2008 Draft Players

[ALong13]

Just was looking at some mock draft, and was wondering who you guys thought we should maybe target next year...I wouldn't mind a big man, and I was thinking maybe Roy Hibbert, Center out of Georgetown, in his junior season, he average 12.8 ppg 7 rpg, and 2.4 blocks per game, he seems like a good defender from stats, he's 7'2", but he's 278 pounds, his weight worries me definitely with a running offense. If Hasheem Thabeet C, out of Connecticut would come out he could be another defensive big man that could be good. Needs to improve on scoring as he only scored about 7 ppg his freshman season (last year), but he averaged 3.8 blocks per game and is suppose to be a great defender. 7'3" and 255 pounds, he could be a nice late first, early second round pick....but now I want to here some opinions from you guys...

[davcbow]

Considering that I think we will get to the playoffs this season we would have to trade up to get the pick necessary to obtain either of those players, dont you think? :g:

[Jonathanmartin7]

Jeff Pendergraph shows promise.He's only averaging 12pts and 9 rebs a game but he's improving steadily. Could pick him up in the late first round. Here's what the Sundevils site has to say about him.

Has established himself as one of the best post players in the Pac-10 the past two seasons and continues to improve and impress. Work ethic both on the court and in the classroom is off the charts as he is on pace to earn his economics degree sometime in 2008. Easily had the best freshman "surprise" season in the Pac-10 in 2005-2006 and then increased his weight by 20 pounds from the fall of his freshman season (210) to last year (230) and improved on his numbers in all categories. Despite missing all of fall conditioning and most of November in his freshman year after fall surgery to remove a benign tumor in his left leg, he notched Pac-10 All-Freshman honors and since Feb. 4 of that season (past 37 games) he is averaging 12.7 points and 8.8 boards per game. Has twice grabbed 19 rebounds in a game. Played for one of the most successful high school programs in the nation, as his Etiwanda (Calif.) teams were 62-5 his final two seasons under coach David Kleckner. Fellow Division I signees on his prep team included Darren Collison (UCLA), Marcus Carter (Portland State) and David Carter (UC Davis). Has 13 career double-doubles (second-most among active Pac-10 players to Jon Brockman's 18) and 11 career double-figure rebounding games. Has made 176-of-330 (.533) shots from the field in Pac-10 games.

I like the 2 games that he had 19 rebounds last year. Seems to be a good banger.

[Slam]

DeAndre Jordan, DeVon Hardin, Roy Hibbert and Taj Gibson are all on my radar.

[ziggy]

DeAndre Jordan, DeVon Hardin, Roy Hibbert and Taj Gibson are all on my radar.

I may have been the biggest Hibbert fan on the board prior to the draft last season. However I really hope that we finish with a record too good to be in the race to get him in the 2008 draft.

[dvdbumpus]

DeAndre Jordan, DeVon Hardin, Roy Hibbert and Taj Gibson are all on my radar.

I may have been the biggest Hibbert fan on the board prior to the draft last season. However I really hope that we finish with a record too good to be in the race to get him in the 2008 draft.



I'm a big Hibbert fan, but in March Madness last year they had to bench him much of the time against running teams due to his bulk and his inability to keep up/in the game full strength.

[Slam]

DeAndre Jordan, DeVon Hardin, Roy Hibbert and Taj Gibson are all on my radar.

I may have been the biggest Hibbert fan on the board prior to the draft last season. However I really hope that we finish with a record too good to be in the race to get him in the 2008 draft.







I sort of feel the same way Zig. I'm torn. I fell for Hibbert hard last year and thought he'd be perfect for us - but that was before we landed JRich and Coach V and it's been suggested we'd be a much more up tempo team. Don't know how Hibbert would fit in with that, but I would still LOVE his passing, high post play and size on the roster.

[123together]

i think there will be a slew of freshmen, that haven't hit our radar yet. there will be a few that will be available when we are selecting

[tamburello]

We'll probably get a better record as ziggy said, so we'll also need to look at European imports to find some valuable players, as you call "pearl", although at the moment it's way toooo early to discuss about this.

