Lineups?

[Mustachio]

Ok boys... give me your best lineup and why. im fairly sure Sam Vincent isnt reading this so dont worry about affecting his decisions haha.
Ill start it off

Coach Mustachios lineup:
What is so wrong with a lineup of...
Felton
Richardson
Ammo
Crash
Okafor.

This lineup can run like the devil, score in bunches and hold its own defensively. In my opinion the best way to beat a good basketball team is to create mismatches and at the same time get all your best players on the floor.
-Okafor mismatches most centers because hes quicker and has great coordination and footwork. Most centers are lumbering and big two things Oak can dominate.
-Crash isnt small and i cant think of one single injury of his that was created from playing the PF position. he can outleap any PF in the league, is twice as fast as any of them and can draw the big boys out and hit an outside shot(basically everything you want from sean may but cant have)

I just think that with Crash down low, it opens us up more... lots of steals leading to fast breaks which is how a running team thrives... wed be quicker than almost any team sans the Suns, and wed have quality depth on the bench to keep us fresh.
a key point in this lineup is... Crash thrives in help defense situations. With Jrich playing SG and Crash SF...adams defensive liabilitys are somewhat managed.

and not to mention at anytime of the game you can switch it up on them and go big and grind em down a little. I think this is our best case scenario en route to the playoffs this year and our best chance to get a second round bid.

What say ye.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Felton
Richardson
Wallace
Hermann
Okafor

Wallace is more comfortable playing the 3, and I think he provides more of a threat. Having Hermann playing PF, provides more of a presence down low then having Wallace there.

[spectre]

Felton
JRich
Crash
Fabio
Mek

is just a better balanced lineup. Fabio has learned some great prevent defense and his offense is much better than Ammo's...at least currently. Besides, he's 6'10" and allows us to keep Crash on opposing SFs, where as WvsMc said he's much more comfortable.

Just scoring doesn't win games, and Ammo has done nothing to warrant a starting gig and shouldn't get it "just because". If anyone's contending for that roster spot it'll be May, not Ammo.

[x2pacalypse]

felton
richardson
crash
hermann
okafor


i feel hermann should get the start A) because what he proved the last 10 games of the season last year and B) because he can somewhat be compared to a smaller version of dirk nowitzki...but with better defense...if that makes any sense

ammo said himself he is glad richardson is here to "take the pressure off of him" ...being put on the spot to have success in a starting position wont help him at all and he will just crumble under pressure again like he did last season...let him be a bench option...he will flourish there and maybe eventually will get to start

[Mustachio]

La Garra's 12 above average to great games during the end of a season dont warrant a starting job either in my opinion.

and la garra on defence scares me just as much as Ammo, only La Garra flails much more.

I love The Primetime Argentine, but hes gotta earn the spot just like everyone else, and to me, so far... its just a bunch of late season hype.

I whole heartedly concur though... that if Hermann continues his pace set at the end of the season... he should definetly start at PF. at their peaks i do think that Ray, Rich, Crash, La Garra and Oak would be a nice lineup... but hes still gotta prove it.

I would be more than happy with Gerald at SF, just lookin at the video Ziggy posted a while ago though... all of his great plays come from deep inside the paint or on a fast break. Why not put him at a postion that will keep him in that area. No one can argue that Crash has a better back to the basket game than he does in a shooters role. and his ability to hit shots inside the arc will bring the big men out.

[tamburello]

I believe Sam Vincent is going to start the season cautiously, with the line up:
Felton
Richardson
Wallace
Okafor
Brezec

But Herrmann Okafor-duo will play the deciding moments of the matches. My one is a safe bet, I guess.

And I don't agree with Mustachio on his concerns about Herrmann. He didn't improve himself in a moment and begin playing wonderfully. He was there, but noticing him took months for Bickerstaff. He could do it anytime after he was adopted the NBA style. He may not be a starter rightaway, but he'll definitely go on being productive.

[spectre]

I believe Sam Vincent is going to start the season cautiously, with the line up:
Felton
Richardson
Wallace
Okafor
Brezec

But Herrmann Okafor-duo will play the deciding moments of the matches. My one is a safe bet, I guess.

And I don't agree with Mustachio on his concerns about Herrmann. He didn't improve himself in a moment and begin playing wonderfully. He was there, but noticing him took months for Bickerstaff. He could do it anytime after he was adopted the NBA style. He may not be a starter rightaway, but he'll definitely go on being productive.


