Will May ever play again

[dav7z]

We have all heard this same old story for the last two years. I will be fine next year. Its all most as if he teases you with his abilitys then lets you down.
So do you think May will ever play again with the Bobcats or is this just the same old story.
Do we resign him after three years of this.
Your openions.


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[WarioVsMooChicken]

Isn't he already signed for the 08-09 season?

[dav7z]

He signed for the 08-09 season but after this same old song and dance for three years . Do we keep him trade him . He has a favorable contract . We might be able to add him with a pick a get somthing for him. If the seregy works he could turn in to a solid starter. But we keep hearing next year but next year never gets hear.

Basily take another chance on him playing with much better trade value.
Cut our loses and get rid of him.

[Muttley]

I think we should hang on to him until next winter and re-evaluate then. We can see by then if he's even worked to recover fully. Answering the questions: How's he been with rehabbing? How's his on-court dedication look when he's off-court? The guy clearly needs to get in shape and not being able to walk without crutches for the next 8-10 weeks is going to make matters worse. I say we hang on to him for now. If he shows that he's dedicated to getting and staying in-shape, then he will prove very valuable and we can trade or use him. We'll have more options, though. If he's a bum, then just can him or maybe find a way to move him during the season.

As for answering the question in the Subject line... there's no way I can say or even guess. Part of me wants to believe he'll be back and contribute, but the other part of me has seen this situation before (around, say, a month ago...).

[ohara831]

I mentioned this before in a prior thread. I do not think May will be back. Although a favorable salary of just over $2 mil is not bad, the problem is I think that it will just be money spent and a player under salary that we will be kicking ourselves in the butt for a year from now. We will all be saying" if we only had that $2 mil from May and if we only had one less body under contract."....
Why do I feel this way? May has never been in top athletic shape, not even as a Tarheel. When you are that size, and carry that much weight, it takes a toll on certain joints in the body, expecially knees. May will be off his feet for a couple months. Then, he will have to take a couple more months off before serious rehab. When you give someone who does not have a great work ehtic to begin with, and then tell them to lay about for a few months, he will only become further out of shape. Look at those who have successfully returned from this surgery. They were already in good shape to begin with and you expected them to stay dedicated work out enthusiasts and maintain that peak conditioning. Take Amare Staudamire. I can't stand the jerk, but he was in top notch shape, and appears to be coming back well from this surgery. Others are people whom you did not have the concerns for their work ethic and staying in shape.
I just do not see May as having that dedication. He had the talent, but not the dedication. I think, unless he showed something special a year from now, I would let him go at contract expiration or use him as trade bait for someone we may need.

[123together]

yes







he needs time to recover, hopefully get in shape and ball out like we know he can

[Slam]

I think I have more of a chance of playing an 82 game season with the Bobcats than Sean May does.

[spectre]

I'm not May's biggest fan by a long shot (does he have any left?)...but the plus is he's going to have to go thru some SERIOUS rehab with this knee thing. If I'm not mistaken they were saying like 8 hours a day in different machines and such for months.

The boy obviously needs discipline and we've got a bunch of cash invested in his fat butt, so I think they should force him to live with the trainer from now til he can come back. No more clubs, no more alcohol, no more krispy kremes...if it doesn't have anything to do with getting his rear back on the court it's off limits.

If he can't do that we should threaten to sue him for his past compensation. He's shown no willingness to live up to his side of the bargain; no reason why he should become a millionaire off of us.

[Slam]

If he can't do that we should threaten to sue him for his past compensation. He's shown no willingness to live up to his side of the bargain; no reason why he should become a millionaire off of us.


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That is a very interesting concept!! I wonder if it has ever happend?

[Alex]

I could care less about him, he's a fat slob who will never amount to anything in the NBA.