This year is the last chance for 1986 birth players to join the draft. I don't know if you had any chances to see the European Championships, but nowadays everybody(including many ESPN columnists) is talking about Slovenian guard Goran Dragic. He's a little slim, but owns great fundamental talents. Also in the final match, Russian forward Anton Ponkrashov shone with his unexpected calmness and clutch shooting.

Last year, we have talked about Nicolas Batum (1988) of France, if he enters the draft this year, he might have a legit shot to be a lottery pick. Italian swingman Danilo Gallinari (1988)is also very talented and versatile.

From Turkey, we have a guy called Semih Erden with tremendous potential. I've watched him several times. He is 7-0 with a huge wingspan, runs the floor very well. He has almost all the tools to be a great. But his basketball IQ is so low and not improved much in the last few years. He shoots poorly, dribbles badly and doesn't have any offensive weapons at all. However some teams may select him as a project.

[ohara831]

John Riek is starting to get a lot of love out there. Kid is 18, from the Sudan, playing Prep in Mass. He is a Jr. in school, but turns 19 late 2008 so as International he is OK for the Draft in 2008. From what they are saying, he should be a quality Center. Sounds like they are talking about him like they did Dwight Howard coming out of High School.

[Dead_Real]

DeAndre Jordan would flourish in our uptempo offense and right beside OK50 he's that banger down low that you want on you're squad not to mention a great rebounder.

[CaptainCrunch]

who cares about the 08 draft? 09 is the draft to get excited about. Ricky Rubio all-world guard will be available for the draft. If the bobcats could somehow draft Rubio all of our problems would be over.

[Dead_Real]

who cares about the 08 draft? 09 is the draft to get excited about. Ricky Rubio all-world guard will be available for the draft. If the bobcats could somehow draft Rubio all of our problems would be over.

08 is deep as hell especially in the lotto I'd give my left arm for Eric Gordon or Michael Beasley in a Bobcats uni in 08/09.

[ohara831]

who cares about the 08 draft? 09 is the draft to get excited about. Ricky Rubio all-world guard will be available for the draft. If the bobcats could somehow draft Rubio all of our problems would be over.

08 is deep as hell especially in the lotto I'd give my left arm for Eric Gordon or Michael Beasley in a Bobcats uni in 08/09.
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Gordon and Beasley will both be franchise makers, but I think the biggest difference maker is going to be Rose out of Memphis. They say he is kinda like Jason Kidd and Dwayne Wade combined into one - now that is impressive. DeAndre Jordan would be very helpful on the front line as well. But I want to get more info on the Riek kid. he sounds special, but some scouting groups are unsure of his age and whether he will go in 08 or 09 draft. They need a ruling from NBA. He supposedly provided a Birth Cert. which indicates he will be 19 later in 08 so eligible for 08 Draft, even tho he will only be finishing his HS. He gets that exemption since he is from Sudan and is considered International, even tho playing in Mass up north.

[CaptainCrunch]

who cares about the 08 draft? 09 is the draft to get excited about. Ricky Rubio all-world guard will be available for the draft. If the bobcats could somehow draft Rubio all of our problems would be over.

08 is deep as hell especially in the lotto I'd give my left arm for Eric Gordon or Michael Beasley in a Bobcats uni in 08/09.


yeah I was just joking about the 09 draft. the 08 draft will be so deep. all these college freshman are unbelievable. I too would give an arm or leg for Gordon or Beasley. Wonder how people would react if the Cats drafted Beasley, being that he committed to UNC Charlotte and went to K State instead

[dvdbumpus]

who cares about the 08 draft? 09 is the draft to get excited about. Ricky Rubio all-world guard will be available for the draft. If the bobcats could somehow draft Rubio all of our problems would be over.

08 is deep as hell especially in the lotto I'd give my left arm for Eric Gordon or Michael Beasley in a Bobcats uni in 08/09.


yeah I was just joking about the 09 draft. the 08 draft will be so deep. all these college freshman are unbelievable. I too would give an arm or leg for Gordon or Beasley. Wonder how people would react if the Cats drafted Beasley, being that he committed to UNC Charlotte and went to K State instead


I don't think I would mind if he came here....