Tam he might at that...but after he gets about 5 games worth of Primoz' defense we might not ever see him getting PT again!

Watch Fabio...he was AWESOME at denying the ball to his guy, and it got under their skins. That's not necessarily THE defense I'd like out of our PF, but it's the best option we have.

[Grandmama]

What was the question, what is the best line-up?

Unfortunately I am going to cop-out and say if we have a best line up or one that is discernably better than the rest, we are going to be in trouble. I know this probably goes against the point of this post but we all better hope that there is not one line up that is a 10 on a scale of 1-10 and others that are clear cut 5's and 6's if that makes sense. The way this team is going to work the best is if Carroll, Ammo, Hermann, Crash and J-Rich can be interchanged with some type of fluidity where the whole doesn't fall off based on the parts that are being subbed in or out. Therefore hopefully the cats will be as interchangeable as to sub whichever lineup is playing best that given day. Only then can we see this teams true potential.

Nevertheless:
Starting Ending (usually)
Ray Ray
JRich JRich
GDub GDub (maybe Ammo or Matty C on D/O sub)
Oak Fabio
Primoz (no more that 10 minutes Oak

[ziggy]

I like the topic Mustachio :)
For the sake of argument how about Coach Ziggy's lineup of

Felton
J-Rich
Crash
Emeka
Twiggy

That way we aren't so small at the 4, we maintain our quickness because Ryan can fly. And we would have 3 shot blockers on the court in Emeka, Ryan and Crash.

[Slam]

For the sake of argument how about Coach Ziggy's lineup of

Felton
J-Rich
Crash
Emeka
Twiggy

That way we aren't so small at the 4, we maintain our quickness because Ryan can fly. And we would have 3 shot blockers on the court in Emeka, Ryan and Crash.







I personally love it Zig - but I am a Twiggy fan.

[ammofan]

PG: Ray Ray
SG: J Rich
SF: Ammo
PF: Crash
C: EO50

[dvdbumpus]

Tamb's right on the cautious approach with having Brezec start. I think that it's between Fabio and Adam to fight for who gets the minutes. They'll get an equal chance, but Fabio has the leg up with the end of the year performance.

[Jonathanmartin7]

Ray
J-R
Crash
Oak
Primo
6th man of the year Adam
When May is healthy, Oak will play C and May will play PF
I'm not impressed with Herrman too much. I mean he did great last year when we were playing against basicly scrubs. Everybody resting starters for playoffs. If he can do it against better players then he'll win the starting job over May. Which would be best. May comming off the bench, putting in less minutes and getting rest for his knees would contribute more overall minutes coming off the bench. If we start him and he plays too much and gets hurt...well it's over for him.
I really think we should try and unload Primo, and/or Herrman for a vet big man.

[Keetch]

This is my hand's down favorite:

Raymond Felton
Jason Richardson
Gerald Wallace
Sean May
Emeka Okafor

Too Easy

Best Depth: Carroll/Dudley/Herrmann
Occasional Spark/Emerging Cult Hero: Morrison

Obviously our wings are great, but our depth at PG and the frontcourt is beyond worrisome. I understand the PF Okafor / C Brezac lineups. I just really hope Vincent can figure out a way to avoid that though, maybe using Hollins and/or Davidson. Or possibly we could follow the retro trend (Reggie Miller/Allan Houston/Penny Hardaway) and sign either Dennis Rodman or Charles Barkley? j/k

Not forgetting the small ball lineups that will likely be forced into major action when May sits in street clothes, putting Herrmann/Dudley or Wallace at PF. I'm cool with that. But if May can play, he starts and finishes for me.

[Grandmama]

I really forgot May was even an option. Is he going to be available at the start of the season?

[Mustachio]

For the sake of argument how about Coach Ziggy's lineup of

Felton
J-Rich
Crash
Emeka
Twiggy

That way we aren't so small at the 4, we maintain our quickness because Ryan can fly. And we would have 3 shot blockers on the court in Emeka, Ryan and Crash.







I personally love it Zig - but I am a Twiggy fan.



I love this lineup better than my original, and to tell you the truth... i forgot about The Stick. If Hollins can start and legitimately play the C or PF spot... thats not a bad lineup to tell you the truth... thats 3 people in one lineup that can do a 360 windmill... ranging from 6'6 to 7 foot.