[davcbow]

I bet there is a lawyer out there that would try it to see how far he could push the envelope. Although I bet the CBA would raise kaine because that would threaten its rules and structure. I think there needs to be a dud clause in all contracts, something to do with how players conduct themselves inside and outside of the arena and how they take care of themselves, injuries outside team related things, not playing up to expectations. I cant see a dud making millions just because they were good in college and signed a contract, join a team and stink it up..... :g:

[dav7z]

I'm not May's biggest fan by a long shot (does he have any left?)...but the plus is he's going to have to go thru some SERIOUS rehab with this knee thing. If I'm not mistaken they were saying like 8 hours a day in different machines and such for months.

The boy obviously needs discipline and we've got a bunch of cash invested in his fat butt, so I think they should force him to live with the trainer from now til he can come back. No more clubs, no more alcohol, no more krispy kremes...if it doesn't have anything to do with getting his rear back on the court it's off limits.

If he can't do that we should threaten to sue him for his past compensation. He's shown no willingness to live up to his side of the bargain; no reason why he should become a millionaire off of us.



Very good post Spectre , I have never thought of that . It would be instering it it's ever been somthing like that in a contract. I doubt it has but conditioning is something ever player should be required to do.
If the player refused to work out then the team should be able to fine or release that player with out having to pay his or her salery.
That would make thease guys come into camp in shape.

[spectre]

If he can't do that we should threaten to sue him for his past compensation. He's shown no willingness to live up to his side of the bargain; no reason why he should become a millionaire off of us.


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That is a very interesting concept!! I wonder if it has ever happend?


The Vick-Falcons situation gave me that idea...but as Davcbow said no doubt the player's union has that one covered.

I can't imagine there not being something in the CBA to take care of malcontents (someone signs a contract then fails to show up for practice/the games for instance), but injury/not being in shape is probably recompensated by insurance.

I just want to make him suffer in the pocketbook, because it's his own fault for staying fat.

[dav7z]

Spectre is taking a hard line aproach. I like it but i don't think it could be done. All most ever preseason ranking is saying we a lot worse team because we lost May for the year . It seems to me we never had May to begain with after we drafted him. But everbody is ranking us 25th or worse because of May . I DONT UNDERSTAND.

[spectre]

But everbody is ranking us 25th or worse because of May . I DONT UNDERSTAND.


Me either brother...makes no sense.

Like I've been saying all along, we lost Voskuhl and Knight...we picked up JRich/Duds/Davidson.

How in the world is that a downgrade?

May would have helped us no doubt...but geesh, look at what we did last year without him:

From December 27th give or take we went something like 26-29...of those games May played a grand total of 12 games. We did go 7 and 5 during his stint, but we also won 13 of the 30 games he didn't play in...two wins shy of a .500 record.

(I pulled a lot of those from memory, so they could be off a game or two)

I think most are dissing us because it's just "easy". Most probably haven't seen our team play except when matched against their team (LOL...remember, Felton's SLOW!), so instead of actually researching us they read each other's crap and embellish from there.

That's ok though...I LOVE being an underdog. We're going to prove a lot of "experts" wrong.

[dav7z]

Damn even Bobcatsplanet is split down the middle about May . With the vote 5 to 5 . Do any of you see May as a big help in the fucture.

[davcbow]

Its all up to him, if he does everything the doctors tell him to do and not do the things they tell him not to do, if he loses a little weight and keeps toned up yeah then he may be a help; If not? then he wont.... :g:

[ohara831]

Damn even Bobcatsplanet is split down the middle about May . With the vote 5 to 5 . Do any of you see May as a big help in the fucture.

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The only way I really see May as being of help to us is in the following way. He works hard at rehab, gets in better shape, and we can move him in a trade as either an unknown who may work out for someone, or at the worst an expiring contract. If we hold him, I do not see a contribution on court, only as an expiring contract. I would rather see him in a package for someone we want and know will help us. I know I am being one of the harsher people on May, but when someone lets you down repeatedly in their work, you lose faith in them and cut bait. The harsh realities of business. Yes we drafted him, and I know the argument that if we hold him he may yet pan out for us. I think that is just wishful thinking with our hearts and not looking at the grim reality of facts. Take a good hard long look at each memeber of the team, do an unbiased "pro vs. con" analysis, leave out all the heart felt mushy feelings, and if there are more "pros" than "cons" - keep 'em. If more "cons" than "pros", get rid of 'em.