[MattD]

derrick rose and kevin durant... now thats a combination

[ohara831]

Keep an eye on nbadraft.net. They update every 3 days or so with a running mock draft. They have the Cats picking 10th and taking OJ Mayo. I know we have Ray and J-Rich as PG and SG, and Mayo is a combo, but the kid has talent out the ying yang. They call him Kobe-light because he has the same attitude and a great game. is he Kobe-good? No way. But he will be very very good, and how close to Kobe he will get is the ? everyone wants answered. Anyway, I know we need a Big, but if someone like OJ drops to us, we gotta take him. You just have to rely on veteran leadership to help keep him grounded and team oriented. My friends in LA who watch him at USC say that he has learned a lot about team play since coming to USC, although he does still bark at team mates a couple times when they do not pass him the ball when he's open and they end uf forcing bad shots. But hey, don't all great players have that ego and desire? Kobe does, MJ did, so that does not bother me so much. If we get him, I just want him to lead us to the Playoffs. Then, all of the Carolinas will love him.

[MattD]

who knew kobe was as good as he was comming out of highschool, I doubt the hornets would have traded him if they did...

[ohara831]

The updated mock on nbadraft.net came out. We have the 6th selection at this time. The 3 Big Dogs are gone, and so is Jordan. They have us taking Jerryd Bayless from AZ. He is a combo PG/SG who is a FR but can light it up. If we did something like that, you know they are playing him with Ray and putting j-Rich on the bench. Honestly, if we picked that far back, they may look at Centers and go with Riek or the kid from Ohio State. But the way we are playing, unless something remarkable happens, we will be picking a few slots higher. If we don't get one of the big 3, then I feel certain that we will go for Jordan out of Texas A&M.

[davcbow]

who knew kobe was as good as he was comming out of highschool, I doubt the hornets would have traded him if they did...


They knew how good he was but Kobe refused to play here is why we traded him to LA.
I remember those days well..... :g:

[dvdbumpus]

who knew kobe was as good as he was comming out of highschool, I doubt the hornets would have traded him if they did...


They knew how good he was but Kobe refused to play here is why we traded him to LA.
I remember those days well..... :g:


And for that bum Vlade Divac too!

[davcbow]

who knew kobe was as good as he was comming out of highschool, I doubt the hornets would have traded him if they did...


They knew how good he was but Kobe refused to play here is why we traded him to LA.
I remember those days well..... :g:


And for that bum Vlade Divac too!


Yep; thats why I laugh every time I hear of Kobe coming here rumors in a trade..... :g:

[ohara831]

who knew kobe was as good as he was comming out of highschool, I doubt the hornets would have traded him if they did...


They knew how good he was but Kobe refused to play here is why we traded him to LA.
I remember those days well..... :g:


And for that bum Vlade Divac too!


Yep; thats why I laugh every time I hear of Kobe coming here rumors in a trade..... :g:
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Yep. Kobe was playing no where but LA. I just feel we could have gotten much more out of the deal other than Vlade. A future 1st rounder or so. That did not work well for us i my opinion. Could have threatened to trade him to someone else and made LA up the ante.

[davcbow]

who knew kobe was as good as he was comming out of highschool, I doubt the hornets would have traded him if they did...


They knew how good he was but Kobe refused to play here is why we traded him to LA.
I remember those days well..... :g:


And for that bum Vlade Divac too!


Yep; thats why I laugh every time I hear of Kobe coming here rumors in a trade..... :g:
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Yep. Kobe was playing no where but LA. I just feel we could have gotten much more out of the deal other than Vlade. A future 1st rounder or so. That did not work well for us i my opinion. Could have threatened to trade him to someone else and made LA up the ante.


Shin flipped out and took the best first offer he got. Im with you I would have held out for more value in trade... :g:

[babyj42]

Well the way to figure out our potential pick is how much we are gonna suck... lets just say like last year we are 8th... off the board would likely be

Beasley
Rose
Mayo
Gordon
Jordan
Batum
Greene

Then we would have choices like
Bayless
Griffin
Hibbert

But as you can see I love DeAndre Jordan as I look at him and see Dwight Howard... Imagine him beside Oak with the big three in the backcourt... that is a future!!!!

But it would be great to add a combo guard like Mayo, Bayless or Gordon to add some great scoring depth and really make for an explosive offensive squad

[Slam]

Jordan is clueless on the offensive end.