Man i hope Twiggy can step up, cause im getting excited about that lineup... Do you guys realize how hard that lineup would be to slow down if Ryan stepped up to the big leagues full time???

[spectre]

Now I like Twiggy as well as the next guy...but last year he couldn't stay on the court without fouling someone and for the most part looked lost. Has he really progressed so far that he could be projected to start?

[Mustachio]

in the summer league (which means absolutely nothing) he played much much better.

of course it was inferior competition and not a real challenge.

but the good news from that is, he didnt look lost like he did last year... looked to be better accustomed to his role and looked like he started to get it. we will see i guess

[ziggy]

Now I like Twiggy as well as the next guy...but last year he couldn't stay on the court without fouling someone and for the most part looked lost. Has he really progressed so far that he could be projected to start?
I think on 85% of the teams in the NBA he couldn't be a starter, but in our case if Emeka starts at PF then I think Ryan is the best option to start at center.

With that being said I've lost a lot of faith in Primoz after the way that he performed last season.

[walkerl]

If I was coaching Primo would not get off the bench. My starting depth chart

PG: Felton, Mcinnis (he will resign)
SG: JRich, Carrol, Ammo
SF: Crash, Dudley, Ammo
PF: Walter, Super Jamero, May (he will be hurt, if not, he moves to 1st spot)
C: Emeka, Stickman, Super Jamero, Primoz (only if everyone else is hurt, and we would forfeit if he didn't play)

[Mustachio]

I dont see how dudley deserves a spot over Ammo... what are you basing that on? Summer league? please.

Im completly fine with him not being in the starting lineup and i dont even think its a real life option at this point BUT. Spokanes Most Wanted will be your 2008 back up SF.

[Mustachio]

Also i know its easy to pick on Primoz and i dont trust him after last year either...

but if the pillow plays like we know he can... he would be a great option off the bench at the very least.
in a perfect world, with the players that are on this team playing as well as they could i think the lineup would definetly be...

Ray
Rich
Crash
Mek
Primoz.

[walkerl]

I'm basing it on the fact, that Dudley cannot possibly shoot any worst than Ammo. and that Dudley is a better rebounder, defensive player, and has better quickness than Ammo. Now I was/am a supporter of Ammo, but he has to be the worst defender in history of the NBA Universe!!! and I really didn't see any improvement during the summer league. I think mentally he is not in the game yet. He doesn't look like the same guy who lead the Zags.

[Mustachio]

you obviously havent heard of Antoine Walker, Reggie Miller and countless other offensive players who played less than perfect defense..

Adam gets a bad rap on his defense and its lacking to say the least. but its not as bad as most people like to say.

Dudley is a better rebounder, defensive player and has better quickness ..... BASED ON WHAT? College? cause youve seen first hand the difficult transition for a standout collegiate star to the NBA. You really dont know anything about Dudley yet... and if youll go look, Ammo averaged more blocks and more points (and had comparable assist and Steal stats) than Dudley in college, so your theory is fundamentally flawed.

How bout we wait till Dudley plays a minute in the preseason before we go annointing him our starting SF spot.

[walkerl]

Jared Dudley's last year of college
19.0ppg 8.3rpg 3.0ast
Ammo
28.1 ppg 5.5rpg 1.8 ast

and Ammo is 3 inches taller, and as far as blocks it was .4 vs .3 a game. and Dudley shot better from the field and the 3pt line.

And defense translates to the pro's, offense doesn't always. A good defender in the college is a good defender in NBA. I watched every televised Bobcats game except 3 and Adam's D is horrendous. Slapping at the ball getting silly fouls, he exerts zero effort on D.

[Mustachio]

adam morrison and jared dudley were very similiar in college defensivley. Dudley lacks quickness and jumping ability just like morrison as evidenced by their low block numbers. you say defense translates well into the NBA and thats exactly right... but Jared Dudley is FAR FAR from a defensive standout. so if both players are bad defensively and Morrison is better offensively... i dont see the correlation to Dudley starting over him. It just doesnt make sense.

the only reason Ammos rebounds and percentages were lower is because he was the Offense on that zags team... he shot more and there fore lowered his percentage and wasnt in place for rebound... its not very often you rebound your own three point shot huh.

