Charlotte Bobcats vs. Phoenix Suns (Tuesday, November 6th - 7:00pm)

[Alex]

http://espn.go.com/i/teamlogos/nba/lrg/trans/pho.gif (2-1) @ (2-0) http://espn.go.com/i/teamlogos/nba/lrg/trans/cha.gif

Ok so I may be unbelievably confident here but I have an urge confidence going over me at the moment that tells me we're gonna beat the Suns on Tuesday. I actually believe it 100%, just the way I KNEW we were gonna beat the Bucks.

3-0 start :g:??

[davcbow]

If we can play our game for 4 quarters then we will win, but if we have a 4th like we did against the Heat it will be a bad day. The Suns are just a better team than the Heat are at this point. We will have our hands full so going cold will not work.... :g:

[Dunk]

I'll be thrilled if we beat Phoenix. Might be a possibility if Amare can't go or is only half strength.

We need to tighten up on D and finish games.

[Fromage]

yeah, gotta put an antire game together this time. but no doubt, we can do it, especially if we cath 'em napping early. gonna be a fast paced game, for sure.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Really high scoring game...

By any chance is it possible to outrun the Suns? :-\

[dvdbumpus]

Golden State outran them last year, and J-rich should be able to provide good input as they were the team that Phoenix just couldn't win against.

I think we'll win, especially if Amare is out. 121 - 118.

[ALong13]

I think we can beat them but it'll be a tough game, if we can stay together, and maybe sub out a bit more, than I think we'll be fine, But we need to find something down low with Okafor, as Prezec isn't working out, and Hollins isn't doing too hot either...

[Fromage]

I think Hollins did ok in Miami.

[davcbow]

I think Hollins did ok in Miami.


Hollins did some good things at the right time, he will definately get better....
Come on get with the program Primoz. Did any one see him running up the court last night? His legs were in front of him, body was behind and ran like my ole lady when she has PMS.

[dvdbumpus]

I think Hollins did ok in Miami.


Hollins did some good things at the right time, he will definately get better....
Come on get with the program Primoz. Did any one see him running up the court last night? His legs were in front of him, body was behind and ran like my ole lady when she has PMS.


slovenian turkey man, the slovenian turkey...

[dav7z]

We can beat them but our rotations are going to have to be better .
Our Disaventages
1 Our depth
2 Our rotations
3 Less experianced at the run and gun.
Our advanteges
1. They in the middle of a east coast trip[ early season ]
2. Amare out or less than a 100 percent
3 Home court
4 Starting to get confident

On a side note Primoz has sucked bad .With Hollins not ready for heavy mins yet.
If coach is not going to play Fabio . We need to put him on the block.Along with a draft pick to pick up a decent player at that position,
Frye not geting much playing time.
Charlie V is not geting mins either
we could get either and could contend for 1st in the east.





Bobcats 114, Suns 111

[Alex]

This really is the perfect game to give Walter big minute simply because he's gonna get so many open shots.

[davcbow]

Id love to see Herrmann get some minutes, more than just 2 or 3. He can play when he gets it going on. Less Primoz more Herrmann and Hollins.... :g:

[dvdbumpus]

We can beat them but our rotations are going to have to be better .
Our Disaventages
1 Our depth




I don't think it's a lack of depth, I think it's a lack of the depth being utilized. *cough*DA matt walter *cough*

[TheBeagle]

Yes, the game tomorrow will see how Sam utlizes the bench for sure. It won't be possible for our big 4 to play 40 minutes during a track meet. There's little doubt in my mind we'll see DA's first appearance of the year, maybe even Jermareo's.

Also, I think, if we're playing matchups, Walter should get the starting nod over Primoz. I have had no problem starting Primoz the first two games, but he would be an absolute albatross out there tomorrow. I'd really rather start Jeff, but we need him to help refresh Raymond, plus there'll be plenty of time for both of them in the backcourt together, but just not right off the bat. Not sure of the Suns starting lineup, but I think Walter can hang with Hill, if he starts, but I don't think he has a chance against Diaw, and definitely not Marion. So maybe I've just invalidated my earlier proposal, and we should start either Jeff or DA. :g:

[EvetsMorrison15]

i agree with Beagle.