[ziggy]

I have to vote no on this one. Sean has never shown the dedication in the past to work his way into condition after prior injuries/surgery and recovering from microfracture requires more work, rehab and dedication than anything else out there.

I would love for him to prove me wrong though.

[Keetch]

I think he will return and one day make the all-star team. HOW'S THAT!

darn naysayers...he's a Bobcat! HOORAH! HOORAH!

[ziggy]

I think he will return and one day make the all-star team. HOW'S THAT!

darn naysayers...he's a Bobcat! HOORAH! HOORAH!

Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely rooting for him. But judging from his history it doesn't look good for him.

[dav7z]

Keetch just hasn't seen him eating as many krispy cream doughnuts as me and you have Ziggy.

[Keetch]

I definitely haven't. Dunno why I'm such a fan of Sean's; could be he was on my fantasy team and was a VERY GOOD points per minute guy before the knee...or could be he has an AWESOME sweet jumper...or could be he has a knack for getting underneath for the most critical rebounds....

But after so long, I never counted on him this season, thinking the knee was just bad. I have never given much credence to the weight issue; he has torn cartilage and is facing long and difficult rehab. Not a good time to jive him about donuts. But whatever its cool.

I'm hoping that an eventual return from this surgery will put this looonng ordeal behind him and lead to a renewal of his NBA career. That's all you can do at this point, or dump him if you just don't think he has the discipline to make it. I honestly don't know.

[dav7z]

Nothing bad about May but his krispy cream jokes have got all of us through a lot of bad times. Remenber guys when B.K. got all this started by calling him rerun[ he does look like rerun] Some how the krispy cream doughnuts got started . His team mates even give him a hard time but its all in fun . He didn't seem to mind he seems to give as well as he takes. As far as his fucture depends on how hard he trys to rehab . People can come back from the seregy he has had as it's no where near as bad as Morrisons injery.

[Keetch]

Understood dav7z and no problem with that at all...

[qchoops]

I'm voting yes, just because I've heard that being positive/optimistic is good for your heart. No logical reason (at this point) to think Sean will ever contribute, but I am saying yes because, as a fan, I just really would like to see it happen. So, I am letting intangibles override reality this time (fairly out of character, but that is what being a fan can do).

[ALong13]

I honestly think May s pretty much done, I don't see him ever coming back and being a big star. I say trade him to a team that has maybe too many people so that we can get something for him, and they can release him or something, but too me, I think we need to trade him and get something...

[davcbow]

Id trade krispy kreme for a draft pick and a box of Dunkin Doughnuts.... :biggrin:

[schmidtydogg]

I really like what may has done in the time he's played but i'm really tired of waiting for our Big Mac to go through an entire season and put up 20-10 numbers. And about if he'll ever play again i really would like to see him an a bobcats uniform but if he plays like slop or isn't there 'll have to say we have to think about trading him

[DaFlameking]

i think after missing 3 seasons, Sean May has become lazy and does not want to play real NBA ball. Havent you guys noticed he was the Summer League's MVP for 2 years straight and (i havent been watching summer league this year) but i think he was doing well in it too.

then preseason/regular season. BAM! he's hit with an injury. how come he plays so well in the summer league and so sorry in the regular season to get himself quickly in an injury.

Sean May has go, seriously

[dav7z]

Wouldn't mind trading May and a 2nd round pick for Charlie V. With good coaching he could be very solid. If he cimited to defence and worked more in side he could be good . He could all so be good on a pick and pop. His value is much better than it appears right now. He could be a nice starter for us.
I would do Hearmann or Davidson ,or,Hollins and a second for him. May and a second. Morrison even. Thats how much i think he helps . With Yi starting a trade might be possable.