can. Adam falls nicely into his 6th man role with Carroll and provides instant offense.. 16ppg 5 boards 2 assist 44%FG and 90% FT would be an outstanding second year in my opinion.
Worst Case: He gets burried on a deep bench (not happenin)

My Prediction: obviously the best case scenario.... beleive me guys there will be PLENTY of playing time to go around.

[Slam]

First of all slam... if you think Jordan would bring Kwame into a franchise of his twice... i want what your smoking.

Which is why I wrote I'D trade Ammo for Kwame (if he didn't have the 9 mil coming) - not that MJ should trade Ammo for Kwame.


There is plenty of playing time available with this roster

Yes there is.............but there are 4 guy's in front of Ammo who will get it before him unless something seriously changes.


It was his first year, not everyone lights it up, and if you dont see potential there your blind.

100% loved him at Zag. Really enjoyed watching him play so it's not like I'm a hater, I just didn't want him on the Bobcats for all the reasons he showed in his 1st season. And while it was his 1st season and he should be cut some slack, he was also meant to be "NBA ready".


High fan popularity, jersey sales, marketing $$$$$

Dude, the fans at home hate him!! They boo him!! He plays better on the road than he does at home and stupidly even said so in the paper!! That's not going to equal $$$$$!!!

[Mustachio]

Im just trying to talk sense. I dont think its possible to get fair return for the boy... thats all.

i know im fighting a losing battle, but until it gets proven to me that we can get fair return and a PF that could start... ill keep fighting. to me its impossible to get fair return, therefore im finding ways of keeping Ammo.

[Slam]

Im just trying to talk sense. I dont think its possible to get fair return for the boy... thats all.

i know im fighting a losing battle, but until it gets proven to me that we can get fair return and a PF that could start... ill keep fighting. to me its impossible to get fair return, therefore im finding ways of keeping Ammo.


I can dig that.

Like you, I don't want to get 10c to the dollar for what was the 3rd overall pick in a draft - which is why I've been advocating to keep him, run his value up, show case him and then try and strike while the iron is hot.

[supadiscofly]

Not all the fans at home hate him. I've never booed Adam or any of the other Bobcats players at a game for that matter.

After reading this thread, I'm beginning to think I'm one of the only Adam fans and supporters here which is very disheartening since this is a Bobcats message board. His first season isn't as great as people expected and already everyone hates him and wishes he could be traded? Maybe he won't turn out to be the star that people predicted, but I think it would be nice for him to be given a chance.

[qchoops]

Maybe we just need to reset our expectations for Morrison. Instead of thinking of him as a potential 20+ ppg scorer, like I imagine many of us thought he might become when he was drafted, let's think of him as a scoring spark of the bench. Perhaps in the mold of Brent Barry for the Spurs: If he develops into more, great, but for the Bobcats to continue to improve, they have to improve their depth, and I think Morrison can possibly fill a role.

[Mustachio]

Maybe we just need to reset our expectations for Morrison. Instead of thinking of him as a potential 20+ ppg scorer, like I imagine many of us thought he might become when he was drafted, let's think of him as a scoring spark of the bench. Perhaps in the mold of Brent Barry for the Spurs: If he develops into more, great, but for the Bobcats to continue to improve, they have to improve their depth, and I think Morrison can possibly fill a role.


great point... and supadiscofly... there are still plenty of Ammo supporters out there... and im with you about the booing... i never heard it much at all and if anyone booed it was usually one of the 10 million douchebag transplant fans in Charlotte. he just didnt give them a whole lot to go on this last season, but he will be ok.

and slam... i totally agree with the showcase and trade idea.
However if we showcase him and he starts blowing up... would we trade him????

[dav7z]

[ I go to the games and the fans love him ]
He comes in and ever drunk in the house goes wild. lol.
Yes he has a lot of fans.
But the Bobcats would be smart to test the market to find out his value. WE NEED A BIG. If Ammo can get us that big with his favorable contract then we trade him . Its that simple . If he dont have the value to get us that decent big such as a Goodon type we keep him. Show case him and make the desision who to trade to get a big.
People we one BIG short of being a real good team. If i thought May could stay healthy for 25 mins a game i would never even think about trading him....