Herrmann over Primoz starting.

Herrmann is better suited to defend against Phoenix's offense. Primoz doesn't have the speed to keep up. Plus he was missing point-blank shots in Miami.

I made Herrmann start on the RealGM game thread. I strongly believe im right. if not then maybe Hollins

[ohara831]

I think we definitely have to have McGinnis guard Nash, so we have to run the 2 PG system alot this game. When we don't, it is OK for Ray to guard him, but he cannot do it the entire game. Nash will run him to death when we are on Defense, and make him too tired to be effective on Offense. When you're tired like that and legs get weak, the jump shots are always off. Let McGinnis concentrate on Defending Nash.
Amare S. is most likely out for the game. That means Oak should do quite well tonight. Remember, the Suns let Thomas go as a FA. He was the one guy on their team who could guard Tim Duncan, not Amare. So without either, Oak should have a strong game inside tonight.
I think our Wings are huge this game. They have the Matrix and Diaw, we have J-Rich and Crash. That will be a great match up and I think we have the edge there, but only slightly.
In the end, Suns have the edge at PG, the Wings are close to balancing out, but we have a slight edge, and I think we have the edge with the Bigs since Amare is out and Thomas split town.
We will a close one. I call 112 to 105.

[Wallace15]

Hollins should definitely start this game. Hollins run track in high school and college so I know he could keep up with the Suns pace on offense. Plus with Amare being out and any big they put out there being focused on Oak, I think Hollins could have a 8-10pts and 7-8rbs type game.
If they don't start him then we should start Hermann because if we start Primoz then we've already lost.

[davcbow]

Hollins should definitely start this game. Hollins run track in high school and college so I know he could keep up with the Suns pace on offense. Plus with Amare being out and any big they put out there being focused on Oak, I think Hollins could have a 8-10pts and 7-8rbs type game.
If they don't start him then we should start Hermann because if we start Primoz then we've already lost.


Right now I dont think Hollins could score 8-10 pts if he played 48 minutes but I do think he should start ahead of Primoz. I have seen miracles happen before.... :g:

[Edrow]

What's the latest word on Amare? Anybody know?

I think we can beat these guys. But I agree, we gotta play better in the 4th. I think a solid four quarters could at the very least challenge Phoenix.

-Edrow

[DaFlameking]

if we play hermann and caroll alot in this game it is a guaranteed win. they play just like the suns so that could be our counter attack against them.

miracles will happen tonight

[ohara831]

What's the latest word on Amare? Anybody know?

I think we can beat these guys. But I agree, we gotta play better in the 4th. I think a solid four quarters could at the very least challenge Phoenix.

-Edrow
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Last reports I heard were that he will likely sit out tonight vs. the Cats, but he is officially a "game time decision". I do not expect him to play, but we have to prepare as tho he will be playing. Amare said that "he" will make the decision as to whether he can go or not. Let's see how his heart is tonight!

[joeeeeeee]

gonna be a good game.. i think you guys are way off on your score predictions.. but we'll see

[ohara831]

gonna be a good game.. i think you guys are way off on your score predictions.. but we'll see
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And your prediction for the score?

[spectre]

Primoz is injured, so we're looking at either Hollins or Touche as starting.

If the dumb kid doesn't play that means they'll be going with Nash, Bell, Hill, Diaw & Marion right? Maybe Skinner instead of Diaw, but you'd think that group along with Barbosa will get the bulk of the minutes.

I think the frontcourt matchups will be interesting, Mek on Maron or Diaw? Hollins on who? Either of those might be a chore. Whatever we do I think it's imperative that we don't have any defensive disadvantages for them to exploit. Felton HAS to stick with Nash and not cheat to just hold him down to star numbers vs. all star numbers.

[dvdbumpus]

Okafor should be used heavily with Amare out. Marion will guard okafor. I see J-rich guarding diaw, crash guarding Hill or Barbosa. I'd like DA out there for one of those matchups.