Dudley got bunches of rebounds because other players were shooting.. and his points and high percentages come from hustling down low and getting put backs. something adam wasnt asked to do ever.

i mean we can argue till were blue in the face, but Dudley hasnt played a minute in the NBA so until then, the guy we drafted with the number 3 pick gets the burn.

Trust me, Ammo will be the back up SF at the beginning of the season.... Im not saying Dudley wont beat him out later, but as of right now Ammo is the 3. and besides Dudley will likely get some time at the PF spot if we have injuries and wanna go small.

[qchoops]

I'm with Mustachio: Felton, Richardson, Wallace, Emeka, and Primoz. I'm counting on Primoz bouncing back to closer to his performance in his first seasons with the Bobcats. He's young to expect that last season was a fluke, and he still has more solid seasons ahead of him. I'm not calling him an all-star, but he was a solid starter, prior to last season. I think some people may be over-reacting to an injury plagued season.

[Mustachio]

haha that was Tambs lineup i just agreed with it... but ill gladly take the praise!

Primoz will never be a Shaq, but if he gets some fire under his ass... stays healthy, stays rested and does what we know he can... he would be a very valuable asset to the team. I think what he needs is a good facial.

He needs to just raise up and dunk on someone so hard it makes him wanna do it everytime... basically he needs a little Ryan Hollins in him... and Ryan Hollins needs a little Primoz.

[chabber]

I've been away a few days. My lineup is basically the same as Specs.

Felton
J Rich
Wallace
Herrmann
Okafor

If we go big I expect Primo would be the starter and Herrmann comes off the bench. I wouldn't mind trying Twiggy or Davidson out on the floor every so often instead of Primo. I don't think they could last for long stretches though. They're both still very green and need to focus on rebounding better. I thought they're defense and their effort to get position for boards even in summer league was pretty weak.

If May is actually available to play I wouldn't start him. He'd come off the bench for offense and at least if we lose him again to injury it won't take any of the cohesion away from the starters.

As for this Dudley vs. Ammo discussion. 3rd pick means nothing. He sucked it up last year and now has to prove himself as much as anyone else. If Dudley is giving more effort than Adam on both ends of the floor (which isn't very hard to do) and is more efficient on offense (at this point also not hard to do) then guess who's getting playing time.

[walkerl]

Mustachio, we will have to agree to disagree.

[dav7z]

I hope Fabio starts for this reason.
Ok50 needs back up on a regular basis and a rotation needs to be made as quick as one can be made. It only makes sence to have Premo to back him up. And let Hollins and Davidson devolope.
For reasons of keeping Wallace healty he should play the small .Ammo has not added enough mussle to play the four. May i would only think of him coming off the beanch. If he could give us just 20 to 25 mins a game we would be so much better. I would not play him more for fear of him geting hurt25 MAX. Dudley needs to devlope who might become a option as the year goes along.
If Carroll hade the Handle to back up the point it would be great ,does any one think he could back up the point.

Felton [Carroll]
J -Rich Carroll Morrison
Crash, Morrison Carroll Dudley
Fabio, May, Dudley, Harrington
OK50 , Premoz, Hollins, Davidson,

If we done i expect somthing like this. Picking up a point either way......

[Mustachio]

I've been away a few days. My lineup is basically the same as Specs.

Felton
J Rich
Wallace
Herrmann
Okafor

If we go big I expect Primo would be the starter and Herrmann comes off the bench. I wouldn't mind trying Twiggy or Davidson out on the floor every so often instead of Primo. I don't think they could last for long stretches though. They're both still very green and need to focus on rebounding better. I thought they're defense and their effort to get position for boards even in summer league was pretty weak.

If May is actually available to play I wouldn't start him. He'd come off the bench for offense and at least if we lose him again to injury it won't take any of the cohesion away from the starters.

As for this Dudley vs. Ammo discussion. 3rd pick means nothing. He sucked it up last year and now has to prove himself as much as anyone else. If Dudley is giving more effort than Adam on both ends of the floor (which isn't very hard to do) and is more efficient on offense (at this point also not hard to do) then guess who's getting playing time.


well obviously... the better player is gonna get the PT... no one is saying they wont.
Im just saying how bout we wait till we see one minute of NBA PT from dudley before we annoint him.
Hating on Adam is fine... but putting rookies ahead of him that havent played a minute isnt.

