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bobcatsden
11-05-2007, 04:05 PM
For those interested in stats, below are the Bobcats' Win Score Per Minute numbers after two games.

Win Score is the metric created by David Berri in "The Wages of Wins" to evaluate player contributions. The formula: (Points+Rebounds+Steals+1/2Assists+1/2Blocks - FieldGoalAttempts-Turnovers-1/2FreeThrowAttempts-1/2PersonalFouls)/Minutes.

Richardson: 0.194
Felton: 0.208
Wallace: 0.198
Okafor: 0.355
McInnis: 0.063
Hollins: 0.267
Carroll: 0.019
Dudley: 0.208
Brezec: -0.119
Hermann: -).100

Average WS/48 for each position is different - here are the league averages:

- Point Guard: 0.132
- Shooting Guard: 0.128
- Small Forward: 0.152
- Power Forward: 0.215
- Center: 0.225

What does this tell us? A ton, but for starters:

Felton is playing tremendously well. An incredibly promising development.
Okafor continues to be our best player, and the player most responsible for our success.
Wallace and Richardson are significantly above average.
Primoz Brezec has had a horrible, embarrassing start to the season and has been significantly outplayed by Ryan Hollins.

I know people on this board place varying degrees of faith in statistics, and I recognize that a sample size of two is too small, but I find this stuff interesting nonetheless.

Slam
11-05-2007, 04:36 PM
This formula is skewed.

It would reward players like Diop, B.Wallace and Reggie Evens way too much and belittle players such as Haslem, Gooden, Nash Boozer.

Heck, what does this rating say about the Hammer?

Besdies, it's only been two games and is WAY too early to start crunching numbers just yet.

Wait until the end of Nov/Dec before you start reading the tea leafs

dvdbumpus
11-05-2007, 06:11 PM
I think it may be a worthwhile stat, and I usually like stats, but when Mcinnis is more valued than Matt, and Hollins is 2nd only to Okafor, I find it too early to tell.

Alex
11-05-2007, 06:32 PM
Um I could of come to the same conclusions just by looking at the boxscores...

dnbman
11-05-2007, 07:02 PM
I pretty much hate most of the "game value" or "win value" formulas that out there.

They usually just showcase typical numbers and don't look at all of the intangible things a player does.

But, for sake of argument, let's imagine a guy who's a terrific gunner, but doesn't do much else.

We'll say he does this:

Scores 30 points on 50% shooting (30 attempts), with 6 boards, 2 assists, 2 pfs and 3 TOs.

His rating would be zero even though he obviously had a significant effect on the game.