[joeeeeeee]

And your prediction for the score?


considering the suns havn't been shooting all too well lately, and STAT may or may not play..... i see the score being a 106-93. I wont make predictions to who wins because i feel its pretty rude to come on the other teams boards and talk smack, but i just dont feel either of these teams will break much higher than 100. i could be very wrong tho, guess we will just have to wait an see.

[Dead_Real]

This should be a fast paced game I'm going with J-Rich being the player of the game once again tonight.

The Matrix vs Crash should be an exciting match up to watch.

[dav7z]

Last we heard from Suns fans was we wasn't even close to being in the same class with you guys. So i will say right now , we in the same class and have a chance to win. But this team of what you guys call scrubs are better than you think. One thinng for sure our scrub Wallace WILL hang with your star Marrion. And Ok50 will get 10 boards and 16 pts Amare or not . Not to bad of players for Charlotte, Win or lose it want be a easy game for you guys. Amares words [ At least he don't have to play in Charlotte] He has NO CLASS. So kicking thair asses will make ne very happy.

[chabber]

As much as it pains me to say this because I love to run we should slow the game down. They don't have their best finisher inside and will struggle more in the half court scoring points. Run the clock down, pound the ball inside to Mek/Wallace/J Rich whoever...attack the basket. Then on defense stay on the perimeter guys waiting to shoot 3's and let Nash get his if he has to. You can probably play off Grant a bit because he can't shoot the 3 very well. I'd be really scared if we get into a track meet with these guys. If they get hot there will just be too many wide open 3's.

[CaptainCrunchIsBack]

G-Force is going to go off for 32 in a 112-109 bobcat victory...go cats baby

[dav7z]

Agreed Wallace goes off for 32pts. Marrion can't stop him no one can when hes on.

Crunch+1

[Wallace15]

Crash will be the player of the game. With Amare out he should be able to get points inside easily, even with Marion on him. 8)

[dav7z]

Got to go take a shower and put on my Bobcats gear. Geting ready to kick some Suns asses tonight. Talk to you guys after the game.

[Wallace15]

Have fun, man. The Bobcats will kick some ass tonight 8).

[ALong13]

Center Primoz Brezec might not play tonight, due to a sprained right wrist suffered against Miami. If Brezec can't start, coach Sam Vincent will start either center Ryan Hollins or guard Jeff McInnis. Using McInnis would mean starting the smaller lineup that Vincent has used to close out wins in the first two games. Regardless of whether he starts, McInnis figures to play a lot tonight to match up with the Suns' small, up-tempo style of play.

-Charlotte Observer

I'd rather go small ball against the Suns, they'll be fast, and we can go just as fast, it hurts us down low, but we haven't been strong down low yet, so I wouldn't expect us to do so now. Hopefully if he is indeed out though, Jermareo Davidson can finally get some PT, maybe DA as well...

[Fromage]

hey folks. i'm pumped. off today, so i can watch live, and maybe chat a bit. gonna be a great test for us. time to don the felton shirt.

[EvetsMorrison15]

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff170/SteveMorrison35/amare.jpg

Get some Cats!!!

[Fromage]

nice!

something else we'll neeed today - our guards/wings gotta keep helping on the boards. that's why i think we're 2-0. everybody helping with the rebounding. it mitigates our size problem, and gets us out on the break faster.

it's beer :30 on the west coast, folks.

[Edrow]

Two words.... Jason Richardson.


The monster will be in full force tonight guys. I want all those Suns fans to stare closely into his eyes when he sucks out their scoring runs with a deep three from 3,000 yards out. It's cocky...it's sick....it's J-Rich baby!

Wohoo! Go Bobcats! I've got a Micro test tomorrow morning so I won't be chatting, but I'll be watching.

For those of you who are going to tonight's game: Be loud, be proud, and give it up for those Bobcats!

-Edrow

[ALong13]

Once again if you can't watch the game on TV tonight, due to it being out of your area, come to the computer and watch it here...

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-nba-1.html

[davcbow]

Its on MYTV48 tonight or in Charlottes case MYTV12.... :o

[davcbow]

Someone please tell me why they would start McInnis instead of starting Herrmann ? Someone with more basketball knowlege than I have..... :g:

[ALong13]

Well sadly I don't get to see the games on TV here in Wilson....