I honestly think its a case of expectations... people just had way to high of expectations. For some strange reason people imagined that a 6 foot 8 beanpole would succeed immediately in the NBA. Ammos got the talent and the determination, weve seen it... he just needs to find his spot gets some good PT and work things out. now im gettin worried about you guys expectations of Dudley.... he was expected to be a second round draft choice for a reason. dont get too high on him yet there boys... i dont think i can defend both adam and dudley come next year.

[Mustachio]

i agree dav about Primoz being the primary back up to Oak... that makes a lot of sense really.

But going with the High Expectations theme from my previous post... I think Hermann fits in that category too. everyone is ranking him pretty high after just a few games.

I believe in Morrison, Dudley and definetly Hermann... but they still GOT TONS to prove. in all reality none of those guys would start on any other team in the league.

[dav7z]

i agree dav about Primoz being the primary back up to Oak... that makes a lot of sense really.

But going with the High Expectations theme from my previous post... I think Hermann fits in that category too. everyone is ranking him pretty high after just a few games.

I believe in Morrison, Dudley and definetly Hermann... but they still GOT TONS to prove. in all reality none of those guys would start on any other team in the league.



I COMPLEATLY AGREE .Thats why i keep saying we missing that one peice . Thats a starting 4or5.
As for Herrman , Morrison, Dudley let them compeat
But i would put it more like this Herrmann, May, Dudley compeating for the4 back up and starting mins.
I see Morrison backing up Crash and Carroll backing up Rich.

[chabber]

Going into this year, I don't think expectations are an issue at least not for me. Especially with Morrison. I've personally never really liked his game even in the 5-6 college games I saw him play. I'm not a fan of one dimensional scoring players unless they do something to stand out from the crowd like being extremely clutch.

I don't have high expectations on Dudley either but I liked what I saw of him in college and summer league. He's slimmed down, looks ready to ball and evidently has extended his range. I think he'll be a pretty good rookie this year, nothing more. If anything it says more about what I think of Morrison to put him behind Dudley.

Of any of them I might be a little high on Herrmann but that is because he preformed consistently well for a good month. He looked horrible at the beginning of the year but I think he turned the corner and has adjusted to the NBA and USA. I don't think he'll light it up like he did last year from 3 at +45% but I see him easily being better than Morrison at this point.

[spectre]

I think there will be some pressure from the brass to initially give Ammo PT...we aren't the only ones worried our 3rd pick will turn out a bust. It'll be up to him to put it all out there on BOTH sides of the ball or else I imagine he will lose it to Dudley.

And there's no way Dudley's D can be as bad as Ammo's. I have seen him literally STEP OUT OF THE WAY of a driving player like he's afraid of the contact and just take a swipe at the guy's arm. This didn't happen just once either but multiple times.

I will say I saw more "effort" near the end of the season, but nothing close to laying it all out there. If he doesn't under Coach V (a self proclaimed defensive coach) then Ammo will rot on the bench. Remember we're the team who puts out all effort and never gives up. To fit in with the Bobcats Ammo can do no less.

[Mustachio]

that i agree with... if ammo is as unattached and lazy as he looked last year... then whatever.

[Myrtlebeachmark]

Is this crazy?

Starting "A" Squad
Felton
Richardson
Wallace
Hermann
Okafor

"B" Squad
McGinnis
Carroll
Morrison
May
Primoz

Put the "B" squad in for 5 minute intervals or as long as they're holding their own to rest the A's. Use the rest of the bench, Hollins, Dudley, Davidson to fill in for both squads.

Throwing two discrete teams at an opponent might be unsettling. I realize that the "B" squad is defensively weak but they are shooters. They might be able to do some damage. They possibly could develope a group identity and with it an underdog pride. As the "B" squad they might not feel as much pressure to perform and so be able to go out and just play.

Is this strategy (complete line-up change) allowed in an NBA game?

[spectre]

Myrtlebeach I really don't think that's feasible as a norm. Bernie did that a lot and we seemed to always get waxed. Most NBA teams keep 3 starters on the court at all times and usually backups (unless they're great backups) get burned.

Ya never know tho. Maybe Coach V can make it work with all the shooters we have.

Mustachio I'm going to add some hope for Ammo. I think with the new coaching staff we're going to see improvement in EVERY player. Instead of sycophants we now have guys with actual credentials. I have high hopes for our team overall this year in getting better and no doubt Ammo won't be different.