He makes EO50 look like Hakeem. We'd have two bigs falling over each other. It would be the oppostie to the Knicks with Z-Bo and Curry but still the same sort of problem - like styled players who don't compliment each other.

Greene might be a nice option. So might DeVon Hardin.

[dvdbumpus]

I think this draft will be best available non-wing player. We need an offensive big man and a distributor. We all know this.

Maybe if need be we can trade down to get more picks? We need depth and could use some extra talent...maybe still pick up who we want.

[Mustachio]

I dont know slam... im sick of the organization not taking chances. quit going for the supposed definite sure things and take a chance on Jordan.

If we could get him... and have this as a lineup.

Ray/second rounder
Jrich/Hammer
Crash/Morrison/Dudley
Okafor/May/Davidson
Jordan/Nazr/Hollins

even Sam Vincent couldnt screw that up

[davcbow]

I dont know slam... im sick of the organization not taking chances. quit going for the supposed definite sure things and take a chance on Jordan.

If we could get him... and have this as a lineup.

Ray/second rounder
Jrich/Hammer
Crash/Morrison/Dudley
Okafor/May/Davidson
Jordan/Nazr/Hollins

even Sam Vincent couldnt screw that up


From what Ive seen from him so far this season he would find a way to screw it up..... :g:

[babyj42]

i guess after watching the game last night this forum should really begin to heat up... i don't see us making much of a push to be outside the top 5

[dvdbumpus]

Dear god, if you have any faith as a bobcats fan, please let us get Michael Beasley :bowdown:

Maybe as a consolation I'll take Derrick Rose....?

[babyj42]

that would be nice...

[Slam]

Bealsey is a meat head and a prick to his team mates.

[ALong13]

Could Beasley play PF? If he tries SF or SG he's going to be behind Wallace or Richardson for quite some time...Also maybe take a look at Roy Hibbert...

I'm thinking a PF/C in the first round...PG in the 2nd...

In the 2nd...right now I'm thinking

PG/SG Kyle Weaver (Washington State)
PG Sean Singletary (Virginia)
PG Rodrigue Beaubois (France)

[Slam]

I think Beasley will be best suited to play the 4 in the NBA. If he plays the 3 guy's like Crash will burn him because he doesn't have the quicks to keep up with or in front of them.

At the moment I like the idea of Jordan, Hibbert, Hardin or Thabeet with our pick (depending on where we pick) and then getting back into the mid 1st and getting Augustin.

[dvdbumpus]

I don't think Hibbert will fit in well if we have a run and gun offense. If we stick to a half court set or a more traditional game plan, he'd be great.

Hell, I'd be happy with the majority of the players we're talking about. Has anyone mentioned anything about Mayo?

[swetooth9]

I think Beasley will be best suited to play the 4 in the NBA. If he plays the 3 guy's like Crash will burn him because he doesn't have the quicks to keep up with or in front of them.

At the moment I like the idea of Jordan, Hibbert, Hardin or Thabeet with our pick (depending on where we pick) and then getting back into the mid 1st and getting Augustin.


how would we get back into the mid 1st? via trade?

[Dead_Real]

DeAndre Jordan is playing right now on ESPN2 if you haven't seen this guy yet check him out now.

[ohara831]

Hey guys, if you are zeroing in on a big, then is Jordan is gone, keep an eye on the high schooler John Riek. He is listed at #9 by ESPN. He will be 19 and eligible since he will qualify as foreign as he was born in the Sudan. He plays HS in Mass. I've done some research on him, and the people in the know seem to see him in the same mold as Dwight Howard. He is advanced with his Defense and Rebounding, and getting better on Offensive end. We will have to deal with Howard for years to come, and Okafor cannot handle him. If we are pushed back to the 9-14 pick, we very well may be going after him.

UPDATE: As of 1/22/08, his stock is dropping. Down to #19 as scouts say he is not staying in shape, not honing his skills with hard work, etc.. We do not need someone who lacks motivation.

[Dead_Real]

Damn I've been sleeping on Tyrese Rice out of BC this kid can flat out score when he's on has 32 first half points against UNC right now he probably wont come out this year though.