On Herrmann not starting, and McInnis instead, doesn't make much sense to me either, only thing I can think of is they want it to match up fast paced, and they are liking the defense of McInnis, and Coach V likes McInnis it seems as much as he's played, Hopefully DA, and Jermareo Davidson can get some PT tonight, and Carroll and Herrmann can get much more...

[davcbow]

Thats too bad man, wish you could get it on TV too, but I do know how you feel when its on the cable channel because I have sattelite and dont get it so I get it any way I can find...... :g:

[DaFlameking]

if theyre gonna start mcinnis, whos gonna back up those 2 pgs when either one of them gets tired. >_>

put it hollins or hermann to start and we got ourselves a game

[davcbow]

if theyre gonna start mcinnis, whos gonna back up those 2 pgs when either one of them gets tired. >_>

put it hollins or hermann to start and we got ourselves a game


Thats what Im talking about, man Im ready for this game, I hope the guys are ready to kick some butt..... :g:

Go Bobcats!!!!!!

[Dead_Real]

Not on TV for me either but a stream will do just fine.

[Defense]

I am really excited about this game, I think we will get a nice look at what type of season this team will have based on this game. I mean you can tell a fluke win from a legit win, and if we can pull off a legit win and play our game on offense and control the paint on defense.

Feels good to be back

GO BOBCATS!!!

[kjk2241]

stream doesnt seem to be working for me...any help guys?

[Dead_Real]

Not working for me either.

[snilloCrecnepS22]

http://www.nba.com/broadband/league_pass.jsp

[snilloCrecnepS22]

Not sure if that link works, but if you go to nba league pass from nba.com, and click on the schedule, you can watch the game there. Free Pass ends today though.

[dvdbumpus]

any other NBA streams we can use?

[ALong13]

Yea the reason i believe the game isn't working is because it's not on tv or nothing anywhere except the league pass, figured it would work as it worked the first two games, but sadly isn't working this game...

[Dead_Real]

sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/25568

The game is being played on this stream just download Sopcast media player.

[kjk2241]

its asking for a channel id??

[Dead_Real]

Not working for me either but it seems to be working fine for everyone posting at the Suns board at RealGM.

[Alex]

Well we can't play any worse than we did in this first half. If Vincent tells 'em one thing in the locker room is that things can only get better from here. Let's see if we'll have one of those awesome 3rd quarters to get back into this game.

[ALong13]

Wow that first half was terrible, hopefully they can come back and at least make this game competitive, seems none of our shots are falling, and we are making terrible passes, on the other hand, Phoenix is totally out running us and also it seems that they can throw up a shot (Diaw) and it will fall in...Some very beautiful blocks though...

Glad to see my boy Davidson finally getting some PT, only four minutes, but he got 4 points, 3 rebounds, and 2 blocks, hopefully he'll see even more in the 2nd half...On the other hand Okafor's shooting looks terrible tonight 0-6?

EDIT: And oh yea, how bout that steal and layup by DA? That was nice...

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Wallace seems to be a bit...off

[ALong13]

yea he does, some stupid fouls and 4 turnovers...we have 11 turnovers this first half, we got 2 from Phoenix...we need to not commit any, and force them to commit quite a bit this half...

[BobCatsFanInTx]

if theyre gonna start mcinnis, whos gonna back up those 2 pgs when either one of them gets tired. >_>

put it hollins or hermann to start and we got ourselves a game
Herrman and Carroll have been on the court briefly but when they were out there they were hardly effective. Vincent still insist on playing the two point guard rotation and they are getting killed. Lack of a quality true center is hurting this team. We have no one who can play the low post consistently and it is hurting this team in getting open looks.

In fairness to the team the Suns are playing lights out playoff caliber ball tonight.

Felton taking useless quick shots and not hitting them while failing to set his teammates up. This team will lose by 40 tonight.

The suns are one of the few teams who can play without a lot of post work. Vincent should study the suns thoroughly. Still, this team is going to struggle against the better teams early until Vincent gets a feel for what works and what doesn't as well as the best line up to start with and the best bench rotation.