[Mustachio]

Is this crazy?

Starting "A" Squad
Felton
Richardson
Wallace
Hermann
Okafor

"B" Squad
McGinnis
Carroll
Morrison
May
Primoz

Put the "B" squad in for 5 minute intervals or as long as they're holding their own to rest the A's. Use the rest of the bench, Hollins, Dudley, Davidson to fill in for both squads.

Throwing two discrete teams at an opponent might be unsettling. I realize that the "B" squad is defensively weak but they are shooters. They might be able to do some damage. They possibly could develope a group identity and with it an underdog pride. As the "B" squad they might not feel as much pressure to perform and so be able to go out and just play.

Is this strategy (complete line-up change) allowed in an NBA game?




I dont know about the NBA, but in college at Gardner-Webb.. the coach would completely change out all 5 players at intervals due to our run and shoot style(hence the nickname Running Bulldogs)
It drained opponents, got the crowd going crazy as we would start screaming LINE CHANGE like in hockey... it was fun i promise.

I mean im positive you can sub as many players as you want and i know its possible to do 5 at a time. Whether or not it would be effective in the NBA game... i cannot say. But id sure be willing to try.. if for novelty reasons alone.

[dav7z]

I love that idea but never ever really seen it done in pro ball . Dean Smith use to do it ever year . He called it his blue team . No one ever got tired and it was in your face the whole game. It allways wore the other team down. With 12 min quartors in and out ever 4 mins for the first three might work fine. They would be useed to playing with the same five all the time. It would be less turn overs . Then let the starting five go after them in the 4th . It would all so be great for back to backs no one wore out . Great for injerys to playing tired premotes injerys.With this up and down style we going to play the dept would be a big factor.
But if i did it . It would be the same five ever time . Useing the final five as fill ins in case of injery.
Something like this
1. Felton Point
2. J- rich Carroll
3. Crash Morrinson
4. Herrmann May
5. OK50 Premoz
Fill in players Dudley may be part of the 2nd team rotation. Hollins, Davidson , and finaly Harrington
With a point and a change hear and thair it might work well........... We deep as hell at the wings

[spectre]

You guys realize that Bernie would do it occasionally...usually at the end of the 1st/start of the 2nd quarter. It didn't work.

[dav7z]

With the addition of J-Rich and if May could stay healthy it might work . We would be deep enough then with a decent point added. But its a lot of ifs and mights .lol

[qchoops]

The blue team might work for UNC in college basketball, but it's a lot tougher to pull off in the pros. Mainly, the difference in talent between the 1st five and what would be used as the 2nd five. To get an idea of how the Bobcats starters did, check out these two articles: http://www.queencityhoops.com/LineupsOf0607.php and http://www.queencityhoops.com/LineupsOf0607Part2.php. They are a lineup by lineup breakdown of the team. There's a reason why Crash and Emeka played so many minutes last year: The team really struggles without them on the floor. I would imagine that to be the case for any team missing its top two players, but I would think it is a more significant difference for a team like the Bobcats that is still working to build solid depth for its club.

[bobcat4life]

my lineup would be

felton jeff
j-rich carroll/dudley
wallace (if behind needing points,) ammo (but if not )
dudley
may(he will be healthy) hermann,davidson
okafor hollis, davidson,primo

starting lineup would have scoring inside and out with rich and may while okafor and wallace on the brakes and defense while the backups would have scoring off the bench with dudley and hollis or davidson with the d. :afro:

[dav7z]

Hears my starting line up
1. Jeff
2.Carroll
3.Dudley
4.Davidson
5.Twiggy
Thats who should start.
But ill take this one to.
1 Felton OR 1 Felton or 1 Felton OR 1Felton
2 Rich 2 Carroll 2.Rich 2Rich
3 Wallace 3 Rich 3.Wallace 3Wallace
4 Herrmann 4 Wallace 4.Dudley 4OK50
5 OK50 5 ok50 5.OK50 5Premoz


1 Felton
2 Morrison
3 Rich
4 Wallace
5 OK50
In all fairness i dont know who should start . So lets just go with the first one i said . lol



OH NO i forgot about May and left him out. Hell Shan go have a doughnut while i figure out where to put you.........