[davcbow]

I say keep Carroll, Davidson, Dudley, Felton, Herrmann, Okafor, Richardson, and Wallace and the rest to me are tradable as long as it makes us better. If it wouldn't make us better then I'd keep what we got sign a back up PG and go with what we got and look to next year to make the next big step. :g:

[dav7z]

I say keep Carroll, Davidson, Dudley, Felton, Herrmann, Okafor, Richardson, and Wallace and the rest to me are tradable as long as it makes us better. If it wouldn't make us better then I'd keep what we got sign a back up PG and go with what we got and look to next year to make the next big step. :g:




Im worse than you , everybody is tradeable to me except Rich. Wallace, and OK50. I do agree the others you said we should not be shoping but if a deal comes they tradable. I might even say no one on our team is untouchable for the right price.

[davcbow]

If its a notible step up then maybe, but I would want to keep our chemestry of the team together. If you trade away the wrong ones that chemestry will go out the window then we wouldnt know what we got. I think our team chemestry comes from a combination of Oak and Wallace and the rest play working off of their energy. :g:

[peapod]

With all the bigs Portland is sporting Morrison at small forward would be a good fit thair. Check out the roster.

http://www.hoopshype.com/Library/teams/portland.htm


They need a shooter and we could use a big for sure . They have to many bigs and we have to many wings.

Not only do they have 6 bigs, 6'10" to 7'1", but they also have a few points: Jarrett Jack, Steve Blake, Sergio Rodriguez, Taureen Green, and 2 more overseas. Petteri Koponen, and Rudy Fernandez.

Since they have LaMarcus in front of Channing Frye at this point, and a need for some scoring firepower at the 3, I would be interested in your opinion of the following trade.
Adam Morrison and Othella Harrington, plus Ryan Hollins for Channing Frye, and one of the overseas points, and Taureen Green.

They would get a marketable 3 from the Pacific Northwest, who can give them points, and his defensive liabilities would be masked by the twin towers of LaMarcus and Greg Oden. Harrington would give them a veteran big, and Hollins would give them a young big..

We would get Channing Frye, who was a starter in NY, and might be one for us too. At worst, he would back up Okafor and May. After winning 2 National Titles, Taureen performs well in big games, and could provide 15-18 minutes a game to back up Felton.
Rudy Fernandez is a tall point, who could be brought over next year. 6'6" 175 lbs. He's athletic, loves to go to the hole, good passer, and has 3 pt. range. Several draft sites had us picking him at 22, as he can play both guard spots.

Then we resign Derek Anderson, to go with Taureen and Felton to round out our points. We would have Okafor, Primoz, May and Frye, as our primary bigs, with Hermann, and Dudley getting time in as well.

When I first posted this idea, a couple months ago, on another site, I was sort of reluctant to pull the trigger on it, because I believe Adam will be our most improved player this year. He came in with tremendous expectations, and didn't handle them well. This year, I predict he will average a few less minutes, and score in the 12-14 range. But, he will do this with less shots. With Jason Richardson taking his scoring burden, Adam can go out, have fun, not force anything, and with a year of NBA play and scheduling behind him, his entire game will elevate.

If not, Dudley will be getting a bunch of his minutes.

PS This is my first post to this site, and I recognize a few folks. It looks like a really nice site.

[dav7z]

Glad to have ya at Bobcatsplanet and your 1st post was a good one . You right about two many bigs which ive hrard you cant have too many of.
I just dont know who would be easist to get . They have been reporting Frye has bean taking names abd kicking tail including LMA. . I have even read reports Frye might even start. But i would give Morrison and a protected first
for LMA . good post REP IT UP

[ziggy]

PS This is my first post to this site, and I recognize a few folks. It looks like a really nice site.

Thanks! and welcome to BobcatsPlanet, We're glad to have you here.