If Vincent doesn't feel he can get enough production from the SG's this team will be in for a loooooong season. I also feel we need to make a trade soon to get a quality true center. Okafor is just not a true center in the way a center should be. The lack of post play is hurting this team tonight and nearly cost them their first two games.

It has been said that J-Rich can't create off the dribble and by the way that things are going tonight it seems correct. With nobody getting inside the paint effectively the perimeter players are missing shots without much space to shoot. Rebounds seem to be a problem as well. Over all this team is being outplayed tonight and it seems as though they are feeling overwhelmed.

Credit to a great degree must go to a suns team that is playing great.

[dvdbumpus]

Got the stream to work, but how did you find which stream it was to be on? It looks good on SOPcast.

[Dead_Real]

Damn I heard Ray went down with a knee injury I hope he's alright.

[Alex]

this is the night from hell

[ALong13]

HAHA McInnis is two points away from being our leading scorer for tonight lol...

[ziggy]

They took Ray in for an X-Ray and a "precautionary" MRI

[ALong13]

Well Hopefully he is allright, I would hate to lose him for awhile...and what's up with the knee thing, everytime I saw Ray tonight, he got hit elsewhere, Jaw, Shoulder, back, ribs, how did he hurt his knee?

[Alex]

to top things off, HORRIBLE attendance tonight. Probably the worst in franchise history.

[davcbow]

Dudley had 16 points and 11 RB's a DBL DBL and that is the only real bright spot we had all night. McInnis did ok. Carroll had 11 points. all around a overall bad game. So we got our reality check game.... :(

[ohara831]

I was pleasantly surprised with the good showing by Dudley. 16 pts and 11 brds in 20 minutes. I was happy with Jermareo coming in for 18 minutes with 6 pts and 7 brds and 2 blks.

Now, for the part that made me sick. 0 pts from the Center position between Hollins, Primoz and Okafor. That is 0 pts!! Crash was off with his jumper, and Felton is down with a knee. I am sick to my stomach thinking the MRI can be bad news. If he is out for extended period of time, then the NBA will allow us a 16th player under contract. With Jermareo showing promise at the 4 or 5 spot, I think we would have to go with a PG. McGinnis is a good back up PG, but cannot run the show all season and us expect to be any kind of contender. Uggh, I think I'm going to vomit in my mouth!

[Dead_Real]

Tough lost all we can hope for is good news tommorow about Felton.

Also good to hear Dudley played well when given some PT.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Surprisingly, I half way trust Mccinis starting now. Hopefully Felton won't be that hurt though. :-\

Also, Davidson kind of looks like starter material already O_O. A whole lot better then Brezec anyway.

[ohara831]

[quote=Alex ]
to top things off, HORRIBLE attendance tonight. Probably the worst in franchise history.
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I couldn't tell about the attendence. Was it that bad? When we were 2-0 and playing the Suns? Are you serious?

[ohara831]

In the Chat room during game, I was remarking how I was very impressed with Dudley and his fire and attitude. I like that quality in a player. He's gonna be good. Jermareo has a great jumper from 10-12 ft. He just has to put on some pounds to take on other big men down on the post. Otherwise, he becomes a liability

[ALong13]

Well as much as I love the cats, I have to admit, we got BUTT RAPED tonight by the Suns, it was just total embarrassment, Okafor 0 points? And even though Jermareo Davidson got some time finally he didn't get enough IMO, he did pretty good IMO, 6 points, 7 rebounds, and 2 blocks....not bad for not playing yet this season...

Dudley looked real good, and Carroll finally got some time to shine, McInnis didn't look too bad, if any good out of this game, it allowed the bench to play more and try and show they deserve more minutes...

[ohara831]

And our big 4 did not play too much after the half, so they should be somewhat fresh for Philly tomorrow night. I think we see Dudley and Jermareo with more and more burn in the upcoming weeks. They show desire, heart and fight. Something this team needs now with 2 guys gone for the year, another who is yet to suit up due to injury, and now unsure of Ray's status.