[davcbow]

Hears my starting line up
1. Jeff
2.Carroll
3.Dudley
4.Davidson
5.Twiggy
Thats who should start.
But ill take this one to.
1 Felton OR 1 Felton or 1 Felton OR 1Felton
2 Rich 2 Carroll 2.Rich 2Rich
3 Wallace 3 Rich 3.Wallace 3Wallace
4 Herrmann 4 Wallace 4.Dudley 4OK50
5 OK50 5 ok50 5.OK50 5Premoz


1 Felton
2 Morrison
3 Rich
4 Wallace
5 OK50
In all fairness i dont know who should start . So lets just go with the first one i said . lol



OH NO i forgot about May and left him out. Hell Shan go have a doughnut while i figure out where to put you.........



LOL, Im sure you will get it right sooner or later. :g:

[123together]

1. felton
2. richardson
3. wallace
4. may ( if healthy, if not herrmann )
5. okafor

morrison and carroll being the first guys off the bench. they will be our white ben gordon's

[Mustachio]

1. felton
2. richardson
3. wallace
4. may ( if healthy, if not herrmann )
5. okafor

morrison and carroll being the first guys off the bench. they will be our white ben gordon's



yep this is the solid bet to start the season off ... no one really knows how the PF C situation will play out... but we do know that Oakfor will play one roll. and if healthy May will play the other. the only difference i see is if Primoz or even the long shot Twiggy/davidson combo at Center.

[dvdbumpus]

If Adam proves his worth during the regular season I could see this lineup more and more:

1 Felton
2 Morrison
3 Rich
4 Wallace
5 OK50

Richardson's always had more success due to match up problems @ SF, so it may be a good move. On the other hand, Adam better fits the bill as a SF due to his lesser speed. Teams like Washington, I could see us using that lineup against. A team that doesn't have a center, and doesn't have a strong SG, but a strong SF and PF...and can't forget Hibachi.

[EvetsMorrison15]

Felton / McInnis
Richardson / Carroll
Wallace / Morrison / Dudley
May / Herrmann
Okafor / Hollins

Felton, Richardson, and Wallace on a fast break is scary.

but off the bench Herrmann, Morrison, and Carroll shooting is INSANE!!!

[dav7z]

Liked that post Morrison . REP IT UP

But damn you just got to somthing about that ZIGGY rules thing. LOL

[qchoops]

Evets,

I know that the promise of the unknown can be tempting...but Hollins was nothing special in college, so I don't think that expecting him to be a solid backup in the pros (after only 1 partial season) is reasonable. I know that Primoz is generally held in low regard on here, but at least he is a somewhat proven commodity. Have I beaten this horse to death yet?

[dvdbumpus]

Until last year's blue balls from not getting anything out of Primoz, I was a pretty big fan of him. I thought we had a pretty big steal out of the expansion draft, like I thought of Crash. Same could also be said to Brevin, to an extent. We did very well for ourselves in the Expansion draft.

In all honesty, I don't expect much from Hollins, other than to provide some quality backup minutes. Within a few years, maybe he'll develop (hopefully).

[Slam]

We didn't pick up BK in the X-Draft. We signed him as a FA

[davcbow]

August 31, 2004 - The Bobcats sign free-agent guard Brevin Knight.
This is a pretty good site on the Bobcats history.

http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php/Charlotte_Bobcats_Franchise_History#2007

Go Bobcats! :g:

[spectre]

August 31, 2004 - The Bobcats sign free-agent guard Brevin Knight.
This is a pretty good site on the Bobcats history.

http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php/Charlotte_Bobcats_Franchise_History#2007

Go Bobcats! :g:


Good stuff!


January 1, 2005 - Emeka Okafor posts the NBA’s longest double-double streak in 35 years with his 19-game consecutive streak. The streak began on November 21. It is the longest streak for a rookie since 12-time NBA All-Star Elvin Hayes registered 60 straight during the 1968-69 season. The streak ends on January 3 against Cleveland.

Emeka!!!!!!!!!

[dav7z]

Good find REP IT UP

[EvetsMorrison15]

Sorry Brett,

I know Hollins has potential to be.

[davcbow]

I think that both Primoz and Hollins could have decent minutes this season, specially if we are playing better with J-Rich being on the team. Primoz just had a bad season last year, that can happen to anyone ask Shaq. Hollins just needs some playing time to get some experience and learn how its done at the Pro level. :g:

[EvetsMorrison15]

Hollins needs some Work Out time. ( lift some weights )