[Jonathanmartin7]

When should we know something new about Ray's status? If he's gone we will be stuck in ping pong land again next year. sigh

[ohara831]

We will know something tomorrow by the MRI report. The MRI is tonight at hospital. If he's gone for year, we will get a 16th person under Contract by NBA. Likely have to go get a PG, not a big.

[Dunk]

Just got back from the game. It sucked as much in person as it did on TV.

Not much good to take away other than we got to see some PT from Davidson, Dudley, and Hollins.

Our guys just didn't do anything well tonight. We weren't aggressive to the basket, weren't hitting any shots, and our D was terrible. Maybe it was laziness or we just had the worst rotation possible against the Suns. Hopefully Felton is okay and we can just forget about this one.

And they officiating was an absolute abortion. Coach should have shown some fire there to at least make a statement.

[ohara831]

Hey Dunk, someone said the attendance was really bad. Was it, with us at 2-0 and playing the Suns?

[CaptainCrunchIsBack]

Just got back from the library I mean bobcats arena cause it was so freaking quite and empty. Me didnt play all that great but thought duddley and davidson looked good when they got a good bit of pt in the second half. hope felton is okay.

[David Lee]

I was at the game tonight and i can say the attendance was horrible. Possibly the worst i've ever seen at a bobcats game. There would be more people at a Hanson concert than were there tonight, well maybe not that but you get the point. I'd say like 7,000 people. ToneX or whatever the hell that guys name is did come into our section to throw t-shirts out, so it wasn't a complete loss. Tim Donaghy called a pretty good game in addition to that.

[dvdbumpus]

2 MRI's indicated no ligament damage, so that's definitely a good thing. If Ray was out for an extended time, I'd expect Mcinnis, DA, and even Dudley running the point.

[CaptainCrunchIsBack]

2 MRI's indicated no ligament damage, so that's definitely a good thing. If Ray was out for an extended time, I'd expect Mcinnis, DA, and even Dudley running the point.




thats good man a felton injury would kill our team

[dav7z]

Felton is hurt the knee looked like it bowed to me. He couldn't put any weight on it as he went to the locor room. He wasent screaming so it might not be to bad. Can only hope . The atendance wans't bad at all about 13 to 14 thousand it looked like. The best parts of the night was the fight in the croud and seeing M.J. and D. Jeeter watching the 2nd half of the game toghter. You could tell MJ was pissed at the starters play. Davidson and Dudley both looked good to.
Slowing our speed down was a big mistake . All the starters timing was off bad. Coach all so acted like it was a sin to play to bigs toghter. Felton and Mcinnis both was killed by Marrion. He was just to big for either player.
Dudley and Davidson was very active and should get more time. Hope this opens the coaches eyes and we start a good rotation. The bench players looked better than the starters.

[TheBeagle]

Felton is hurt the knee looked like it bowed to me. He couldn't put any weight on it as he went to the locor room. He wasent screaming so it might not be to bad. Can only hope . The atendance wans't bad at all about 13 to 14 thousand it looked like. The best parts of the night was the fight in the croud and seeing M.J. and D. Jeeter watching the 2nd half of the game toghter. You could tell MJ was pissed at the starters play. Davidson and Dudley both looked good to.
Slowing our speed down was a big mistake . All the starters timing was off bad. Coach all so acted like it was a sin to play to bigs toghter. Felton and Mcinnis both was killed by Marrion. He was just to big for either player.
Dudley and Davidson was very active and should get more time. Hope this opens the coaches eyes and we start a good rotation. The bench players looked better than the starters.
I agree, the attendance was a bit of a fall-off from game 1, but it was mostly noticible in the upper decks. The lower bowl was about the same, maybe a few more. I know the section 107 platform where I sit was more full than game 1.

When Raymond went down like he'd been shot, I had no clue what was going on. I noticed he took a spill when he was fouled on a drive, but he popped up quick, and went to the line. After making the first, he missed the second and **BAM** he was down and not moving. I wouldn't think it would be too serious, but he was not moving at all, and was putting no pressure on his leg at all. I turned to my cousin and said, "Well, I thought it couldn't get any worse than the 1st half, so much for the opptimism." I looked up where Bernie was sitting and he was a statue, didn't move at all. Five minutes later, he was gone and never returned to his perch.

I saw that skirmish in the stands, but it was on the opposite side of the floor from me (behind the Suns bench), so I had no clue what was going on.

Having met MJ a couple times before, it was still pretty cool to look up there and see him decked out in his squash-yellow sportscoat, and Jeter sipping an alcoholic beverage of choice. As cool as this star-gazing was though, tonight's performance left a bad taste in my mouth on the trip home.

The starter's were, as had been said, just out of it. Mek and JRich should return some of their paycheck, cause it wasn't earned tonight. GW fell in love with his jumper too often, but still hustled while he was out there; same with Felton who was really starting to work over Nash before he went down.

Dudley was a blast though, despite his poor FT shooting. Working his ass off during a 30 point game was awesome!!!! How about when he outworked the Suns for an offensive board and put back, and threw off his head band he was so pumped! It was good to see the remaining fans cheering that hustle on: his role as a fan favorite began tonight!

Despite the outcome of the game, I'm not all that discouraged. A 32 point loss is the same as a 2 point loss, so the point margin is no big deal. We were outcoached and outplayed tonight, so let's put it behind us, and bring it tomorrow night.

Hopefully Raymond won't be out any more than a week, and if so, I think we can persevere. Hopefully DA knocked all the rust off his game tonight, as he was quite rusty tonight, badly missing his jumpers, and just looking out of sync.

[Keetch]

Pheonix is a phenomenal team and effortlessly fast...beating the Cats up court and down. Everything we did seemed forced, while most of the Suns shots were uncontested and swishing through the net. Very little defensive effort from the Bobcats.

I was yelling at Okafor to get back on D but after getting frustrated early on with some missed layups/put backs, he just seemed to stop caring. No fire tonight.

Primo was worthless as always.

I've realized that Hollins simply cannot shoot a basketball thru a basketball net from anywhere, including standing right beside it or under it. He misses dunks, layups....everything.

Hermann was slow-footed as well; losing his man many times. Sam pulled him over at one point to yell in his ear.

It seemed that the team was using fatigue as an excuse tonight; an extension of the 4th quarter of the Heat game. They'll need to get over that in a hurry.

Dudley and Davidson were the highlights, but Davidson still seems pretty raw. Nice energy though and that pretty turn-around jumper works often.

The crowd was disappointing, but not worse than a lot of games last year. Where I sit the wine & cheezers were in force, not sure many of them really watch the game. I enjoy watching them all single file it down to the bar at the end of the tunnel with one-minute left in the first half. Its a real treat. Some of them even return before the 4th quarter.

[dav7z]

Beagle we was in 1o7 row K. to . Did you see Jordon and Jrrder in our sweit 105. All so did you see that Suns guy screaming MVP ever time Nash got the ball . We give him hell.

[joeeeeeee]

First off, I must admit i was very wrong in my prediction and it looks like you guys were correct. I thought this would be a much lower scoring game than it turned out, and for that i give you guys props.....


but then......



I am really excited about this game, I think we will get a nice look at what type of season this team will have based on this game.

now can we finally put to rest the amare shit this summer?

thanks.

[spectre]

First off, I must admit i was very wrong in my prediction and it looks like you guys were correct. I thought this would be a much lower scoring game than it turned out, and for that i give you guys props.....


but then......



I am really excited about this game, I think we will get a nice look at what type of season this team will have based on this game.

now can we finally put to rest the amare shit this summer?

thanks.




Us losing this game makes Amare less of an idiot how?

[Dunk]

The upper levels were empty and people kept filing out all night as it got worse. Fortunately my seats are over by Rock The Rooftop or whatever its called so I had access to plenty of beer. :) To me, Charlotte seems like a city of fair-weather fans anways...(I'm not a native) so it's not too suprising. When they start winning, all the bankers will buy tickets and won't show up to games.

Some kid kept me entertained making Grant Hill jokes all night.

"Grant, you're old!"
"Grant, did they have the alley-oop in the 30's!"
"Grant, did you take your arthritis medication before the game?"

I also made a Tim Donaghy joke. I think I wondered aload what the spread was on the game. The refs looked like they were going for the over.

[Mustachio]

Dunk, thats where i sit. it is definetly where all the jokers sit.

everytime Grant Hill fell down we were screaming "oops there goes my ankle... im out for the season!"

and im embarrassed to say that i left the game early for the first time ever last night. with about 4 minutes left in the fourth. I just couldnt handle it anymore. drunk and pissed not a good combo for me.

[qchoops]

Steve Nash's mullet looked pretty sweet in HD. That's about the worst I can say about the Suns last night - they are an offensive machine...and they swarmed the post well, and stepped in front of drives very effectively too. For a team that has its defense bashed, they were impressive on that end of the floor as well last night.
More thoughts - http://www.queencityhoops.com/GameRecap110607.php

[Dead_Real]

http://broadband.nba.com/cc/playa.php?content=video&url=http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom/recaps/recap08_044_phxcha.asx

Just saw the actual video since ESPN didn't show how Felts got the injury I like Nash alright but seems like a Bowen estique defensive play to me.

[CaptainCrunchIsBack]

Felton is hurt the knee looked like it bowed to me. He couldn't put any weight on it as he went to the locor room. He wasent screaming so it might not be to bad. Can only hope . The atendance wans't bad at all about 13 to 14 thousand it looked like. The best parts of the night was the fight in the croud and seeing M.J. and D. Jeeter watching the 2nd half of the game toghter. You could tell MJ was pissed at the starters play. Davidson and Dudley both looked good to.
Slowing our speed down was a big mistake . All the starters timing was off bad. Coach all so acted like it was a sin to play to bigs toghter. Felton and Mcinnis both was killed by Marrion. He was just to big for either player.
Dudley and Davidson was very active and should get more time. Hope this opens the coaches eyes and we start a good rotation. The bench players looked better than the starters.


agreed the fight in the lower deck was defenitly the highlight of the game

[BobCatsFanInTx]

to top things off, HORRIBLE attendance tonight. Probably the worst in franchise history.
I have said plenty about this on Inside Hoops basketball forum. A fan got mad at me for saying that something would be seriously wrong if the team was at or above 500 ball by December and the attendance stayed low. Would lead me to believe the Hornets ruined pro ball for the state of NC and the fans won't support it.

Though it has pissed some people off, I'll continue to stress that this team will never make the playoffs until they get a consistent back to the basket scorer. They don't seem to be able to get inside on drives and they lack offensive boards because of it.

I really don't care who responds to me but I am a realist and this team had better get Okafor, Hollins or somebody to post up or it will be a loooong season.

Naturally this team would struggle to start the season no matter what though because they are getting a feel for a new coach and the coach is getting a feel for the players. On talent alone this team could still win 30+ once again this year. May might have been the guy who could play with his back to the basket but unfortunately he is out. So imo, Vincent should get either himself or another coach to work with the bigs on this skill.

Mark my words, if this part of the bobcats game does not improve we are in big big trouble. We are not loaded like the suns to play like them.

As I write this the Bobcats are down by 17 at the half to the 76er's and it does not look good. I may be wrong about the bigs and playing the low post but I guess only time will tell. If I am I will humbly apologize.

[davcbow]

Youre right, Ive seen it the last 2 games.... :g:

[Alex]

Wow Atlanta beat Phoenix tonight and they sold out the place. All of a sudden I'm a lot more depressed.

[TheBeagle]

Beagle we was in 1o7 row K. to . Did you see Jordon and Jrrder in our sweit 105. All so did you see that Suns guy screaming MVP ever time Nash got the ball . We give him hell.
Yeah, I heard the guy, but I didn't know where he was. There was a guy sitting right behind the Suns bench with a Nash jersey, but I know it couldn'tve been him. I go to the games with my handicapped cousin, so they put us at that platform with the fold-out chairs. I'm the tall skinny dude with goatee, so if you see somebody like that with a guy in a wheelchair, stop me and say hey!